German candy and a mystery power device.
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- I've never seen one of these devices before, and I've not seen some of this candy before too. It's the perfect combination.
Looking at the circuitry of the device, it has a very short shunt used to monitor current, and that is coupled to the control circuitry via a capacitor so that sudden current changes are coupled to the sense circuitry. The power supply does use that big zener to cap the voltage and it's clearly been running quite hot. The capacitive dropper actually uses a 330nF capacitor, so the zener will have been dissipating quite a lot of heat, which is the exact reason the timeswitch circuitry I mentioned uses a common large resistor to do the task. The thermal fuse only protects the NTC thermistor. As far as I can see this device uses a fairly simple analogue arrangement to detect sudden surges of load current and switches the NTC thermistor in-line briefly to soften the surge.
With reference to the candy (sweets) in the UK we refer to potato fries as "chips".
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Damn I was going to send him rye whiskey from here in Canada to have him take apart some Canadian dollar store gadgets.
I am quiet sleepy and so I read the title: "german candy powered mystery device" that would have been something
Its the Willie Wonka edition.
Now I want to get a load of sour candy (for the citric/malic acid), dissolve them in water, and make a battery out of them. Thoughts like these are what stop me being productive.
Pommes a common german word for potato chips. It's short for the french pommes frites. It's not how we call potatoes in gerenal, though. That would be "Kartoffeln".
hmmm fried apples
everything is better if fried :D
I'm pretty sure the word "Pommes" comes from the french "pommes de terre", which would literally translate to "Erdapfel" and that is an old fashioned word for "Kartoffel". However, we Germans pronounce the word "Pommes" in such a way that probably makes the French cringe - because we pronounce it literally, every letter, even the s which is of course, silent in French.
waldsteiger In austrian potatoes are called "Erdäpfel" which translates to "Soil apples"
So it's fried apples in two languages
im surrounded by paradeiser and karfiol :)
We need a Clive-Ashens collab. Stuart can say how bad Poundland electronics are on the outside, and Clive can say how bad they are on the inside.
be glad they aren't diet haribo gummies
he might crack the shits if they were
as far as i know diet haribos only exist in the USA. i have never seen them here in germany
DoJo - Gaming and more I've seen and bought many for "friends" here in Australia
Fellow Aussie. Yep the diet ones are ... not fit for human consumption
No just for enemy consumption
Let's try a chip first! The wurst is yet to come.
*drum roll*
Robin Kok
Irony = the best wurst ?
Robin Kok Wurst puns are the best.
Classic!
The hilarious comments continue!
Cooked in a marzi-pan.
If "German candy and a mystery power device" isn't the greatest album title of all time then tell me what is.
Darren Nash Hahaha, epic.
Chocolate starfish and a hot-dog flavored water -- also a catchy title. :-D
Darren Nash yup. (correction Limp Bi*z*kit)
it sounds like the name plate in front of a heap of junk in the corner of an art gallery ..."this piece emphasizes the impotence of the individual, which is reduced to its consumerism, in the face of an increasingly globalized society"
Gigaguenther Are you my twin? I hate that shit...
Your german pronounciation is pretty damn good!
Being able to trill your r's helps.
Ian Tester isn't trilling your r's known as twerking in these parts?
In standard High German, r's aren't trilled at all. That's only done in some dialects.
Nope it is not "pretty damn good"
it's okay-ish from what you can hear.
My vacuum cleaner likes to strangle the lights in the house for a sec just to show who gets the largest dish of delicious electricity.
It's a dominance thing, it likes to show who's the boss
My AC does that
You know you've watched too much bigclive when he searches for a longer screwdriver and you say "the red one, Clive"
Oh look a new video from Ashens, oh wait it's Big Clive
codebeard now Clive is doing a collaboration with nerdcubed
At first i thought it was ashens.
codebeard it's got me thinking.. you know how Ashens did the celeb baby thing? a Clive-Ashens hybrid would be a sight to behold.
Clashens? Big Ive?
Whatching you have fun on video makes me happy too. I love these kind of videos when you go completely random.
Yes, playing with tattoo guns and drinking meths spring to mind!
*watching
Sounds like "Cookie Monster" when eating food :)
If you read German, like "Einschaltoptimierung für Großverbraucher" it sounds like you have a russian accent to me in German
For someone who doesn't speak German, your pronunciation of the German words was impressive!
Germany also uses the B, C and D breakers, but if you are just a tenant in a blok of flats, where the breakers are about B 10A, this device helps.
I love how he says "goldbarren" (which means "gold ingot") instead of goldbaeren :D
Yes indeed, serendipitiously being right in the sense that they are also gold gummy ingots - moulded in cornflour I believe.
WTF?? It's gummy bears with flavour of apple,pineapple and more.
In Czech Republic (Near to Germany) its common candy.
Common here in Chicago, USA, too. In fact, I've got a bag right by me. Made in Germany, even, so probably the exact same thing Clive has in this video.
404 hahahaha ikr
+TheRealColBosch no, they're probably same brand but not the same taste, the export version should have a more intense flavour and more sugary taste for USA. I believe there's about half a dozen regional flavour variations, even if they're made at the same factory, which is why people actually mail them around the world occasionally.
And it does seem that as a RUclips channel progresses, the probability of a tasting things video approaches one.
The low point in any video production is the point where the director thinks "I know what will make this better. Chewing sounds bumped up to 0db." Clive is hardly the worst offender.
They also do it with kissing. Constantly. Nobody wants to hear actors literally sucking the spit out of eachothers mouths but it doesn't stop them...
BraneBrain Hey, I never said I don't watch them. ;-)
The "in-rush" current is something we in the U.S. call "locked rotor amps", for which all motor devices have a rating. It's obviously called that because it is the same as the number of amps consumed by that same motor if its rotor were locked down, which is pretty much what's happening when a motor first starts.
"Blob of Stuff"
Bigclive you are a wordsmith..
Taking things to bits: ASMR
Taking things to bits and eating stuff: More ASMR
This channel is evolving...
"INE-shult OP-tee-MEE-ra foor GROSS-fa-BROW-ka"
That's roughly how you pronounce that.
Canada standard house panel is single phase 120/240v 200 amp (higher amp panels are available as are 3 phase services). This is because we need to wash dishes, clothes, heat water, heat house, run central vac, cook and Mig weld all while relaxing in the hot tub.
Yep, give it a big load and it will turn crusty over time 😂
Please do the breaker vid, you can do your John Ward imitation again ;)
mumble, obviously mumblemumbleVERY LOUD WORD AT SLIGHTLY HIGHER PITCH, mumble, obviously mumblemumbleVERY LOUD WORD AT SLIGHTLY HIGHER PITCH.
Do love his videos though. He's like your uncle who explains electricity to you, but slightly resentfully as if he's got better things to do.
Robin Kok he is a brit thats a posh brit lol stiff upper lip :p sorry John if you read this.
Yeah, JW has done breaker teardowns. Or is that breaking up a breaker?
Clive's imitation of JW won't be complete unless Clive does an analysis of a lift (elevator).
I have been chuckling over these JW comments. I thinks he's a repressed air traffic controller.
I do love his dryer-than-dry off the cuff comments though. I really enjoy his videos and I couldn't imagine them being presented like Dave Jones from the EEVblog.
DON"T EVER GET THE SUGAR-FREE GUMMI BEARS FROM HARIBO!!!!
Unless your bottom is bunged up, for which then they become useful... :P
Where'd you even get them? I have never seen them in Germany!
Amazon.com
You post a lot of your videos really late for us here in Burgerland.
Shpoople or early 😂
Shpoople
Ah, so you're from Burgenland, Austria? ;)
It's perfect for those of us in Burgerland that use his videos as a sleep aid.
Or are you living in Hamburg in Germany?
Ungoogleable o_O I think with Burgerland he ment the USA
I'm German and I didn't know that pommes comes from apple in French. Thanks Clive it makes all sense now!
Did you know that the Austrians call a potato literally earthapple (Erdapfel)?
The french call it pomme d'terre if I remember correctly, I also remember some people calling it pommes-frittes here in germany
Afrikaners as well, though that's basically Dutch, all of the Romance and Central European languages use it.
By no means all the romance languages use it. Spanish use 'patata' (from which we get the English word potato), Portuguese 'batata',. Romanian uses 'cartof' - which reminds me that I thought German for potato was Kartoffel - is 'pommes' just used for chips/french fries in German?
Rosscoff2000 yes, pommes is just fries in german, we call ordinarry potatoes "Kartoffeln"
Southwest German: Herdöpfel or Ärdöpfel which means either apples for the hearth or apples from the earth. Some say grom bira which menas crumb pears.
Teardowns on candy, now??
Disgusting candy at that. Let's hope it's a one-off.
He should have tested it for flammability.
Misophonia...
absolutely disgusting, right?
seriously why do people eat in videos, is that a thing or something? I'm here for the electronics, not the sound of eating -.-
It is a thing. Some people really enjoy eating sounds. I'm also not a fan. It wouldn't be so bad if it was just momentary, but the ongoing smacking noises over the dialogue is hard to ignore.
Of course the currywurst does not contain curry. It is from germany, not from france.
Germans are not that pervert.
anonymous It had german text on it and Clive said, all the things are from germany
Not that pervert? Pervert is labeling something "curry" and then not putting any curry in it. Truth in advertising. ;)
PongoXBongo It doesn't say curry on there, it says "curry" (in inverted commas). German marzipan objects always taste of marzipan and nothing else, and since you can also buy rather unpleasant looking objects such as marzipan dog droppings, I'm rather glad they only copy the shape and not the actual content... ;)
So the Currywurst does not contain curry itselfs. The sauce contains curry and some hot spices, good sauces have a slight fruity touch.
you get also a Penis from Marzipan.. doesn't taste like a penis :D :D :D
he's turning into ashens, candy and dodgy electronics
Артём Козлов But more in detail than Ashens ;)
Of course
You didn't butcher the German that badly, quite the opposite (except that it isn't "einschal-topt" but "einschalt-opt").
"Pommes" is short for "pommes frites". The french word for potato is "pomme de terre", "apple of the ground". It is the same in German: potatoes can be called "Erdäfpel", which literally means "soil-apple"/"ground-apple". Some regions also call it "Grundbirne" meaning "ground-pear".
Swedes say Ground-/Soil Pear too (and potato of course)
superdau Apple of the Earth isn't it? Terre, from Latin Terra.
Asauz
I don't speak french (just have a general idea about germanic and romanic languages and know how to use a dictionary ;) ). Yes, it is Latin in origin. It not only means "Earth", but also soil/ground.
I thought Erdäpfel is a thing only austrians say
Penta
Yeah, I don't think they are known as that all over Germany, but at least our Bavarian neighbours know what we are talking about ;)
In Pommes the "es" is not silent in german and it is a german word too.
It comes from the french for potato (pomme de something). in germany, switzerland and Austria there is still the word "Erdapfel" that still has the same meaning - soil/earth-apple.
Now fried potato chips in german would be "pommes frites" is just the germanized version of the french for fried potatoes.
And it often gets abbreviated to "Pommes" or "Fritten".
And darn it looks delicious.
Also - your german pronunciation is quite good - a lot of the long-term or even second generation migrants here are harder to understand - good job there.
ABaumstumpf Pomme de Terre if I'm remembering my French lessons correctly.
Pomme de terre, junge junge. Auch Erdapfel genannt, und nicht nur in Österreich du Hirni :)
Microage Bist du so Blöd oder tust du nur so?
ABaumstumpf
Sagt der Typ der nicht weiß, dass man Erdapfel auch in Teilen Deutschlands sagt. Traurig.
Microage Dann lern doch mal lesen und lies dir meinen ersten Kommentar - auf den du ja genatwortet hast - durch.
Aber nein, kann ja nicht sein das du einen Fehler gemacht hast - ist siiicher nicht so.... jap - idiot.
That fries are called "pommes" in germany goes back to the discovery of fries.
They were (arguably, don't tell any French people watching your video) invented in the french-speaking bit of Belgium, where they fried potatoes: pomme d'terre frites (lit. "fried apples from the earth"). During world war 1, English and American soldiers stationed in Belgium were frequently exposed to the fries and called them "french fries", mostly because they were served by french-speaking Belgium and French cooks.
In Germany however, they imported them before the war (and thus never had a real "french" connection) and dropped the "fries" part of the name, so that's how they ended up with the french word for apples as their name for fried potatoes.
There were a few comments about Norway, I figured out why it's so weird. Apparently they use an IT connected 133 V system, with houses wired up in a delta configuration, making both wires in outlets hot at 133 V. Presumably because it's supposed to be safer than a single 230 V one if you were to touch a live wire.
That would actually make for an interesting episode, how electricity is distributed around the world.
His pronunciation of Goldbären actually was pretty close! :O
i could listen to you all day, such a soothing voice. thanks for doing these videos and being you!!
At least the current version of this product is rated for 90A peak current - for 1ms...
The Relay kicks in for loads over 20VA - anything below that is handled via the PTC.
Here in Germany we have breakers with different short circuit triggers too. B is the most common type, for three phase applications C characteristic ist often used. Normal supply for one household ist three phase 230V/400V 63A.
Alexander470815 same here in Denmark, only we normally have 3x25 or 35A in, 50A if it's a large house with mainly electric heating. And most commonly we use type C breakers or fuses.
John Rasmussen that's the same standard that is used in the Netherlands
Odd. In the UK we just get a single phase brought into the house from the three phase cabling in the street.
I think that they don't want the garden and pavement to be ruined over and over. It's the same here. We in the Netherlands also have cable and a phone-line standard to most households (unless they are far a way in the country, farms etc). So if you want to use the facility it's there by default. That is the problem they face here as telephone DSL is being replaced by fiberglass. But when you have the option to have high speed cable no-one wants their garden dug up for fiber. As their doing now for newly builds it doesn't really kick off for old build neighborhoods.
bigclivedotcom In most of Europe we get all 3 fases in from the grid. Normal appliances like lighting, and anything that comes with a plug, runs on 230V live and neutral like in the UK. Only things like cooking stoves or elektric waterheaters runs 2- or 3-fased 400V. And off course larger motors like for instance larger heatpumps.
30 years back, allso washingmashines and tumbler dryers ran on 3-fased power.
im really suprised by the way you pronounced those german terms.
It did still sound like a drunk scottish grandpa trying to speak, but definitely a lot better than other non-germans
Edibles and Electronics. Good combo. :-)
I enjoyed the discussion on the types of circuit breaker ratings (A, B, C, D) used in the U K. At my home in the U S, I have 300 Amp, 240 volt, single phase service. Not aware if the US has an equivalent breaker trip rating to the UK system.
You said B type breakers was the most common breaker in the UK, do you know why you use the B type? Here in Denmark the most common breaker in residential houses is the type C. C13 or C10 will be used for single phase outlets (I dont know how many outlets per breaker) and C16 for three phase outlets like the kitchen stove.
Hekatombe
C characteristic is used for machines that require a higher starting current (so industrial use). But it doesn't really matter much.
Usually B characteristic breakers also are a bit cheaper.
Most socket circuits in the UK are 20A or 32A so the fast trip points aren't actually all that different from what you have.
'Pomme' is 'Apple' in French and 'Pomme de Terre' in French is 'Apple of the ground' or Potato.
And further to that the French called chips "pommes de terre frites" or "pommes frites" for short. Then the Germans borrowed that phrase and shortened it to "pommes". My cousin pronounces it "pommies".
Potato in French is "Pomme de terre", which translate to "soil apple".
Ground apple?
Swedish language have to words for Potato - Potato and Soil Pear :)
In German, its Kartoffel, which seems to be from the Italian for Truffle - makes sense. And of course, Road Apples are something else entirely.
Hows about a how to make video on those booze filled candies? I know you know how to do it BcDc, and if not, wouldn't it be worth a look?
i want to be honest with you. Your german is like really good. I never heard someone who is usually speaking englisch, speaking german that well!
Especially the umlauts a lot of native English speakers usually spruggle with. bigclive has a lot of talents. :o)
He won't pass as a masterspy though ;P
Why did I think those packets with German condoms........
oh dear...
oh i thought....gummy fuhrers
Man, 32 A for the whole house? That's crap. Even your 100A 240V is pretty low by US standards. While most people are aware that we use 120V in the US, the actual breaker box (and some appliances) are fed by 240V single-phase with a center-tapped neutral (which is how we get 120V). Usually the main breaker is rated for 200A (keep in mind, 200A at 240V) although older houses sometimes have 100A or 125A. If you need more power than that then you can get (in most areas even for homes) 120Y208V 3-phase or delta-high-leg (which is three-phase in the delta configuration, 240V between each phase, with one phase having a center-tap for the neutral, giving you 120V between neutral and two of the legs and 208V between neutral and the high leg.) Delta-high-leg is nice because you can use both commercial and home appliances and motors. Most businesses use 120Y208V, so there's lots of stuff for it, and most homes use 240V single-phase, so there's lots of stuff for that. And if you need three-phase for something, you can usually get it wired for 240V 3-phase instead of 208V three-phase pretty easily, and many things will work on either voltage.
good morning Clive
Here in Canada we have split 115v in at 100A, 115V-0-115V to make a total of 200A service.
myfunrandomvids That's the standard in the USA as well. The US and Canada (I don't know about Mexico) have the same basic electrical standards. The specific safety standards may vary some depending on the country (even by state/province) but the basics, voltage, amperage, hertz, outlet types, etc. are the same.
As our standards are the same linemen from both sides of the border can and do help each other out after a natural disaster or other emergency damages the power grid. I remember seeing trucks and men from Hydro Quebec rolling into town after Hurricane Ivan (2004) heavily damaged the part of Florida I lived in. I knew linemen from across the country come and help after a disaster strikes somewhere but I didn't know linemen from Canada came too sometimes.
I don't know but I would be surprised if the countries in the EU didn't have some sort of agreement where linemen cross the borders to help after a disaster.
you should try "ahoi-Brause" with vodka ;) greets from Germany...
does the NTC get physically hot? like would it burn nearby electronics if it was to be hot glued onto stuff?
It does get hot as part of its function. It shouldn't be glued to anything as that would affect its operation. It's best operated in free air, and when I've used them to take the bang out of big transformers I've mounted them in ceramic terminal block as a precaution.
bigclivedotcom which part of Scotland are you from? I'm from the closest county in England to Northumberland
james birdsall I've spent most of my life in Glasgow. Born in East Kilbride.
In a lot of your videos you say 240 volt. As far as I know 220V (European continent) and 240V (UK) were both replaced by 230V? At least, in theory ;-) Have you actually measured the current in your home?
Not to be picky (yeahh right), but 240V has nothing to do with current :-)
I believe Clive mentioned some time he actaually have 240V in his house.
Actual measured voltage usually around 240 to 245V depending on neighbourhood load.
I was measuring Hz with my fluke meter just the other day and it ranged from 49.8 to 50.5 out of the socket :)
Damnit Clive. Now I want chocolate...
...Isn't Kartoffel potato in German though?
Yes.
shurdi3 Yup
Yep, Kartoffel is potato in german, but for french fries germans say "Pommes frites" (pronounced "pom frit")
At least that's what I remember from my german class ahah
Right, but "Freedom Fries" are still called Pommes frites in germany, because they come from belgium (or france - they still argue) and the germans took their name with the dish.
I'm betting the hot glue over the screw is just an idiot lockout.
There was a layer of green tinted screw-lock over all the screws.
Maybe it's supposed to insulate the screw against something jumping from the current sensing jumper there.
Try the Waldmeister drink powder next time please.
Here in the US homes are wired 120/240 2 phase 200 amp (100 amp per phase) and the standard breaker is 15/20 amp even the 220 breaker for stoves and water heater are 20 amp breaker. I have always wondered why over there you went with 220/400 or 440 volt. dosent seem the need to be so high or is there a reason for that?
230/400V is 230V to ground and 400V between phases. Higher voltage means that you can get the same amount of power with thinner wiring. 3-phase is also great as soon as you have electric motors requiring some power since you have a much less complicated motor with no need for any capacitor or similar.
Here in Belgium we use type C brakers.
pommes de terre in french is apples of the earth - that is potatoes. Pommes in German is french fries but potatoes is Kartoffel - which is also the word used in Danish (Kartofler) - the Danish word for french fries is pomfritter - french fries in french: frites (de pommes de terre), so yeah.
Funny thing in German regional dialects:
die Kartoffel is even called Erdapfel (earth-apple), which would hint the french pommes-de-terre.
But the "Pommes" derrives from Pommes Frites (which is a French-Belgian(?!) word for french fries/chips). Pommes Fried would be Fried Potatoe Fries....
hey clive just wondering am new to soldering i just want to know what
type of setup do you use because when i watch you when you solider its
flawless :-0 i love it :-)
Thank You Can't wait to dig in soldiering making my own small circuit boards :-)
German for potato is "Kartoffel".
Marzipan ! Why is there no vomit emoji ?!
Sorry, I don't like eating sounds
Are you going to do anything more with the device? The heroic task of making acomplete schematic? Or perhaps more realistically, just replacing the ntc and testing its function?
The device is fully functional. I send it to him.
The device is about 10 years old and was used (abused) by having an old washing maschine and a tumbledryer plugged in. both devices are running at the same time so the maximum power, if both heaters are fully on, maybe 4kw, so i think it survived pretty well.
It actually looks pretty modern inside for a 10 year old device. The sootiness inside was because the large zener has been running quite hot as standard.
BTW u can use the AHOI powder in very different ways, like put it directly on ur tongue and then flush with a shot of vodka. if u do it pls share the experince.
as some one mentioned in the comments, the device originates from 1997... with an older version from 1986.
I've been using this very device for many years to limit the starting current of a simple microwave oven. It works exactly as you describe. On low load, the load would run through the NTC all the time. On high load, the NTC is bypassed by the relay after ~2 seconds. It never failed me in ~10 years. My current microwave oven doesn't need it, though.
I have to give this video an ashens/10.
Chips? You mean FREEDOM FRIES! 'MERICA! ::Grunts and fires duel M16's into the air while an american flag cape flaps in the wind, next to a bald eagle drinking a budweiser wearing a trucker hat with aviators chilling in a lawn chair::
Great and interesting explanation of breakers Clive, cheers! It went some way to explain to me why AvE occasionally pops his 120V breakers with his big saws etc.
My respects! You did, by far, not fuck the pronounciation of "Einschaltoptimierung für Grossverbraucher" up as much as you did when reading out the edibles! :)
This device seems to have been released in 1997: www.elv.de/Einschaltoptimierung-f%C3%BCr-Gro%C3%9Fverbraucher-bis-4000-VA/x.aspx/cid_726/detail_33746 . ELV is well known here to also provide schematics and DIY kits for lots of their devices. But this one seems to be only available completely assembled.
channelling ashens again
Very nice to get free gifts. Many years ago I used to speak with an Italian chap on my ham radio, he sent me a qsl card with loads of assorted empty sweet wrappers and used train and bus tickets and used postage stamps. Very nice I thought, until he told me he collected foreign banknotes and needed an English £20 to go with his collection.
It sounds really funny when you talk in the german language. i nearly pee my pants.
The "Ahoi-Brause" is even better if you put it directly in your mouth instead of water :D ... I loved these as a kid ... And even today ;)
I'm not aware of different "types" of breakers in the U.S. As far as I know, all "normal" breakers are designed to tolerate spike loads up to some X level temporarily, and remain closed during those periods. If the spike load remains for longer than Y time, then the breaker will trip open. Don't know what the X and Y values are. I do know that you will see the effect of this in house-wide voltage sags while it's happening. Also, in the U.S., because our voltage is half what it is in the U.K. (120V), our typical maximum residential panel ratings are 200A rather than the UK's 100A, as you mention in your video.
I have one of these from ELV in use (ESB54). Since I don't want all my stuff to draw standby power all the time I connected a lot of it to a power extension with switch. However the amount of switching power supplies sometimes tripped a B16 fuse the moment I flipped the switch. That thing is very handy. It works like that: Whenever the power usage is less than 20VA the current flows through the NTC. One the power rises above 20VA the relay kicks in, but with a delay of about 0.4 seconds. If power consumption stays over 20VA it won't help with another surge and turn the relay off since that would mean to drop the voltage i.e. interfer with the supply of the other devices connected to its output. Further information is here, but all in german. files.elv.com/Assets/Produkte/10/1057/105772/Downloads/105772_ESB54-2_um.pdf
In the Netherlands most have 3 fase ~230v into their home. But only one is connected and fused at 35 amps most of the time. Then every group is fused at 16 amps. Although like me you can get all 3 fases connected 3x25 amps. And the groups after that again fused at 16 amps normally. Of course for certain applications it may be different.
Wait? You only have single phase in the UK?
In Sweden Threee Phase is standard...
You actually have three phase in your house? We use three phase for electricity generation and transmission, but the phases get split out and shared into houses so each house only gets one.
Each house gets three phases in, it is split in the house.
Electric stoves/cookers, ovens, and other appliances use three phases here.
Gego/XAREN ゲゴザレン Same here in Germany
Transmission is 3-phase, and this is supplied to commercial premises and farms. Household supplies are one of these three phases.
There isn't enough load to justify three phase in a house. What do you have in Swedish households that needs three phase?
We in Austria also have 3 phase to the house. In fact, I think most countries in europe have. It's so you can split the load, for example ground floor gets 1, first gets another and often the ktichen has it's own + often the other phases as well to power stove or so from 2 (or even all 3, not shure) phases.
I saw the currywurst and thought "That looks a bit stale", thought it was a real one... :P
Intriguing device, I thought it was going to be one of them power factor correction things which don't work...
afaik my house has a main fuse rated 25 A (hidden behind a cover with a seal) and 4 x 16 A fuses for the groups that I can replace. The flat is built in the 70s. It all sounds alot less than you say is common in the world in houses.
I once built some soft-start units for some 2KW profile spotlights. Since they were being used in static displays there was no dimmer pack being used that would have otherwise limited the inrush current to the rather expensive light bulbs.
So I got some cheap fan heaters and configured them so the element was in series with the lamp initially and a mains relay was wired up across the lamp output too so as the lamp warmed up and the voltage across it rose the relay would trigger thus bypassing the heater element. This all happened in about 200 milliseconds or so.
I seem to remember I had to tap the supply for the relay somewhere near the middle of the heater element to give it enough latch in voltage as otherwise it just sat there with the spotlight & heater receiving half power each.
to use wielder in uk i had to uprate the breaker, when landlord housing associations renewed the consumer unit i had to tell them to upgrade the garage breaker as they used a 15b , after a wait they put in a 20b , after i was convinced they will not be looking at it for a while i put in a 40c , how would the mystery german device cope with a welder attached.
I went to Berlin earlier this year and did not have a (real) Currywurst simply because I didn't know what it was. I regret this decision.
Your German wasn't that bad at all.
And since this is about Germany in some way:
1. What do you think about the Schuko Plug System in comparison to the British Plugs?
2. Over here the B-Type Breakers are also the Standard.
3. As far as Amperage is concerned I'm not quite sure if the 'normal' thingy now is 10, 13 or 16A...
There was a change in regulation recently that didn't allow 16A for 1,5mm² cables in some cases.
And last but not least:
Many houses over here have a quite beefy cable coming in!
3 Phases are pretty much standard, and up to 63A is possible...
Just for a normal House.
As for the NTC Bypass Relais:
That's also something done in some high efficiency ATX Computer Power Supplys.
Pc or ntc I believe are used in speaker driver filters namely bose 802 filter circuit inside cabinets or use a 12v lamp.great video
If you want to more about this thing, here's the original publication (paywall): www.elv.de/Einschaltoptimierung-f%C3%BCr-Gro%C3%9Fverbraucher-bis-4000-VA/x.aspx/cid_726/detail_33746
14:27 "I should take a breaker apart one day". Clive, you've already beaten yourself to it. I'm sure you've already taken one apart, I remember you explaining the 2 different mechanisms for tripping.
EDIT: Oops, you've explained how it works @ ruclips.net/video/XTUUijDclWk/видео.html but you don't seem to have actually taken one apart (even though I'm STILL sure that you have, but RUclips search says otherwise!)
You don´t have to put the "Brausepulver" in water necessarily, if you feel adventurous you can eat it out of the bag :-)
Still available with new design:
www.elv.de/elv-230v-einschaltstrombegrenzer-esb-54-1.html
For 10 Euro less for self assembly (as a lot of the devices of this company):
www.elv.de/einschaltstrombegrenzung-esb-54-komplettbausatz-1.html
Hello from ex Yugoslavia!
We have a fix for those machines tripping your super modern hi-tech resettable fuses... A good old "one time use" fuse with wire inside, which are widely used here.
They are "technically" ment for one time use...but for most people it is too expensive/nuissance buying new, so they just replace the blown wire with approximately (yeah right..."approximately" ) same cross section of thin copper wires-strains from like a regular mains cable. Is it dangerous? Perhaps, depends on mentioned approximation, but who cares, better than a nail stuck in ;-)
And ground current fault detecting circuit tripping, or something...WHAT the hack is that, here there are usually used 2 (TWO!) wires coming to socket, and ground is connected to neutral. Problem solved.
Sounds like the ideal thing for my mates compressor, it kicks the breaker when stone cold, it spikes really bad.
You are right, potatoes are called patates or pommes de terre. It reminds me of a dish we have in Québec, we call Poutine.
If you expect a curry dip in a marzipan setup to taste like curry, you should expect the sausage to taste like sausage and the chips salty and chips like. Then you would be cheaper off by buying a Currywurst mit Pommes from the beginning, and maybe mix in some bitter almond oil, to make it taste like marzipan.
A question beside: Are you British? ;)
Talking about marzipan, unfortunately often the colored and modeled marzipan figures are made from a qualitative inferior marzipan. Even the cheapest marzipan breads often taste much better, because they are covered with chocolate, which prevents them drying out.
A variation of them is marzipan bread with a nougat filling, which makes it similar in taste like Mozartkugeln (Mozart balls?). And some innovations are filled with fruits, which have rested for a long time in rum, or with pineapple paste, Cognac and other stuff. Which is probably technically enough to try a tear down and consuming analysis. :)
As a German, I can tell you that "Pommes" in German is short for "Pommes Frites" (read: "Pomm Fritz"). "Pommes", however, is pronounced like "Pomm-S" with the S on the end.
It's really funny when you spell our lovely German words so wrong! Can you make more vids of this kind? Or try to make a episode all the way on Gerlish? (30% German + 70% English)
Would be very, very, very funny! :D
this device from ELV electronics is meant for heavy toroidal transformer home HiFi amplificators to keep the circuit breakers (mostly B16 type) from killing the living room or where ever you decide to use these amps.
in little flats you get 9 or 12 circuit breakers in B16 characteristic (splitted on 3 phases - mainfused 3x 35A) so no worry about energy in general but using "B types" for every circuit.
for the average hifi listener its way easier to put this plug between the amp and socket instead of call the electrican to change the breaker to "C type".
in America we have 100amp trailer house... yes 1/3rd our nation lives in poverty in glued together homes highly flammable homes. the 2nd 200amp is home use input at 220v split to 2 roughly or 110v socket which are breakers @ 120v each main systems are 120v AC but that's after the breaker by wiring both mains we get 244v ish but ground is direct and only used in appliance applications. our large load are rated 110v and are half input from mains with a separate breaker that separates ground from the primary. sorry if it doesn't make sense but it's this way so that there is always a ground at higher voltages