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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2021
  • Back in 2011 I was robbed for the first time as a Watch Dealer. Today, I reveal what REALLY happened, and why I was arrested instead of the Rolex thieves. This time, I tell it all, the good, the bad and the ugly. This is a Watch Dealers TRUE STORY...
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  • @thomaspaine5601
    @thomaspaine5601 3 месяца назад +198

    I was a police officer for 11 years over 20 years ago. If the circumstances are as you describe them, and I have no reason to doubt you, then I cannot understand how you committed an offence at all. The UK, and indeed the world has gone mad. I used to be proud to tell people that I used to be a Police Office, but now it's a source of embarrassment.

    • @martinnoyes8507
      @martinnoyes8507 2 месяца назад

      Sounds like the Police wanted to believe that you had held up your own shop as an excuse for arresting you and one of their box ticking exercises.Totaly corrupt police.Great respect for you how you described it all.

    • @TG-oo9se
      @TG-oo9se Месяц назад +7

      Policy overseer for the yids

    • @johnhall4851
      @johnhall4851 Месяц назад +26

      Same here. Retired form the job 20 years ago after 30 years service. It was a completely different job then. Now I'm ashamed to say I was an officer. I have contempt for the current officers. Legalised thugs ......

    • @markfalshaw-gv9im
      @markfalshaw-gv9im Месяц назад

      In my eyes your what this country has lost and mate all these wanna Bs are rather loons or full of BS it took some bollocks to do what you did and the coppers of yesterday who were good cops have gone ,most of them are hooray henry's from uni who have never thrown a punch or took one ,tossers good luck fella

    • @kimlee4010
      @kimlee4010 17 дней назад +4

      So sad! Sorry you are made to feel that way about your career. What is happening in the world is a total disgrace

  • @bonjovi1612
    @bonjovi1612 3 месяца назад +184

    Hi Paul. I’m a former Met officer long retired and I am truly for how you were treated. I, like many of my colleagues saw the future of policing and were disgusted by it and we all left as soon as we could. This is not the country it was even 50 years ago and the public at large is in great danger now from the do goodie fanatics that have taken charge.

    • @Art-is-craft
      @Art-is-craft 3 месяца назад +26

      It’s the public that is the main driving force. They are apathetic to the state of society. They flock to football and reality tv in their millions but could not tell you how local councils operate yet know every detail of football transfers or what shoes a celeb is wearing. If a celebrity footballer was to dye their hair pink you would see lots if imitation on the streets.

    • @paarker
      @paarker 3 месяца назад +15

      @@Art-is-craft
      That is true. I think you have stumbled on the real goal of government education, the media and people who really control the government want.
      Bread and circuses. Be apathetic. Watch this mindless TV. Your government is in charge, go back to sleep.
      Most of the public is so well trained and programmed by the conditioning they have had. It’s an amazing sight to see when you glimpse behind the curtain.

    • @derealovesurvival7549
      @derealovesurvival7549 3 месяца назад

      We all need to stand firm all together and say no more .
      Pen to paper too write campaign protest this is spiritual war
      Rome brought all the madness with it ? Need to Protest again ...
      Evil prevails when the good men do not speak !!!!

    • @memecoinmafia2732
      @memecoinmafia2732 3 месяца назад +9

      socialism

    • @geoffclifford3546
      @geoffclifford3546 2 месяца назад +7

      Thin blue line rankers ! 👮😈🐷

  • @macgregormick65
    @macgregormick65 3 месяца назад +185

    Australia 2022 : you can not defend yourself against an armed attack you have to wait for the police. This is what a Magistrate told me after she put me on a 5 year AVO because I used a piece of timber ( 3”x2” x3’pine ) that was in the gutter( after my attacker opened up my forearm with a knife) to defend myself. Our judicial system is a joke

    • @infidel202
      @infidel202 3 месяца назад +23

      Hope the bastard still feels your presence

    • @grahamhorwood7582
      @grahamhorwood7582 3 месяца назад +17

      respect to you

    • @Stormer-Europa
      @Stormer-Europa 3 месяца назад

      No it's not a joke. They, yes they, are specifically attacking White people. Tribe & Train as Thomas Sewell is Aus would say.

    • @Angus1966
      @Angus1966 3 месяца назад

      Australian police are the criminals

    • @silverbullet2008bb
      @silverbullet2008bb 3 месяца назад +23

      Our next door neighbor is a very creepy bloke who constantly lurks in the dark spying on my mum when she takes our dog out onto the garden at night. One night I'd had enough so I told him to stop and called the police. The police did absolutely nothing about his behaviour - despite there being CCTV yet they arrested me for telling him to stop it!
      I didn't threaten him, swear, verbally insult him or even shout. The police said that because I had, in a private conversation with my mum at my own back garden door, called him a pervert to my mum and because he'd over heard it then this was a "section 5 public order offence" - on my own property!!!!

  • @powelw
    @powelw Год назад +199

    Unbelievable Paul. The British Police are an absolute disgrace. Every day I find it more and more difficult to remain proud of my country. When will it all end?

    • @frankclough380
      @frankclough380 3 месяца назад +8

      When will it all end? What, you mean the abuse and corruptions - never, or the country -Very shortly.

    • @michaelwakeford2336
      @michaelwakeford2336 3 месяца назад

      Yes. You are quite correct. The UK Police are utterly corrupt when they’re not actually work dodging. They expect us to assist them when they will persecute us by forging evidence if they can possibly get away with it. They are completely untrustworthy and bone idle, too.

    • @memyself7413
      @memyself7413 3 месяца назад +12

      When will it all end?
      Simple.
      I will never end, it will worsen.
      Unless, of course, the voters' wake up and .........................!
      "R E F O R M U K."

    • @life_happens_reviews
      @life_happens_reviews 3 месяца назад

      The British freedom party ​@@memyself7413

    • @AlDEN1999
      @AlDEN1999 3 месяца назад

      ​@@memyself7413 Reform want "net zero immigration" look up the vids of people asking them about it... I'll still vote for them because they are the best of the bad bunch but net zero is 500k immigrants a year.

  • @aliengrey6052
    @aliengrey6052 3 месяца назад +65

    Paul I’m sorry this country has treated you so badly.

  • @markrhodes5474
    @markrhodes5474 3 месяца назад +86

    The best bit of advice my dad gave me was don’t talk to the police it’s absolutely disgusting how the police treated you Paul

  • @danwilkes8964
    @danwilkes8964 2 года назад +78

    My friend is currently in trouble with the police. He was in his car someone got out of theior car and attacked him, my friend stood his ground and pushed the guy over. He got arrested for assault and the officers added extra charges relating to racism - the detectives - yes detectives, who took the case were the same ethnicity as the guy who attacked my friend.

  • @lihanou
    @lihanou Год назад +45

    I cannot believe this happened in the UK. My hope for humanity just plummeted.

  • @florian4033
    @florian4033 2 года назад +119

    French here, I know why you call them the filth now... what a crazy story, You did good. No wonder those crimes increase if this is ho they go about it. I feel for you and your daughter. Thank you for sharing as it must be difficult... but much needed to hear.

    • @user-jm2hv7wn2t
      @user-jm2hv7wn2t 3 месяца назад +15

      You cannot make it up the Police were a waste of time turning up an hour later then arresting you the victim. Thank God you and your daughter were ok Paul you are a hero and deserve a medal not be locked up❤❤❤

    • @johneaton25
      @johneaton25 3 месяца назад +15

      FILTH is just a polite word to use!

  • @waynegoldpig2220
    @waynegoldpig2220 3 месяца назад +44

    This story is a a perfect distillation of my argument that a state that will not allow its citizens to arm themselves to defend their persons, property, and family, has no reasonable expectation of those citizens taking up arms on behalf of that state.

    • @johnr6143
      @johnr6143 2 месяца назад +7

      Perfect Observatory Perspective, I totally agree!

    • @flier9708
      @flier9708 2 месяца назад +6

      I'd never encourage my son or anyone else to defend this country given the state it's got into. Look at the policing of the protesters, the bias in favour of the islamists is sickening. I saw some videos around the Cenotaph, they were climbing all over it and burning our flag. All a copper said was please come down sir!!!! Meanwhile British nationalists and Jews who were not causing trouble and only there to try to protect the Cenotaph, were viciously attacked with police welding batons. Days later a lone guy was again attacked and arrested violently by four or five police with another half dozen standing by "just in case he resisted too much!!!" His crime, to just be holding a banner saying Hamas is a terrorist organization, which it is recognized as being. The protesters meanwhile we're not disturbed while they were chanting hate slogans, had illegal face covering and intimidating anybody that didn't agree with their warped cause.
      I now have absolutely no confidence in the police.

  • @filiploots514
    @filiploots514 2 года назад +149

    Hi Paul, I'm a jeweller in Guildford, Surrey not far from where your shop was located. I symphatize very much with your case.
    Some years ago I had to deal with an aggressive woman at my front door and I was just trying to keep her outside as she was violently trying to gain access to my shop.
    All I ever did was keeping her at bay with a flat hand until she eventiually gave up and I was able to close my door.
    She then reported me to the police for assault and unbelievebly I was charged and had to appear in court. The case was dropped in the nend because she had to give evidence and couldn't be bothered to turn up.
    I was very disappointed in the police as in your case they like to do the opposite what one would expect as long as they don't have to do any actual work. The victim is always the easy target.
    Thank you for sharing your videos and best wishes for the future.

  • @karlstamper9243
    @karlstamper9243 Год назад +129

    You sound like a honest man.... And spoke with humbled comments, - a business man with a family .... Respect sir

  • @carlagroves4810
    @carlagroves4810 3 месяца назад +38

    Thank goodness for strong men like you!! I’m sorry that our country has gone down the toilet 😢

  • @spectech73
    @spectech73 2 года назад +90

    My father was a jeweler. He worked in the diamond district in NYC for 35 years. Your first story is all too familiar to me. Hits home. Glad you and your daughter are ok.

    • @mikeh2613
      @mikeh2613 3 месяца назад +3

      I know this is easy to say but better to be judged by twelve than to be carried in by six.

  • @spanglestein66
    @spanglestein66 3 месяца назад +18

    A friend of mine ….had a son that was punched and later died …..due to initial mistakes made by …the then attempted to cover up by the police …..the son was kept in a morgue for more that 5 years …,denying the parents the chance to lay to rest their son ….this is an upstanding family and their son was completely innocent ….just a victim….but because the parents did their own investigation and uncovered the lies made by the police ….they weren’t allowed to lay their son to rest ….,

  • @AM-hk3uw
    @AM-hk3uw 2 года назад +228

    As a retired Police Officer, my initial thoughts when listening to your video - was the Police must be compromised and have some relationship with the offenders. Your situation should be seen as simply a case of Self Defence ( and that's the end of the story). The offenders should be pursued for ever. A reasonable person would have probably done what you did.
    Keep up the great work.

    • @bradfoley8874
      @bradfoley8874 2 года назад +36

      That was my first thought too. The Police were on the take.

    • @AniHajderaj
      @AniHajderaj 2 года назад +30

      It's also weird that they said "endangering the public" when the incident occurred in a private shop.

    • @sheldonsplace4511
      @sheldonsplace4511 2 года назад +17

      Yo read my comment. They had to be in on it.

    • @martinlanigan803
      @martinlanigan803 3 месяца назад +9

      Same thing happening in southern ireland in countryside apart from robbery they would beat u to death seen bad stuff on internet about robberies in ireland

    • @jerryoshea3116
      @jerryoshea3116 3 месяца назад +10

      I own 2 Mossbergs & as far as I'm concerned,if someone comes at me with a Weapon,then it's 'survival of the fittest'
      There's an time for discussion on morality& there's another kind of time!
      And I'm not passing judgment on this ' Dude' but I was raised differently& I've had weapons pulled on me& u need luck & ability,but a Cat only has 9 life's! ( in some cases)

  • @Alexander-xq1gr
    @Alexander-xq1gr Год назад +30

    “He deserves it” - from the police that is unbelievable; appalling.

  • @thomasevans8784
    @thomasevans8784 3 месяца назад +37

    Respect to you for defending ur shop n family

  • @icychap
    @icychap Год назад +67

    Garbage behavior by that law enforcement agency. Sorry you went through that, Paul. God bless.

  • @robburrows2737
    @robburrows2737 3 месяца назад +27

    The immediate impression I had was the same as the retired police officer and others below, that the police were compromised.

  • @ryanjofre
    @ryanjofre 3 месяца назад +17

    I had panic attacks for the first time in my life Paul when I found out that an unspeakable crime was committed against one of the most precious and beloved members of my family!
    I couldn’t sleep and I was riddled with anxiety & inconsolable anger!
    God bless you Paul🙏
    Fuk the Haters. You make my English American Gene pool proud mate. 😁
    Carry On👍

  • @JesusPerez-iw3ey
    @JesusPerez-iw3ey 2 года назад +31

    In life you are either a warrior or victim. I think you are a warrior sir, worthy of respect and admiration. I would hope i have the same strength in that situation.

  • @chewdafat4121
    @chewdafat4121 Год назад +44

    When I was In hospital in Spain the nurse robbed my rolex.

  • @bazphoon1
    @bazphoon1 3 месяца назад +22

    By any means necessary Paul 🙏🏻 you did what you had to do

  • @Greggieboy76
    @Greggieboy76 2 года назад +83

    An almost unbelievable story!! Fair play for even being able to dredge that all back up and talk about it!!

  • @indivisible885
    @indivisible885 3 месяца назад +47

    I fully understand what you thought, when giving your statement to the police. I'm currently writing my story of it. Thinking that being honest and telling the truth, is what we should do. It IS what we should do, but the ramifications of being honest, never crosses the mind of someone, especially if they have been traumatized. It actually took me forty years to figure out how the truth might set your soul free, but won't help your ass, in some situations. Your story really is an amazing example of injustice.

  • @stephengolds9679
    @stephengolds9679 3 месяца назад +16

    Amazing story. The restraint you displayed was commendable, I don’t think I would have been so generous. Despicable treatment from the Police.

  • @mobiusklein9140
    @mobiusklein9140 Год назад +59

    Sad, disturbing and harrowing story Paul. I am so angry. I can't imagine having the courage it took to make this video. Nothing but best wishes for you, your daughter and the rest of your family.

  • @user-zr5qd8tn2h
    @user-zr5qd8tn2h 3 месяца назад +11

    Years ago I watched a tv documentary talking to American convicts . They said when it came to robbing someone , if it was a female and had a child with them , and the woman drew a gun ,they knew the person wasn't going to hesitate in using it , to defend her child. This is seen in nature ,your going to protect your children from harm .You did what any good parent would do ,and I admire you for that, especially as the criminals had demonstrated that taking your life was no worry to them ! You showed great strength of character a lesser person possibly would have shot them .Until your in that position none of us know how we would react . Sorry you had to go through such a hell .

  • @brettlashbrook8527
    @brettlashbrook8527 3 месяца назад +9

    Paul I can’t believe the attitude towards you and I’m really sorry for the terrible treatment you’d had thank god the CPS had seen. I wish you all the best Brett .

  • @michaelc7302
    @michaelc7302 2 года назад +41

    Wow. Just wow. Unbelievable. Glad you survived the entire ordeal and honestly came out a better person for it.

  • @andrewhall563
    @andrewhall563 2 года назад +19

    Paul, Having watched your channel to help me in my first purchase, this video has had me in tears....... Like yourself I was victim to a violent robbery (not watch related) but had to make a decision to protect my 3 year old son in his own house. To then be failed by police with an investigation lasting less than 12hours before deciding they didn't have the time to follow it through (despite evidence being given to them). Those split seconds you describe took me straight back to my situation and it broke my heart to think another Father had to make that same choice to protect their own. Never ever be ashamed for that and respect to you and your family for calling out those that failed you in the aftermath.

  • @bmo125
    @bmo125 Год назад +14

    You're a better man than me. I can't say what I would have done without youtube deleting my comment. Glad you and your daughter survived the ordeal.

  • @frankthetank5013
    @frankthetank5013 2 года назад +107

    Wow.. I’m In Texas the cops will congratulate you for defending yourself!

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 Год назад +11

      In Texas Paul would have dropped them right there

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 3 месяца назад +8

      The police want an easy nick, I’ve had first hand experience

    • @Lbm414.Oleg.Kuznetsov.
      @Lbm414.Oleg.Kuznetsov. 3 месяца назад +15

      The police are woke in the uk and would rather charge the victim than offend the criminal.

    • @alanharmon9970
      @alanharmon9970 3 месяца назад +8

      But this is England.self defence is not approved

    • @joaquimioakim229
      @joaquimioakim229 3 месяца назад +5

      @@alanharmon9970 Yep, if you defend yourself the power that be are always looking for an easy nick.
      Can’t defend yourself and cops turn up late or not at all, no wonder criminals are so brazen

  • @rickylafleur7378
    @rickylafleur7378 2 года назад +18

    You should be proud of yourself Paul ,
    You stood up to them and spared them!
    Done the right thing

  • @goamber2162
    @goamber2162 2 года назад +48

    I am appalled. Traumatised and then betrayed for doing what instinctively is right. I would not apologise for defending something as precious as my child. Good on you mate.

  • @yodadf
    @yodadf 2 года назад +284

    Paul: As a retired big city cop in the US, I am shamed and outraged at the behavior of your local officers you experienced. Glad you and your child were not harmed by those punks who robbed you. I remain a faithful fan of your channel!

    • @sflspotter6638
      @sflspotter6638 2 года назад +20

      Look what country it happened in. I mean it’s getting the same way here in the US to be honest. Soon the only ones with firearms will be the criminals. It’s the way the liberals want it.

    • @sflspotter6638
      @sflspotter6638 2 года назад +14

      @DieselPower uh huh 🤔 you must be a liberal yourself. Your too ignorant to know what my point really was. Wouldn’t expect anything less from your type.

    • @Jon-mv2ck
      @Jon-mv2ck 2 года назад +17

      @@sflspotter6638 So true. Its thanks to liberal attitudes in UK that people can't defend themselves and criminals have more rights than victims these days. Pray the US doesn't go the same way.

    • @Jon-mv2ck
      @Jon-mv2ck 2 года назад +14

      @DieselPower Its pricks like you that empower criminals and allow them to get away with stuff like they did to Paul.

    • @sflspotter6638
      @sflspotter6638 2 года назад +9

      @@Jon-mv2ck don’t be baited into debating with a ignorant little boy like diesel, he’s not worth your time that’s why I blocked him. Unfortunately the balls been rolling on a gun grab for many years now. But do I truly believe that they will ever take our guns? Not without a fight they won’t.

  • @michaelgallon9431
    @michaelgallon9431 2 года назад +17

    Being a watch enthusiast and an RFD this story has so much meaning for me, and whilst it's shocking to hear I'm not at all surprised. The honest license holding gun enthusiast or sportsman is the main target for police force areas and their box ticking. For example a police spokesperson headline reads as follows, we have taken ......thousand guns off the street in 2021. Implying they have confiscated or captured x amount from the criminal element but no, it's by making it increasingly difficult or impossible for license holders to retain their guns and they have to give up their certificates or certain firearms because of pressure from the police. Your spot on Paul, as long as they are reaching targets and spinning good PR they dont care who suffers, they will take easy option every time. Hell they might get hurt if they target the criminal or worse still, have to do some work. I have just subscribed and look forward to more from you.

  • @kerrywilliams9995
    @kerrywilliams9995 3 месяца назад +11

    Hi Paul it better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6

  • @styro_za
    @styro_za 2 года назад +32

    Sounds like corruption to me, the detectives were likely receiving compensation for burying the case. That makes the most sense to me, as robbing jewelry stores is clearly a lucrative undertaking with plenty of monies to go around. Really sorry to hear your story though, and I hope that your family and you are able to fully heal over time. Your story-telling & video editing skills are on-point, looking forward to the next "robbery #2" upload.

  • @antonycoe1290
    @antonycoe1290 3 месяца назад +7

    Well done for sharing that.
    Incredibly frightening. You did what I would have done if my daughter was at risk.
    The way we are ,(not) protected or able to defend ourselves in this country is a JOKE.

  • @markhollywood606
    @markhollywood606 2 года назад +85

    This is why there is such distrust in the judicial system and those that are supposed to uphold it and be there to fight for the victims of crime.
    You did what 90% of the population would do or want to do given the extreme situation you and your family were put in. Thank you Paul for reliving those dark times to show the other side of watch dealing.

    • @eylonemuskson4177
      @eylonemuskson4177 2 года назад

      Some guy followed me home and threatened to kill me and my wife, yet the Police came after me for swearing instead of going after him.
      The Police in this country are a pathetic joke. They just want to fill quotas, they've got no interest in dealing with crime.

  • @pinky-ud1rt
    @pinky-ud1rt 3 месяца назад +8

    Awww what an awfull thing you went through. The police are disgusting. You was protecting yourself amd your daughter..bless you your a hero in my eyes. X

  • @jeffreybialowas4637
    @jeffreybialowas4637 2 года назад +16

    Absolutely you did the right thing Paul, protecting life,liberty, and property. You have more courage, heart ( not taken a life), and Witt then many. Cops like your local police give bad names for true law enforcement members who risk there lives protecting the public. The old saying “I rather be judged by 12 then carried by 6”is my motto, valuing my life and others around me comes first. Today especially criminals in the U.S. are getting out of jail 80% on bail reform the next day, with serious crimes which is totally unacceptable. Ty for sharing your story, and hope one day this painful memory wears less on you and your family, stay well Jeff.

  • @dawidczerniak5177
    @dawidczerniak5177 Месяц назад +3

    It’s fucking ridiculous you did what every man with a pair would. You’re a hero mate don’t let anyone make you feel otherwise!

  • @Jason-md2fn
    @Jason-md2fn 3 месяца назад +5

    My God ,a wish there were more people in the community like you big man,,

  • @user-yz7vc1ux6p
    @user-yz7vc1ux6p 3 месяца назад +8

    Yes if they can’t arrest or apprehend the bad guys then they do the next best thing for them I think this is exactly what a lot of people fear if attacked and they fight back and hurt the assailants they will be charged with some sort of crime we need to have our rights to protect ourselves made much clearer as it would appear that the common person has no rights whatsoever in this country.

  • @poccipo
    @poccipo 2 года назад +28

    Unbelieable Paul! I was also lurned at the police station once for a statement due to try and protect my flatmate from a drunk and violent neighbour, little did I know I was locked up for 6 hours without having done absolutely nothing other than try and help my friend being attacked - shocking behaviour from the police!

  • @7979dennis
    @7979dennis 2 года назад +185

    Don’t be ashamed of defending yourself along with your daughter, you done the right thing and it paid off ❤️sorry to hear how unsupportive the police were.

  • @jonsonnenschein1253
    @jonsonnenschein1253 2 года назад +27

    Paul, I am so elated to hear you were able to protect your daughter and yourself from harm. I'm both thankful and glad you have relief in knowing that. That alone should make you sleep easier.
    In my case, I was not present when my daughter was harmed. I have to live with the fact in knowing, I could not be there to protect her, and that's a tough one.
    What I wonder is, how many of those police that protected the bad guys who robbed you, got one of your stolen watches out of the deal?

  • @nickgardener5802
    @nickgardener5802 Год назад +5

    Thanks for that Paul. Glued to the screen.
    I bet during that six months waiting for the CPS decision you actually thought-I should have shot one and taken your chances with joe Public jury.

  • @Grizza603
    @Grizza603 2 года назад +8

    I remember when you first posted about this robbery a couple of years ago, I was disgusted then, as I am now. As a small watch dealer, and a former arms dealer, I know the restraint you must of had to stop yourself from pointing the gun at the robbers. When your family and yourself are being threatened you will do anything to protect yourselves.
    I think the Police behaved appallingly and this should of been exposed in the national press and media. I do think there should be a law that if someone breaks into your house or business and threatens you or your family they lose all their rights, and you can use any force needed to protect yourself.

  • @paulsymonds820
    @paulsymonds820 2 года назад +38

    A very powerful and upsetting account of that robbery Paul. Very brave of you to share this story of a truly horrific scene!

  • @colinmitchell8135
    @colinmitchell8135 10 месяцев назад +16

    Absolutely shocking, keep up the good work Paul 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

  • @therogers4432
    @therogers4432 3 месяца назад +3

    I just watched this for the first time and will watch it again when I've watched the other videos on this topic from Paul.
    As I type this I'm shaking with a combination of sadness, rage and frustration at the treatment that Paul received from both the robbers (because these scum were not "just" thieves, but prepared to steal with threats of not only violence, but death too... And not only to Paul, but to his daughter too if they'd known she was present, and what father could possibly buckle and submit knowing that?) *and* the Police themselves.
    I have family members currently serving in 2 UK Police forces and my Father was a Police Cadet back in the early '60s, and one of those family members is "deeply motivated by politics in order to further their career" (ie a self-serving, arse-licking, and totally spineless waste of oxygen...) while the other (who is fast approaching retirement) is very old-school and full of common-sense, but is terrified to ever say or do anything that may put their pension at risk so bites their tongue and plays the PC/LGBTQ/DEI game because they have *far too much to lose.*
    My Father left the Police Cadets to join the Army because the blatant corruption of his senior officers sickened him to his core.
    I worked with a guy 5 years ago who *had* been a high-level Police officer after joining-up at 19, who had (by his account anyway...) "always been firmly on the side of law and order, but probably spent too much time watching The Sweeney as a young man to fit-in with *modern* Policing", who, just 18 months before retirement, had had a naive young female graduate placed with him so that he could "mentor her in the ways of the job".
    Within 2 weeks of taking her on he had suddenly, and totally out-of-the-blue after nearly 40 years of service, been suspended "As A Result Of Multiple Allegations Of Serious Misconduct" against him that had been made by his young Protegée and others, with the full support of whatever union Police officers are obliged to join, before being sacked and losing the entirity of his generous Police Pension, leaving him virtually broke.
    He was, understandably, an extremely bitter man as a result of this, and felt extremely stupid that he had fallen for such an obvious trap, ie for using *Offensive And Prejudicial Language* when refering to known habitual offenders, displaying *Misogynistic Behaviour* by repeatedly calling her "Love", "Questioning Her Sexual Orientation" (by asking if she had a boyfriend), and *Suggesting That She Stood-Back During A Violent Altercation To Allow Male Officers To Deal With The Situation* (she was 5'3", of slim build, and he had a daughter of a similar age...), "Racist Language And Behaviour" (despite having 2 mixed-race Grandchildren himself...), multiple "Health And Safety Infringements", "Not Providing Sufficient RAMS Documentation And Briefings Before Issuing Orders", *and for the outrageous crime of "Asking Her To Get Him A Cup Of Tea"* on numerous (documented) occasions.
    The subsequent "investigation" allegedly included recordings that she had made on her mobile phone without his knowledge (which are apparently not allowed in a Criminal or Civil Investigation without legal authorisation being given by a Magistrate before the recordings are made...), statements from career criminals that he had arrested numerous times over 15+ years (so they *obviously* had nothing to gain from destroying his career...), statements from various blue-haired "Members Of The LGBTQ Community" who he had no recollection of ever having met (and who couldn't prove that he ever had actually met them, but why would that matter...?), and statements about his character from his ex-wife who had acrimoniously divorced him over a decade ago when his daughter was 12 (and who therefore would not have been elligible for any financial benefit from his pension, because he was no longer liable to pay his ex-wife any costs relating to their daughter's upbringing from it, and she had married another copper soon after their divorce, so knew the system rather well...), and resulted in 18 months of intense stress, sleepless nights and huge legal bills, before being sacked in disgrace and losing his entire Police Pension, without any chance of appealing against it.
    His former Protegée had since had 2 other senior (male) officers dismissed after *very similar, and obviously very serious, allegations were made against them* (because Precedents had been set by his dismissal), and her "Career" (behind a nice warm desk, with several brightly-coloured flags on it, of course...) had taken-off at an alarmingly rapid rate as a result, *despite never actually having made a single arrest...*
    -Basically, that particular police force was short on cash to pay the currently-serving staff, so in this guy's words "they were "Maximising The Force's Resources" by not paying hefty pensions to anybody who didn't want to play the Woke-Game, and then using that money to pay themselves huge bonuses and send people who *did play that game* on f*cking stupid courses..."
    Now I'm no expert, but apparently people wonder why we can't recruit enough Police, and why those that we do have never catch any criminals, and I'm pretty certain I know why...
    But ^none of that is an excuse for the shameful way that Paul was treated^, and it isn't supposed to be, just an observation that I thought Id share...

  • @markgreenhalgh943
    @markgreenhalgh943 3 месяца назад +2

    There you go. A serving, contributing member of society. Dumped on, betrayed, and treated worse than the criminals themselves.

  • @laurencefahey3132
    @laurencefahey3132 2 года назад +54

    Unbelievable paul , I have a similar story but the robbers turned up to my premises with a gun I’m a roofing contractor and they came to rob the wages that were in wage packets in 2006 , unfortunately for my brother they pulled the trigger and shot him as they made their getaway, and 7 months later he died from his injuries. I actually understand first hand your nightmares , only difference for me is the police were unbelievably good and caught the scum who killed my brother. Your story will stay with me ❤️

    • @blair5475
      @blair5475 Год назад

      Did you hire someone inside to do those robbers for taking your brother's life?

    • @cahillgreg
      @cahillgreg Год назад +1

      @@blair5475 Shush now

    • @blair5475
      @blair5475 Год назад +1

      @@cahillgreg What? If someone took my loved ones away from me, they would pay dearly

  • @MrHammyHunter
    @MrHammyHunter 2 года назад +34

    The first thing I thought was 'that is unbelievable ' but in fact the incompetence of the police is very believable. I started watching you few months ago when I first started looking into Rolexes and your videos and advice are really helpful. I never knew anything about the 'system of getting a Rolex but am now very informed. Thank you Paul.

  • @herschelbrown9484
    @herschelbrown9484 2 года назад +3

    This is absolutely disgusting. What a total miscarriage of justice. I'm glad you and your child had no physical damage done to yourself. Unfortunately the mental will never leave. Sadly here in the US, the justice system does this every day to people, especially minorities. God bless you and all your efforts friend.

  • @kerrybayton2954
    @kerrybayton2954 Год назад +3

    The trouble with a guilty plea paul is that if you dont get a sensible & reasonable decision you end up serving time for something you should'nt & did'nt do!

  • @rickfowler3710
    @rickfowler3710 2 года назад +17

    Wow. This blew my mind. Your integrity is truly humbling.

  • @dukesublime4178
    @dukesublime4178 2 года назад +6

    Those police are vile.. shocker

  • @nannypippin7073
    @nannypippin7073 День назад +1

    Hi Paul, this video genuinely had me in tears to begin with. What a horrible horrific experience for you and your daughter! I watched the entire video and was so angry for you that I was seething with the injustice. I am going to watch the second episode now, please let’s hope that this is a different story and not a life lesson because if I have been bigging up the force for my life to learn that your experience is the norm now, well I might as well give up all flipping hope. Keep up your good work my friend, you’re gathering momentum. X

  • @rikwalton4378
    @rikwalton4378 12 дней назад +1

    People need to hear this story, thank you for sharing Paul

  • @SteveJones79
    @SteveJones79 2 года назад +4

    Hi Paul, I cannot believe the attitude of the police in this situation, a man defending his child against vicious robbers and only using a shotgun as a last resort and even then only unloading it into the ceiling, you have my absolute sympathy and I commend your restraint and totally support your actions and courage. As a side note I worked for a London, Knightsbridge based Gunsmiths and understand your feelings about the vintage shotguns as I dealt with the same on a daily basis, also I had dealings with the Met Police and the Sussex Police over shotgun licences etc. and believe me the Sussex lot were a nightmare, keep up the good work, your channel is a credit to RUclips and the watch community.

  • @martinpikna7603
    @martinpikna7603 2 года назад +4

    Wow Paul. That was touching and wish you blew those drongos away, but good on ya for keeping your cool. I had been scammed via ebay for $5k and the copper also told me something like “Well why did you buy such an expensive watch?” Like it was my fault

  • @leeoliver7151
    @leeoliver7151 2 года назад +17

    Paul’s a good bloke and this is one of the top channels on you tube. new content every day it’s sad he had to go through this

  • @jameshlife
    @jameshlife 2 года назад +6

    Wow Paul first of all so glad that you and your daughter was both okay .
    I can understand why are you always so protective and always giving good advice on security and people safety.
    Well done for doing this video it must’ve been hard. Wish you and your family all the best. X

  • @mauriebarnes8272
    @mauriebarnes8272 2 года назад +16

    I remember you talking about this in an earlier YT some years back. It was unsettling then to hear of your experiences and now you have given the full account it's an even a more harrowing tale. I sincerely hope that sharing this again in 2021 helps bring you closure. There is something terribly wrong when a victim is more scared of the Police than the robbers. Clearly, the Police took the easy route and went after the 'smoking gun'' literally as it was the easier option. Appalling indifference from those entrusted to serve and protect.

  • @karl.anthony
    @karl.anthony 2 года назад +42

    I was getting angrier the more I heard, so much so that I wanted to switch off, but couldn’t!
    I’m actually still angry now … so heaven knows how you feel! Anyway, you did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG - and most certainly didn’t deserve it as they had suggested!! You’ve dealt with it all amazingly; few would have been so brave in the moment and respectful after the fact!

    • @sflspotter6638
      @sflspotter6638 2 года назад +2

      He did do something illegal. He discharged a firearm in public. It’s completely asinine to think that Paul could be charged with something like that. But here in the US were not that far behind.

    • @karl.anthony
      @karl.anthony 2 года назад +1

      @@sflspotter6638 the law is occasionally an ass! … urinating and defecating in a public place is also an “illegal” act! And yet most would p*** and / or s**t themselves in that situation: maybe the police will start charging people for doing so in future!? Sense doesn’t always prevail - but so pleased it finally did in this case!

    • @Heywoodthepeckerwood
      @Heywoodthepeckerwood 2 года назад +2

      The left wants this for America. Eff them

  • @64croc
    @64croc Месяц назад +1

    Paul glad they didn’t press charges.
    Stay safe mate.

  • @Kit-vb5rm
    @Kit-vb5rm 2 месяца назад +1

    YOU HAVE MY COMPLETE SYMPATHY PAUL. I HAVE HAD ONLY BRIEF EXPERIENCE WITH THE POLICE, BOTH LEFT ME WONDERING
    WHY I EVER THOUGH OF THEM AS THE GOOD GUY'S.

  • @adamdj5029
    @adamdj5029 2 года назад +44

    Thanks for sharing your story. I now fully understand your angst with the police. It’s ridiculous that it took the police an hour to show up, and even worse that they charged you for a crime. You showed incredible restraint by not shooting anyone. Maybe it’s an “American” attitude, but despite our country’s violence, at least we have the right to defend ourselves. Not trying to get political. I’m just feeling frustrated listening to your story. Thanks for all you do.

  • @PaulThorpeOfficial
    @PaulThorpeOfficial  2 года назад +91

    Noted a few comments about the Music level. All noted. Odd it seems a lot better on a PC / Mac than it does on a mobile? Anyway, hope you enjoy this one. Thanks for watching.

    • @stupitt6989
      @stupitt6989 2 года назад +2

      I thought it was fine mate

    • @stupitt6989
      @stupitt6989 2 года назад

      Great video Paul 👍

    • @wayne59
      @wayne59 2 года назад +1

      @@Neil2022 yep with you on that one.

    • @thestig007
      @thestig007 2 года назад +1

      Music was fine on my PC with headphones.

    • @416jr
      @416jr 2 года назад +1

      It was fine brotha , anyone complaining are a bunch of wussies “nico voice “ 😂

  • @alansteele3757
    @alansteele3757 Месяц назад

    Paul, my late father used to say about the police. “There’s people behind bars for less” meaning they were the real criminals.
    Because your story just proves he was right. Keep strong 👏🏻🇬🇧

  • @paulchatelier8548
    @paulchatelier8548 2 года назад +10

    I remember this story from the previous video , it doesn’t get any easier to hear the second . Hopefully time will ease the pain Paul

  • @Areebahmedkhan1
    @Areebahmedkhan1 2 года назад +14

    Paul, no one can imagine what you must have gone through that day. I’m so sorry to hear this. Lots of power to you and to your daughter.

  • @sdm107
    @sdm107 2 года назад +17

    Unbelievable Paul. You did nothing wrong here. I hope you and your family have found peace after this awful experience.

  • @user-sh1qm3ux8g
    @user-sh1qm3ux8g 3 месяца назад +2

    So sorry for you and your family
    At least one thing from your experience, if I’m ever in your situation I’ll deny all knowledge of defending myself
    God bless you, your daughter and family x

  • @marton349
    @marton349 3 месяца назад +2

    Good for you man . Very brave and noble father.

  • @Puna65
    @Puna65 2 года назад +33

    At the time of writing it looks like Paul has at least 7 subscribers who are police officers.How can anyone dislike this video after what this man has been through trying to protect his daughter and property?Thanks for sharing this terrible experience with us Paul .I can fully understand now why you have a problem with the police force .They were an absolute disgrace the way they treat you.❤️

    • @yodadf
      @yodadf 2 года назад +2

      This is one retired officer he hasn’t lost! I fully support what he do. I think he showed remarkable restraint!

    • @dsanmiguel40
      @dsanmiguel40 2 года назад +2

      I concur

    • @PaulThorpeOfficial
      @PaulThorpeOfficial  2 года назад +4

      To be fair, I know a number of serving officers watch my channel and we remain friends. They aren't all bad and many do work very hard.

  • @stevenwebb9861
    @stevenwebb9861 2 года назад +7

    Paul, I have followed you on here for 2 yrs and more, you are a genuine guy one of the best! I can tell you, what defines a man is how he behaves and treats others and that applies to all the Police and the robbers too. It is punishment for them that they have to live with their actions perhaps one day they will all realise this like you and I do, and behave appropriately!!

  • @gerardjones1411
    @gerardjones1411 2 года назад +7

    As a long time viewer, and the second time hearing your story,I’m still amazed and shocked at your story, I still feel the anger boiling up inside me. I like you Paul believe in our beautiful country, I remember the police being part of the community , the local bobby who would frog March you home if you were being out of line . Where have those people gone . I know I shouldn’t watch two and three but , that how I support you !! . Bless you buddy 😍

  • @paullangton-rogers2390
    @paullangton-rogers2390 10 дней назад +1

    I can really sympathise with you Paul as I've been in the exact same situation myself and would like to share my experience and story. Although nowhere as serious as yours, it was still a harrowing experience I'll never forget.
    I was the victim of an attempted street robbery where a gang of youths attempted to steal my camera. I reported it to the police and was invited into the police station to make a statement which I did. Although the police were professional and sympathetic, I was in that station for 4 hours nearly with question after question. It was daytime when I went in and dark evening by the time I got out. They took my camera into evidence. And they took my finger prints (multiple times). At times it felt like I was the criminal.
    Just as I thought my ordeal was over it was about to get a whole lot worse.
    The police officer interviewing asked if I'd be willing to go with an officer and positively identity the person who attempted the robbery. I said I would. I go out the back of the police station and to my surprise there's a young female officer in the car (by herself) and she's fresh out of police training and younger than myself. Bearing in mind, the youths who tried to steal my camera are tough lads, a group of Pakistani and a couple of black youths known for intimidating people around the town center. Not a small gang, we're talking about 9-10 lads.
    So we drive into the town center and it isn't long before we spot the gang and I'm able to identify the ring-leader and one who tried to take my camera. The officer pulls up 100 meters or so away and goes over to the gang (leaving me alone in the car). While she is questioning them and they're clearly not taking her seriously, three members of the gang decide to surround the police car I'm sitting in, in the front seat and mouth death threats to me and I think one of them took a photo of me on his phone.
    At this point, after being almost robbed and attacked earlier and 4 hours in the police station I just wanted it to be over and get home. I hadn't eaten and was very stressed out.
    Then the officer decides to arrest the guy responsible, cuffs him and puts him in the back seat of the patrol car. She then leaves the car and goes back to speak to other gang members for some reason. So now, I'm sitting alone in the patrol car with the guy who tried to rob and attack me earlier who now decided to have a go at intimidating me in the car since the police officer wasn't present. "Do you know me?" he said, implying some threat. "You don't know me do you?" he said, in an effort to get me to say I made a mistake and let him walk. I tell him to shut up as he's already been arrested for attempted robbery and just likely to make things worse for himself. To which he cussses me and mutters something unpleasant about me under his breath.
    We get back down to the police station and he's led away into custody area and I'm asked to return to the interview room to give further evidence and wait for my camera to be released as they were dusting it for finger prints. Even though the whole area was covered by CCTV and it seems my word of being physically assaulted and nearly robbed wasn't enough.
    I didnt receive any update on the case so I have no idea if the police actually pressed charges. I certainly wasn't asked if I wanted to press charges. I had the impression from the get-go that the robbery and assault was racially-motivated and relayed that to the police in my statement but they were dismissive of that early on despite me being white and all the gang-members non-white and several remarks made which indicated a racial hatred element. So I had to make a second statement about the threats made towards me while I was in the police car and the exchanges with the offender handcuffed on the back seat. That took about another hour.
    In fairness to the police they did drive me home at this point. I wasn't looking forward to the prospect of having to go back through the town center to get a bus while a gang who had made death threats were still hanging around and it was by now late evening.
    So that's my experience. I can honestly see why a lot of people don't bother to report robberies to the police. If I was in the same situation again with the benefit of hindsight I probably wouldn't bother either. Because after that I was constantly looking over my shoulder around town and thinking about possible reprisals coming since three gang members has threateed my life while I was in the police car.
    At no time did the police follow up and see if I was ok or ask if I'd had any further run-ins with these individuals.

  • @bastarkmann
    @bastarkmann 2 года назад +10

    Paul, Thank you for sharing your story, really shocking to hear what you have been through. Well done for staying sane despite the horrible experience you went through and are still going through in the aftermath. I hope time will heal those horrible experiences. Your story was very well told and had me listening to each of your words. Thank you so much for sharing.

  • @chrishamilton2527
    @chrishamilton2527 3 месяца назад +3

    This is shocking. There should be an investigation into the police action. How can we have faith in the police when this happens?

  • @briannewberry1606
    @briannewberry1606 2 года назад +2

    Paul I also meant to add how much your channel has helped me. What you are doing is so educational and entertaining. I didn’t know much about watches other than I would just buy ones I liked….Panerai, Breitling….that was a comfort zone for me, wasn’t a money issue buying those lower end watches that I couldn’t afford Rolex or AP…just didn’t understand what is best model to focus on. Your channel and your videos helped me and pushed me to buy my first Rolex (James Cameron) and then Cermit….and recently solid 18K sub. Without you and your channel I would have never made that leap. Thanks brother for putting out content that brings others to your passion

  • @jfryer485
    @jfryer485 3 месяца назад +4

    This is not the England I was brought up in.
    There is something very dark here.
    I am angry

  • @joshs3916
    @joshs3916 Год назад +10

    So sorry to hear this. Glad you and your daughter were not harmed. 🙏

  • @darkrider6465
    @darkrider6465 Год назад +6

    Well done! You did what any normal man would do. Police in UK is pretty much useless.

  • @mrchalkie1
    @mrchalkie1 2 года назад +2

    Incredible how a victim of SERIOUS crime can be treated the way you were....WORDS FAIL ME.... it just shows you how broken the system is !!!! i would of acted the same way you did... thanks for sharing that story with us :-)

  • @flaw3dgenius222
    @flaw3dgenius222 3 месяца назад +2

    Absolutely sickening.

  • @denziloliver
    @denziloliver 2 года назад +7

    Shocked how this robbery was handled by the UK police. Business man and father protecting himself his daughter and his property how the f@#k does the police arrest and charge you. They should have to answer for their incompetence. Glad it turned out OK for you Paul. Love your RUclips channel mate, keep sticking it to them coppers 👌

  • @RaisedAce
    @RaisedAce Год назад +3

    You're a good man.

  • @starsnstripesus1
    @starsnstripesus1 Год назад +2

    What a story! You handled it better than I would have and shame on the local police for how they treated you. God bless you.

  • @dilwyngeorge6234
    @dilwyngeorge6234 3 месяца назад +1

    I know this may be not be any consolation Paul .An old wise said to me years ago better to be judged by 12 than carried by 4 .you did the right thing👍

  • @user-vy5cy6kq4h
    @user-vy5cy6kq4h 2 года назад +3

    Shocking, sorry to hear this. I believe the Police need to respond to this and accept foul play on their part and issue you a formal apology.

  • @bertsbluetractor
    @bertsbluetractor 3 месяца назад +4

    It sounds like you went through hell.
    I am glad things worked out in the end

  • @user-zb6el4ks2b
    @user-zb6el4ks2b 3 месяца назад +1

    have never heard such a story in my life .
    its great that this story is share as most like
    this are probable never comes to light ..........
    in my eyes you did what any reasonable person
    would have done and most people would
    have lost control with the gun .

  • @krishnar3493
    @krishnar3493 2 года назад +2

    Oh, boy! This is quite traumatic to listen to, just horrible. Most policemen worldover are serving well as parasites of society. They lack proper role models within their own departments they are serving under, a cultural rot. People just seemed to not care about this dire situation.Credit to you, PT, you came out of this hardship in one piece. A lot of folk would lose sleep and get derailed. But look at you now, with the shows you are arranging and how you keep inspiring us, you are still productive. No signs of abating. Well done, sir.