I did your save game ad it wasn't really that bad. The templates aren't the worst and I did it about a month faster than bittersteel with a more allied favored peace deal. The main problem was really just the mismanagement of your conscription and trade as explained in the video. That and the overabundance of troops compared to your equipment in storage. simply defending and doing small counterattacks to get back some vital industry combined with buying guns on the international market fixed the equipment deficit when I tried your save. Within two months I had your templates in a full 126 division army with no deficit. Your template isn't bad because the low combat width makes it so that your divisions can stack together in multuple terrains with few combat width overstacking debuffs. All that mounts to say is you had the germans on the ropes and only nneded to be patient and wait out the storm. And the germans shots themselves in the foot the instant they declare war on the soviets which diverts so many forces that you could easily defeat the germans while they are distracted. All in all, you did good, you just got a bit impatient and perhaps a bit nervous when you had to fall back
Imagine being the Germans. You’ve nearly conquered France and are now fighting for Paris but then suddenly the enemy becomes bloody Napoleon and managed to win
Not really unexpected, Germany's early war conquests is only thanks to the simulation of Allied high command's incompetence, so with a lengthened Battle of France combined with Bitt3rsteel taking over and the AI shooting itself in the foot with an Operation Barbarossa it's not ready for, they would quickly lose their steam and become open to large-scale counterattacks.
Imagining the French PoV would also be funny given what he does first. High command: Général Aigracier, the Maginot line is fully encircled, the entire south of the Métropole has been overrun and our frontline is so close to the capital our soldiers can see the Eiffel tower from there. You are our last hope against the German onslaught, what are your instructions? Bittersteel: Here are some economic reforms I want implemented ASAP. Also, start demobilizing the army and ground what's left of our air force. High command: Wait wha-
It's more actually - it reduces the -50% night penalty to -25%. This means instead of doing 50% damage at night, you do 75%. This is a 50% night attack buff, not 25%, and 16.7% overall, not 12.5%. Those are some insane numbers, that's why this doctrine is so good.
Île de France (Paris region) alone is basically like ~18% of France population wise, if you add all those northern cities, it's probably half of France.
The jump to Scraping the barrel is something OGs do, back from when mobilisation laws were all at 150 pp and the mobilisation was instant lol. Why waste the pp?
I have played hundreds of hours and I dont know how some of the mechanics work :D I had no idea for example that you need to do those concription in steps.
Honestly I’ve survived holding literally just the colonies, Brest, Bordeaux, and the Maginot line (minus Metz, they somehow took Metz). It was quite a painful game.
Reminds me of the old "Half a France" Disaster save from when the original player was holding down at the South. I don't think the situation is any better, but at least this player always had the Metropole to support them! (Is the Metropole actually any good industry wise?)
Just imagine when WW3 kicks in and france gets in this situation, but suddenly a strange man pulls up, freezes time, completely reorganizes the country and wins WW3
About grand battle plan, it gives better stat whe you have the planning bonus at max than any other doctrine under any circumpstances, howevere the main draw back is that you need to have the planning at max to beat them all, so spamming reinforced hq on you breakthrough army is a must, as for GBP left or right the main argument is right remove half of the night penalty while left can get your planing bonus even further beyond, mathematically right have a better stat on average on the entire day due to less penalty at night, but left having more planing bonus make that bonus last longer so the breakthrough will go deeper in the enemmy line. In the end you cant really say that there is a mathematically best path for GBP, it depend on if you think you can break you enemy line before nightfall or if you think you want to break less of the line but be sure to break it even at night
Imho, you need planing bonus only to make initial breaktrough (1-2 tiles) in sp. Night penalty and supply reduction bonuses are much more useful for making encirclements because you can't use planing bonus for defense. Also if enemy makes landing or breaks through your line it's better to have at least some bonus damage from night atack than to hope that you will have opportunity to get planning bonus. Conclusion: entrenchment speed and night atack bonus is more usefull for maneuvers while planning bonus is usefull only to push whole line but in case if something requires some sort of maneuver you will end up in very bad position
It's really incredible, I think I already know everything about the game and when I watch your video I realize that I still have a lot to learn, thank you very much for the tips, they really help a lot.
GBP is actually pretty nuts with France due to stacking with "protected by the Maginot" You do gotta spam "staff office plan" due to planning taking AGES but the bonuses are big and thicc.
For GBP, it depends. Going left unlocks overwhelming fire, which is a good counter, and I think overall better for div variety. Going right is great if you're poor and can only afford infantry, but have a good handle on planning, logistics, AA.
left is broken, i use to be a superior firepower supremacist but after i got 3k soft attack and 2k breakthrough on a 24 width mountaineer division, i have seen the light
About GBP definietly right side it gives so much entranchment bonus and planning so if you are hevaily focus inf and art units i think best doctrine in the game
This game is not easy to learn, sometimes it's too much stuff to manage and you end up taking bad options, you don't know the important aspects of each part of the armed forces. But it's a learning process and at least he had some industry, he created a defensive line, he had a good number of guns, not so many casualties. I think he could have done this themselves just consolidating (making the units bigger and with a full bar of strength) and fixing his industry by demobilizing.
Last night my game went something like this, I went the commintern path and fort up to hold up to 1941, but the axis decided to invade Swistzerland and punched through my front before I notice. I capitulated and holding Toulon with Soviet troops
Wow, you managed to play france much longer than i ever did. Every time i try to play france i start new game, look at spirits, look at focus tree, get a spirit "true franceman" irl, give up france playthrough and go for salvador or afghanistan world conquest (salvador is arguably the easiest nation in the game)
This is actually somewhat historically accurate. General Charles de Gaulle considered to keep fighting for France either outside in London, or remain in France and move the remaining forces to Brittany. Here, France has even bigger bridgehead including the north.
I will defend GBP as that boost to Naval Invasions is a game changer. But usually I got left in the tree for it. GBP I find works well for UK, Italy, and Japan as they need to invade so much.
This save was so bad I'm surprised you weren't convinced it was fake! Especially when you saw it was 41 and he had somehow only done 2 years worth of focuses 😅 That shocked me the most, it means he must've been sitting on no focus for at least 2 years!
I love how France is desperately making a last stand in the mainland while their allies are just fucking around in the UK and in the colonies. Truly historical.
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This was my game!! Thanks for the tips and roasting me lmao, was well deserved
Zamners
good try, look more into guides mate.
So where was France taken from?
Any time!
I did your save game ad it wasn't really that bad. The templates aren't the worst and I did it about a month faster than bittersteel with a more allied favored peace deal. The main problem was really just the mismanagement of your conscription and trade as explained in the video. That and the overabundance of troops compared to your equipment in storage. simply defending and doing small counterattacks to get back some vital industry combined with buying guns on the international market fixed the equipment deficit when I tried your save. Within two months I had your templates in a full 126 division army with no deficit. Your template isn't bad because the low combat width makes it so that your divisions can stack together in multuple terrains with few combat width overstacking debuffs. All that mounts to say is you had the germans on the ropes and only nneded to be patient and wait out the storm. And the germans shots themselves in the foot the instant they declare war on the soviets which diverts so many forces that you could easily defeat the germans while they are distracted. All in all, you did good, you just got a bit impatient and perhaps a bit nervous when you had to fall back
"As historical as possible"
- went National Bloc
- went Agressive Focus
Btw French AI sometimes goes with National Block
National Bloc is the most optimal route though, since you don't get Matignon agreements
@@konbkob4156but it’s not as historical as possible
@@konbkob4156If you don't do Magniton Agreements then you get the labor strikes tho
@@kaigao4842not true? at all?
"Division d'Holding" lmao
Mon dieux c'est garbage
Imagine being the Germans. You’ve nearly conquered France and are now fighting for Paris but then suddenly the enemy becomes bloody Napoleon and managed to win
Yeah wait it out another 20 years again, 3rd time is the charm
You ever heard of a little operation called barbarossa?
Not really unexpected, Germany's early war conquests is only thanks to the simulation of Allied high command's incompetence, so with a lengthened Battle of France combined with Bitt3rsteel taking over and the AI shooting itself in the foot with an Operation Barbarossa it's not ready for, they would quickly lose their steam and become open to large-scale counterattacks.
Imagining the French PoV would also be funny given what he does first.
High command: Général Aigracier, the Maginot line is fully encircled, the entire south of the Métropole has been overrun and our frontline is so close to the capital our soldiers can see the Eiffel tower from there. You are our last hope against the German onslaught, what are your instructions?
Bittersteel: Here are some economic reforms I want implemented ASAP. Also, start demobilizing the army and ground what's left of our air force.
High command: Wait wha-
I swear, half this man's channel is saving Frances that've been cut in half
right in grand battle plan because of that +25% night attack bonus, basically a +12.5% flat attack modifier
yeah people tend to ignore the biggest benefit of GBP
Also as far as I remember the right path gives a bonus to the basic recon company so that it boosts the soft attack of infantry battalions as well.
left has insane battleplan bonuses that give u crazy stats, try it out if you havent (no idea if right has this lol i was just sayin)
It's more actually - it reduces the -50% night penalty to -25%. This means instead of doing 50% damage at night, you do 75%. This is a 50% night attack buff, not 25%, and 16.7% overall, not 12.5%. Those are some insane numbers, that's why this doctrine is so good.
@@wuli3579 Don't know why Bitt3r doesn't acknowledge it besides preference. Is it really that 🤓 tone that irks him on GBP at Reddit?
Not to worry, we are still flying half a France
Bitt3rSteel had done this before. In terms of this save, that's about a quarter of France lol.
@@sakeburyojo4218 Yeah the Maginot only France hahahaa
Was about to comment that lol
More than enough for players
Another happy encirclement.
"Mon Dieu, c'est garbage" got me laughing hard.
The fact he's talking about the Division d'Holding makes it even funnier
My french got hurt 😢
J'ai senti mon âme quitter mon coeur même ma poubelle était choquée elle m'a dit il parle de moi là
Going as historical as possible. Has Laval and didn't capitulate.
Hmm.
Also went battle of maneuver lol
wasn´t Laval a collaborator and got executed after the war?
I thought the exact same thing. I was like “Bro says he went historical but didn’t go popular front”
title: we still have less than half of france
start screen: like 15% of france
Île de France (Paris region) alone is basically like ~18% of France population wise, if you add all those northern cities, it's probably half of France.
Well, 15% is indeed less than half haha
20:01 Britain actually gave you 57 guns LMAOO
oi found these Inna old warehouse.
But did they give him a sea mine?
Alternate title: Bitt3rSteel gains braincells after a disaster save (instead of losing them)
Bitt3rSteel try to not roast the shit out of the previous player challenge (impossible)
Will we see a France guide?
Hmm, I could look into it.
@@Bitt3rSteel Okay.
@Bitt3rSteel it's called capitulating
@Bitt3rSteel LETS GOOOOO
Video 10 of asking you to cash in on your promise: sealow heights, 27th april start, all debuffs, video ,ou ask for is on castlereaghs channel
The jump to Scraping the barrel is something OGs do, back from when mobilisation laws were all at 150 pp and the mobilisation was instant lol. Why waste the pp?
"Maurice Gamelin is really good". That's a sentence you can only hear about a videogame.
3:56 the french accent made me so shocked that i had to check your channel’s info and check where you from😅
Frist time
Belgium 🇧🇪
18:18 THE CODEX D'ÁSTARTËS APPROVES OF THIS ACTION
Scraping the barrel!!! At just THREE percent levied manpower! WTF!
This has to be a troll.
I'd say he just panicked about loss of so much land and all manpower of said land.
I have played hundreds of hours and I dont know how some of the mechanics work :D
I had no idea for example that you need to do those concription in steps.
@@jarskil8862Are you the guy who sent the save?
@@jarskil8862Reading all the tooltips is crucial. Half of everything I learned, I learned from tooltips
@@Blackandwhitecat-to5llthe guy who did is now pinned
"Italy is...Italy."
You're right you funny little waffle man, Italy IS Italy
“The war situation has developed not necessarily to France’s advantage” Bitt3rsteel, loading screen, 1941
Honestly I’ve survived holding literally just the colonies, Brest, Bordeaux, and the Maginot line (minus Metz, they somehow took Metz). It was quite a painful game.
26:08 i really hope it was a reference to Napoleon lol " I have destroyed the Austrian army by simply marching "
As a French, hearing your pretty good french is always fun :)
Thanks! 😃
Always love to see these long form videos of saves. Thanks for the upload BitterSteel!
God, i could listen to Bittersteel speak french all day
Reminds me of the old "Half a France" Disaster save from when the original player was holding down at the South.
I don't think the situation is any better, but at least this player always had the Metropole to support them! (Is the Metropole actually any good industry wise?)
Lots of manpower and factories,yes!
it reminded me of the time a france disaster save he played where the original player only held brest and the northern most tiles of france
@@rechteherz4131 World's thinnest France!
Bittersteel must collab with other youtubers for their saves and play co-op their saves
especially with Colonel Cam, it gonna be entertaining or Isorrowproductions
17:10 baguetteers 📈
how the hell did you watch that far in two minutes?
@@Sednasit’s the power of Escargot
I love all the accents you have during the vids. "LA RESISTANCE HON HON HON" LMAO
Just imagine when WW3 kicks in and france gets in this situation, but suddenly a strange man pulls up, freezes time, completely reorganizes the country and wins WW3
Atleast, they have this capital which saved it from capitulation
About grand battle plan, it gives better stat whe you have the planning bonus at max than any other doctrine under any circumpstances, howevere the main draw back is that you need to have the planning at max to beat them all, so spamming reinforced hq on you breakthrough army is a must, as for GBP left or right the main argument is right remove half of the night penalty while left can get your planing bonus even further beyond, mathematically right have a better stat on average on the entire day due to less penalty at night, but left having more planing bonus make that bonus last longer so the breakthrough will go deeper in the enemmy line. In the end you cant really say that there is a mathematically best path for GBP, it depend on if you think you can break you enemy line before nightfall or if you think you want to break less of the line but be sure to break it even at night
Imho, you need planing bonus only to make initial breaktrough (1-2 tiles) in sp. Night penalty and supply reduction bonuses are much more useful for making encirclements because you can't use planing bonus for defense. Also if enemy makes landing or breaks through your line it's better to have at least some bonus damage from night atack than to hope that you will have opportunity to get planning bonus.
Conclusion: entrenchment speed and night atack bonus is more usefull for maneuvers while planning bonus is usefull only to push whole line but in case if something requires some sort of maneuver you will end up in very bad position
Great video man! Can't wait for the next one!
Nice Video keep it up!
Holy crap that naval advice was really helpful, ty!!
It's really incredible, I think I already know everything about the game and when I watch your video I realize that I still have a lot to learn, thank you very much for the tips, they really help a lot.
GBP is actually pretty nuts with France due to stacking with "protected by the Maginot" You do gotta spam "staff office plan" due to planning taking AGES but the bonuses are big and thicc.
The flame tank strat still works as far as I remember, the terrain buffs are worth it.
"Division d'Holding" got me laughing way more than it should have
Spreading out your consumption dosage of hoi4 challenge videos is the new lifestyle trend
I dunno why, but I was NOT expecting the 40k reference just out of nowhere, caught me off guard
“not to worry, we’re still flying half a france”
How I would love to understand the game as you do Bitt3rSteel. 😄
Every hoi4 youtuber has their own thing, bittersteel has disaster saves, isorrow has A to Z, florius has focus trees and meanbean has insanity (MD)
0:23 I hate democracy
Hello señor hitler
Wasn't expecting the navy lesson at the beginning. Might do a US run sometime this week to see if I can implement some of these tips.
Today I actually learned something about naval combat.
Bittersteel your the goat other then doing wonderful content you even help us with advice!
Bitter's french accent satire is gold!
this is probably one of the less chaotic disaster saves and that is definitely a breath a fresh air!
For GBP, it depends. Going left unlocks overwhelming fire, which is a good counter, and I think overall better for div variety. Going right is great if you're poor and can only afford infantry, but have a good handle on planning, logistics, AA.
Grand Battleplan Rightside gives 25% land night attack which instantly makes it better than superior firepower even without planning buffs
This is not a disaster save, this is an apocalypse save.
Also, if you have a carrier, make sure it has planes, otherwise put it in reserve until you have enough planes and production.
"The Germans made a breakthrough so i freaked out and moved my whole army to one spot."
Just like he said, he was playing historical.
what a throwback, half a france was the first vid i watched on this channel
Another great video!
Thank you
left is broken, i use to be a superior firepower supremacist but after i got 3k soft attack and 2k breakthrough on a 24 width mountaineer division, i have seen the light
Bitter steel in a video be like oh no we have one piece of land five minutes later now the whole world is mine. Thanks for watching.
Hey now, I stopped at Europe
Bitt3rSteel speaking French is surprisingly entertaining😅
Loving the new Futurama clips!!
18:32 said it right the first time
Finally a peace deal that doesn’t cause me to tear my eyes out
Thumbs up for the broken French. That was honestly ROFL...
You went from France to D day
Bittersteel speaking french made me happy 😃
About GBP definietly right side it gives so much entranchment bonus and planning so if you are hevaily focus inf and art units i think best doctrine in the game
For a French person like me it's always a pleasure to listen french name but with anglo-Saxons accent😂😂😂
This game is not easy to learn, sometimes it's too much stuff to manage and you end up taking bad options, you don't know the important aspects of each part of the armed forces. But it's a learning process and at least he had some industry, he created a defensive line, he had a good number of guns, not so many casualties. I think he could have done this themselves just consolidating (making the units bigger and with a full bar of strength) and fixing his industry by demobilizing.
Didn't expect Bitt3rSteel to go Ultramarine.
Lore of We still have LESS THAN HALF of France...but it's the top half this time! Momentum 100
Nice video, bro ❤
As a French, love your accent ;)
Love the video, learned a lot about navel stategy that i otherwise would have never known
This is not the Hexagon, this is the Gone at start.
I'm sorry wtf, scraping the barrel with only 3% conscripted is one of the funniest things ive ever seen.
Last night my game went something like this, I went the commintern path and fort up to hold up to 1941, but the axis decided to invade Swistzerland and punched through my front before I notice. I capitulated and holding Toulon with Soviet troops
Bottom France, Free France, Maginot France, Island France, and finally: Top France
Wow, you managed to play france much longer than i ever did. Every time i try to play france i start new game, look at spirits, look at focus tree, get a spirit "true franceman" irl, give up france playthrough and go for salvador or afghanistan world conquest (salvador is arguably the easiest nation in the game)
Ah yes, glorious fighting in the glorious LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE theater.
Actually interesting alt history France. Instead of the D-Day we had a bunch of French holding out in Normandy, which then pushed back the germans.
"Mon Dieu c'est garbage " lmaooo
Your French accent is really good, I'm baffled!
He is from belgium
"Trying to go as historical as possible", that's the first mistake when the country is France in WW2.
This is actually somewhat historically accurate. General Charles de Gaulle considered to keep fighting for France either outside in London, or remain in France and move the remaining forces to Brittany. Here, France has even bigger bridgehead including the north.
Bitter steel just making fun of the french ascend😭
Now that's an unexpected turn of events
I will defend GBP as that boost to Naval Invasions is a game changer. But usually I got left in the tree for it. GBP I find works well for UK, Italy, and Japan as they need to invade so much.
the volkstrum done by french
I just realised this is a new vid after you used the equipment market
Bitt3rSteel try a tanks only challenge , dont know why just a idea that i came up with out of nowhere
The futrame clips are here to stay😁
18:30 ; it's my city !! pronounce it "OR LE HAN"
persian empire guide please (i try my self and it got horribly wrong if find a way i sent it to your for disaster save)
Ah yes the resurgence of pax Francosphere 🗿👌😎👍🇫🇷
This save was so bad I'm surprised you weren't convinced it was fake! Especially when you saw it was 41 and he had somehow only done 2 years worth of focuses 😅
That shocked me the most, it means he must've been sitting on no focus for at least 2 years!
Your french accent is very good
Love these videos
I love how France is desperately making a last stand in the mainland while their allies are just fucking around in the UK and in the colonies. Truly historical.