HOLDEN 202 SITTING FOR 15 YEARS WILL SHE FIRE?????
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2023
- Gday everyone,
Something a bit different this time as we try to get this old girl running again. I purchased this engine for a project that never eventuated and its time to make some room in the shed. 
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Yes bring on the gyro vid. Great job with the 202 motor.
Would love to see some stuff on the gyro
Hey bro you can set the timmlng by putting the timing mark on 8 then turn the key on dont start it or turn it over now take off the dizzy cap an turn the dizzy by hand till it just sparks thats when there about to open tighten dizzy now its set on 8 degrease.
Watching this reminds me of being a kid with our motorbikes back in the early 1980s great stuff Tim
That sort of thing we were doing in the late sixties on old PA Vauxhalls, and you know what those English GM iron engines were pretty much identical ohv straight sixes with one tiny downdraught carb with a gigantic oil-bath air-cleaner and super restrictive manifolding all sitting on one side of the head, all in 100% cast iron lol . . they even sounded the same . . quite a good sound . . 'actual' power not so much .. lol ..those were 138 cube engines (2,262cc) very similar in design and appearance to the old Holden 'grey' engine ..75hp at 4,400rpm!
I had a 202 in my '72 Land Rover Series 3 Safari station wagon...really miss that wagon, I turned it into a mean camping/traveling wagon.....
I did hear that the old red motor was a common swap for the Landrover. We all have the ones we let get away mate.
Btw did you get your package?
@@HarpersShed yea, they were a relatively easy drop in with a bell housing adapter and much better than the original Land Rover 6 cylinder. No package yet.
@@holgers5216 hmmm I will look into it, I don't know if I have the tracking number still. If I can't find it I will send you another one.
I started watching Harper's Shed to watch the boat rebuild, c'mon man keep this one boat, start another for your dad's gyro! Good luck brother
I have been into dad to start his own channel. The boat will always be the main project though.
This takes me back to a great time in my life from New Zealand
Glad you enjoyed it and brought back fond memories 👍
The mighty red motor, first saw light in the EH, retired from service in 1985 in the VK as the black 202.
Nostalgia engine, nice and smooth.
Love to see stuff on the gyro !!!!!!
Great to see and hear the old 202 firing up Tim.
I was glad to hear her run, I thought it made for an okay video too.
Be great to see everything you have on the gyro, bring it on 😇
Hell Yes Tim, anything build related is worth filming
I agree
Fair enough mate I will put something together 👍
Loving the boat content, but this is welcome too! One day I’ll give it a go… this week alone I did a first start on an 8.1 litre Mercruiser, and first launch of my sons boat… gotta get filming!
Thanks mate, yeah give it a go. I started with the good old smart phone. Still use it from time to time if I don't have the big camera.
good job mate :)
Would love to see a video about the Gyro Copter, and all about how it is built and how much work has gone into building it and how it works and what all is on the insides of it. Great video thanks for posting. Whatever it takes to get more boat money.
Glad you enjoyed the video mate, I will do a video on the gyro shortly
Yeah mine has been sitting since the 90's
Who? wants too see it fire first go
Absolutely mate grab a camera and make it happen 👍
That engine sounds awesome, not like these modern 4 cylinders.
They do have a distinct exhaust to them.
Oh, the Holden 6 cylinder cylinder heads can be machined to accept more modern oils seals because the original square rings tend to fail !
Nice had one in the LX Torana backed it with a nice 5 speed floor shift, got the fuel from 12 miles to the gallon up to about 30 miles per gallon after dropping the 3 speed [?] auto. Til it blew up, and some other 'thought he was helping', got a 179 for it. Nice 1 Jack! 😉 Thanks m8!
Bet you wish you still had the LX, worth a pretty penny these days.
@@HarpersShed Your not wrong m8 😢 even at nearly 67 😂Lookin forward to a Gyro vid, if if you have time.
South Africa Got Holdens for a short while. I drove one in the late 60 s . Regards Billy
I didn't think they actually exported them under the Holden brand. Learn something new every day, thanks for commenting 👍
That was really interesting to watch, it sounded so nice. I'd love to see the gyrocopter in action.
Glad you enjoyed it, I will definitely be putting together a gyro video shortly.
It's the original HQ Kingswood engine by the looks of it (the starter motor isn't original) because my dads old 1972 model HQ Kingswood wagon still ran the pre pollution valve rocker cover & open breather oil filler cap when he first bought it in 1080.
They are essentially a stroked 179 cubic inch Holden six.
He fiited his brother in laws 173 engine from his HQ Kingswood sedan into it in the mid 1980''s after it lost power,I think that it just needed new piston rings.
It had quite a few different engines in it afterwards after getting a 202 engine off a workmate which he bolted the 173 cylinder head onto,it went better with that cylinder head on it but the compression rings burned out due to using cheap supermarket branded oil in it.
Another 202 engine he paid $500 AUD for from a wrecker he had nothing but trouble with,the connecting rod snapped on cylinder number 5 after the piston seized up in the cylinder.
It was something Holden didn't get right with that engine in carburettored form because that cylinder tended to run lean.
He eventually bolted in another "202" engine (it was actually a 208 engine) which was pulled out of an LX Torana,it was recently rebuilt & it ran very smooth & went well for a 202 engine.
The previous engine came from a 1975 onwards car (Kingswood or Torana) AC well, they were both rear main rope seal engine blocks which ran the anti pollution valve rocker covers,my dad just vented the crankcase gases into the atmosphere.
The red 202 cubic inch Holden six only produced 66 kilowatts of power at the flywheel, the racing HQ Kingswood engines which are fitted with the Wade 933 camshaft produce the same amount of power as the 12 port headed black 202 cubic Holden six which was fitted into the VK Commodores in EFI form.
They ran the same spec of camshaft in the EFI engine as the Wade 933 camshaft which is fitted into the race engines, the EFI engine put out 106 kilowatts at the flywheel which is on par with the 130 horsepower 202 cubic inch racing engines.
My brother has my late grandfathers 1983 model Holden VH Commodore parked in my dads shed,it runs the blue 173: cubic inch Holden six,it hasn't ran since 2017 which was after my grandfathers funeral.
They towed it all of the way from Mullumbimby way to our area near Newcastle which was over 500 kilometres on the back of a car trailer.
I pulled the oil filler cap off & it still looked new underneath the valve rocker cover,he had it regularly serviced for 34 years of his ownership.
It would need a lot of work doing to it to Fix it up like the engine needs a complete reseal since the rear main seal was pissing oil out of it,it needs rust repair work again,the rear brakes don't work & the odometer stopped working at over 329,000 kilometres so it needs repairing !
Thanks for the comments mate, I must say that is probably one of the longest and most detailed one I have received 👍
good going on the 202... any content on stuff powered by engines would be good, especially flyable things!
No worries mate thanks for the feedback
good one keep it up R
Thanks Robbie
Gyro video would be great.
Tim bring the piston up close to top dead then stuff the cyl with starter cord or such like while holding the valve up then fit the spring.
Yes ta on the Gyro.
Eric
Solid idea, will have to keep that in mind if I come across the situation again 👍
@@HarpersShed take the cylinder to TDC lock the fly wheel and pressurize the cylinder with air it will hold the valve shut. Job done.
Had a few of then back in the day. Solid motors I am more of a small block guy but fuel $ think there done. Saw a vid where they put a LS head on a 4 cyl guess it worked very well. Good luck selling it then you can pour it into the pit known as kiarra. Gyro copter hell yeah. Cheers mate.
Lol yep I already have the money allocated and I haven't even sold it yet.
Just play the back up beeper theme song when you start pouring the mountains of $$$$$$$$ into keirra
@@moosenbeans903 lol yep that's about it
yes yes yes let's see the copter fly
Not ready for test flights yet but when it is I will film that to 👍
Coarse it will, and if you have a cold chisel and a rock and you need to repair it, you're laughing.....👍
Lol yep not much to the old girls, more simpler time of life.
I think that would be a great motor for kiarra and get that old gm 2.2 out
Still a bit small for the boat mate. I also have the 6cyl diesel that I'm rebuilding to go in her eventually. The MerCruiser is running very well now pushes her along at a respectable 8knots so she will stay for now.
Great subject, I know a lot of gyro pilots will want to watch a series on the gyro.
Is that an ej25 subaru on it.
Yeah mate that's a ej25 from an early Impreza I believe. Has been modified and running a Haltech ecu now
Yes to chopper boat bikes birds ect😂👍
Noice work mate, yes please to a video about your dads gyro!
So much fun without exhausts!
Ben
Lol yep, not sure the neighbours agree 👍
@@HarpersShed I started my Yamaha R1 without pipes, neighbours called the police! Thought it was gunfire 🤣🤣🤣
@@benthomas8411 lol, I just made a custom exhaust pipe for my big 90cc echo chainsaw it is sounds like a Motorcross bike on steroids, as soon a si fired it up the neighbours came round to see what I have brought now..
@@HarpersShed bit like an xt500 single!
They’re probably wondering…what has he bought now🤣🤣👍
@@benthomas8411 lol yeah I'm that person in the street that always has brings home the random stuff on the trailer and all the neighbours come out to see. I have brought some random stuff too
Can't beat a good old will it start 😊 but must admit it was the gyro that first caught my eye and if you're up for it would love to see more of it. Question for you, I heard awhile back that that if someone lived out in the sticks that the Toyota 4x4 was favoured instead of a land rover, not that I'm a landy lover as I'd much prefer a old Toyota myself. What's you're thought on this ??
As always great work young man 👍👍 Gary 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks Gary,
You my friend have stumbled upon a very heated topic of all red bloody Australians. There are only 2 choices for the bush and they are Nissan patrol or Toyota LandCruiser. Like I said a very heated topic and the cause of more than a few pub fights lol.
All seriousness though the more predominant vehicle when you head west ( me being on the east coast) is Toyota. There are the Landrover fans but not that many getting around as they just aren't as reliable as the Toyota. Having said that I'm actually a die hard Patrol guy and have owned several. Hopefully this answers your questions mate and take care.
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@@HarpersShed that's what I read, Landover can't hack the Australian roads and if you want to get from pub to pub get a Toyota 😀. I hope the world is treating you and the family well. Gary 🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@garyashdown5376 thanks mate yep that's about how it goes 👍
Can still get them over here in NZ. I've owned several cars with that motor in them including a Ford prefect 100e
Very interesting that the engine would be in a ford.
Don't blame me. I bought it like that
@@davidsutherland5044 lol wasn't blaming man just interested to see why they chose to do that swap. Would of been a cool car that's for sure.
Went like stink even though it had a two speed powerglide
I agree. Shoot the vid!
I notice a gumtree the 202 with transmission are going from 500 to 750
Yeah I have it up for $900 at the moment so probably a bit overpriced but always happy to be talked down.
I thought for a moment that you were going to put this in Kiara!
Lol nar mate still working on the BMW to drop into her
Gyro, yes please.
Owned a couple but last flew 15 years ago.
Nice, where they home built or factory units?
Both home built by someone else. One with a Rotax 447 and one with a 2 litre Subaru.
I think the regos were G108 and G1500.
No idea if they're still around.
Greetings from Darwin.
@@marktelford2160 nice man, hopefully we can get dad's up and running soon. Not too many home built units out there anymore. Seems like everyone is buying factory ones for 200k
Looks like the vauxhall 3.3 from the 60s enlarged from the 2.6 ?
Possibly mate I don't know the history very well at all unfortunately.
@@HarpersShed I believe its origins are pre WWII
It would be really interesting to see a Gyro video
I will put something together over the coming weeks 👍
Holden was built cars were built in Australia
If you do dads gyro.. Keep it seperate from ur boat.. Categorize purposes..for ur channel.
It will more than likely still appear on my channel at some point, while Kiarra is by far the main project and is more or less my only real focus I do still have so many other projects that I work on and don't think I have the energy for a separate channel to do these. It will have its own playlist though.
Not suitable to upgrade the 4 in Kiara?
Not really, actually less HP then the current engine and still petrol.
Good old torque spec FT+90deg 😄 🤣 😂
Just till the bolt strips then back 1/4 turn 👍
Sounds like water pump impeller.
I think it was crud behind the crank pulley. Doesn't make the noise now I have run it.
Will that fit in your boat?
Yes technically I could make it fit but not going to happen, less power than the 4cyl that's there and still petrol. The BMW will eventually get built and swapped in.
@@HarpersShed ok
show the flight...
When she is ready mate I will put up a video for sure.
Do we want to see a video or f the Girocoppter? Does a bear shit in the woods? Absolutely we want to see a video!!!!!
Lol I will make it happen.
water pump all dry
The noise ended up being some crud behind the crank pulley.
WD40 IS NOT A LUBRICANT !!!!! In that case dextron ATF would be best.
Not a lubricant but it is a penertrent, if it turned out to be stuck I would of went for something different. Plus it was the closest thing I had lol
Would love to see some stuff on the gyro
I will be putting something together very soon 👍