I agree. I had to retrain to throw lefty about ten years ago. The push muscles for lefty forehands is a muscle structure and muscle memory I never really utilized, that was all for righty. I still use my right for certain control/upshot/throw-ins. But. I'm definitely always on the look for Clemons' forehand instructions.
Lefties will always need better forehands. We have an unfair disadvantage in that most lefty backhand holes require us to throw 400 feet max, while 500+ holes always seem to hook to the left. Hopefully we will see this change in the future.
I've only been playing... A year this July, but I've had tons of people that have been playing for years tell me that I have a great forehand, and this is all great advice. For people who started with baseball, crohop then throw like youre Randy Johnson trying to throw a fastball. I easily out forehand people that have been playing for years over me by doing this. Hope this helps someone new like me take down that person that showed them the game lol
This lefty with zero forehand found this tutorial this weekend. After just two rounds I know this is a game changer for me. I still have a lot of fine tuning to do, but I now HAVE a forehand just like that. thank you so much for sharing this video.
Hey man. Came across your video on r/discgolf. I loved this video. I kept it open in my browser tabs for like a week until I was able to watch it because I didn't want to not watch it. I'm a new MA3/MA2 player and eating this up and seriously taking notes from it. I'll keep watching more from your channel and you in general this this. Also, as a tip to you: I seriously noted down a full 8.5"x11" of notes from this video. Slow your roll and throttle your content. You came in hot, but in a good way with this video. It's like you dumped a bunch of receipt of the table. One receipt at a time is sufficient and you can earn more off it that way. But I'm not complaining. Keep throwing us those goods! Seriously man. Thanks for the video. I really appreciate it.
Hey Chris, just wanted to say I’ll be cheering for you. You’re my left-handed hero as a fellow lefty, I love to see someone out there fighting against the righties.
Due to an elbow injury I never played frisbee golf but this year I realized forehand doesn't hurt my elbow so i've learned forearm through trial and error. To me it seems the internet lacks a lot of forehand specific content so keep the content coming please!
That elbow your little brother tip! I did a mock sidearm in the living room with and without that tip and I felt more power instantly using your advice. Thank you!
Perfect! Very helpful! One minor complaint I have is the age-old myth of palm facing up. No one does that, because it'll make your wrist very rigid and its range of motion too tight. As you can see with Chris's slow motions, neither does he. The wrist rolls over in a natural way, as it should.
I'm a forehand thrower. Threw backhand until a few years ago. I can do so much more with a disc forehand than I ever could backhand. I have catalogued 5 different forehand grips. The Pointer, The King's X, The Boy Scout, The Hippie and The Claw. I primarily use the Kings X when driving. That's your index finger against the rim with your middle finger behind like you're crossing your fingers. That grip puts a lot of torque on the disc, increasing the stability while also making it easier to not roll your wrist over. I use the Boy Scout for lower power shots. That's what I call the standard two finger grip.
Some tips that helped me- Aim low and small (i.e, a leaf on a bush that’s 100 feet away and is 5 feet high). Don’t dip your elbow & follow through level. Keep things tight and strong- compact like Chris says. Also, when I go through my routine, I kinda point to where I want to throw with the disc suuuper nose down (the top of the disc is almost looking at the target). This does well to tell my body to keep that nose down
This is a question I need answers too. The only thing I’ve been able to get to work is act like I’m throwing shot with very low clearance, like 6 feet. Sometimes I can make it fly low and straight, other times I just throw it right in the ground.
One of the best forehands I had last was at Lake Selmac on hole 11. I flexed a black I-blend Pharoah, almost aced it. I had to retrain to throw lefty when I was 18. I started in backhands, my lhfh is slowly growing. But. I'm getting there.
Awesome tutorial, its great to see LH players doing these, definetly helps me out. Plus I love me some lucid plastics, go go DD now to find a field to go practice....
old fella here, slow arm, lefty. trying to develop a forearm as backhand hurts my shoulders. Any advice as to whether to throw understable or more stable discs as i have a terrible habit of rolling my hand, no matter what I do lol?! throwing Rivers and Craves atm.
I'm a lefty, but I've been throwing balls and frisbees with my right all my life. Trying to get used to lefty FH this season and love to get tips from a lefty on it
The slow motion shots highlighting key features worked well. Let's see a bit more variety like that. Maybe some of the differences control shot vs power throw or anhyzer vs flat vs hyzer?
Very well done, Chris! Killer to see the stand still forehand video on here! I remember seeing that one and the one you throw off of the elevated tee pad down ankle high on a laser!
For me having the middle finger more level with the flightplate really helped getting better releases, especially flatter shots. Dont feel like I am loosing any power either since now I get the correct angle on hte release. I was alot more prone to roll the wrist to early when I stacked the fingers more against the rim. I feel that as long as you can get a good and stable grip what matters most is getting a good dependable release.
When you throw midranges forehand do you throw them nose up or nose down? I throw my putters nose up for more glide, but never seem to quite throw my mids (harp, emac truth, lucid x verdict) quite right when I try to throw them nose down.
Also for people just beginning to learn forehand, learn to throw less stable discs on hyzer before reaching for a Felon or something more overstable. It’ll teach you how to control the angles so much better than relying on a stable disc forced over.
I hear a lot about “wrist snap” in other tutorials. Is this something that you just do naturally? My natural instinct is to muscle a forehand for max distance and that’s not really doing much for me. Are you somewhere in between or is the wrist action where that torque comes from?
Pick one and do it. I would throw both ways with the same hand, so RHBH. I played with a guy who threw LHFH and RHBH, it really hurt his game. He had no way to reverse the disc direction.
What sort of disc and distance considerations do you make when you're choosing a forehand versus when you'd throw backhand? I.e. If you throw a Getaway for overstable backhand shots but you prefer a Felon for overstable forehand shots?
I also use the power grip. My problem is that the more I throw, the worse my callouses get on the base of my index finger. This causes pain and grip issues. My question is does this happen to you, if so, what’s a good remedy? If this is an abnormal problem, what am I doing wrong?
Would love to see more comments about the wrist action and how much that plays a role in the power. I'll definitely be working on more hip strength in the meantime.
I have always tried to figure out where do you grip with your thumb? Do you squeeze against your index finger? Or your middle finger? Closer to the tips of the fingers or at the second knuckle? I am yet to get a clear answer from someone.
Personally I look for a spot just before you get to the inside rim/ridge on top of the disc. Pinching on a slight angle down and towards the tip of your middle finger. In my mind that creates a smaller tension point, and my last point of release becomes easier to manage. I hope any of this might help and have a great day
@@Two_Buck well... yes, sort of. I aim for the second fleshy bit on the middle finger, but my main focus is to "dig" my thumb in to the top of the disc until I find the inside rim through the flightplate. And that should lead into that your fingers and your thumb kind of points in the same direction in the grip. The word "dig" here is used very loosely
T D this is great tips. Thank you for following up🙏 And one thing to think about it is not to grip it into your hand to hard (you do want an comfortable grip so the disc stays in place) but not a death grip so it becomes awkward to get the disc out of the hand in the throw. Key focus is the pinch point at the tip of the whip, so the disc "rolls" out of your palm and then hits the middle finger and then slingshots outwards. I kind of think of it as skipping a rock
I'm still pretty new but used to play ultimate, the better part of a decade ago, and forehand is just naturally more comfortable for me. My grip is a little bit different though, and I'm not sure if it's causing me issues. I do a stacked grip, however instead of my middle finger being on the seam between the rim and the flight plate, its on the edge of the rim. My index finger is still on the flight plate though. I have made changes to my grip that have helped but for some reason, that small change in middle finger location really affects my throw. Do you see any advantage for me to work through it and have both fingers in contact with the flight plate?
If you're having forehand grip problems and have tried the various grips shown here maybe you could try Oakley's grip? It's 3 fingers where he has the ring finger on the bottom/outside of the rim and the middle finger and index finger on the flight plate. I know you said you like to have the middle finger directly on the rim but maybe Oakley's grip will click for you. Also, have you tried putting your middle finger on the rim and then stacking the index finger directly on top of the middle finger? I know some people do that as well. Good luck!
Throw it like you're fielding a ground ball and getting the out at first. Mechanics are very similar. Just grip and nose angle after that. Man this game is easy lol
@@pbodys16 All the best forehand throwers use two fingers. It just takes a little practice but it is totally worth it once you get it. In fact is it almost mandatory to use a two finger grip to have a great sidearm other than some finesse approach shots.
So many say it because it's true. It's a rotational movement not a linear movement. Tie your shoelaces together and try throwing a baseball, football, or disc. It won't go very far. But step into it and rotate and it goes way farther. Or try throwing from your knees. These should show you how important feet,legs hips,core, are to powering a thrown object
From a fellow lefty it's great to see some instruction from a left handed player. Thank you!
For real, need more of this.
It's sad I make sure if I see him I watch just for the form and tech! Bonus he is a good player
My thoughts exactly!
I agree. I had to retrain to throw lefty about ten years ago. The push muscles for lefty forehands is a muscle structure and muscle memory I never really utilized, that was all for righty. I still use my right for certain control/upshot/throw-ins. But. I'm definitely always on the look for Clemons' forehand instructions.
Lefties will always need better forehands. We have an unfair disadvantage in that most lefty backhand holes require us to throw 400 feet max, while 500+ holes always seem to hook to the left. Hopefully we will see this change in the future.
9:18 - "what you're doing beFOREHAND". Well done, Chris, nice pun.
I've only been playing... A year this July, but I've had tons of people that have been playing for years tell me that I have a great forehand, and this is all great advice.
For people who started with baseball, crohop then throw like youre Randy Johnson trying to throw a fastball.
I easily out forehand people that have been playing for years over me by doing this.
Hope this helps someone new like me take down that person that showed them the game lol
Sounds good. I was a pitcher with a solid arm and I just suck at this! Need more field time for sure.
Sweet transitions! Shoutout to the videographers and editors.
Love the "back leg" info. I'm going to work on that.
This lefty with zero forehand found this tutorial this weekend. After just two rounds I know this is a game changer for me. I still have a lot of fine tuning to do, but I now HAVE a forehand just like that. thank you so much for sharing this video.
As a fellow former baseball player/pitcher, I love this POV and all the connections between the two. Thanks!!
Yes! I've been trying to learn forehand with my left for a while now. It's nice to see another lefty show how it's done.
Coming from a baseball background, this language translates so well. Thank you!
Hey man. Came across your video on r/discgolf. I loved this video. I kept it open in my browser tabs for like a week until I was able to watch it because I didn't want to not watch it. I'm a new MA3/MA2 player and eating this up and seriously taking notes from it. I'll keep watching more from your channel and you in general this this. Also, as a tip to you: I seriously noted down a full 8.5"x11" of notes from this video. Slow your roll and throttle your content. You came in hot, but in a good way with this video. It's like you dumped a bunch of receipt of the table. One receipt at a time is sufficient and you can earn more off it that way. But I'm not complaining. Keep throwing us those goods! Seriously man. Thanks for the video. I really appreciate it.
I have had trouble with my forehand for a couple years now. The x step and the follow through information took me from a 0 to a manageable forehand!
Hey Chris, just wanted to say I’ll be cheering for you. You’re my left-handed hero as a fellow lefty, I love to see someone out there fighting against the righties.
Awesome video...taught very well...southpaw nation...thanks you...
Not even a lefty but I love your forehand. So clean. Thanks for the video.
Due to an elbow injury I never played frisbee golf but this year I realized forehand doesn't hurt my elbow so i've learned forearm through trial and error. To me it seems the internet lacks a lot of forehand specific content so keep the content coming please!
That elbow your little brother tip! I did a mock sidearm in the living room with and without that tip and I felt more power instantly using your advice. Thank you!
Perfect! Very helpful! One minor complaint I have is the age-old myth of palm facing up. No one does that, because it'll make your wrist very rigid and its range of motion too tight. As you can see with Chris's slow motions, neither does he. The wrist rolls over in a natural way, as it should.
I'm a forehand thrower. Threw backhand until a few years ago. I can do so much more with a disc forehand than I ever could backhand. I have catalogued 5 different forehand grips. The Pointer, The King's X, The Boy Scout, The Hippie and The Claw. I primarily use the Kings X when driving. That's your index finger against the rim with your middle finger behind like you're crossing your fingers. That grip puts a lot of torque on the disc, increasing the stability while also making it easier to not roll your wrist over. I use the Boy Scout for lower power shots. That's what I call the standard two finger grip.
Great tutorial. Any tips on keeping the nose down in the forehand throw?
Try to throw it into the ground and work your way up from there, I would love to see his thoughts tho I doubt my way is any good lol
Some tips that helped me- Aim low and small (i.e, a leaf on a bush that’s 100 feet away and is 5 feet high).
Don’t dip your elbow & follow through level. Keep things tight and strong- compact like Chris says.
Also, when I go through my routine, I kinda point to where I want to throw with the disc suuuper nose down (the top of the disc is almost looking at the target). This does well to tell my body to keep that nose down
This is a question I need answers too. The only thing I’ve been able to get to work is act like I’m throwing shot with very low clearance, like 6 feet. Sometimes I can make it fly low and straight, other times I just throw it right in the ground.
@@MacDaddyOP that’s actually really good advice.
Love being in Kansas City. So many good players in this area with Emporia only a stones throw away!
Like how the lefty describes the righty point of view so well. You can tell he had good coaches growing up
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
Yay! Thank you!
Solid tutorial. Awesome.
Love the Left handed content please make more
BRO, SO SO SOLID!!! You guys have me back in the game!!!
One of the best forehands I had last was at Lake Selmac on hole 11. I flexed a black I-blend Pharoah, almost aced it. I had to retrain to throw lefty when I was 18. I started in backhands, my lhfh is slowly growing. But. I'm getting there.
So happy to find a lefty forehand tutorial -- great explanation. Thanks!
Finally!!! A Lefty forehand tutorial... TY CC!! You da Man!!
Thanks Chris and DD. You the man! Love the relatable baseball references
Heck yeah. Lefties hyzer right! Er, except for forehands going left like most holes on most courses. Thanks a bunch.
Lotta good knowledge in this video. I think that shoulder tip to prevent rolling is gonna help me!
This is great stuff. Nice to have a left handed perspective to watch.
Love... LOVE Chris' forehand. Great video!
Dude has maybe the best forehand in the world and he is point to other people as examples of great forehands. I appreciate the humility. Big fan!!
Awesome tutorial, its great to see LH players doing these, definetly helps me out.
Plus I love me some lucid plastics, go go DD
now to find a field to go practice....
Thanks Clemonade! Keep the videos coming! Finally decided after all these years to throw the forehand. I'm a lefty and started following you and Zach!
Solid advice
Fantastic forehand tips from the awesome Chris Clemons. Incredible player and great communicator as well. Thanks for posting!
old fella here, slow arm, lefty. trying to develop a forearm as backhand hurts my shoulders. Any advice as to whether to throw understable or more stable discs as i have a terrible habit of rolling my hand, no matter what I do lol?! throwing Rivers and Craves atm.
Great video, newbie here- love the step by step!
Great tutorial! 🔥 I love the more than one way to skin a cat mentality and way of teaching. Emphasis on fundamentals. 💪 Easy to watch. Thanks Chris🤙
I'm a lefty, but I've been throwing balls and frisbees with my right all my life. Trying to get used to lefty FH this season and love to get tips from a lefty on it
Thanks for the video! This was helpful. I’m also a lefty baseball player trying to learn forehands.
The slow motion shots highlighting key features worked well. Let's see a bit more variety like that. Maybe some of the differences control shot vs power throw or anhyzer vs flat vs hyzer?
thanks chris and DD great video
Very well done, Chris! Killer to see the stand still forehand video on here! I remember seeing that one and the one you throw off of the elevated tee pad down ankle high on a laser!
I like the tip about leading with your opposite elbow. I’ll try that. Great to see a tutorial from a fellow lefty!
sick, thank you bro!
great job Chris!
For me having the middle finger more level with the flightplate really helped getting better releases, especially flatter shots. Dont feel like I am loosing any power either since now I get the correct angle on hte release. I was alot more prone to roll the wrist to early when I stacked the fingers more against the rim. I feel that as long as you can get a good and stable grip what matters most is getting a good dependable release.
I was hoping for a 3 second video of Chris saying "git gud," but this is spectacular as well!
Lmao that's what he tells me🤣
Cool video and some excellent help👌
When you throw midranges forehand do you throw them nose up or nose down? I throw my putters nose up for more glide, but never seem to quite throw my mids (harp, emac truth, lucid x verdict) quite right when I try to throw them nose down.
#harpisaputter
Great video chris thanks!
Yes!!! Thanks!
Also for people just beginning to learn forehand, learn to throw less stable discs on hyzer before reaching for a Felon or something more overstable. It’ll teach you how to control the angles so much better than relying on a stable disc forced over.
Good tip. 👍
sweet video
I hear a lot about “wrist snap” in other tutorials. Is this something that you just do naturally? My natural instinct is to muscle a forehand for max distance and that’s not really doing much for me. Are you somewhere in between or is the wrist action where that torque comes from?
You'd make a great teacher
What would you do? Relearn the backhand lefty or try to learn a right hand forehand? I throw a baseball lefty and but I already learned RBH
Pick one and do it. I would throw both ways with the same hand, so RHBH. I played with a guy who threw LHFH and RHBH, it really hurt his game. He had no way to reverse the disc direction.
What sort of disc and distance considerations do you make when you're choosing a forehand versus when you'd throw backhand? I.e. If you throw a Getaway for overstable backhand shots but you prefer a Felon for overstable forehand shots?
Good info🙌🏻
Any suggestions for a good drill to start building muscle memory of good form?
Love to learn from a fellow lefty. Echoing Gabe Roger's question, what are your thoughts on forehand nose angle?
Very good tutorial. Lefty rules.
I also use the power grip. My problem is that the more I throw, the worse my callouses get on the base of my index finger. This causes pain and grip issues. My question is does this happen to you, if so, what’s a good remedy? If this is an abnormal problem, what am I doing wrong?
Hey Chris one of the best tutorials I’ve seen 🙏🏼 Good luck this season
Would love to see more comments about the wrist action and how much that plays a role in the power. I'll definitely be working on more hip strength in the meantime.
Thank you Chris from a fellow lefthander. One question - how do you increase the distance of your forehands? Thanks!
Awesome!
What are your thoughts on throwing this only index finger and thumb? I’ve tried using the middle as well but i end up throwing way nose up.
Happy Lefty here watching
Any tips for those of us that experience upper and lower arm pain from throwing forehand? Not sure what I'm doing wrong that causes it!
I found that when I'm throwing more forehand, my elbow hurts the next day.
Is this mean that my form is bad or should I take more time on warmups?
I think we are all super interested in Kyle Websters foot stomp and how that really molded your forehand into what it is today.
I have always tried to figure out where do you grip with your thumb? Do you squeeze against your index finger? Or your middle finger? Closer to the tips of the fingers or at the second knuckle? I am yet to get a clear answer from someone.
Personally I look for a spot just before you get to the inside rim/ridge on top of the disc. Pinching on a slight angle down and towards the tip of your middle finger. In my mind that creates a smaller tension point, and my last point of release becomes easier to manage.
I hope any of this might help and have a great day
@@andreasstam1 Thanks a ton for the reply. So you might say that you squeeze against your middle finger?
@@Two_Buck well... yes, sort of.
I aim for the second fleshy bit on the middle finger, but my main focus is to "dig" my thumb in to the top of the disc until I find the inside rim through the flightplate. And that should lead into that your fingers and your thumb kind of points in the same direction in the grip.
The word "dig" here is used very loosely
@@andreasstam1 Excellent. Thanks very much.
T D this is great tips. Thank you for following up🙏
And one thing to think about it is not to grip it into your hand to hard (you do want an comfortable grip so the disc stays in place) but not a death grip so it becomes awkward to get the disc out of the hand in the throw. Key focus is the pinch point at the tip of the whip, so the disc "rolls" out of your palm and then hits the middle finger and then slingshots outwards.
I kind of think of it as skipping a rock
Us lefties have untapped potential, thanks for helping in bringing it out 😎
I love the fact it's a lefty tutorial being one myself.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback!
I'm still pretty new but used to play ultimate, the better part of a decade ago, and forehand is just naturally more comfortable for me. My grip is a little bit different though, and I'm not sure if it's causing me issues. I do a stacked grip, however instead of my middle finger being on the seam between the rim and the flight plate, its on the edge of the rim. My index finger is still on the flight plate though. I have made changes to my grip that have helped but for some reason, that small change in middle finger location really affects my throw. Do you see any advantage for me to work through it and have both fingers in contact with the flight plate?
Great video by the way!
If you're having forehand grip problems and have tried the various grips shown here maybe you could try Oakley's grip? It's 3 fingers where he has the ring finger on the bottom/outside of the rim and the middle finger and index finger on the flight plate. I know you said you like to have the middle finger directly on the rim but maybe Oakley's grip will click for you. Also, have you tried putting your middle finger on the rim and then stacking the index finger directly on top of the middle finger? I know some people do that as well. Good luck!
Throw it like you're fielding a ground ball and getting the out at first. Mechanics are very similar. Just grip and nose angle after that. Man this game is easy lol
Now, can you show me it with your right hand??? Lol. Good job on the video!
Anybody do a one finger grip?
Thats me. Tried two but doesn’t feel comfortable and is usually way nose up.
@@pbodys16 All the best forehand throwers use two fingers. It just takes a little practice but it is totally worth it once you get it. In fact is it almost mandatory to use a two finger grip to have a great sidearm other than some finesse approach shots.
@@jist6953 I'll keep trying. I will push back a little as I have a "pretty" great side arm with one finger. Guess better things to come.
@4:10 You said doo doo
Ok who is the clown who down voted this? Excellent instruction. Thanks Chris
Is this on Tic tok too!
Hey Chris do you know Corey wilts? He is my uncle I feel like I've met you before a long time ago... Idk
Forehand ready. Now for the backhand..
I never knew how much Chris Clemons looks like Chris Dickerson with a wig on till now
Oh shit lizard king plays golf... sick
Good video for leftys. The other 80% of the world not so much.
Nastiest routine flick I’ve seen
I do do things too lol
Did my man Scott Stokely just get a shootout?
I will never understand why so many people say that the power comes from the legs or core.
So many say it because it's true. It's a rotational movement not a linear movement. Tie your shoelaces together and try throwing a baseball, football, or disc. It won't go very far. But step into it and rotate and it goes way farther. Or try throwing from your knees. These should show you how important feet,legs hips,core, are to powering a thrown object
Nice four hand thumbnail.
Not enough close up grip explanation. Says pinch it, but doesn't show how hard or where. No discussion on how rigid or loose the fingers are either.
never anything about how it comes out of the grip
Haha he said 'doodoo'
Sinistral people unite!