Thanks Daniel! I just got an 1877 IHP from a garage sale hoard for dirt cheap, it is about a G-6.I was questioning its authenticity but in fact it does have the weak N on the reverse. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely precise . And Proofs are actually struck with the intention of the mint to coin out for the collector . Although some proofs have been introduced in circulation Thyre intended to not be a business strike .In by being struck for the collector , they are immaculate in all parts of the coin . The dies are routinely cleaned , examined before the striking periodically as opposed to common business strikes . In other words proofs are well taken observed and the coin should be flawless .
Omg, so glad I found you. Your videos are so helpful. You educate people on the real stuff, for example your video on how to find a dbl die. I was getting so frustrated trying to find one. You helped me so much. Warning newbies about places ripping people off. Thank You so much. You are so different than the other coin people on here. Love what you cover. Your Real !
Thanks for the information regarding 1877 Indian head coin This will save money time and aggravation for many people including me because l will never get anything from EBay or China for sure
I was left an 1877 mini Indian cent. I remember looking it up in a book and I thought I was rich. I forgot about it for about 20 years I use to tell everyone I had the best real fake And it had to be worth something. I realize it was about who gave it to me and the sentimental value It holds for me.
You make good point .It is rather a difficult process in evaluating coins . I do tend to think many truly simply just do not know it’s a fake and have posted it to sell and are honestly sincere and genuine in that person. But at the same time there are ones who knows it’s a fake and have posted it to sell and are methodically planned to take advantage of others and when irrevocably been proven wrong , they simply claim “ I didn’t know it was a fake “ . Those are absolutely the worst of people ever and they’re like a satan carnival in my bowels ending being flushed from existence. These ones makes the good ones like me , and you and many of us seem to be unreal in that they’re so convincing in themselves to be like us they never can be and are pissed off or jealous or envious because they can’t be . Pathetic is a good word to have in your lists of words to use in your vocabulary. Good job on this . It makes me proud to know there are still good folk out there .
Here is a point. Did you know there are people who SEEK OUT counterfeit coins? I know it sounds weird but it is true. Those people are taking the fakes out of the market. AND, they KNOW they are fake. To each his own I guess. I want the real thing. Thanks for educating us.
I can understand being attracted to them from a collectible standpoint, but trying to get them off the market would be like taking a bucket to stop a flood.
@@CoinHELPu thank you Daniel. Do you then go through eBay Resolution Center to get your money back? I got a 20c piece off eBay years ago for what I thought was a great deal but it turned out to be a fake. Unfortunately it took too long for me, an amateur, to figure it out and use the resolution center. It had to go through my credit card resolution & ultimately resolved in a court room. Daniel, stuff like this can destroy the hobby. I wish you could have sniped that 20c piece from me where I wouldn't have had to deal with the mess I did.
The difference between the fake & real (4:00) jumped out at me right away in seeing the Indian head's position to the date. The neck part of the head is much closer to the date in the fake when compared to the real one. That's the first difference I saw, and then the font & strike differences are less apparent but still noticeable.
With the Internet it's harder to scammed compared to people from the 80s and early 90s and older because we can just look it up on a phone as to where back then they go off what the professional coin dealer says
I see so many fake 1877s on ebay, about one a month. I always report them, usually let the seller know in case they were unaware. But I've never, ever seen one get taken down. (also was fun to see one of my Etsy listings get in the video)
Daniel yes sir I know I know I’ve mentioned before I truly need to get up with you through your website . It’s me at fault for I get lazy sometimes but have so much to offer in my coin collection since I started in the 1970s . Bear with me sir . I’ve set some time aside this Saturday . We shall see and I’m looking forward to meeting you . Thanks Daniel . I ( we) appreciate your time you take to help us all out and for that I have much gratitude and willingly hope to show my appreciation with good words said .
I am not open on Saturdays currently and you must send an email list of coins you want me to appraise or buy before coming in from out of town. I don't examine, attribute or buy ungraded mint errors.
@@CoinHELPu Thank you Daniel . Ok Yes sir I’ll do that . I will put together an email including attachments that may be useful in just by idea of quality and after reviewing I’ll set up an appointment that’s at a time convenient for you and schedule a flight and go from there . Thank you sir ., have a great day Daniel . Greatly Appreciating ….ag
Very true Daniel I was left a mercury one side / lincoln cent other side which looked legit but could not legitimize how this could happen at the mint,so I put it under my amscope and viola! the sectioning on third side became apparent . Will send it if you need to demo! Great video again! Rick
Hi Daniel The more I watch the more disillusioned I become with people in general - makes me sad - take a great hobby / investment and make it hard for the average person to just enjoy acquiring coins - instead as like so many other things, we have to constantly be wary and “look over our shoulders “ For the crooks & sheisters - thanx again for a very informative video -
Such is not the case, step back and see that my videos are your ally. My information gives you the armor and the weapons to fight and win against fraud and scams. I don't fall for them myself and anyone can get to that spot in their life.
I'm surprised that you didn't point out that if the bottom feather points between the C and A instead of I and C, the obverse would indicate that it was late 1886 or later. I've seen fakes that it pointed between the I and C, which would have been correct, but the N in ONE was strong. The guy who bought it knew Indian cents, but it was cheap and pretty. There's no way he would have paid full price for it. Some of the fakes you showed pointed between C and A, but I saw at least one in your photos that pointed between I and C.
It doesn't matter the coin is a blatant fake and the person who bought this, is not with us any longer but they didn't know Indian Cents or they would not have bought this obvious fake.
Daniel, this is STILL US currency although over 100 years old. Unless the coin is stamped FAKE or COPY, wouldnt this be an ILLEGAL counterfeit to sell within the US? Shouldnt legal pressure be made on whoever/wherever this is made to cease? This criminal activity burned me once in buying a counterfeit and may destroy the hobby.
There's not much that can be done, since there's no international laws for these and once someone owns it and don't know it's fake then you can't prove they were passing off counterfeit coins.
I will tend to collect fakes as well but I label them as counterfeit or altered and put them in an album or separate I like to use them or show others to what efforts are made to fool unsuspecting ones Thanks Daniel
A fake coin is no different than fake paper money. Secret Service wants to be notified if you have a fake. Last person holding the fake is responsible unless you can prove where you got it. To much info is not a good thing. Mums the word!
We call them thieves . One who knows it’s a fake but seeks his stupidity in others to revalue his own ego or pride salvage whats left of his pathetic impression others see
COUNTERFITTING CURRENCY IS AGENST FEDRAL LAW. IF I FOUND A COUNTERFIT DOLLAR BILL IN MY GRANDPAWS COIN COLLECTION WHEATHER I JUST FOUND IT OR MADE IT MYSELF THE FBI WILL CONSFATE IT AND INVESTAGATE IT AND ME TO BOOT. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WITH COUNTERFIT COINS.
No, not as long as you don't spend or or trying to make more, coins are the same but these are not being made in the US. There's no international laws to prosecute the makers.
Im getting older going to intentionally buy some fake coins to leave to my family after the time comes because they are greedy bastards and they will of course imeatially go to sell! Payback to the stuck up snobs!
No, they will sell them to someone who doesn't know better, make more money, so you will give them a chance to stick it to someone else and put more money in their pockets. Bad idea.
If you wanna know a big dealer whos sticking it to people visit kitty coins on ebay! She tue biggest coin scammer online! I tried to report her but ebay dont care seriously look at her unsearched coins for sale she pretty good at sewing up mint sewn bags and rolling up unsearched coins she makes big time money openly scaming!
I purchased several Indian head coins that I thought were high grade and bright red. After receiving the coins, I noticed one of the coins had a silver spot near the face- when i took the coin out of the holder, I noticed that the "red" came off as you rubbed the coin- it became silver. Is that a counterfeit coin? If so- should I report the seller to any particular agency? Joe
Thanks Daniel! I just got an 1877 IHP from a garage sale hoard for dirt cheap, it is about a G-6.I was questioning its authenticity but in fact it does have the weak N on the reverse. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely precise . And Proofs are actually struck with the intention of the mint to coin out for the collector . Although some proofs have been introduced in circulation Thyre intended to not be a business strike .In by being struck for the collector , they are immaculate in all parts of the coin . The dies are routinely cleaned , examined before the striking periodically as opposed to common business strikes . In other words proofs are well taken observed and the coin should be flawless .
The counterfeit looks cartoonish! Especially the date..... WOW! Until the comparison, I wouldn't have known it though!
Omg, so glad I found you. Your videos are so helpful. You educate people on the real stuff, for example your video on how to find a dbl die. I was getting so frustrated trying to find one. You helped me so much. Warning newbies about places ripping people off. Thank You so much. You are so different than the other coin people on here. Love what you cover. Your Real !
Thanks for the information regarding 1877 Indian head coin This will save money time and aggravation for many people including me because l will never get anything from EBay or China for sure
You're welcome
Good morning Daniel. Another great video. You are the man. Thank You
Thanks Daniel! You are a credit to the Hobby.
Thank you
Thanks for all the good information. The community appreciates it! 👍😃
I was left an 1877 mini Indian cent. I remember looking it up in a book and I thought I was rich. I forgot about it for about 20 years I use to tell everyone I had the best real fake And it had to be worth something. I realize it was about who gave it to me and the sentimental value It holds for me.
I was given a fake 1943 d copper cent. I will shown all about these China novelty items. It weighs correct and non magnetic
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Thank you
You make good point .It is rather a difficult process in evaluating coins . I do tend to think many truly simply just do not know it’s a fake and have posted it to sell and are honestly sincere and genuine in that person. But at the same time there are ones who knows it’s a fake and have posted it to sell and are methodically planned to take advantage of others and when irrevocably been proven wrong , they simply claim “ I didn’t know it was a fake “ . Those are absolutely the worst of people ever and they’re like a satan carnival in my bowels ending being flushed from existence. These ones makes the good ones like me , and you and many of us seem to be unreal in that they’re so convincing in themselves to be like us they never can be and are pissed off or jealous or envious because they can’t be .
Pathetic is a good word to have in your lists of words to use in your vocabulary.
Good job on this . It makes me proud to know there are still good folk out there .
Oh yes also congratulations on your latest award . And prized it is .
Thank you Daniel you did a good job
Here is a point. Did you know there are people who SEEK OUT counterfeit coins? I know it sounds weird but it is true. Those people are taking the fakes out of the market. AND, they KNOW they are fake. To each his own I guess. I want the real thing. Thanks for educating us.
I can understand being attracted to them from a collectible standpoint, but trying to get them off the market would be like taking a bucket to stop a flood.
I am one of them
@@CoinHELPu Another viewer said it was like trying to use a bucket to stop a flood. Well, at least it does have SOME effect. Thanks Daniel.
@@CoinHELPu thank you Daniel. Do you then go through eBay Resolution Center to get your money back? I got a 20c piece off eBay years ago for what I thought was a great deal but it turned out to be a fake. Unfortunately it took too long for me, an amateur, to figure it out and use the resolution center. It had to go through my credit card resolution & ultimately resolved in a court room. Daniel, stuff like this can destroy the hobby. I wish you could have sniped that 20c piece from me where I wouldn't have had to deal with the mess I did.
Yeah, I do agree with both of you. However I believe education is the key here since I don't think we can stop them.
Thanks
Gotta a 1944 d over d.It would've been easy to miss.Thanks to your videos I'm informed enough to catch it.
Great video. I love learning about the diagnostics!
Thanks for good information.
You're welcome
Thanks for you hard work !
Coins were very sharp in the 1800s -- almost computer like sharpness with precise sharp detail to letterings. China has been hard at work lately
The difference between the fake & real (4:00) jumped out at me right away in seeing the Indian head's position to the date. The neck part of the head is much closer to the date in the fake when compared to the real one. That's the first difference I saw, and then the font & strike differences are less apparent but still noticeable.
With the Internet it's harder to scammed compared to people from the 80s and early 90s and older because we can just look it up on a phone as to where back then they go off what the professional coin dealer says
Too much misinformation online, more than ever, and more people are getting scammed now than ever, so I do not agree.
Thanks Daniel. I need to tell my heirs this info. I appreciate all that you do for us.
Sharing your video on my page to help answer a question.
Thank you.
Happy too! Great video on a great coin. Keep the great content, I’ll try to do the same.
Daniel Thanks again for sharing the knowledge of all things coins.
Great Information!!
I see so many fake 1877s on ebay, about one a month. I always report them, usually let the seller know in case they were unaware. But I've never, ever seen one get taken down.
(also was fun to see one of my Etsy listings get in the video)
Education is important. Much to know. This is why you must always remember buyer beware. Crooks can be found everywhere.
MORE GOOD STUFF. THANKS.
Thank you
Thanks for another informative video Daniel!
Daniel yes sir I know I know I’ve mentioned before I truly need to get up with you through your website . It’s me at fault for I get lazy sometimes but have so much to offer in my coin collection since I started in the 1970s . Bear with me sir . I’ve set some time aside this Saturday . We shall see and I’m looking forward to meeting you . Thanks Daniel . I ( we) appreciate your time you take to help us all out and for that I have much gratitude and willingly hope to show my appreciation with good words said .
I am not open on Saturdays currently and you must send an email list of coins you want me to appraise or buy before coming in from out of town. I don't examine, attribute or buy ungraded mint errors.
@@CoinHELPu Thank you Daniel . Ok Yes sir I’ll do that . I will put together an email including attachments that may be useful in just by idea of quality and after reviewing I’ll set up an appointment that’s at a time convenient for you and schedule a flight and go from there . Thank you sir ., have a great day Daniel .
Greatly Appreciating ….ag
Something in poor condition can be counterfeit too
Very true Daniel I was left a mercury one side / lincoln cent other side which looked legit but could not legitimize how this could happen at the mint,so I put it under my amscope and viola! the sectioning on third side became apparent . Will send it if you need to demo! Great video again! Rick
Thanks. I have a two headed nickel and 1893 Dollar I used in a previous video.
It's sad to think how many people are left with counterfeit garbage.
Hi Daniel
The more I watch the more disillusioned I become with people in general - makes me sad - take a great hobby / investment and make it hard for the average person to just enjoy acquiring coins - instead as like so many other things, we have to constantly be wary and “look over our shoulders “
For the crooks & sheisters - thanx again for a very informative video -
Such is not the case, step back and see that my videos are your ally. My information gives you the armor and the weapons to fight and win against fraud and scams. I don't fall for them myself and anyone can get to that spot in their life.
Yeah I know , still wish we didn’t have those folks out their 😊 thanx learning a lot
Thank You, the internet goes after legit businesses not scams.
Seems like it. Google will display this junk then take down a legit coin values app for changing the name.
I'm surprised that you didn't point out that if the bottom feather points between the C and A instead of I and C, the obverse would indicate that it was late 1886 or later. I've seen fakes that it pointed between the I and C, which would have been correct, but the N in ONE was strong. The guy who bought it knew Indian cents, but it was cheap and pretty. There's no way he would have paid full price for it. Some of the fakes you showed pointed between C and A, but I saw at least one in your photos that pointed between I and C.
It doesn't matter the coin is a blatant fake and the person who bought this, is not with us any longer but they didn't know Indian Cents or they would not have bought this obvious fake.
I wonder how many of these are in rolls of Indian/Liberty cents in eBay. I am glad my youngest Sister knows coins.
Great info as always
Daniel, this is STILL US currency although over 100 years old. Unless the coin is stamped FAKE or COPY, wouldnt this be an ILLEGAL counterfeit to sell within the US? Shouldnt legal pressure be made on whoever/wherever this is made to cease? This criminal activity burned me once in buying a counterfeit and may destroy the hobby.
There's not much that can be done, since there's no international laws for these and once someone owns it and don't know it's fake then you can't prove they were passing off counterfeit coins.
Point taken sir, Thank you!
I will tend to collect fakes as well but I label them as counterfeit or altered and put them in an album or separate I like to use them or show others to what efforts are made to fool unsuspecting ones
Thanks Daniel
A fake coin is no different than fake paper money. Secret Service wants to be notified if you have a fake. Last person holding the fake is responsible unless you can prove where you got it. To much info is not a good thing. Mums the word!
Good job... thank you
We call them thieves . One who knows it’s a fake but seeks his stupidity in others to revalue his own ego or pride salvage whats left of his pathetic impression others see
Great info. Sir. thanks for all you do
You're welcome
I have to get something besides this phone. Thanks for the info
Hi Daniel. Couldn't the counterfeit image be showing a coin struck with a worn out die? Thanks for your work Bro!
No, the font isn't even close and no example of a worn out proof die, the mint retired the dies after so many strikes to prevent that from happening.
COUNTERFITTING CURRENCY IS AGENST FEDRAL LAW. IF I FOUND A COUNTERFIT DOLLAR BILL IN MY GRANDPAWS COIN COLLECTION WHEATHER I JUST FOUND IT OR MADE IT MYSELF THE FBI WILL CONSFATE IT AND INVESTAGATE IT AND ME TO BOOT. IT SHOULD BE THE SAME WITH COUNTERFIT COINS.
No, not as long as you don't spend or or trying to make more, coins are the same but these are not being made in the US. There's no international laws to prosecute the makers.
Im getting older going to intentionally buy some fake coins to leave to my family after the time comes because they are greedy bastards and they will of course imeatially go to sell! Payback to the stuck up snobs!
That’s hilarious lol
No, they will sell them to someone who doesn't know better, make more money, so you will give them a chance to stick it to someone else and put more money in their pockets. Bad idea.
If you wanna know a big dealer whos sticking it to people visit kitty coins on ebay! She tue biggest coin scammer online! I tried to report her but ebay dont care seriously look at her unsearched coins for sale she pretty good at sewing up mint sewn bags and rolling up unsearched coins she makes big time money openly scaming!
Its value
Good morning Dan.👍
I purchased several Indian head coins that I thought were high grade and bright red.
After receiving the coins, I noticed one of the coins had a silver spot near the face- when i took the coin out of the holder, I noticed that the "red" came off as you rubbed the coin- it became silver. Is that a counterfeit coin? If so- should I report the seller to any particular agency?
Joe
I could not answer your question based on no images and this information. The help community is here coinauctionshelp.com/forum/index.php
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Hi sir. Were we can aunthenticate our coin one cent 1877 us.
Were we can sell our old coin???
You can send it to ANACS coin grading, go to their website.
We don't need anymore Madoffs..ty Daniel
What's a madoff?
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Hi Myron aqo 1877 coin's
A fake counterfeit? Wouldn't that be a real coin then?
Fake-counterfeit