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    Nahmanides
    "The Disputation of Barcelona (1263)"
    Translated by Cecil Roth, Oxford University
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    0:00 The Fifth and Sixth Crusades
    3:25 Mongols and Mamluks
    5:17 Nahmanides
    8:35 The Fall of Acre

Комментарии • 72

  • @colliwer
    @colliwer 3 года назад +124

    I knew it was coming because of the time period but the "We need to acknowledge that Persia no longer exists" absolutely *gutted* me.

    • @aliyaser7698
      @aliyaser7698 2 года назад

      The majority of the original Jews are in Iran

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 3 года назад +62

    “At this point we need to acknowledge Persia no longer exists”
    Me, a fan of Persia 😔😔😔

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. 3 года назад +51

    The bucket reference made me smile and the ending made me excited. 😀

    • @pas-giaw6055
      @pas-giaw6055 Год назад +5

      "THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE AN ARTESIAN WELL!"

  • @scharb
    @scharb 2 года назад +15

    "Frederick II was in a perfect position to charm himself back into the Pope's good graces by retaking Jerusalem himself in 1229."
    (...)
    "For retaking the holy city, Pope Gregory excommunicated Frederick a second time and declared him the Antichrist."

    • @scharb
      @scharb 2 года назад +3

      Welp
      That didn’t work

  • @koalasandwich567
    @koalasandwich567 Год назад +10

    I feel like the Crusades are like a movie franchise that keeps on trying to outdo the first one that although successful does have some major problems, and they keep getting worse with every installment.

  • @xberman
    @xberman 3 года назад +16

    These episodes are so well done! Thank you. I was discussing this topic the other day and I pieced together some things I heard from the Muslim perspective of the crusades. Baibars, the Mamluk commander, realized that as long as the coastal cities of the Israeli/Palestinian coast were lucrative, crusaders would always try to establish a foothold for their attacks, so his policy was to raze the coastal cities and destroy the fortresses. That utter destruction and sudden population decline in the region is one of the reasons that made it so hard for Jews to establish themselves in large communities in the Holy Land...

  • @SonOfThunder88
    @SonOfThunder88 2 года назад +4

    How this channel has no larger audience is beyond me... He deserves 1M subscriptions.

  • @royharel2147
    @royharel2147 3 года назад +7

    The way you tell this history in the form of a story is absolutly incredible and interesting. Great work!

  • @Kolslov
    @Kolslov 3 года назад +1

    Wonderful and informative video as usual

  • @flastable9842
    @flastable9842 3 года назад +2

    Your videos are wonderful! 🤗

  • @dolevlitvin8904
    @dolevlitvin8904 3 года назад +5

    Is this in collaboration with Hikma history?
    You are so good and very much needed! Love your stuff!

  • @danielpoole2451
    @danielpoole2451 2 года назад

    THank you for mentioning the bucket!!!!

  • @maulanakarman8955
    @maulanakarman8955 3 года назад +1

    You deserve more views, Sam Aronow

  • @CivilWarWeekByWeek
    @CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 года назад +8

    How many crusades does it take to retake the holy land?

  • @Solon1581
    @Solon1581 3 года назад +7

    2:47 MY EYES! This is is too much border gore for me to handle.

  • @matthewbrotman2907
    @matthewbrotman2907 3 года назад +30

    King Louis IX was canonized, and is the “Saint Louis” for whom the large American city is named.
    Barcelona has a “Calle Diputacio” commemorating the event.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +13

      And Oceanside, California, formerly San Luis Rey.

    • @zacharycurrie3708
      @zacharycurrie3708 3 года назад +7

      Louis also underwent another funny canonization. During the French colonization of North Africa in the 19th century, legends turned up around Carthage to the effect that, instead of dying there, Louis had actually converted to Islam and become the marabout known as Sidi Bou Saïd.

    • @felixbabuf5726
      @felixbabuf5726 2 года назад +2

      @@SamAronow Oh THAT's the Louis San Luis Rey is named after! I'd just assumed that since it was dedicated in 1798, it was named after Louis XVI as a middle finger to the French Republic.
      Hello from Oceanside, btw!

  • @furrywarriors
    @furrywarriors 3 года назад +3

    ngl, I expected klezmer music when you panned over to Poland

  • @user-gr9fq9gt9w
    @user-gr9fq9gt9w 3 года назад +31

    2:53
    Haha! The bucket war!
    ruclips.net/video/Q0dJNY32e2g/видео.html
    I couldn't believe you are able to draw this atrocious map...

  • @robinminden601
    @robinminden601 3 года назад

    How can u just have 5700 abbos, it deserves way more

  • @MaximilianOOO491
    @MaximilianOOO491 Год назад

    Such tremendous sadness… our past directly impacts our present and our future but it is so terribly sad to hear all of the calamities that have happened.

  • @formulaone07
    @formulaone07 3 года назад +8

    You mentioned that the Europe-based Jews didn't move to Jerusalem after the Crusaders were defeated. What was the "immigration policy" of the ruling Mamelukes and latter Ottomans? Could Jews have moved without limit to the Land during the 13th -19th centuries without getting turned away by the ruling empire? (From what I read about the 1492 Spanish expulsion, Jews were welcomed into some parts of the Ottoman Empire but not to Eretz Yisrael.)

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +15

      That was a development of the 14th century; Jews were still allowed to settle in Mamluk lands, but economic decline and increased discrimination/violence made it unappealing. I'll be sure to come back to this when we get to the Ottoman conquest.

  • @shacharraz9129
    @shacharraz9129 3 года назад +7

    is it bad that i only associate the Ramban with HaYehudim Baim?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +4

      Maybe? One of my greatest frustrations living in Israel is that, not having grown up here, I don't know what people are taught in school.

  • @Yitzhak480
    @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

    great episode! recap video next week?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +5

      Nah, I decided a while back to go ahead with the rest of the unit because the next video will be a crossover.

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow so from now until rabbi Yosef Karo and the Ariza"l?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +3

      @@Yitzhak480 They're actually the first episode of the Early Modern unit, but yeah, it'll be a long recap.

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow good luck!

  • @user-yi4oo4iv3b
    @user-yi4oo4iv3b 3 года назад +4

    סרטון מעולה כרגיל.
    אך יש לי קצת בעיה עם הסוף. אתה מציג את הרמב״ם במישהו שלא עודד עלייה לארץ ישראל כאשר למעשה הוא אמר בכמה מקומות שזאת מצווה גדולה ליהודי לגור אפילו העיר נוכרית בארץ מאשר בעיר יהודית בגולה.
    או שאתה טוען שלא היה ניסיון לעלייה המונית, כאשר למעשה כן היה ניסיון כזה על ידי המהר"ם מרוטנבורג שסוכל על ידי קיסר האימפריה הרומית הקדושה

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +6

      תודה! אחזור לזה בסרטון הסיכום.

  • @scottwarthin1528
    @scottwarthin1528 3 года назад +4

    Brought the nuance to the next level! The intricacies and nuances of this video is what is really needed to effectively bring across the twists & turns of the times, the political chaos (behold those maps!) of the medieval Mediterranean and all in the manner of a first rate scholar of history. The music adds the right vim and verve of drama, enticing the audience to become emotionally invested. Especially when considering this and other recent Sam Aronow videos: history and religion teachers take note in considering such a video series as part of the "required reading" of any good curriculum [especially for a 'distance learning' class].

  • @unescoworldheritagesite7508
    @unescoworldheritagesite7508 3 года назад +11

    Let's go eastern Ashkenazi time💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @trevor1667
    @trevor1667 Год назад

    Oh boy!

  • @borkerman
    @borkerman Год назад

    2:52 wasn't expecting an Oversimplified reference

  • @sfogbobi387
    @sfogbobi387 3 года назад +1

    8:29 yeaaah about that..😬

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +8

      In the modern era, outside the walls still counts as part of the city.

  • @Ponkytwo
    @Ponkytwo 2 года назад

    Great series. Any chance of dropping the music background. It's unnecessary - the facts are enthralling. And it's distracting. Why have it!?

  • @Vanalovan
    @Vanalovan 3 года назад

    Is there going to be an episode about Sephardic Jews in the Ottoman Empire? I remember reading in college how after the expulsion from Spain a number of wealthy Sephardic Jews sponsored communities, businesses and religious institutions in Israel/Palestine.

  • @golgarisoul
    @golgarisoul 3 года назад +2

    I always wondered why the Mongols didn't take over Egypt aswell. And now I know. In a Jewish history series lol

  • @parrismd
    @parrismd 2 года назад

    I thought the Mongols had the cannons at Ain Jalut?

  • @pedroledoux9779
    @pedroledoux9779 3 года назад

    Preste John Washington the King of Etiópia. The Portuguese looked for him during maritime expansion.

  • @DemonKingOFFICIAL
    @DemonKingOFFICIAL 2 года назад

    11:37 how did it collapse into the sea exactly?

  • @formulaone07
    @formulaone07 3 года назад +2

    ​ @Sam Aronow Can you expand upon when exactly diaspora rabbis defacto dropped the idea of re-establishing Zion until the Messiah arrives? You mentioned the Rambam in this video. Was he the first or final authority on the matter? I recall that it was as late as the 6th century when some Jews were still trying to rebuild the Temple right before the Muslims arrived. Another idea was that rabbinic Judaism was so traumatized by the Roman thrashings of the first and second century Jewish rebellions that they adopted a sort of Jewish "quietism", but that couldn't have been a lesson derived in the first few centuries after the losses, otherwise no one would have tried again up until the 6th century.

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +5

      The Rambam was very much of the opinion that making aliyah was a mitzvah; as pointed out by another commenter (in Hebrew), he stated that it was better as a Jew to live surrounded by gentiles in the Land of Israel than surrounded by Jews in diaspora. But at a certain point, the idea of the land as the center of Jewish culture in the presence was no longer realistic and, as you say, a certain quietism evolved- the messiah would take care of it and anything that happened before that was part of God's plan.
      The Rambam's influence on conversos returning to Judaism would end up contributing greatly to the rise of secularism and start to eat away at that quietist orthodoxy, in contrast to the contemporaneous massacres and messianic mania seizing Eastern Europe, but I am not remotely ready to delve into the 17th century yet.

    • @formulaone07
      @formulaone07 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow Thank you for the explanation. Looking forward to learning more!

  • @H.hipster
    @H.hipster 2 года назад +1

    Oh man ... Persia no longer exists??

  • @Rudster14
    @Rudster14 2 года назад +1

    So interesting! I always wondered why Jews didn't simply return to the land of Israel

  • @drag0nwolf
    @drag0nwolf 2 года назад +1

    You mentioned the Dome of the Rock in this video. So between the uncompleted third temple and the crusades when did the Muslims claim the Temple Mount and the rock as their own and build a mosque?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/UI9RIzNe-tM/видео.html

    • @drag0nwolf
      @drag0nwolf 2 года назад

      @@SamAronow Just another big question... Why wasn't there any mass migration of Jews to India, China and the far east despite Jews having trade settlements here considering the persecution in Europe and Arab countries?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  2 года назад

      Well, it's not as if India was the *only* place that was safe/prosperous for Jews at any given time. Besides, one doesn't need to permanently live in a place to enjoy the benefits of trade with that place. Those places were far away, and it took a great effort in the age of sail to move an entire community.

  • @Yitzhak480
    @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

    i know it's a weird question but i wanted to ask: was there a yeshiva in Jerusalem between Raban-Jhon ben Zacai's yeshiva and the Ramban's yeshiva?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад

      Probably between the original Islamic conquest and the First Crusade.

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow but not of a important raby we know about?

    • @Yitzhak480
      @Yitzhak480 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow Thank you!

    • @maulanakarman8955
      @maulanakarman8955 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow Hi

    • @maulanakarman8955
      @maulanakarman8955 3 года назад

      @@SamAronow is hades of Hebrew origin called Horon

  • @odokokan
    @odokokan 2 года назад

    I wouldn't concluded that like that .during the Mamluk period 1265-15176 there were significant movements of Jews to the land of Israel despite the terrible condition of the land and the legal limitation on jews on the roads ,as we see a big Ashkenazi community in Jerusalem right before the 16 century .we can also count the jews that came from Poland( Binshtok)and the many that came from France in the 14 century .

  • @Mark761966
    @Mark761966 2 года назад

    Are you sure the Egyptians and Crusaders used cannons against the Mongols in the mid 13th century? I mean, are you REALLY, REALLY sure?

  • @nathanielzarny1176
    @nathanielzarny1176 3 года назад

    Kinda crazy just how incompetent the crusaders were

    • @scottwarthin1528
      @scottwarthin1528 3 года назад

      Catholicism at its most hypocritical low point. I'm pretty sure a certain first century, peace and love preaching, rabbi would have not approved. I agree: bunch of religious fanatics. A cautionary tale in that it should be remembered so as to not be repeated. To that end I'm glad that Sam does these videos and I'm dismayed that they aren't "required reading" for students.

    • @scottwarthin1528
      @scottwarthin1528 3 года назад

      @@chimera9818 Catholicism at its most hypocritical low point. I'm pretty sure a certain first century, peace and love preaching, rabbi would have not approved. I agree: bunch of religious fanatics. A cautionary tale in that it should be remembered so as to not be repeated. To that end I'm glad that Sam does these videos and I'm dismayed that they aren't "required reading" for students.

  • @mlovecraftr
    @mlovecraftr 3 года назад

    So, what happened to the Jews in Persia and Mesopotamia when the Mongols conquered those regions?

    • @SamAronow
      @SamAronow  3 года назад +1

      You can find out when I cover that very topic later this summer!

  • @GingerJoberton
    @GingerJoberton 2 года назад

    Anybody else in the "jewish history" area of RUclips?
    I like it. I might stay here.