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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 8 лет назад +9

    The copper lands can also be to balance the amount of copper on each side to help with the plating process - Eurocircuits online DRC checker will sometimes complain about designs with a big difference in density between sides.

  • @photonBG
    @photonBG 8 лет назад +22

    The Cisco IP phone does NOT use a standard power over ethernet pinout, they use their own pinout. Because clearly standard power over ethernet does not provide the optimal configuration for the best VoiP experience, but changing the pins around makes it perfect.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff 8 лет назад +4

    Those caps have series resistors (typically 100R) , not inductors - they're snubbers for use across contacts - the resistor limits surge current when the contact closes

  • @craiggordon6567
    @craiggordon6567 8 лет назад +5

    Hi Dave:
    I took the plung and decided to try Tron Club. Ill keep you updated as the kits come in. thanks for the channel

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 8 лет назад +3

    I remember that GE cordless phone. They were very easy to eavesdrop using a scanner. You also hear other people's conversations on the same frequency. LOL 49.975 mhz.

    • @maxfactor4209
      @maxfactor4209 3 года назад

      Correct.. infact one of our national tv channel was broadcasting in nearby frequently and you guessed it, whenever our neighbor was making a call, we had some commercial breaks listing to her cheesy n 18+ phone calls

  • @denniswoycheshen
    @denniswoycheshen 8 лет назад +3

    glad you are back... was having withdrawal.
    I think I might join the tron club. this would be perfect to show my daughters how circuits work. and also help me understand how electronics work. thank you for posting this. I've been watching your videos for a long time and never miss a mail bag. thank you Dave.

    • @mgscheue
      @mgscheue 8 лет назад

      It looks quite cool.

  • @LasseHuhtala
    @LasseHuhtala 8 лет назад +11

    "I won't take it apart.. or maybe I will." - Dave 2017

  • @nekomasteryoutube3232
    @nekomasteryoutube3232 8 лет назад +2

    Always nice to see another Mailbag, first one of the year too ;)
    I hope you and your family enjoyed your vacation/get away Dave.
    - A random Canadian

  • @dextrodemon
    @dextrodemon 8 лет назад +5

    i think when there was that bit of residue magnetism with the electro-permanent magnet thing it was because you had magnetized the steel plate you were demonstrating it with.

  • @steverobbins4872
    @steverobbins4872 8 лет назад +3

    Did you notice the crappy layout on the Cisco IP phone? There are some DC/DC converters on the board, and they put the high-current loops on inner layers, rather than on the surface. That means their switching current run through the ground planes, probably making the whole board pretty noisy. Basic rule for beginner power supply designers: keep the two current loops tight and on the surface, and connect to the inner power/ground planes with vias only at the input, output, and common nodes. I haven't seen any videos on RUclips about this, so it might be a good subject for one of yours, Dave.

  • @bulwinkle
    @bulwinkle 8 лет назад +16

    That's one way of disposing disposable wrist straps! 😂😂😂

  • @MaxKoschuh
    @MaxKoschuh 8 лет назад +3

    Yay!! Mailbag. Welcome back, Dave.

  • @krypticmac
    @krypticmac 8 лет назад

    good evening Dave!!! So happy your back hope holiday was great for you. Been looking forward to you coming back.

  • @Spector_NS5_RD
    @Spector_NS5_RD 8 лет назад

    SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dave's back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "Let's have a squiz!" "We're in like Flynn!" I need all your catch phrases in my life, daily. Don't ever leave me again, Dave. While you were gone, I had to re-watch previous mailbags to get my fix.

  • @hugomartel8552
    @hugomartel8552 8 лет назад +5

    links from IF cans to crystals is very common in CB tranceivers and some ham radios too

    • @TheBananaPlug
      @TheBananaPlug 8 лет назад +2

      Dave admits he is not savvy on RF, so we generally forgive him those bits of ignorance :)

  • @RobertBardos
    @RobertBardos 8 лет назад

    Welcome back Dave!

  • @BCGARAGE853
    @BCGARAGE853 8 лет назад

    FINALLY BACK. happy new year

  • @canadianavenger
    @canadianavenger 8 лет назад +6

    The TronClub stuff is interesting. Looks like maybe the 2nd kit you got is actually the 1st kit, but from the Advanced stream, as both are "Kit #1" in the menu. [would explain the double bread-board]

  • @JanPaulini
    @JanPaulini 5 лет назад

    I love the Tronclub idea, I have subscribed just to refresh what I have learned a long time ago.

  • @Cracktune
    @Cracktune 8 лет назад +2

    Tron Club looks amazing!

  • @theradiomechanic9625
    @theradiomechanic9625 8 лет назад

    be interesting to see how good the port isolation is on that antenna duplexer.

  • @airthrow
    @airthrow 8 лет назад

    I really like the tronclub and the permanent magnet module! These might be the first items I get that I learned about on eevblog...advertisers take note!

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 8 лет назад

    I remember when we first got that Cisco system in where I used to work. the setup was a nightmare but it was reliable.

  • @bepowerification
    @bepowerification 8 лет назад

    You are awesome. I know very little about electronics but you are a very entertaining person and I watch you like I binge-watch series.. and well, the more I watch the more I know about electronics. Thank you!

  • @frankbose544
    @frankbose544 8 лет назад +1

    love the videos keep up the good work ive learned so much watching your videos they definitely inspire me to go to school for ee n good to know theres fans in indiana thats were im from dont really seem theres alot of people here that love electronics design .

  • @linuxman0
    @linuxman0 4 года назад

    TronClub!! I'm very intrigued and think I'll subscribe. I had no idea that there was anything like that available. I can see TronClub being just wonderful for a child to be introduced to the field of electronics. These days, that could lead to all sorts of incredible things. This seems like something that would've been done before.

  • @omitsura
    @omitsura 8 лет назад

    Cisco is convoluted way of doing anything! I recall someone commenting semi-jokingly that back in the days, their security was provided by the fact that there were so many different builds made for router os.

  • @danross1489
    @danross1489 8 лет назад +1

    Brilliant move by TronClub, that kit is going to pay for itself many times over. I think my 7 year old nephew is about ready for these, as long as we build them together.
    Hey, if I tin the leads of all the components, and then bake the completed breadboard in the oven in a small tray, do you think its plastic will flow into the shape of a nice white featureless iDevice? Because, we're going to have a lot of breadboards by the end of this.

  • @matthew5866
    @matthew5866 8 лет назад +2

    9:38 the breadboard is probably so you dont have to tear apart other kits. as well as for new members

  • @idle2600
    @idle2600 8 лет назад

    Neon lamp on the handset antenna circuit? Shuffle your feet across the carpet on a cold, dry day holding the handset and then zap that whip antenna to a metal doorknob.
    You'll see it light up, if only for a brief flash.
    Very cool as always!

  • @Justsquareenough
    @Justsquareenough 8 лет назад

    *waits for more details on that meter!*

  • @pldaniels
    @pldaniels 8 лет назад

    Where does one acquire one of those delightful "I only give negative feedback" shirts?

  • @CampKohler
    @CampKohler 8 лет назад

    I'll bet that mains cord attachment at 03:04 was not OEM, but was a replacement. I think the crimped splice seen at 03:23 confirms it, because who would want to pay assemblers to wrap a joint with tape instead of using a quick crimp? Also UL would have something to say about mains voltage being exposed when the tape lets go with age.

  • @MrMarkb68
    @MrMarkb68 8 лет назад +1

    Dave, the Tron Cub kits you were given, It look like you got t he first one of each range. Basic and Advanced.

  • @voltlog
    @voltlog 8 лет назад

    34:50 Dave keeps giving us sneak peaks at the new eevblog meter :-)

  • @mballew32
    @mballew32 8 лет назад +2

    its certainly not long term reliability on the Cisco VOIP phone. We use those at work and we've had to replace several units because the hook switches would fail after just a few months. Especially in areas where the humidity would be a bit high. So many issues from those phones

    • @brianhoehn949
      @brianhoehn949 8 лет назад

      Yeah I have alot of these phones at work. The hook switch is horrible for reliability. They're also an easy fix though. Just straighten that wire back out again and good for a bit.. I noticed there is a better design in later models.

  • @gingatim
    @gingatim 8 лет назад

    A bit of info on the Cisco phone...
    We are still using these exact phones for all desk communications. I work for a government department where calls made NEED to be secure. These are part of few fully closed systems left on the market. By fully closed, I mean we run the whole system, from call managers to end phones. The only thing that anyone else controls are the phone number allocations (we have a block of numbers we can allocate). The main feature of the phones we care about is the encryption. If someone makes an internal call from one phone to another, the call is encrypted end to end. Not even myself as an IT administrator can listen in, even though I have full control of the system.

  • @JennyEverywhere
    @JennyEverywhere 8 лет назад

    Those pushbutton-pulse dial phones were weird, but I took a lesson from them and built a relay-driven pulse dialer that connected to the joystick port of our Apple II+. With a database I built in Applesoft, I would use that to dial into bulletin-board systems nearby, so we could connect via acoustic coupler modem.
    I believe the neon bulb in the antenna line was a low-tech static protection. It gave some bleed off in case there was a nearby lightning strike, or shocky carpets.
    Brings back memories...good times, good times...

  • @makerKID5
    @makerKID5 8 лет назад +22

    I'm so early the title is wrong. EEVblog #964 Mailbag* (instead of EEVblog964 Mailbag). Good video as usual.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  8 лет назад +36

      You win a brass Razoo!

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 8 лет назад +9

      9+6+4 = 19 x 35.06 = *666* *ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED*

    • @mattroh7248
      @mattroh7248 8 лет назад

      No u pece of sheet

    • @IRCXDS
      @IRCXDS 8 лет назад

      Mathieu Riesling omg I think he knows how to spell and use a hashtag. How dare you. This is disgustingly rude to just totally correct him like this.

    • @andycristea
      @andycristea 8 лет назад +8

      EEVblog i googled "brass razoo" and learned a new phrase! Thanks Dave!

  • @RabidBadger_
    @RabidBadger_ 8 лет назад +1

    Long term reliability of the switch in that Cisco phone is directly tied to the amount of makeup worn by the user.

  • @w8nwo
    @w8nwo 8 лет назад

    1990s Nortel system phones have a very similar hookswitch with the spring wire and conductive plastic contact. Surprisingly, it seems to work well.

  • @vapenation7061
    @vapenation7061 8 лет назад

    Dave you are getting close to EEVblog #1000!

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. 8 лет назад +12

    "Build in fault"
    Sounds like brand new ripped jeans xD

  • @LeoH3L1
    @LeoH3L1 7 лет назад

    Dave, the PWM input is what is used for controlling it, you would connect that to a spare R/C channel, R/C model systems use PWM for all servo and speed controller control inputs, typically it is a pulse that varies between about 1 and 2 milliseconds.

  • @Tigrou7777
    @Tigrou7777 8 лет назад +1

    EEVBlog ? Mailbag? 2017? Instant thumb up!

  • @gregadams558
    @gregadams558 8 лет назад

    The interface is a one-port PoE switch. You connect to a PoE switch and then connect your pc/laptop to the port for IP traffic. The other port is for console headsets and such. We still use them in the US.

  • @MarcinKurczalski
    @MarcinKurczalski 7 лет назад

    I think that we, the community of EEVBlog, should make a ultimate list of things Dave loves playing with! I'd start with:
    - rod antennas
    - nipples (nixie tube as well as VFD)
    Please fill in the list

  • @BigJewDaddyAndy
    @BigJewDaddyAndy 8 лет назад

    I posted something on the EEV forum about one of those lights I couldn't figure out. Mainly couldn't figure out why it was where I found it.

  • @314sami
    @314sami 8 лет назад

    I don't mind at all if some companies want to show their products more than once. Maybe you could just put them on hold for some time and then show them like once a month at the end of mailbag video like you did this. Thanks for great video, Dave!

  • @HotForgeChaos
    @HotForgeChaos 7 лет назад

    I had a couple of the old Dick Smith beginner electronics kits, pretty sure I still have one kicking about in my credenza, I know I'm missing a few components though

  • @janis.berzins
    @janis.berzins 8 лет назад +1

    That kit is real cool!

  • @vex9060
    @vex9060 8 лет назад

    Dave you forget to open up the cisco handset, revealing the big metal piece for ergonomics and mention the great design behind the good feeling when you hold old cisco handset. In the newer models there are no metal weight... Cheers

  • @Bob11808
    @Bob11808 8 лет назад

    Missed you Dave!

  • @Tyler-gv6zf
    @Tyler-gv6zf 8 лет назад

    Love your content! Thanks for being awesome!

  • @AndyPhu
    @AndyPhu 8 лет назад +1

    I'm signing up for tron club right now!

  • @lukearoo
    @lukearoo 8 лет назад

    having watched a few of your mailbags over the last couple of years i do wonder of a quick sneak peak at everything at the beginning of the vid would spoil the suprise or help keep people hooked

  • @TheDefpom
    @TheDefpom 8 лет назад +1

    I noticed my mailbag videos are very popular too... seems people get excited about opening mystery mail!

  • @Zamsky39
    @Zamsky39 8 лет назад +2

    What do you do with all the gear people send you after you open it and show to us?

  • @Tofufiche
    @Tofufiche 8 лет назад

    That cradle mechanism is oddly satisfying.

  • @PyroRob69
    @PyroRob69 8 лет назад

    The interface box on the Cisco phone is a 3 port 10/100 switch with POE.

  • @laurensa.1803
    @laurensa.1803 8 лет назад

    I've had to replace one of those RIVA capacitors in an old sewing machine. The smell was quite exceptional and there was a lot of water for some reason...

  • @khronscave
    @khronscave 8 лет назад +47

    30:30 Send the powerbank to bigclivedotcom for testing :P

    • @macdonalds1972
      @macdonalds1972 8 лет назад +4

      Shipping will cost more than the value of that thing.

    • @lolman123401
      @lolman123401 8 лет назад

      I got the same powerbank for 3CAD at my local dollar store lol

    • @macdonalds1972
      @macdonalds1972 8 лет назад

      What for? It's too weak to power the Red Potato.

    • @keithdunn521
      @keithdunn521 7 лет назад

      Big Clive always takes the pink one. Its cos he is secure in his masculinity. :)

  • @LuisTeixeira
    @LuisTeixeira 8 лет назад

    Regarding the electropermanent magnet, being a device for putting in drones and RC hobby gear, most definitively the PWM input is likely a standard PPM hobby receiver signal input. Quite convenient to operate the device from an assigned knob or switch in the RC transmitter.

  • @scarrypolpetta9006
    @scarrypolpetta9006 8 лет назад +2

    I'm sold on tronclub
    It's quite expensive for a student, but you get a lot of amazing stuff plus good instructions and, the best part, you get steps to follow

    • @macdonalds1972
      @macdonalds1972 8 лет назад

      But you don't learn anything from it.

    • @scarrypolpetta9006
      @scarrypolpetta9006 8 лет назад

      Yes, i know
      But for me it's more important to have a schedule than having someone explaining me what I'm doing
      It would be great to have a teacher like Dave, i try to follow his videos, but most of the time i don't understand them because i just don't have the basics, i haven't build enough circuits to really understand them

    • @tomaszwota1465
      @tomaszwota1465 6 лет назад

      @@macdonalds1972 ...soldering? Measuring/recognising elements you're about to solder? Getting closer to proper technique because of the occasional screw up?
      You don't learn how to design a circuit just by putting it together, but plain "nothing"? Come on now...

  • @HighlandSteam
    @HighlandSteam 8 лет назад

    The phone cradle is done that way to stop the "ram" down of the handset on to the delicate switch and pcb.

  • @cadikaorade828
    @cadikaorade828 7 лет назад

    @25:00 Those aren't copper squares, that's a crosshatch in the ground plane. Square cutouts.

  • @dmanhattan1
    @dmanhattan1 8 лет назад +7

    @ 34:40 "mystery meter" ? Exact same color? Hmmmmmm..........

    • @LiamTronix
      @LiamTronix 8 лет назад +1

      If you look closely, the dial is a bit different than the EEVblog branded meter.

    • @dmanhattan1
      @dmanhattan1 8 лет назад +2

      DangerousAndAwesome I realize that, I was insinuating possible new EEVBLOG multimeter? Off all the way to left, flush selector switch, holster sticks out past face of meter for protection, ALL things Dave likes. Also, that blue....

    • @LiamTronix
      @LiamTronix 8 лет назад +1

      Huh, I hadn't consider that. I can't see any other reason why he'd keep the meter offscreen. Now you've got me excited.

    • @dmanhattan1
      @dmanhattan1 8 лет назад

      DangerousAndAwesome When for the first time I can remember in any video Dave did not say exactly what multimeter he was confirming measurements with, then kept it off screen, I paused the video to look at it and noticed the couple features I pointed out along with exact color match. That was the only conclusion I could come up with for what my eyes seen in that few seconds of the video. 🤔

    • @LiamTronix
      @LiamTronix 8 лет назад

      Yeah, well it would make sense. I mean, not mentioning the name of the meter is one thing, but literally calling it a "mystery multimeter"... Eh, I think it's probably a new one. Though the original Brymen 235 is pretty feature rich, I'm not sure why he would be rebranding another meter.

  • @St0RM33
    @St0RM33 8 лет назад +2

    What's the mystery multimeter?!?

  • @BrekMartin
    @BrekMartin 8 лет назад

    That Cisco on hook switch later got upgraded to an IR light chopper.

  • @bassblaster505
    @bassblaster505 8 лет назад +3

    9:00 i see a TO-220 device, i love TO-220 devices! along with TO-3, TO-3P and TO-247

  • @ZomB1986
    @ZomB1986 8 лет назад

    That Cisco phone looks identical to Yealink phones we have at work, even down to the sliding thingy next to the cradle switch. (Office models are have a much smaller display and this looks like a model that only the secretaries have.

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 8 лет назад

    The sound it makes when magnetizing itself is similar to the sound of a marble bouncing on a hard surface; loud, infrequent pulses that get softer and closer together. Maybe you could use your scope and probe around a little?

  • @n0cternal
    @n0cternal 8 лет назад

    I have a few Cisco 7961 in my lab. Their 'power budget' is 12.95W as it is a PoE device. The phone declares itself is a 'class 2' PoE device - which means it will never require more then 6.3W. I've never tested current draw on PoE to get actual numbers.

  • @HilltopComputing
    @HilltopComputing 8 лет назад

    You're killin' us already with those vague multimeter teasers! Announcement anytime soon??? :)

  • @rbmk__1000
    @rbmk__1000 8 лет назад

    Dave, I could be wrong but I think the reason the cisco phone was designed that way was to minimize the clunkidy clickey noises when you hang up the phone in a quiet office, a apparent concern for many office products of the time, like ultra quiet keyboards, quiet mode bios settings for computer hard drives and fans and "hush" mode switch setting on the office vacuum cleaner.

    • @macdonalds1972
      @macdonalds1972 8 лет назад

      So you had to whisper when you made a phone call?

    • @rbmk__1000
      @rbmk__1000 8 лет назад

      Mac Donalds I never said it made sense but it was a thing

  • @dieboodskapper
    @dieboodskapper 8 лет назад

    Cisco zen....Could not help but notice the 10 pin Power Transformer used for the PoE 802.3AF compliant SMP power supply - I use the same transformer in one of my PoE compliant products!!!

  • @rimmersbryggeri
    @rimmersbryggeri 8 лет назад

    I had to switch out all the rifa caps in my 70's sewinf machines only 1 had failed though was cracked and burnt. The other ones were just a precaustion since they were rated 220v and our line voltage is now 240-250 .

  • @saeedabulhusn4625
    @saeedabulhusn4625 8 лет назад

    I still own and use a cordless phone. In fact, it is right here on my desk weighing down papers that I've forgotten about :)

  • @Tinkercatnh
    @Tinkercatnh 8 лет назад

    Really like your box cutter!!

  • @pierre3727
    @pierre3727 8 лет назад

    16:26 are those pins on the mainchip shorted?

  • @jfwfreo
    @jfwfreo 8 лет назад

    That electronics kit reminds me a lot of the old Dick Smith Fun Way books I had when I was a kid.

  • @DjResR
    @DjResR 8 лет назад

    Those Rifa capacitors were quite common to crack and still operate with it until moisture gets in.

    • @tubical71
      @tubical71 8 лет назад +1

      the ones in my A77 R2R machine released their "beautiful" smoke when i serviced that machine and gave it a testrun to see if the main transport worked...after ten/fiveteen minutes...yea..some like artificial fog....but with an ugly, disgusting smell as well....that "Rifa" smell, for those who know....

  • @cs2dsb
    @cs2dsb 8 лет назад

    We had 3 out of 20 of those cisco phones fail because of the strange cradle mechanism.
    The PM using his all the time broke two of the three in under a year. His solution was to use the speaker phone in the open plan office. Our solution was to bin his phone.
    To be fair to Cisco none of our phones were brand new but they were allegedly reconditioned and can't with a warranty.

  • @timeremapperegor1249
    @timeremapperegor1249 8 лет назад

    I'm still using one of this this old radio-telephones in my own home!

  • @arn_abs8882
    @arn_abs8882 8 лет назад

    I absolutely love how Dave speaks ! I wish I could :(

  • @pasixty6510
    @pasixty6510 5 лет назад

    Something about the ,piracy‘ issue 1:50 : As you say, it was a great issue, that nearly anybody, who had a matching handset was able to enter your phoneline and make (long distance) calls over your line. So listening to calls was no problem at all that days. But also the anti-piracy-feature didn‘t work, if you knew how to work around it. haha... it was quite easy to crack those pairing mechanisms as long as it all was implemented in analog technique.

  • @djcrimmy
    @djcrimmy 8 лет назад

    i picked up a couple of video phones from a yardsale i am hoping to turn them into a intercom system

  • @alemjcn
    @alemjcn 8 лет назад

    Hi Dave , regards from Slovenian viewers :)

  • @willynebula6193
    @willynebula6193 8 лет назад

    ahhhh I needed my fix thanks dave👍

  • @km5405
    @km5405 8 лет назад +1

    what a good way to start the morning before college ;)

  • @Squall762
    @Squall762 8 лет назад

    Wow that is crazy with the amount of wrist straps in that Cisco phone! Did you want all of them? :P

  • @AtulClassics
    @AtulClassics 6 лет назад

    That was a serious cutter...you used in the beginning to open the pack

  • @RPBCACUEAIIBH
    @RPBCACUEAIIBH 8 лет назад

    I'm still subscribed, and getting notifications as usual, didn't encountered any problem what so ever...

  • @gregadams558
    @gregadams558 8 лет назад

    The OS is loaded via tftp from a Cisco device.

  • @fohdeesha
    @fohdeesha 7 лет назад

    finally an Indiana shout-out on eevblog - never thought I'd see the day :p

  • @xylfox
    @xylfox 8 лет назад

    4:10 Date Code written wrong? Shouldn´t be 8548 instead of 2548 ???

  • @Manawyrm
    @Manawyrm 8 лет назад

    Dave, be careful with the 12V cig. lighter thingy from Red pitaya, they are known to spontanously combust into flames and giving 12V out the USB port.

  • @AnarchyEngineer
    @AnarchyEngineer 8 лет назад

    It'd be interesting to see how much current/voltage those disposable wrist straps could take before they started to burn up (or would the carbon bit just get really hot?)

  • @WobblycogsUk
    @WobblycogsUk 8 лет назад

    We had those Cisco phones (or very similar) at the last place I worked. The biggest problem with them was that they were too complicated fro their own good. If your job revolved around being on the phone I'm sure they were fine but if you just needed to make a call now and then they were a total waste of money. I seem to remember the call quality wasn't all that great either.

  • @beeleo
    @beeleo 8 лет назад

    I love Dave's videos and I know it's just for effect, but all I could think for the first few minutes was... "Now THAT'S a KNIFE!!!"