Slingshot Band Tuning with the Slingshot Canon!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
  • Band tuning. It is almost IMPOSSIBLE to overstate how important band tuning is.
    As we mentioned in part 1 of this series, bands can really be a conundrum. We send out 7/16 bandsets which are overpowered for almost all enthusiasts who shoot many hundreds of lighter-weight rounds with matched (lighter) bandsets.
    But . . . since we (SimpleShot) bring thousands of NEW shooters into the sport for the first time, we have to consider the desire of first-time shooters. You guessed it. They want POWER and when you don't give them power, they tell their friends that slingshots are dumb.
    So that's the conundrum.
    But there's an answer: tuning.
    Our 7/16 bandsets are more latex (energy) than you need for most projectiles. But it's OK. Here, we demonstrate that even a fat band can shoot a 3/8 steel round at s l o w speeds or at a nice clip with just a simple snip of the bands.
    Join us in this live demo of the speed possibilities of one bandset shooting 3/8 steel!
    simple-shot.com

Комментарии • 147

  • @skiddwister9143
    @skiddwister9143 Год назад +7

    A company that does more than pump out products. Love your videos.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +2

      Thank you! Our support does not end when you buy the product. We want to see you enjoy the sport as well!

  • @andrewhanke8576
    @andrewhanke8576 Год назад +10

    This is by far the best video on explaining how to tune the bands. Thank you for explaining this so well. I have been shooting about 7 years and this was still beneficial to watch. Excellent work.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +2

      Thank you and you are very welcome.

  • @pinkyellowblue007
    @pinkyellowblue007 Месяц назад

    I'm really glad I ordered a slingshot from you, you have the greatest support of any company. These videos are answering all my questions as a beginner.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you for your support. Glad to help!

  • @threestarsandasling
    @threestarsandasling Год назад +7

    Couldn't have demonstrated it any better. Brilliant video Nathan!👍

  • @angiestoner545
    @angiestoner545 Год назад +4

    Thanks, Nathan, for this video was very informative. I will keep this in mind when cutting my bands. Thank you..

  • @benpriestman4015
    @benpriestman4015 Год назад +5

    quite literally the most advanced and scientific demo on bands ever done.................. Brilliant stuff Nathan!!!!!!!!!

  • @darrellallen7931
    @darrellallen7931 5 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video on band tuning, tks Nathan for all that SimpleShot does for this sport. 👍

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  5 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, it is our pleasure!

  • @kennyl9419
    @kennyl9419 Год назад +4

    With every video I learn something new. Keep them coming.

  • @thefloorstalker6064
    @thefloorstalker6064 Год назад +3

    Super video... Great demo... Thanks much

  • @XspeedXracerX
    @XspeedXracerX Год назад +3

    Thank you... and very informative! New shooter here. Just purchased the Scout from you guys. Was a very nice package deal with 500 clay shots and 3 sets of bands. Will purchase again!

  • @randycassidy198
    @randycassidy198 Год назад +3

    Awesome setup Nathan!

  • @grahamfisher2566
    @grahamfisher2566 Год назад +2

    Right now this geezer is without doubt number one in a field of one. Excellent video; informative and so entertainingly presented. Plus I learnt a lot, which is the whole point. I live across the pond on the English/Welsh border and there is just nothing comes close to this sort of stuff around here. Many thanks.

  • @Hoggy1963
    @Hoggy1963 Год назад +2

    SWEET, thanks Nathan

  • @Faustj515
    @Faustj515 Год назад +4

    Your cannon is neat and the data is clear. It would be good to see draw weight included in your data and data for your other band sets also. Perhaps that is planned in the near future. Your educational component is a great service for all of us.

    • @ZaneDargaty
      @ZaneDargaty Год назад +2

      And maybe include this information as part of the sales information. Standardize on a 30" draw and with this size ammo and this length bandset this is the speed you can expect.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Thank you so much.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      That will vary with different temps and elongation factors.

  • @advisortomen
    @advisortomen Год назад +2

    Well done. Very helpful

  • @canvandal4503
    @canvandal4503 Год назад +2

    Great breakdown! Love it!👊🙏

  • @axsomoutdooradventures
    @axsomoutdooradventures Год назад +2

    Good stuff, Mr Masters. Super interesting visual explanation.

  • @sandstorm6605
    @sandstorm6605 Год назад +2

    Informative presentation. Really nicely done. That’s some rig too! Very cool. It’d be really neat shoulder mounted! 😜

  • @MrPatrick7777
    @MrPatrick7777 Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing this.
    It is very difficult to explain tuning.

  • @mikemiles3068
    @mikemiles3068 Год назад +2

    Great video and I just received my New SCOUT X and order from SIMPLE-SHOT today. I ordered 1/4” Steel Shot and .7 MM Band set that I intend to leave at Full 10” to make the draw pull as light as possible because of a shoulder injury, I watched many of your videos and I hope I selected the correct combinations.

    • @Faustj515
      @Faustj515 Год назад +2

      You are kind of missing the point. You would be much better off using a band set that SimpleShot sells that is sized for 1/4 inch ammo or one designed to shoot 5/16 ammo. I would size them to get an elongation factor of 4. You will have the light draw that you are looking for but get much higher velocities. The 5/16 band set will last longer than the 1/4 inch set and both will draw easier than the .7 band.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Thank you so much. You should get the Lite Flat Bands 1/4" for the 1/4" Steel Ammo. It will be much more pleasant to shoot. The Standard Flat Bands 7/16" are much too strong for 1/4" Steel Ammo.

  • @lorenzocasabar1747
    @lorenzocasabar1747 Год назад +1

    Nice to know the positive outcome that it can do, very good information Mahalo Nathan

  • @ShaunPanzer
    @ShaunPanzer Месяц назад

    Great Video

  • @tonykenaston4048
    @tonykenaston4048 Год назад +2

    Great informative video. More new content on band tuning for novice shooters., please. Old videos are all good just like to see your face. Perhaps, cover the differing thicknesses offered and how that is useful.

  • @sf2998
    @sf2998 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! 500% elongation might not sound like much, but for some type of bands and taper setup 500% is alot and will break the band quickly.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  8 месяцев назад

      it just depends on the latex.

  • @armandogonzales9304
    @armandogonzales9304 Год назад +2

    Good Video. I am now shooting 5x elongation on all my frames. Accuracy is the diameter of a soda can at 20 ft.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Thank you so much. That is great to hear!

  • @macmyers8143
    @macmyers8143 Год назад +1

    Excellent, really excellent!

  • @michaelb.42112
    @michaelb.42112 Год назад

    I tuned my bands to my 26" pull. I wish I could tune my air rifle as easily !!! Thanks Nathan. - Mike in California.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +1

      You are very welcome! Glad it helped!

  • @georgecross8424
    @georgecross8424 Год назад +1

    Nice video, I'm liking that set up , it's vary informative, I've always set my bands at 7 1/4, it just feels good for me and I get pretty good accuracy with that, at about 50ft

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Awesome! If it's not broke, don't fix it, right?

  • @pinggolfdog
    @pinggolfdog Год назад +1

    Great visual.

  • @RikklesFisher
    @RikklesFisher Год назад +2

    Great info! I would love to see a video where you try and seek out the most velocity, as a slingshot hunter I have been playing around with ammo and bands, I use .7mm and 7/16 ammo but I'd still love more power. I think I'm going to find my ideal setup with .6mm tapered bands and 3/8th ammo but I would love any suggestions.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Play with different elongations to find your ideal sweet spot.

  • @catorcelokon7837
    @catorcelokon7837 3 месяца назад

    “Wyd this weekend bro”
    Me: tuning my bands bro😂

  • @irmaztamal21
    @irmaztamal21 Год назад +1

    I was advice by Slingshot Malaysia 🇲🇾 Admin back in year 2021 to cut my band length from range 180 mm to 140 mm to achieve more power... and yes it really works.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +1

      Yes, it will just depend on your draw length.

  • @chrisd933
    @chrisd933 Год назад +1

    Great video!

  • @S.Y-a-ok
    @S.Y-a-ok Год назад +1

    Very interesting. Thanks.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Very welcome, glad you liked it.

  • @paulhampson8496
    @paulhampson8496 Год назад +1

    enjoyed that short draw is for me shoot 22 x 16 150 working lenth .55 falcon no bake bean can is cheers Nathan

  • @the-catty-cult
    @the-catty-cult Год назад +1

    There may have been a slightly higher speed with the last shot if it wasn't stretched for as long a time as it was. I tend to hold my draw for 5 seconds as it seems to slow the bands down a fraction to stop me shooting over the top of the target. We need a really scientific video testing band length, tapers, time held and any other variables smarter people can think of😂. Another great video nathen

  • @mehmetkupeli8611
    @mehmetkupeli8611 Год назад +1

    Great video ! Thanks.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      You are welcome! Thank you so much.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      You are welcome! Thank you so much.

  • @marshalldunlap8358
    @marshalldunlap8358 Год назад +1

    Impressive demonstration. Unfortunately, I start to lose accuracy if I cut my bands too short because my arms can’t hold the fork steady and I speed bump pinch the pouch. Thanks for the excellent video.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      Thank you so much and you are very welcome.

  • @reTro2k7
    @reTro2k7 Год назад

    Thanks, very good video

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +1

      Glad you liked it! We hope it helped.

  • @westsenkovec
    @westsenkovec Год назад +1

    This just goes to show that sometimes less is more in terms of performance and six inches is pretty much the ideal length.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      That just depends on the users draw length. 6 inches could be way to long for a shooter with say a 26 inch draw length. If they are after speed, they will need to trim it down some more.

    • @markberlinger4851
      @markberlinger4851 8 месяцев назад

      That’s what my wife tells me too

  • @TravelingAnvil
    @TravelingAnvil Год назад +1

    Heyyy! Using your other videos I trimmed mine to an 8 inch band! Super cool to see the feeling validated with a Chrono and data!

  • @DrummerJez86
    @DrummerJez86 Год назад +1

    could you do a similar thing but a few different ammo sizes per thickness of rubber to prove your ammo size to rubber thickness relationship you are always talking about ? would be cool to see. and another one measuring impact force lol.. slingshot science

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      You will see more tests in the future.

  • @senorali
    @senorali 8 месяцев назад

    That's a great testing rig. Do you have any details on the catch mechanism you're using? Are the forks using torsion springs, with the trigger wedging the forks apart to fire?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  8 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, it uses the typical firing mechanism for slingshot rifles that spreads apart to fire.

  • @gazzabyerun9048
    @gazzabyerun9048 Год назад

    Thank you for showing this, you should sell that tuning jig, or do you have a video showing how to build one? I bought a couple of your sling shots, enjoying them very much!

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад +1

      Thank you, we do not have the Slingshot Cannon for sale. If another one is built, maybe we can record it. 😉

    • @gazzabyerun9048
      @gazzabyerun9048 Год назад

      @@simpleshot 🎯Awesome , thank you!

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      You are very welcome.

  • @jordanmorris4220
    @jordanmorris4220 Год назад +1

    So whatever your draw length is divided (÷) that number by 5 for optimum power?
    Great vid Nathan 👌

    • @james6028
      @james6028 Год назад +2

      for optimum power you want to be at the max elongation for whatever elastic you are using. probably closer to 6x but your bands wont last very long and the draw weight will be very heavy!

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      It will depend on the max elongation of the latex. 500% is ideal for band life vs speed for our latex we sell and use for bands.

  • @slingshotamatiran
    @slingshotamatiran Год назад +2

    👍

  • @brutallindigo
    @brutallindigo Год назад +1

    Are all elastics use the 5 rule?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      No, different brands of latex will have different elongation factors.

  • @rajaahmudally6809
    @rajaahmudally6809 Год назад +1

    I just bought an axiom
    Will the ball bearing inside the plugs rust when in contact with water?

  • @ignatiuslaurent58
    @ignatiuslaurent58 9 месяцев назад

    I would like to know what size ball bearings you was using for this test .

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  9 месяцев назад

      This was with 3/8" Steel Ammo.

  • @teamtls
    @teamtls 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Nathan. I just bought a scout LT and trying to work out the band length. Your calculations are for a 30" draw length but how do I make the calculation as I have a 32.5 inch draw length? Kind regards.

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  7 месяцев назад +1

      Here is a link that should help.
      simple-shot.com/pages/slingshot-faqs#reamaze#0#/kb/slingshot-bands-and-bandsets/band-tuning-how-to-measure-my-bands-tune-my-bands-and-shoot-fastest

  • @dillongenoe281
    @dillongenoe281 5 месяцев назад

    With this being stated should you still tune bands specifically for clay ammo ??

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, you will still want to trim the Clay Shooting Flat Bands the same way.

  • @edwardzacharijr8892
    @edwardzacharijr8892 10 месяцев назад

    Should my clay practice ammo weigh the same as my target ammo? Clay ammo is 3/8 ths of an inch and aprox 1 gram and 1/4 th of an inch steel is aprox 1 gram. So more weight than size matters is that correct?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  10 месяцев назад

      Yes, the weight is what you want to pay attention to. You got it!

  • @dillongenoe281
    @dillongenoe281 4 месяца назад

    So serious question I have the scout x and find that it’s super consistent with clay ammo and clay bands but I’ve recently switched to 7/16 bands with 11mm steel and it’s still consistent but the sight reference is way off I can group solid just not actually hit what I want any suggestions

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  3 месяца назад +1

      You may need to change your anchor point. You can also shorten your bands but the 7/16" Steel Ammo will drop at a closer distance since it is heavier than the Clay Ammo.

  • @ADHobbyDisorder
    @ADHobbyDisorder 6 месяцев назад

    That was with 3/8 ammo? How fast would 7/16 ammo be going with those bands at 5x elongation?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  6 месяцев назад

      Speeds will vary with the draw length one has. Someone with a 28 inch draw at 5x elongation will not shoot as fast as someone with a 36 inch draw length a=using a 5x elongation.

  • @mayjoserna6665
    @mayjoserna6665 Год назад +1

    Informacion de primer nivel

  • @larrycox6614
    @larrycox6614 Год назад +1

    At what minimum FPS rating would you "generally" consider to be appropriate for hunting; accuracy and shot placement being a given requirement?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      The distance that it will penetrate a steel bean can. The velocity will drop over distance, so it is best to use this test.

    • @usernamemykel
      @usernamemykel 9 месяцев назад

      Aren't steel beans diffucultr to chew?@@simpleshot

  • @bleikrsound6127
    @bleikrsound6127 Год назад +1

    Hi Nathan, new to the hobby - I’m sure you’ve had this Q before - how many times have you been slapped in the face with malfunctioning bands?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      With proper watching this should never occur.

    • @bleikrsound6127
      @bleikrsound6127 Год назад

      @@simpleshot Ok, I assumed you would have had a few anecdotes of mishaps during product development.
      I am enjoying the hobby, and your extensive information has shortened the learning curve.
      Thanks!

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      You are very welcome. We are happy to help.

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 8 месяцев назад +1

      With tapered bands, the weakest link is the connection at the pouch.
      But I saw a video where a Chinese wood and metal slingshot broke and it came back at him.
      "Fowlers" something was the channel.

  • @thcj3593
    @thcj3593 Месяц назад

    Latex war unterschiedlich lange gespannt 😢

  • @gblan
    @gblan Год назад +1

    What is the weight of the ammo you were using?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      This will apply to all bandsets matched to ammo but need to be trimmed. The ammo was the 7/16" steel ammo and the Standard Flat Bands 7/16" matched to the 7/16" steel ammo.

  • @jeffshearer5125
    @jeffshearer5125 10 месяцев назад

    Mabey i missed it ,what weight ammo was you shooting. Good video and information 👌

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  10 месяцев назад

      This was with the 7/16" bandset and ammo.

  • @datnotme9921
    @datnotme9921 Год назад

    ⚡👍⚡

  • @abdullahskht
    @abdullahskht Год назад +1

    I need one ?

  • @redneckewhitetrashbluecollar
    @redneckewhitetrashbluecollar Год назад +1

    Your ammo weight will effect all this as well .

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  Год назад

      This is assuming you have bands matched for the ammo weight that you are shooting, the results will be similar. If mismatched to the ammo lots of power can be lost. This test is with our Standard Flat Bands 7/16" using 7/16" Steel Ammo.

  • @Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv
    @Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv 3 месяца назад

    Size of bb used plz?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  3 месяца назад

      This was the Heavy Duty Flat Bands 7/16" with 7/16" Steel Ammo.

    • @Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv
      @Nsbsvwhwuiwbsv 3 месяца назад

      @@simpleshot
      Can I use heavier bands with those 11mm steel balls?
      Will it give more fps?

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  3 месяца назад

      You will need to test it. There are factors like outside air temperature that will affect the performance. Most of the time, the bands with the least amount of latex needed will shoot the fastest.

  • @Beanflip
    @Beanflip Год назад +1

    👍🏼😎👍🏼🏆🎯🎯🎯

  • @kevinmoran-ji2zl
    @kevinmoran-ji2zl Год назад

    Get good with a slingshot and put two in your bug out bag. Extra bands of course.

  • @walterdzukola2420
    @walterdzukola2420 8 месяцев назад

    The brand name of your chronograph, please ????

    • @simpleshot
      @simpleshot  8 месяцев назад

      It is a Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph.