Why This Stage 2 Modified Saab 9-3 Made Me Feel Something Very Unusual...
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I learned to drive in my dad's '08 9-3 aero, and all through highschool me and the guys would spend hours screaming through the backroads! I always thought that thing was a race car. dad would have killed me. lol.
I dont think the best cars need to be the prettiest or the quickest, theres just something about them you never forget.
That's why I've kept my 06 Saab 9-3 - for my son to learn to drive in a proper manual. Hopefully this summer
It’s alright Jay, as you grow older, your body will start to change and you’ll begin to have urges and feel emotions. This is perfectly normal and part of life 😂
Saabs are awesome - shame GM ruined them
GM ruins almost any brand, except chevy.
@@kingofohio5689 It was swedish goverment who krash all saab have buyer but some idiot spoiled all in goverment, beacous they think one are gangster fro russia!
I think the later 9-3s are just Vectras, Vectras weren't bad cars but they weren't a Saab kinda car
The 2007 Saab 9-3 aero has the 2.8 liter turbo gm engine and happens to be the fastest Saab from year to date so you can't entirely blame gm alone
@@brettmorris4082 which company was responsible for turbo charging and tuning that engine?
SAAB
I bought many cars, but the best one was Saab 9.3 2007 , 1.9 Tid Diesel ... thanks to Saab for best type of cars ..
I have the 2008 saab tid at home , very nice
@@dimmacommunication hi, would you go with diesel again? i can get the most basic 1.8i (non turbo) and Im tempted as the car shell is the same and i dont care about speeding so much.
@@viliamgajdos5917 With the gas saab you will spend a lot on gas , diesel is better :)
@@viliamgajdos5917The diesel one is faster and better ;)
Saab wanted to build better than GM was thinking, thats why their teamwork didn't work for a long :C Saab
I’ve got a V6 wagon with all the Hirsch performance bits fitted. Including the Bilstein B8 dampers and Eibach springs fitted. And I really love it. I think you’ve got to just “Get” the Saab way. It took a while, but slowly and surely my car got under my skin, and now I’ll be gutted when the time comes to sell for a more economical car when the new house comes along.
Just get a smaller house, you'll be grand.
Your mistake was buying a auto diesel, saab 93 aero 2.0T or 2.8T is a legit weapon 🔫
Specially the 2 8t
@@jamesfoye9665 I used to prefer the V6 when I was younger but now a true saab has a turbo 4cyl to me
@@PierreColombo900 i have the 2007 saab 93 2.0l T and it is a beats, i can rip down the streets while getting 24mpg ahah
@@razark1435 My dad used to have an NG900 SE and now got a 2011 93 aero so I know what you're talking about man 😉
9000 Carlsson then the Aero 2.0T. Very fond memories.
I’ve got the lowest output 1.9 TiD in 6 speed manual estate form. Love it. Still goes well. Especially on the motorway.
I would love one of those 120 hp models
I dunno, its just a daily driver. Does it really have to be that exciting for that role?
(considering you do have other fun cars)
Best car ever made. Better than BMW Mercedes. i Know what im talking about. I buyed almost all models and had also Benz E220 from 2002 and 2008. I sold it and drive now Saab 9-3 2008 year. Its driving better safer. To bad that they quit
The design of the 9-3 ages very well. It is sort of timeless and doesn't come across as old as it is.
Right! The 9-5 didn’t age very well, the same year model and it looks a lot older than the 9-3
@@AnythingGasoline The 2011 9-5 looks brand new still though, crazy good design
@@eldafint yes I forgot about that model 9-5!
Yesssss I love mine ❤️
You mentioned many cars in this clip but none of them beat SAAB.
Compared to an Alfa Romeo, say the 156 or 159, the SAAB lacks style and design flair IMO.
My 1999 Saab 9-5 has 217k on her. Runs strong, currently modified a little. Very well built car.
Saab is amazing I’m looking to buying my 5th saab 3 second generation saab 9-3 and 2x Saab 2008 9-3 I am an enthusiast and I love them
SharksLivesmatter I have a saab 9-3 aero xwd 2008 black for sale
Owned Saab cars for 40 years.. all brilliant and reliable. On my last 9.3 tddi. 200,000 on it and still going strong.
Baba Narr, as proved on Top Gear, you know how expensive a Saab is when you survive a crash in one!
Each to there own I guess. But I owned a 9-3 for almost 5 years, and loved every minute of owning it. Mine was the single turbo vector model, with 150bhp and 16v 1.9 diesel engine. There is also an 8v 120bhp diesel, which I would avoid because of the lack of power.
But unless you throw thousands at it to uprate the suspension, shock absorbers, bushes etc, it will only ever be an "all rounder" but an accomplished, comfortable all rounder it is. And if you maintain it regularly, and dont rag it about, it will get you to your destination without so much as a whimper.
I only got rid of mine because the turbo was on its way out. But not bad going for a 12 year old car with 92k miles to still be on its original turbo. It was a very reasonable car to run.
I now have a Volvo V50, 2.4 D5. And that is a lot of fun to drive. But it is only a 5spd auto, so I miss the extra gear of the Saab. But I do love the way the Volvo kicks down, with 500 extra cc's, it is much more agressive.
@@Cloud007. It was leaking oil I think, so may have been a cheapish fix to fit new seals and innards. But tbh, I wanted an estate for practical reasons, and searched for months to find a 9-3 estate with everything I wanted, full cream leather, auto box with paddle shifters, 80k or less miles, and blue or grey paint. But all the ones I saw were either tatty unloved ones with more than 100k miles, or just over priced ones from trade sellers. So I bought a Volvo instead. Its took a bit of money to get it all sorted, but I'm almost there. Just the cam belt, discs and pads, and possibly a new engine mount. Then the rest is just superficial cosmetic stuff. 👍
@@Cloud007. I might buy a 2011-12 9-5 when the price is right, cos they are gorgeous cars.
The TID's are probably the worst engines for the NG9-3 and it's from Fiat, even has issues with flywheel and clutch, the B207 2.0t are amazing aluminum engines and overall the most reliable Saab engine ever, with regular maintenance they can still feel like new after 500k kilometers and the 2.8t can make up to 330hp from the factory.
Cool car! I wish we had this trim in the U S!
9-5 Aero is where it's at 👍
2.3 turbo? if yes agreed
9-3 viggen is cooler
Gripen is where it's at
2.8 V6 for me 😎
I love an old Saab...!!!
70s to 90s...😁👍
they are okay. Not a fan of the styling or headlights. I have a 2008 9-3 aero
I have a Stage 3 2001 9-5 Aero. There were only 163 of these in the silver with a manual gearbox. I'm sure there are less than 100 on the roads now. Never getting rid of it.
Just saw this older video and must say you've come a long way. This was good your new ones are even better. Cheers!
I had a 2004 9-5 aero manual and was the best all round car I have owned at the time I was doing a lot of courses and using company 275ps 3.0D Jaguar XF’s around 2012 MY and the Saab done everything they done easily
Jay try a MG ZT or a 75 1.8 Turbo extremely comfortable good on fuel and decent power I've got myself a v6 75 and I can't help it but fall in love with it the way they eat up miles is really impressive and they are not bad in corners either
SAAB FOREVER ❤️
"Sorry mate I've got shit loads of editing to do"
Doesn't edit out the phone call
It is true that saab do still exist they make jet fighters for the sweedish airforce
Different company. The SAAB that makes aircraft sold the SAAB that makes cars in 1990.
Jabber 1974 did not know that 👍
When nevs wanted the saab name to their new cars the swedish airforce said no because it belongs to the airforce, fun fact.
@pseudoswitch True the government cucks itself if there is a economic gainage.
Saab still exist but make jet engines
Every time I see one of these 9-3 saloons I am reminded of how the 4 door 99 might have developed. Its all there is the sizing progression, proportions and design details.
I work in a motor trade for a very long time Saab cars were the best going back 80s 90s 2000
I have Saab 93 2,2tdi from 2003 they are really good cars.
Saabs are bloody brilliant! I love mine! And this particular one is absolutely beautiful and sounds amazing! How you can say it doesn't do anything for you just winds me up 🤣
It's very, very, very bland. Why is the interior so plain for example? The nice tan Momo leather interior of a Alfa Romeo GT is so much more stylish. I feel like even an old Honda Accord Type R has more "passion" than this SAAB somehow.
I am a Saab fanatic. I love it :D
Maybe check a V70 T5. Wagon goodness, manual, softer and 5 cylinder sounds.
Saabs getting rare and collectable people starting to appreciate them. You get alot of bang for the buck, poor man's rolls Royce. 💪😎
That would be a jag then!
As a man who has 2 saabs, they are most certainly not rolls royce, not even a little bit. They're made well, but don't follow the same philosophy at all.
PMSL @ 'poor mans 'Rolls Royce' what a muppet
Nahh Rover 75s are the poor men Roll Royce/Bentley
@@ACERASPIRE1 My 9000s blew away my Jags for comfort & space. Still to this day the best leather seats in any car I've been in and the car that got the most compliments from anyone who rode in them. The GM Saabs however... Meh.
Looks like a great car. I had a F30 BMW 330d and it was absolutely brilliant. RWD, 8 Speed ZF, flappy paddles, ~250Bhp, 0-60 in ~5.5s, relatively luxurious, great handling and over 40MPG! The offer still stands to try my 435d BTW.
Cheap (to run) daily?
Look no further than a high mileage manual(has to be a manual) BMW E60 530d
get it ecu-tuned and daily in a stock 290HP, 720NM glorious car. You might dislike the styling of the E60. I love it. Try for a hard to find white one, otherwise a silver one.
You'll thank me later.
The E60 is one of those cars that has looked better the more it's aged.
MylesHSG especially as the F10 is so ugly and less reliable apparently
@@MylesHSG As a previous owner I can tell you that it has two design elements that are less desirable.
01- side view of the nose, it is too round. Modern bmw's have a more square nose.
02- also side view and that is the piece of the shell above the fuel cap. It's a large area where nothing is happening.
2 minor things.
When I see a titan silver E60, I just get feelings all around my body.
Upgraded to a e92 335i, because only in the States was the E60 sold with a N54 engine. 535i.
Great production on these vids, great content
My first car was a Saab 9-3, 1.9 tid and my average MPG was 62, even driving like a muppet it barely dropped below 60 and on motorways it'd be in the 70s! Actually now I wish I'd never sold it, but hey, I've got a Saab 900 T8 Turbo now and a 900 16v xsi, So I'm happy... wallet is empty due to fuel costs, but happy xD
I've got a SAAB 9-3 Vector 1,8t myself. Lower end in terms of power, but as far as cars go it's a luxury car in terms of comfort, handling and is deceptively quick and nimble. It holds acceleration speeds to compare to an Aero cabriolet that tried to outrun me.. but failed, until I let him because I wasn't all too keen on doubling the speed limit on a highly surveillanced road. But beside that it feels like it has all the bells and whistles that you need to pay through the nose to get today. I've driven taxis, which in Norway tended to be the more expensive Mercedes and all other manners of brand spanking new cars, that felt less modern than my 2005 9-3.
I probably won't ever find a car that rivals this one. The end result might be that I make it a hobby car while tuning and seeing what kind of power I can get from its original engine. I'll have no desire to push it to limits of breaking it, but just making it a proper grand tourer.
Fingers crossed some ex-SAAB Aerospace engineers restart the SAAB auto company, and build some legit weapons (cars) for civilian consumption, their cars are literally fighter jets in car form. :0 🤞
Pfft yeah but it was an auto box there's your problem right there!
That was an unusually long rant about you buying a car you didn't like. You bought the bastard of SAABs and got punished. Diesel is not for SAAB.
I love my Maptun stage 6 9-3 2.0T
I tried a 9-3 aero last week totally stock and it was amazing too drive very confy.. Your look shaky.
2006 Saab 9-3 SC 5MT B207r. 3 inch intake to turbo compressor mouth, with new vacuum lines to the wastegate actuator. Preload on the wastegate with vacuum nipple on intake larger than stock leads to a steady reading of 15 psi via OBDII and a mechanical gauge reading vacuum and pressure off the manifold (Bosch gauge reading 30 vac max 20 boost max). Intercooler and intercooler boots replaced, stock 25" core Valeo intercooler with a 2006 VAG Audi 2.0 7" by 8" by 3" side mount sitting behind the main grill. Lag with the intake and intercooler is non-existant. Welded catback exhaust sticking with a 2.5" bridge on the resonator and stock 2.25 all the way back to a 2.5" perforated through body muffler and 3.5" tip. Hangs on stock hangers, meets with stock flex pipe. Replaced 16" 5 spoke "Open" wheels (16x6.5 41offset) to the 17" 10 spoke "Aero" wheels (17×7 49offset) with 8mm hubcentric spacers. Goodyear Eagle LS2 Runflats (205/50/R17) with 400 treadwear come in at -0.8% of the original wheel setup circumference. It is unnoticable. It is lightyears in terms of enjoyment from stock, but I think I might attempt a BSR stage 1 tune. No one local can use Trionic 8, and im too afraid to flash my stcok ECM as this vehicle is my daily. Old saabs never get slower, just louder...
What's the torque and hp look like on that set up?
You'll need a dodgy MOT tester to pass it without the DPF
I think you're over thinking this.
...and to bring a really depressing close to the film, get stopped at the level crossing in Stowmarket 🙄🙄😄
I've had an 9-5 aero 05, fun car but not reliable at all. Now i have an s60 2.5t R 06, much more reliable, comfortable and just as fun, even with less power.
A good comfy long ranger and well handling car is the GTC. I took one right across Europe.
I have MY 08 9-3ss 2.0t with maptun stage 1, maptun XT series lowering and gas struts, 8 years almost i have been driving this car, this car drives like its on rails, perfect for very twisty road, boost is also very good, plenty of power, and AS Saab is, the sweet spot is 90km/h and up, where it really goes like a madman, iv beaten all sorts of cars with the Saab, where other loose theyr Pull, Saabs keep pulling
Great to see a full review of this on the channel, sir! I remember the privilege of seeing the car in person. I couldn't believe something looked so purposeful could have such low fuel bills, and a Saab of all things! Thanks for this...
Honestly I think if you kept it longer u are just afraid that you'll fall in love with it
Yes,we all have a dozen ABBA tracks on a hardrive somewhere.
@@alittleodd1 also a Swedish car
Jeremy Clarkson was taking the mickey out of Saab calling them a bunch of idiots I wonder who made him say that on one of the Top Gear's
I owned a 2.3 Aero a few years ago and it was an absolute beast! I own a mk2 ST3 now and the SAAB was drastically quicker, especially when the Turbo kicked in, I know you didn’t get yours for that reason but I reckon you should find a 2.3 Aero petrol and review it 👍 I guarantee it will rearrange your organs 😂 good vid btw
Are you sure the head unit is oem?? I think thats aftermarket since it doesnt look like the ones saab did...
It's not OEM
All you needed was a petrol manual.
"they assured me that SAAB does still exist as a company"
Literally you can just Google it and visit their website. They don't make cars anymore obviously, just planes, jets, ships, submarines, missiles, RADAR systems, etc.
Saab cars still exists as NEVS. They have released an all electric 9-3
don't forget Scania trucks! :)
I really want missles and a radar on my convertible to be honest.
It left you cold because it's a diesel. What the heck were you expecting?
I've driven nothing but SAABs since 1972 and couldn't be more pleased with my choice Right now I have a V-6 9-3 Turbo-X with Haldex X-wheel drive that I bought new in 2008. In a few days it will be 12 years old. It's still a rocket that's the most fun to drive of any SAAB I've owned. Essentially trouble free too. I just had a rear brake job and replaced a tie rod but other than maintenance it's been GREAT...
Why are you speaking like you think you're hosting on Top Gear?
I think that was actually a quite positive review! Just selling my Saab 9-3 2.0T Aero, 2007. Love the car, had a previous 9-3 diesel and loved that too, only selling the Aero as I can get a cheap new car from my employer. Would highly recommend a 9-3 as a cheap and usually reliable cruiser, plus they're a bit different from the norm.
So sad to hear that you are relinquishing your Saab. Shame.
I have a 2009 Saab Aero 9-3 1.9TTid
I have it 4 years and never a days trouble with it. There is 225,000 miles on the clock now. I put 115,000 miles on it. Thanks to Saab
Hey do you still own the Saab, how’s it running? Thinking of buying the same spec as yours with 110k on the clock.
Perhaps an older Merc like a C class or E Class, great for long miles and good on fuel economy. Plenty of different body styles to go for as well.
It's an auto and a diesel.
Why?
Sincerely,
A Viggan owner
So, what car with manual transmission - which will 'waft'along and be nice and comfortable on motorway journeys - would you get? For 'waft' an earlier Citroen might be good, maybe?
Citroen for sure!
good thing you sold it bud... beauty right there
I would really really really love it!!
had many Saab’s.
93 diesel sport is great. liked 9-5 too. saved my life in a rear end. accident. yes they are made of granite.
Who has that car now? I'd love to have it off them when they've had their time with it, that's perfect to me!
The 93X with the 2.8 turbo V6 is surprisingly fast, and hilarious, have you driven one jay?
93 Turbo X. Because 93X is only a wagon with "allroad" plastics with either XWD 2.0 gasoline on 1.9TTiD FWD.
Both are enjoyable though :)
Damn, yes PLEASE 😍
i have a 93 from 1999 chipped with program 1 and feritta out more than 225 horses. real villian.
sleeper! very funny to drive cause no one knows what they are up to.
So what you might save on fuel, you will pay for in extra tax.
I had a Saab 9-3 1.9 Diesel on an 04 plate. It was possibly the worse car I have ever owned. Yes the seats were comfy, but it was crappy build quality, everything rattled inside, it handled like a boat.
I never thought it would be so bad.
Mine was a 54 plate. It was atrocious. The worst built car I've ever owned.
GM couldn't replace their signature car the Corvette with a Saab 9-3 which beats the pants off a Vette. I have a 9-3 Sport Combi 2T it's very fast, agile and 35 mpg hwy. GM just didn't know how to sell them and didn't care because it was patents they wanted. First Saab was a 1974 99LE wish I'd never parted with it.
I think it's down to the gearbox. I've currently got the auto 9-3 (closest aero when I was looking) and it's not a great gearbox that kills the car a bit.
the old saab auto's with the sport button deploying normal or maniac ready to kick off settings was better than the semi manual option which is normal auto or super slow slow dimwit manual ("oh you want to change down to accelerate out of a corner... give me a minute... what gear are we in? ....and what are the revs?...now, what gear did you want again.." etc)
I'll travel the extra distance next time and get the manual
I got saab 9_3 2008 tid and its a lovely car allover! coming from BMW 320d 2012! Not noticed difference!
30 years ago I owned an airflow 9000 Coulson with the full body kit doorslabs and big big bumpers best car I ever had and I sold it and bought a 5 series 520 what was I thinking ,,, has anybody got a time machine,,,!!!!
I understand the origin, but if looking at nature vs nurture. The nature provides one set of abilities. In these cases, they have the ability to I guess, tag team someone in , that has the best ability to complete the task at hand.
Think about that, you have the ability for being the nerd, and if there is a need to setup/answer something technical, and sometimes the nerd is going to screw up the situation, so someone who is not as technically intelligent, but who is a little more aggressive, can face then , in certain situations can complete it better.
The problem is the trauma. It’s still present and can cause interference. I believe that people run away from pain and hurt. I believe that the pain and suffering which is avoided, becomes a boundary that limits or causes issues now or down the road. That’s the truth, but the situation, goals, along with other factors need to be considered, when how deep, and which direction is explored. Understand that if there is no major issue, then don’t worry about it, just live life and pursue happiness. Sometimes answers might improve these situations, but if it’s pushed a little too far. Even more issues can become.
I felt it when loneliness was mentioned. I am so sorry, and that’s the best wording I have. Sorry. I have been enlightened of my situation more and more in the last, three, four years. What is worse is that they have been exploited, and ignored at the same time. I have been presented with choices that I don’t want to make. Loneliness is truly experiencing.
15:00 I definitely would, except for everyone eating.
suzuki swift sport my friend cant go wrong
mikuelable agreed. I get 45.6mpg out of mine
shit on fuel, yaris t sport way better
I own a mk1 swift sport and I get nowhere near 40mpg (average around 33) but I think that's because it is absolutely impossible for me not to take it to the red line on every journey, its just such a fun car to thrash lol
Mighty City 💪.
Hello. I've owned many cars, and among them, my Saabs were the best, and the safest.. they saved my life. I'm glad you sold your's.. to someone who can apreciate it.
Damn that thing sounds like a jet. Need my saab to sound like that its stage 3 just need an exhaust
Everyone loves Saab just bought number three
Can't beat an auto for daily mundane driving.
Got a 1994 Saab 900ng convertible 2.0t stage 3 tuned, wich is quite fun. Hilarious handling with 260-270-ish hp.
Got a 2nd 900ng convertible wich just had to be saved from the scrapyard (because the roif wasnt working anymore... Fixed that)
And most recently I've bought a 2005 Saab 95 2.3t with an auto gearbox.
As cruisers, i really do like them.
For the more fun roads, I still have my Corrado vr6, wich is the complete opposite of the 2.0t convertible.
"Owning a Diesel in uk is going to be increasingly difficult over the next few years" Utter balls in my opinion. Not in the next 3 years, not in the next 5, probably not in the next 10 years. Commercial vehicles will need it for a good while yet and people will still be using and working on them for decades to come. Bit alarmist if you ask me.
It cost me £25 to go watch a film in London because this car didnt meet regs and that's now
@@JayEmmOnCars Of course mate but i think petrol won't be too far behind in London especially with ev's. But crucially you've missed the point, i don't live or drive or want to drive to and around London in a car and most people in this country are in the same situation. London isn't the UK if anything it's another country altogether, literally ;).
You should have watched the film in Bolton them.
Jay. It takes for ever before you actually start talking about the jem of a car your actually driving. And - you should clean up the engine bay. And the remark ”pretty well put together” is the understatement of the century. This is a properly well built car. Not like the german competitors back then that looked well built but where cheap shit underneath.
I’ve just bought a 2ltr petrol stage 1 map tune anyone know what is the best springs to lower it and any other mods I can do under the bonnet cheers
I'm not massively into Saabs but my uncle had a 2.8 9-3. I believe he lowered it on eibach springs and Bilstein b8's. He said the strut brace made a difference to the handling too.
Here's his thread if you want to see what he did to his: www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1536914
It will be perfect with a manual gearbox
James it's the oil seals in the oil gallery they go hard and they don't hold pressure so much that's probably the reason bit like a BMW behind the megatronix you have a bunch of seals
i’ve owned my 9-3 wagon for 3/4 months now and it’s brilliant, only the 120hp 1.9 but it’s nippy enough pulls well through all the gears. just got back from spending a week down in bude from the midlands and was perfect on the motorway and even on the little cornish back roads
Been running Saab's, since 2012, had a Vector sport, Linear SE, now on a TTiD Aero, and my next will be a Stationwagon (as I plan on getting some dogs).
I am firm believer that they still stand out from the crowd (especially in black with the Aero trim) and the cabriolet is just timeless.
As has been said there is something you can't quite put your finger on, as to what makes them so special, they get under your skin like no other car (certainly true of any car I've had in the past) and once your bitten that's it.
I agree they are not for everyone, but they are undoubtedly a clasic timeless car (just look at the prices good ones are still fetching).
Such a shame that no one thought them worth saving, RIP Saab.
'Woulda, shoulda, Couda .....' that's what age & experience gives ..... Looks-wise at least, I think it's great!
Just bought my turbo x from my cousin. He had his fun for 5 years. Now is my turn. Haha. And Canadian winter is coming. I am going to have fun.
As someone who owns a 9-3 that has upgrades gas ,250 hp and all the other stuff, your review is fair. It does lack emotional thrill. My old school 1989 900 turbo was more fun , but as I live in Quebec, Canada it is a great winter car.
You need a 330d, manuals available (and the only sensible option pre f series)
I had the same indifferent experience toward a 8th gen honda accord I purchased as a mile-munching daily. It was a lovely car and there was nothing 'wrong' with it whatsoever, but didn't quite resonate with me, it happens and there's nothing wrong with wanting a daily that you also love as much as your other cars
It actually sounds like a fighter jets 😂
SAAB was such an awesome company and built great cars - pity that GM didn't invest in it and nurture it - big mistake and very sad for SAAB lovers worldwide...
I have stage1 of this model im very impressed TBF! how much for stage2?
I really enjoy this channel. Came upon it the other day and I'm just binge watching your channel. Helps that I just picked up an 07 Exige S 😁 You need more subscribers! You should already have more!
I couldn't agree more!
I bought a new Saab 9-3 TTid aero in 2010, it is still in the family and now has done 93K. I like it.
13 miles to the gallon extra is not justification over a M3 to me. With the extra cost of diesel on top of that in reality how much cash are you saving? A tenner?
The 30 mpg bmw was the 1 series (I assume)
@@DrDarashin Yes there is no way his M3 is only 13 MPG worse than this.
@@voivod6871 There is also no way this car should be getting only 40mpg... I had the single turbo version and it rarely went below 60, average was 62 when I sold it and in theory the twin turbo version is more fuel efficient, that car should be getting 70mpg without much problem at all... O.o I mean, even when I drove mine like an utter twat or was sat in traffic wasting fuel, it'd be barely below 60... I even calculated it myself over a tank as I was sure the read out must be wrong, but it was right. It would get 120 miles on £10 of diesel. Basically free motoring as far as i was concerned.