So What If Caleb Williams Isn't A "Generational" Prospect?

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  • @MisterVicky9
    @MisterVicky9 5 месяцев назад +552

    After the first minute or so. I couldn't agree with your message any more than i already do. Seems like every year we get a great QB prospect, he just gets the unfair label of generational. Feels like a huge downside of nfl draft Twitter is the sensationalism that comes with it

    • @dreamer5687
      @dreamer5687 5 месяцев назад +1

      Idk if this is just a “twitter” thing RUclips Antalya all feed into this

    • @xfranchize
      @xfranchize 5 месяцев назад +1

      Only he said he was not generational than lists all the reasons he is so I’m more confused. 😂

    • @nathancarroll7347
      @nathancarroll7347 5 месяцев назад +10

      Generational QBs are once or twice a decade. In my life, it’s Manning, Luck and Lawrence. That’s it. No one else was truly generational.

    • @xfranchize
      @xfranchize 5 месяцев назад +10

      @@nathancarroll7347Lawrence Trevor is garbage. Generational Brees manning Brady all offered something different and set a standard. Lamar Vick same thing what do you call it? Trevor Lawrence is a mediocre qb.

    • @xfranchize
      @xfranchize 5 месяцев назад +1

      He is clearly generational he has few weaknesses. Arm talent 1% pocket footwork which is what presence is in the 1%. Athletic ability top 10% but not generational then what is?

  • @grim-_-
    @grim-_- 5 месяцев назад +56

    Thank you for pointing out the fact that Caleb changed his game up alot after that ND game. Thousands of people completely overlooked that part of the 2nd half of his season because they dont watch the game in the first place, they only see clips on twitter.

  • @CarlosRamirez-hr2bn
    @CarlosRamirez-hr2bn 5 месяцев назад +223

    I think there’s a whole lotta context left out in the way Caleb played by only observing the offense. He HAD to always look for the big play with the way Southern Cal’s defense was historically terrible. Caleb scored 40+ points on average only to see every lead slip through his fingers and it’s genuinely wild to me that that gets overlooked. My heart was shattered countless times watching him NEEDING to play damn near perfect or they would lose. His sophomore season he was quite literally Superman leading that team to 11-3 and I didn’t think it could be any worse than that until watching them this season. Great vid Marcus I’ll be looking forward to the next one dude!

    • @ryanrzjr
      @ryanrzjr 5 месяцев назад +32

      that doesnt really make sense to me. If you're defense is doing poorly, you AVOID big plays, and play conservatively to allow for both your defense to rest and to control clock management. It's not like they score the longer you take to score.

    • @austin.hook-em
      @austin.hook-em 5 месяцев назад +9

      Live by the Lincoln Riley offense, die by the (sheer lack of) Lincoln Riley defense of any kind. It never fails!
      The folks over at Oklahoma learned this lesson the hard way. As a Texas fan, it always had me dying of laughter no matter what happend during Red River Shootout (seeing as we hired a pair of awful also-ran HCs).

    • @bherbo3943
      @bherbo3943 5 месяцев назад +6

      This is a damn lie. There were times when the offense was up multiple scores and were still big play hunting which opened the door for the opposing team to comeback later in games. USC didn't play ND every week lol

    • @ThatFranchiseGuy
      @ThatFranchiseGuy  5 месяцев назад +27

      Have this very note in my full writeup on him! totally agree

    • @CarlosRamirez-hr2bn
      @CarlosRamirez-hr2bn 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@ryanrzjr in theory yes absolutely, when you’re able to play complimentary football but when you’re 123rd in penalties and constantly playing behind the sticks how is that conducive to being able to play chew clock. All I’m saying is there’s more context than just “why was it this instead of that” which could be said for any prospect.

  • @shadowsniper9542
    @shadowsniper9542 5 месяцев назад +212

    Trevor Lawrence proved that no prospect is truly unsinkable once they hit the pros, and I've always considered the "generational" talent moniker to be misleading in any sport. No prospect can truly succeed anywhere they go and no matter what coaching they receive, and it's unfair to treat them like that's the expectation.

    • @drewwilson6639
      @drewwilson6639 5 месяцев назад +20

      Trevor's best years are still ahead of him. He just turned 24 years old

    • @zackhurwitz9441
      @zackhurwitz9441 5 месяцев назад +37

      ​@@drewwilson6639People said the same thing about Winston, Mariota, Carr etc. Lawrence has been one of the most overrated QBs since he got to the league.

    • @jerrodrabenbauer5896
      @jerrodrabenbauer5896 5 месяцев назад +34

      TLaw still kinda looks good though? Last year was great and it’s only his 3rd season

    • @j.r.3945
      @j.r.3945 5 месяцев назад +13

      @@jerrodrabenbauer5896last year wasn’t “great” it was up and down but pretty good overall there is a lotttt to clean up still though

    • @alod247
      @alod247 5 месяцев назад +31

      There are prospects who do transcend schemes and coaching. Those are the truly generational players. Those are the guys Cam Newton was talking about when everyone jumped down his throat. They are rare and actually “generational” tho. Not in every draft class or two like the media pumps up.

  • @jaredcurrie5338
    @jaredcurrie5338 5 месяцев назад +49

    IT’S DRAFT SZN! Nothing eases the passing of the majority of season like prospects on prospects

    • @nautgamingnautgaming9949
      @nautgamingnautgaming9949 5 месяцев назад

      Not for me lol
      We are going for the top
      First playoff game TAKE BACK MY DIVISION
      2nd game get revenge on the team that eliminates me EVERY DAM YEAR
      Love is HIM

    • @densonjc
      @densonjc 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@nautgamingnautgaming9949bro packers are not getting past the first round… they barely beat the bears

    • @DeVine22305076
      @DeVine22305076 3 месяца назад

      @@densonjc well that was wrong

  • @thunderbear82
    @thunderbear82 5 месяцев назад +142

    This year has proven it doesn't matter who the QB is as much as matters the OL, Coach, and playmakers surrounding the QB. Having said that the QB's skillset, reaction time, and aggression makes it easier for some QB's to fit into more systems and be better in specific systems.

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 5 месяцев назад +34

      What? Who won the last 15 Super Bowls? Mahomes, Stafford, Brady, Mahomes, Brady, Nick Foles, Brady, Manning, Brady, Russ, Flacco, Eli, Rodgers, Brees, Big Ben. That's 13/15 straight up elite QBs, and Foles and Flacco played out of their absolute minds those years. This year has absolutely not proven "it doesn't matter who the QB is as much". This year's superbowl winner will be a team with an elite QB, again.

    • @nickvaughn6558
      @nickvaughn6558 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jaredsilvers2782I think this year is more due to there not being elite play, which is what might be confusing him. Purdy, tua, and all the slightly above average teams having mediocre qb play. Colts, Steelers, browns until Flacco

    • @Black4Cook
      @Black4Cook 5 месяцев назад +15

      @@jaredsilvers2782 you make the wrong comparison. Who won the last 15 super bowls? Teams with a great o-line, coach and playmakers arround the qb. Mahomes and Burrow lost a superbowl where the o-line was terrible or injured. Rodgers didn't make the super bowl because the defense was unable to stop the run years after year.
      You need a good qb to win the super bowl but the qb doesnt matter if the rest of the team ist trash.

    • @truzzprod.8191
      @truzzprod.8191 5 месяцев назад

      Hope this isn't referring to
      young because he's garbage

    • @celsoflores5092
      @celsoflores5092 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@Black4Cook The good thing is the team with the #1 pick has a good defense, a good offensive line, and quality weapons to throw to. You put Caleb with the right offensive mind to get that potential out of him and your setting him up to succeed right away.

  • @learn2xpand862
    @learn2xpand862 5 месяцев назад +14

    The velocity he has on his ball is just amazing

  • @carlaauri8461
    @carlaauri8461 5 месяцев назад +99

    This is legitimate professional at work.
    Thanks for today’s content and specially that final thought, knowledge brings up certainly to any debate.
    Congrats on soon to be 100K.

  • @shadowflamegaming5598
    @shadowflamegaming5598 5 месяцев назад +16

    As a fan of a team that is almost certainly not making the playoffs, I’m so hyped for draft season! So eager to see all the draft content and evaluations from you Marcus, keep up the good work!

  • @LucaMVP
    @LucaMVP 5 месяцев назад +27

    If you don't classify him as a "generational prospect" then you must at least classify him as a player with "generational potential" no? How often are we gonna see a player that shows shades of Mahomes/Allen/Lamar with proven qb processing coming out of college?

    • @xfranchize
      @xfranchize 5 месяцев назад

      Exactly

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 5 месяцев назад +13

      Exactly, and it's pretty hard for me to get away from the fact those two guys ahead of him in the grades(Burrow, Lawrence) played on absolutely stacked teams with good or great defenses. They didn't have to play with the mentality of "we're going to lose if I can't get this offense 6 TDs today".

    • @vodo1983
      @vodo1983 5 месяцев назад +6

      What's funny is none of the guys you mentioned were considered "generational" either, as prospects. If guys like Mahomes (10th pick), Allen (7h pick / 3 QB taken), and Lamar (32nd pick / 4th QB taken) aren't tabbed as "generational" prospects, then nobody should be considered generational. It seems impossible to actually identify "generational". Just look at how many teams whiffed on Joe Montana (3rd round pick), Tom Brady (6th round pick), and Rodgers (24th pick). Nobody knows what generational means or looks like evidently, so let's stop trying to tab prospects as such.

    • @FantasySportsZen
      @FantasySportsZen 5 месяцев назад

      Nope. Not that good at all.

    • @IndexInvestingWithCole
      @IndexInvestingWithCole 5 месяцев назад +1

      "How often are we gonna see a player that shows shades of Mahomes/Allen/Lamar with proven qb processing coming out of college?"
      Every year

  • @JaredTG.
    @JaredTG. 5 месяцев назад +23

    I think it would be nearly impossible for a QB to make it this far without literally not being capable of playing within structure. Zach Wilson is probably the closest i can think of to fit that and even he has the ability to do so just refuses.

    • @nefonsports3786
      @nefonsports3786 5 месяцев назад +1

      dumb take. he was top ten in qbr inside of the pocket

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 4 месяца назад

      the ruined SAM DARNOLD and ZACH WILSON

    • @ihonestlydontevenknow4359
      @ihonestlydontevenknow4359 4 месяца назад

      i still believe in zw. the jets just fucking ruined him. i think he was pretty good all things considered last year.

  • @SovereignJMagic
    @SovereignJMagic 5 месяцев назад +28

    Man scripted TFG videos about a specific topic are the best. I can’t get enough of it! Thanks Marcus and let’s get this man to 100k! ❤

  • @king_supreme1102
    @king_supreme1102 5 месяцев назад

    Super excited for your draft content this year. Don’t know much about these prospects so I’m anticipating your insight.

  • @ironfistalexander3246
    @ironfistalexander3246 5 месяцев назад +91

    as a bears fan, it's so hard to see fellow bears fans smear this guy. you can like fields but it's hard to deny that williams is a fantastic prospect. ryan poles has a tough decision to make with the amount of people it might piss off

    • @howitbe9846
      @howitbe9846 5 месяцев назад +22

      They'll come around

    • @haydenwalker975
      @haydenwalker975 5 месяцев назад +16

      @@howitbe9846all I had to do was look at Caleb’s stats against ranked teams aswell as the questioning of his leadership capabilities aswell as how highly Justin is talked about in the current locker room. Also there is 0 Guarentee that Caleb could be better than justin

    • @artvandelay216
      @artvandelay216 5 месяцев назад +21

      @@haydenwalker975he most certainly could do better than Fields in the throwing department. Love Fields but the lack of throwing over middle and slow processing has been frustrating
      Give me Caleb or Drake
      🐻⬇️

    • @howitbe9846
      @howitbe9846 5 месяцев назад +40

      @@haydenwalker975 I don't care about how Justin Fields is talked about in the locker room. If you want to look at stats, look at Justin Fields' passing stats, near the bottom of the league on all of them. It wouldn't be very difficult for Caleb to surpass him in passing.

    • @rawness19
      @rawness19 5 месяцев назад +12

      @@howitbe9846 so do you watch the games or just look at stats? I’m just asking cause all I ever here is about stats. No one’s talking about tape.

  • @joshahlstrom2764
    @joshahlstrom2764 4 месяца назад +3

    I love that you released this because the hate has gotten out of control. People just like doing a 180 and going against the consensus I guess without doing any real digging. I’m still a big believer in Caleb Williams and think it won’t take too long for him to become special in the NFL.

  • @rellfacts279
    @rellfacts279 5 месяцев назад +13

    I don’t see the point of Bears fans bashing him just because they want to keep Justin Fields. If anything bash your front office, coaching staff for not getting the most out of Fields while he was there. Ryan Poles could keep Fields just to please the fanbase and some of the players but he didn’t draft him so he has no loyalty to him.

    • @watr19
      @watr19 5 месяцев назад +1

      They got the most out of fields, Caleb’s starting point is Miles better than the best fields has looked on the field his whole career

    • @SekundSun1986
      @SekundSun1986 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's not a Fields vs. Williams debate. It's a Fields and MHJ+picks (on a team that is so far behind) vs. Caleb debate.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 4 месяца назад

      I'd keep Justin. Justin is a franchise QB and Williams looks like a Bryce Young clone.

    • @TheWhyson27
      @TheWhyson27 4 месяца назад +1

      Mitchell Trubisky and Daniel Jones had better stats after three years, so are they franchise qbs?

  • @TanmanC
    @TanmanC 5 месяцев назад +3

    I Love the QB Ranking videos for the draf,t but the long-form videos are also nice!

  • @troajnboi12
    @troajnboi12 5 месяцев назад +1

    Been watching all of your content since the draft class with Darnold in it and this may be your best video yet. Incredible analysis and the last 3 minutes of this video 🔥🔥🔥 bravo on close to 100k

  • @mikec6733
    @mikec6733 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great breakdown. The knowledge, the balanced POV. Superb !!!

  • @pablod_7
    @pablod_7 5 месяцев назад +6

    One of the best videos I've seen on RUclips concerning Caleb Williams. I am a Bears fans and I have seen videos and discussions either praising Williams or slandering him with no real analysis as to why he's either so good or bad.
    You got my sub.

  • @jimbo92107
    @jimbo92107 5 месяцев назад +6

    You showed Caleb do both quick throws and heavy improv deep throws. The key question is, does he understand when it's time to do each one? If he's simply a hot dog gunslinger, then he'll go down in flames. However, I don't think he's that simple. I think he will make the adjustment to faster defenders, cutting down on the scrambling. His team should also provide him with faster, more sure-handed receivers that can gain extra yards themselves, making his scrambles less needed.

  • @mattmosconi2074
    @mattmosconi2074 5 месяцев назад +16

    Awesome video. I'm a Bears fan and I'm much more excited about Caleb than I was before.
    I initially had Drake Maye as my preferred guy, because I saw lots of underlying stats showing him with stronger results than Caleb.
    So I hope you are able to put a Drake Maye video out there. I'd love to compare and contrast.

    • @ye24christisking40
      @ye24christisking40 4 месяца назад +1

      Wouldn't it make more sense to go with the guy that they've been developing for 3 years as opposed to a question mark?

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ye24christisking40 caleb is just a combo of baker kyler and jalen hurts since he is a lincoln riley qb

    • @ye24christisking40
      @ye24christisking40 4 месяца назад +1

      @@ektran4205 nah

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 4 месяца назад +1

      Don't you think Caleb will be another Bryce Young?

  • @ealy1399
    @ealy1399 5 месяцев назад +5

    Such an underrated channel, you make some of the best nfl content on RUclips

  • @justinleandoer6821
    @justinleandoer6821 5 месяцев назад +2

    Cannot wait for the draft guide

  • @Jazzere2244
    @Jazzere2244 5 месяцев назад +4

    Awesome video. One of your best for sure. As a bears fan hoping we take Caleb, this is great and potentially depressing come April.

  • @jmlaspina1
    @jmlaspina1 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome work here Marcus I know I give you a hard time with my giants but love the content my man

  • @njmartinez29
    @njmartinez29 5 месяцев назад +6

    man even as a chiefs fan with no need to scout qbs, this is awesome content and a good way to see the upcoming generation of QBs coming into the league

    • @tomjones2056
      @tomjones2056 5 месяцев назад

      Mahomes slide is in full effect don’t speak too soon 😅

    • @DiegoCrawford
      @DiegoCrawford 3 месяца назад

      @@tomjones2056You were saying?

  • @neilkaplan1433
    @neilkaplan1433 5 месяцев назад

    definitely like this format. Would also like to see some shorter ones on other positions as well

  • @user-ho3ih9jz4c
    @user-ho3ih9jz4c 5 месяцев назад

    for the algorithm, love you bro keep up the good work

  • @MLGDouglas
    @MLGDouglas 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Aaron rodgers bit 💀💀. Also the Yolo meter is genius.
    Great job man! Luv ur stuff!

  • @sacredsymbol821
    @sacredsymbol821 5 месяцев назад

    im getting over a nasty cold to see TFG dropped a new vid, my day just improved 100 percent

  • @ambrogi1982
    @ambrogi1982 5 месяцев назад

    Like Like Like... very fortunate I came upon your page. I love the draft content so far, brother. New sub here. As a Redskins fan, I'm looking forward to the Drake Maye video in similar format (hopefully). These, and the "Watched film for the first time..." series have been very helpful/entertaining in guiding my hope for our QB at #2. Keep up the great work!

  • @Missiletainn13
    @Missiletainn13 5 месяцев назад +1

    so excited to see how you rank all these QB’s this draft class is interesting

    • @FantasySportsZen
      @FantasySportsZen 5 месяцев назад

      He'll have Caleb #1, Maye #2. Don't expect any hot takes. He was ALL OVER Bryce Young. Lol.

    • @Missiletainn13
      @Missiletainn13 5 месяцев назад

      @@FantasySportsZen who wasn’t? bryce still has a bright future imo

  • @agent-21-7
    @agent-21-7 5 месяцев назад +9

    5:53 Fields would’ve been sacked. Bears don’t try and get cute and trade down again. Take this man.

  • @irish6783
    @irish6783 5 месяцев назад +3

    I don’t know how bears fans can look at this. See what this QB is possible of doing and being content with fields.

    • @jordanp4134
      @jordanp4134 5 месяцев назад +2

      Bears fans like fields more as a person and a runner than an actual QB

  • @JohnAC4
    @JohnAC4 5 месяцев назад

    The zoom on the bears bobble at the end was everything I needed🤣

  • @STBR247
    @STBR247 5 месяцев назад +10

    I wore my TFG T-shirt at a local poker game and they all asked what it was. I sent them to your channel. Your channel deserves all the praise it gets! Keep balling out.

  • @AlphaDwg
    @AlphaDwg 5 месяцев назад +14

    I have no doubts about Caleb. I’ve seen enough. I want my commanders to bring him back home even though we ruin quarterbacks. At some point we have to hit right 😂

    • @J-5ive
      @J-5ive 5 месяцев назад +1

      All things new, front office etc. I think he will be treated correctly this time if we get him (Praying we do)

    • @tremiller3988
      @tremiller3988 5 месяцев назад +5

      U can defo have him 🐻👇

    • @charlesmoore8185
      @charlesmoore8185 5 месяцев назад +7

      @@tremiller3988he’s going to Chicago get used to it

    • @Icebgriz
      @Icebgriz 5 месяцев назад +2

      HE'S A BEAR

    • @Icebgriz
      @Icebgriz 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@J-5iveWHY WOULD THE BEARS NOT TAKE HIM?

  • @jadendurham6951
    @jadendurham6951 4 месяца назад

    Great analysis. Level-headed and objective, love this channel

  • @ryancarter4087
    @ryancarter4087 5 месяцев назад

    Love the YOLO meter such a good graphic!

  • @RonRova
    @RonRova 5 месяцев назад +3

    Outstanding, my man!!!!

  • @isaacgartzman7523
    @isaacgartzman7523 4 месяца назад

    great insight Marcus! Definitely sold me on the Bears moving on from Fields and getting Caleb. I think that his off-the-field issues are also something to consider in his profile, but obviously it's hard to do that without actually having met the guy.

  • @smittytheking1218
    @smittytheking1218 5 месяцев назад +5

    I think he’s Kyler Murray in a real QB sized package.

    • @ThatFranchiseGuy
      @ThatFranchiseGuy  5 месяцев назад +2

      Could see it.

    • @mikevismyelement
      @mikevismyelement 5 месяцев назад +1

      I think he is smarter and has a better arm than Kyler Murray too. People forget that Kyler was great when he was engaged and locked in but he has definitely ruined his own reputation by coasting laat season and then getting injured

  • @philibusters23
    @philibusters23 5 месяцев назад +2

    After watching this video I would love to have Caleb Williams on my favorite team. Unfortunately I am not a Bears fan (go Commanders), so that is not going to happen for me. Cannot wait for the Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels videos who Washington might have a realistic chance of drafting.

  • @QuintonLeo
    @QuintonLeo 5 месяцев назад +2

    The issue with Caleb Williams is 2 things:
    1. He played the last 2 years in the PAC-12 which lead to him playing late games and very few got to see him play live on any sort of consistent basis.
    2. Recency Bias. USC was awful this year and wasn't anywhere close to making CFP. IMO, he is a truly special prospect. I think the term generational is a bit misunderstood at this point and honestly needs to just stop being used. He's a must have franchise QB, just like Kyler, Burrow, Lawrence and even Luck were. I put him in that category. Those were safe picks. Caleb is a safe pick.

  • @pedroy0909
    @pedroy0909 4 месяца назад

    Great video, waiting on that Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels report.

  • @SecronSeven
    @SecronSeven 4 месяца назад

    New to the channel. Great video!

  • @deccwith2cs
    @deccwith2cs 5 месяцев назад +4

    I watch your content every yesr and it still amazes me how you don't have a million subs let alone 100k

  • @Jayy1K.
    @Jayy1K. 5 месяцев назад

    love these please make more i beg you

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden3045 5 месяцев назад +2

    He’s going to be closer to Ryan leaf than Payton manning
    But the good news is he go pt enough people,fooled that the bears are going to get more for this pick than they did last year

  • @kash.383
    @kash.383 5 месяцев назад +1

    Good video TFG. Question though, I'm wondering if when you do your final eval on Caleb, will your eval on Bryce Young from last year some what effect the eval for Caleb. Last year, you compared Bryce Young to Mahomes and so far that doesn't seem to be the case. Wondering if you've learned from that eval and believe that you will do better with Caleb. Can't wait for draft season and your coverage good luck in the offseason

    • @noahhargrafen7486
      @noahhargrafen7486 5 месяцев назад

      Bryce young is still great, may just have the worst supporting cast of any QB in the history of ever

    • @mikevismyelement
      @mikevismyelement 5 месяцев назад

      I am not ready to pull the plug on any QB after 1 season. Peyton Manning had a bad year his first season.

    • @t4d0W
      @t4d0W 5 месяцев назад

      I think the pocket presence was somewhat apt in comparison to what Mahomes developed. But he also had Tyreek/Kelce by the time he started to help punish defenses attempting to blitz him. Bryce had all the bad juju going for him with a bad coaching staff designing the offense, receivers that can't separate and a non-existant run offense. He also has a shitbag of an owner to deal with too while he's arguably the best offensive player for the Panthers on the field.

  • @ashlynmashburn845
    @ashlynmashburn845 5 месяцев назад

    Hey man I was wondering if anyone knows where he gets his film for the videos from?

  • @micahkittay773
    @micahkittay773 5 месяцев назад

    Thumbnail artwork on point

  • @ICre8sportsTalk
    @ICre8sportsTalk 4 месяца назад

    Excellent analysis 💯💯💯

  • @neochezhian
    @neochezhian 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great content! Not sure why all negativity on Caleb, so many bad rumors around the kid. I blame of OSU fans. Caleb is not Tom Brady in processing so does most NFL prospects

  • @rlucas96
    @rlucas96 3 месяца назад

    Got you bro. Liked and subbed.

  • @C4m4r0
    @C4m4r0 4 месяца назад +2

    As a bears fan, my biggest worry about him is that in a lot of USC's losses, he was a major reason for those losses with turnovers. It did seem that whenever a team had a defense that had disguised looks, he struggled. It also doesn't help that the bears never hire any coaches who can elevate a qb so a lot of those bad traits will stay.

    • @youtubeistryingtocensorme
      @youtubeistryingtocensorme 4 месяца назад

      Just another bust waiting to happen

    • @ektran4205
      @ektran4205 4 месяца назад +1

      @@youtubeistryingtocensorme DRAFTED QBS are all about the teams' situations

  • @jrm78
    @jrm78 3 месяца назад +1

    I hope the Bears do draft Caleb Williams. The current argument here around Chicago is between keeping Fields while trading the #1 pick for a boatload of draft picks or picking Williams and moving on from Fields. While Fields can make some spectacular plays with his legs and occasionally throwing the ball, he's been far too inconsistent in his execution for me to think his ceiling is that of a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
    ps. Came across your channel after watching a short video essay by Logan Hurley describing your content as 'elite' along with Tom Grossi and it doesn't disappoint.

  • @andershaukoos
    @andershaukoos 5 месяцев назад

    This channel is criminally underrated

  • @Icebgriz
    @Icebgriz 5 месяцев назад +3

    WELCOME TO CHICAGO CALEB

  • @beatty1229
    @beatty1229 5 месяцев назад

    Sorry this is random, but do you still do Madden draft classes? I swear I used to always use the TFG ones and that’s how I originally found the RUclips. Great work you’ve done

  • @borolf
    @borolf 5 месяцев назад

    such a great breakdown

  • @jordanp4134
    @jordanp4134 5 месяцев назад +7

    As a bears fan, I hope they get Caleb. I was out on fields awhile ago

  • @NotMeNaNaNa
    @NotMeNaNaNa 4 месяца назад +1

    As a Bears fan who has suffered through the literal Death Valley of QB’s from Cade McNown to Mitch Trubisky it is tough to give up on Fields, but low and behold we got the #1 pick again and this year “can’t miss” QBs are available.
    That said, in the last 15yrs the following QBs were “can’t miss”
    2011- Cam Newton
    2012- Andrew Luck
    2020- Joe Burrow
    2021- Trevor Lawrence
    3 of the 4 seemingly lived up to the hype with Lawrence going from “maybe it was Urban Meyer’s fault” to “maybe last year’s playoff win was a fluke”. None of them won a Super Bowl with Newton and Burrow both getting to one early in their careers but also were plagued by injuries like Luck who decided to retire early vs stick it out with Indy.
    I see a lot of similarities to those guys in Williams, whether it would be bad coaching leading to poor development, possible injuries derailing his development or worst of all he loses his passion for the game and takes his money and retires before he gets hurt too bad like Luck.

  • @terranceramirez4816
    @terranceramirez4816 5 месяцев назад

    15:00 what I hear you saying there is that Williams would be best suited for the Andy Reid, Brian Daboll, Mike Kafkaesque system aka the “NFL Air Raid.” There’s absolutely no need to stress out about whether he can or does play on time in structure if he’s not in a system that overly emphasizes those things.

  • @benmorgan9748
    @benmorgan9748 5 месяцев назад

    Best football channel on RUclips!

  • @RiChicago
    @RiChicago 5 месяцев назад +5

    As a Bears fan, I need to prepare myself for the possibility that Justin might not get to finish out his rookie deal in Chicago and Caleb may be the next Bears QB.
    Gimme the info Marcus.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 4 месяца назад

      Caleb won't accept going to Chicago, IMO.

    • @RiChicago
      @RiChicago 4 месяца назад

      @@joeking433 that'd make no logical sense

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 4 месяца назад

      @@RiChicago Why would he agree to go to shit team where QB's go to die?

    • @RiChicago
      @RiChicago 4 месяца назад

      @@joeking433 You're obviously a troll

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 4 месяца назад

      @@RiChicago If you think that then you are obviously an idiot. And if Williams accepts the Chicago job he's an idiiot!

  • @AntiPlatitude
    @AntiPlatitude 4 месяца назад

    Watching him essentially see out of the back of his head when a rusher is bearing down on him on his “blind” side is kind of crazy. It’s almost like he’s got an NFL earpiece in his helmet and the offensive coordinator is telling him (during the play) “the right side defensive end got past our left tackle and is headed your way fast,” and then he just jukes him without even looking.

  • @matthewsheyfilms6157
    @matthewsheyfilms6157 5 месяцев назад

    You’re the man!

  • @Jason99107
    @Jason99107 4 месяца назад

    Will you have one of these for JJ? I love your film breakdowns and would be curious on your opinions of him

  • @jajuanbell7141
    @jajuanbell7141 5 месяцев назад

    Great video.

  • @user-ij7xv5xi4n
    @user-ij7xv5xi4n 3 месяца назад

    I remember seeing Manziel college highlights. Never seen anything like it.😅😅

  • @dezthegem9522
    @dezthegem9522 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is not shade but why does he struggle against good teams? I’m genuinely curious since he’s so talented

  • @Just4Kicks80
    @Just4Kicks80 5 месяцев назад

    Love your point that he can play within structure but simply chooses not too. And I don't blame him for hunting for the TD or big play because USC would lose games where he dropped 45 pts. Most of the time he HAD to score. I think if he had a even slightly competent defense he wouldn't have to try to score on every play and be a bit more methodical with his throw selection

  • @nicolastomas8436
    @nicolastomas8436 4 месяца назад

    I’d love to see Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels draft profile videos aswell.

  • @waxer32123
    @waxer32123 5 месяцев назад

    The most under appreciated RUclipsr of all time

  • @rjharrold2907
    @rjharrold2907 5 месяцев назад

    22:18 It does look a bit busted with communication before the snap but pretty sure it was supposed to be a match 4, maybe a match 3

  • @bobbywayne2947
    @bobbywayne2947 5 месяцев назад

    Do you have any background with nfl teams and scouting? Worked for one?

    • @FantasySportsZen
      @FantasySportsZen 5 месяцев назад

      I don't think he has but his work and effort is substantial. NFL execs are mostly dopes anyways. The ones TFG misses on eval are usually the "chalk media darlings" 99% of content has wrong. Like Bryce. He puts in the hours, agree or not.

  • @jackgray676
    @jackgray676 5 месяцев назад

    Hey so in a superflex dynasty league is it marv or caleb at the 1.01? I’ve got the 1.05 so can get a different qb there or Rome. I’ve got Kyler and Bryce as my qbs atm

    • @ThatFranchiseGuy
      @ThatFranchiseGuy  5 месяцев назад

      Depends who your WRs are too but it's probably Caleb?

    • @FantasySportsZen
      @FantasySportsZen 5 месяцев назад

      His name is Jayden Daniels. You can thank me later. 😂 Might wanna get away from the midget qbs, just a suggestion. It's a big boys' game.

    • @jackgray676
      @jackgray676 4 месяца назад

      @@ThatFranchiseGuy thanks for taking the time to respond, no idea how I just saw this. Tae adams, Garrett Wilson, JSN, downs

    • @jackgray676
      @jackgray676 4 месяца назад

      Also the top 5 looks to be Caleb, marv, Maye, Daniels, nabers for me at 5? Or double up on qb if one falls bc odunze not worth probably?

  • @joaquinfernandez9067
    @joaquinfernandez9067 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @masechase463
    @masechase463 5 месяцев назад +1

    Where would you rank Caleb among last years QBs?

    • @jaredsilvers2782
      @jaredsilvers2782 5 месяцев назад +1

      He showed Bryce Young's grade, Caleb's was way higher, so he would rank him first.

  • @philibusters23
    @philibusters23 5 месяцев назад

    It sounds like Marcus is using a similar definition to the one I am using, but my understanding of generational for the NFL is 10 years. Admittedly that number works less well for quarterbacks, kicker, punters. The idea is that a good NFL career will last about 10 years so every 10 years 90% of the players have turned over. Sure some O-Lineman might make it 14 years in the league just like some people live to 100 despite the average life expectancy being in the 70's, but in general a 10 year NFL career is a good career. You could quibble with that a QB, where the talent is more elite because unlike other positions, only one player can start for a team, and where the rules try to protect players extending their career and argue, generational for QB should be like every 15 years, but in general I like the 10 year rule for generational.
    Broadly speaking there are about 10 positon groups
    1. QB
    2. RB
    3. TE
    4. WR
    5. O-Line (and you could break that down in to T, G, and C's if you wanted)
    6. DE
    7. DT's
    8. Offball linebackers
    9. CB's
    10. S
    So a generation is 10 year and there are 10 positions, you'd expect one positional group to have a generational talent per draft cycle. Certainly some classes would have none and some would have 2 or 3.
    I do think the term generational is probably overused; however the people who complain about act like a generation is like a human generation (25 to 30 years) and that there are not 10-12 position groups so we should only hear about generational talents once every 25 years.

  • @dawsonnance4407
    @dawsonnance4407 5 месяцев назад

    Marcus coming out with banger after banger

  • @steveosborn7224
    @steveosborn7224 3 месяца назад

    Bro I like that Kittle jersey. He's a beast. If I were an NFL team I would be excited to draft Caleb.

  • @felixlara2945
    @felixlara2945 5 месяцев назад +2

    Kinda sounds like you're just describing a prime Russell Wilson but with pocket presence

  • @FlapJack4Gaming
    @FlapJack4Gaming 5 месяцев назад

    28:56 that edit lmao, i see you

  • @germanicusternus1982
    @germanicusternus1982 5 месяцев назад

    Fun tape. I’d take him.

  • @andrewcaraway1349
    @andrewcaraway1349 5 месяцев назад

    Great video!

    • @ThatFranchiseGuy
      @ThatFranchiseGuy  5 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it Andrew! Change you mind at all?

    • @andrewcaraway1349
      @andrewcaraway1349 5 месяцев назад

      @@ThatFranchiseGuy the talent is undeniable. I just question between the ears his emotion and his personality. This breakdown was absolutely fantastic though. Learned some new things that you don’t see watching the games live.

  • @Tim_Leclair
    @Tim_Leclair 5 месяцев назад

    love this content

  • @tccrypto8392
    @tccrypto8392 5 месяцев назад +1

    You see the talent clear as day. However, you can't ignore he's 4-9 against teams ranked in the top 25 throughout his career and didn't look very good this year against some of the top defenses he played such as ND and Oregon. He'll be going up against the best of the best in the NFL so a lot of the stuff that wows us at the college level may not translate once he gets to the pros.

    • @anthonyruiz3134
      @anthonyruiz3134 5 месяцев назад +5

      Patrick Mahomes never beat a single ranked team in college, Josh Allen beat just 2 ranked team in college, Lamar Jackson beat just 1 ranked team in college, Aaron Rodgers beat just 2 ranked teams in college. That’s 4 ranked wins between the 4 of those QB’s who are on the way to the hall of fame, I’m not gonna sit up here and say that what you’re saying doesn’t matter because that would be wrong, but if it mattered that much only Alabama, Georgia, and a few other schools QB’s would be talked about as first round talents at the QB position.

  • @dennisrey4787
    @dennisrey4787 4 месяца назад

    He's already ahead of the curve... making and processing throws that Fields can't or refuses to do... hope he's in a Bears uniform next season

  • @MarkTaint
    @MarkTaint 5 месяцев назад +1

    This convinced me

  • @Ynkno
    @Ynkno 5 месяцев назад

    Draft Szn here🤩

  • @dillon_cole
    @dillon_cole 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love the yolo meter lol

  • @KDRusha
    @KDRusha 4 месяца назад

    Maybe it’s bc I’ve always played different sports throwing at different angles off different platforms but I just don’t get how some QBs can’t throw on the run accurately. It’s not hard unless you’ve got a man in your grill but that’s tough in the pocket too

  • @ramonfoster1224
    @ramonfoster1224 5 месяцев назад +9

    The people saying Caleb is a bust couldn’t be more wrong. This guy is a top 10 to 15 QB the second he gets drafted.

    • @Icebgriz
      @Icebgriz 5 месяцев назад +1

      POLES ISN'T FOOLED

    • @FantasySportsZen
      @FantasySportsZen 5 месяцев назад +2

      Oh really? Haha. Just like Bryce? Lance? Wilson? Fields? Lmao. This kid is not that good. You don't have to agree with everything the media tries to ram down your throat. Won like 6 games at a major conference powerhouse lmao. Small and slow by NFL standards. Constantly runs backwards from the pocket. Brittle. ...
      Gonna be a disaster. 😂

    • @ramonfoster1224
      @ramonfoster1224 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@FantasySportsZen you brought up a bunch of QBs I didn’t mention. I said Caleb Williams. People just get on this app to argue their stupid point. If you knew anything about football you would know Caleb is definitely top 15 when he gets drafted at least.

    • @stingzen82
      @stingzen82 5 месяцев назад

      You know that how? I need your crystal ball to win the lottery ​@@ramonfoster1224

    • @tomjones2056
      @tomjones2056 5 месяцев назад

      Top 15 isn’t good… would qualify for a bust as a #1 pick imo

  • @Gordy6179
    @Gordy6179 5 месяцев назад

    I have seen Coach T talk about how it is primarily an RPOish offense and not much Shannhan style. It was nice to see from a neutral perspective people's thoughts on this. However, getting multiple ones and a player for him seems way too rich to pass up. It feels like destiny for this dude to go to WAS to restart the franchise image. If my Bears do take him I see a little bit of a Trevor Lawrence start.

  • @Mosoreal
    @Mosoreal 5 месяцев назад

    I haven't seen him go through NFL type pressure he reminds me of Mariota in college hopeful hes different and brings this to the NFL

    • @Mosoreal
      @Mosoreal 5 месяцев назад

      Especially if Da Bears draft him with that oline

  • @jacobsullivan4206
    @jacobsullivan4206 5 месяцев назад

    How do you get CFB all 22 film?

    • @bofi1280
      @bofi1280 3 месяца назад

      It's nearly impossible to get, it's heavily guarded for some reason. I feel like the only way to get it is if you have some type of connections.

  • @hia5235
    @hia5235 5 месяцев назад +1

    Every year they say someone is a "generational talent"
    Look at Lawrence: he in fact, isnt a generational talent