I hate it when people do that. For instance, my family immigrated here from Germany and I don’t consider myself German at all. Do you have a German passport? Do your parents or grandparents have one? If the answer is no, you aren’t German! Just say your American, we’re all mixed here
This tho! Expect my mother was born In Germany and came to the US with her family. I grew up with mixed cultures but most is still very American. Idk why people get so offended tbh. I grew up with more American culture, I'm American.
Who cares, they're not hurting anyone and it's weird asf to be gatekeepy over something so silly. Also silly to hate when people do it, doesn't effect you any lmao
Ya I’m Irish and if your family hasn’t been in Ireland in over 5 generations I’m sorry but you are only Irish by identity and you should not be talking about clans which feel out of fashion quite litterally thousands of years ago
As an Irish person (born and raised in Leinster and fully Irish roots etc) nobody has ever talked about clans and stuff At least know what you are talking about if you want to claim to be from Ireland
I’m Italian, my great grandpa lived there. I don’t claim to be only Italian, I’m American. But saying you’re Irish when your family from the 1800s came to the US from there is crazy because that’s over 100 years ago.
I mean I don’t say it like as if I lived in Italy. If my friends are talking about where our families are from I’d just say that I’m half Italian and that’s it.
Genealogy, environment, and culture are all different things. There are plenty of Italian Americans who still visit their Italian homeland and family, and keep their traditions, whereas maybe their cousin, who's equally genealogically as Italian, may have never set foot outside of the states- yet here, either can call themselves Italian and that's fine. America is made of immigrants, always has been, always will be. Only time it wasn't, it wasn't America. Therefore here, if you say you're 'x', 'y', or 'z'- we commonly understand your family is from there pre-US residency. No one I know that I take seriously says their family line is 'American' unless they're native.
She probably has about 3 percent Irish DNA based on the story, has never visited Ireland, and doesn't do traditions actual Irish people do based off the video (as someone who is actually Irish) it's not like she's actually engaged in her heritage it just makes her feel important which doesn't mean anything and doesn't make her irish
@minecraftnerd2175 so if it doesn't mean anything why do y'all care so much about what these people say and do, they're not hurting anyone and y'all just seem weird and cringe for having panties so twisted over it
Growing up in said culture is still different from visiting and learning about said culture from afar though. There's still going to be a disconnect there.
@@feliz695 Sure! I'm not saying there isn't. What I am saying is that in America, as all English speaking countries, we understand strings of words in different ways. 'Put a kettle on' means literally nothing to most of us. Outside of the US, saying 'I'm Irish' means you are literally a resident of Ireland, or at least were born or raised there. In America, saying 'I'm Irish' means that your roots come from there, be it one generation ago or twelve. The reason as to why is because america is a very very young country! A very old continent, with very old history, but very young to the 'I am a country' stage. When it went from a colony to a collection of colonies to a baby country, America wasn't fifty colonies large, or all English. We had French neighbors (still do, in Louisiana and Canada) Irish towns, a huge English influence, and, once, a very eager policy of welcoming immigrants. Every household on a single street could be filled with people from vastly different cultures, and introducing yourself, and your heritage, became a very American thing to do. One we still do. The issue that has arisen lately is that some people are simply unaware the rest of the world doesn't do things this way, and get confused or upset when that's challenged, refuted, or denied, because we don't define it the same as others.
Yes but the Irish roots are from several generations ago and this is coming from someone who's great-grandfather(on my dad's side) was Irish but I don't consider myself Irish because I'm not I'm English because my family on almost every other branch of the tree is English and even them my dad has a very Irish name but he's the least Irish person I know but obviously their very slight Irish heritage clearly means alot to the girl so good for her
Irish person here - So many Americans say they have relatives going back ~100 years and swear they’re Irish because of it but make zero effort to engage in the culture or traditions. That is why we say they aren’t Irish. A lot of them do not know our history, do not know our culture, never stepped foot on our soil, do not know anything and don’t try to know but still make it their entire personality that someone 150 years ago in their bloodline came from here. 🤦♂️
@@damhraand how exactly does that effect you? Lmao it's a no harm thing and tbh, should be a no one cares thing but here we are with a comment section full of weirdos
Roots don’t make you something. Were you born in the country? Are your direct parents or grandparents from that country? Do you have a passport of the country? Can you even speak/understand the language? No? You ain’t from there.
I hate ot when people just claim that they are a culture when like their great great great great great great great great great great grandparent where that. Like stop claiming them.
My dad's side is German American like unironically would only marry German families or immigrants till the 70's and they have been here since before the USA was technically a country, so yea I totally get it. Very much when you are an American your identity is not simply ah "American" you are also trying to hold onto a different land to be part of your cultural heritage since the USA is very young. That's why that kind of sentiment has basically morphed into state pride.
I think shes taking this a bit to seriously but I also claim to be Welsh and Scandinavian but thats because my great grandmother, (who was alive for my entire childhood) moved to the US from Wales and had parents of both sides, and would tell me all sorts of stories and teach me old traditions, and she would even teach me some of the languages, ive never been outside of US but i feel very close to my ancestors, it's fine if im not close enough but im happy with what i believe (Im not claiming to ONLY be those either im also Native American and Persian)
I’m Irish and I absolutely love that joke we do different versions of it in school and all that I have American relatives and I told them the joke they thought it was funny
i’m of native american heritage about four generations back on my moms side. it’s a pride thing, from my experience. a lot of people just want to be different and say “oh, i’m irish” even when their ancestors came to the states 100 years go. i don’t introduce my heritage with “oh im native american” because 1. i don’t look it, i don’t follow their traditions, and 2. im just a goddamn american. the us is a melting pot. so many people are german and irish and italian and hispanic that it doesn’t even matter where you’re from at this point. everybody just wants to have something unique about themselves
unfortunately (as an american) this happens a ton. and ffs its annoying. a arrogant kid in my culinary class is constantly bragging that he’s irish and even sings (more like horribly yells) scottish and irish songs edit: I wanna say this. I am not german. I have german ancestry my great grandparents on my mom’s side were german. I am not. I was not born in germany. And I have no family in germany or from germany explicitly. Being German is VERY DIFFERENT from having german ANCESTORS.
If you weren't born and/or raised in that country, youre not from that country (nationality wise) of course you can immigrate and theregore become a citizen but thats the only way OPs girlfriend could be anywhere close to being irish. Especially 180 years ago she probably has more of another country's ancestry in her than irish.
My Opa Lived in Holland and my Oma in Scotland but I don’t consider myself Dutch or Scottish, and that was only 60 years ago they came to my birth country. 170 years and claiming to be Irish is nuts
Well she isn't Irish. she is american. Why Americans have this identity crisis? Its fascinating to me because other people try so hard to be american and American are trying to be something else.
i've got some irish blood from my moms side of the family, but like from a 100 or so years ago, i'm not going around claiming Y'ALL LOOK AT ME I'M IRISH!!! (although my dad thinks i got my Alcohol tolerance from that side of the family, i can drink my entire family under the table)
I am from Ireland and I am fully Irish when I went to America I met 10 people that have Irish roots I really wanted to say to their face that I don't care😅
bruhhh..... my great great great grandparents and other family during those time were from Cambodia , Myanmar and even France but i dont say im from those countries. i say im thai, my parents are thai, both of my parents sides are thai. just because you have an ancestor from another country doesn't mean you are from that country too!!!
If you are born in America, you are an American. If you never been too or lived in that country for a year or more. Then how can you claim you are that country. You might have ancestors from that country. But you are not from that country.
She just wasn't Irish. The US is the only place where people claim nationalities as if they were ethnicities. I'm Brazilian, and every one of us is mix-raced, but I've never heard someone with an Italian heritage say they're Italian (cus they aren't!!!). Once I heard an American girl saying she was Brazilian, and the fact that she said that while not speaking a word of Portuguese really baffled me 😂
I speak portugese, both my parents are Brazilian, I'm a Brazilian citizen, HOWEVER I wa born and live in Brazil my whole life, so I consider myself an American. I want to hear from Brazilians that aren't my family (who all also live in Brazil that I visit thrice a year) would you consider me brazilian or American?
@Insertcoolhandlehere_ Hey there. I think your situation is very different. If you have a Brazilian citizenship, speak Portuguese, and come to Brazil three times a year, you can probably say you are Brazilian. However, most Brazilians speak of nationality meaning the country where you were born, so by that rule, you would be considered an American by most people here. I think in your case you can say that you are American, but also a Brazilian citizen (so you're essentially both, but mostly American😅) We don't consider "brazilian" to be an ethnicity because we are a very mixed country, and every person here has a diverse genetic background. That's why we use the term "Brazilian" to talk about the nationally of someone born here. However, since you hold the citizenship and remain connected to the country and the culture, I'd say that você com certeza é brasileira 😊 americana e brasileira 🇧🇷🇺🇲
@@Bela.r.20 eu achei que sim!! I guess I'll just have to explain my situation. I understand how Brazil is a verh mixed country. Thank you só much for answering! Ive beem needing an answer from a new pov
Yea but it's probably your parents right? But the famine was around 1850. That's probably her great great great grandparents so she only has about three present DNA, where as if your parents are Mexican you share 59 percent dna with each. And if you only have 3% Mexican DNA then your not Mexican either
So shes part irish i still like finding out what percentage of things you are cus its cool but i know even tho i was born in America im atleast 30 percent Mexican
I am not from Ireland but I am Irish my great grandparents are from there but if someone ask me what mu ethnicity is I say Irish same thing for my Lebanese side of the family my other great grandparents are from there to but I am not going on and on and on how i am Irish or Lebanese
People in other countries don't breakdown into ethnic groups like in the US. Such as African American, Asian American, Native American, Latino American, or European American. In most European countries your just British, French, etc. Not African French, or Asian British. That's the difference. Nobody says I'm American, they always put their ancestry first then American. For example many people from Africa don't consider Americans of African descent to be African, because Americans don't have any of the cultural connections to Africa other than their ancestors came from there.
Who the European accept is there business. But your statement on African Americans is just plan false. The culture of enslaved Africans had a huge impact on the African American culture today and that's simply fact. Down to the music like Rythms and Blues, to the Negro Spirituals, to dance, to hairstyles to food to dialet like AAVE etc. Prime example are the Gullah people of the south. Their dialect as direct ties to Sierra Leone. Many Africans in fact do claim African Americans to an extent as well. That's why Ghana had the "Year of the Return" inviting African Americans to come settle there.
I’m half Dutch because my dad is Dutch. Saying you’re Irish because one of your ancestors from the 1800s was is just stupid
@@Hollopixi yeah
*1817 the Irish famine
@@C00lguy-r16 1817 is part of the 1800s tho? Stop trying to “urm actually” someone who got it right-
I hate it when people do that. For instance, my family immigrated here from Germany and I don’t consider myself German at all. Do you have a German passport? Do your parents or grandparents have one? If the answer is no, you aren’t German! Just say your American, we’re all mixed here
This tho! Expect my mother was born In Germany and came to the US with her family. I grew up with mixed cultures but most is still very American. Idk why people get so offended tbh. I grew up with more American culture, I'm American.
I guess I kinda count my grandpa and grandma on both sides came from Germany ( sorry great parents)
Who cares, they're not hurting anyone and it's weird asf to be gatekeepy over something so silly. Also silly to hate when people do it, doesn't effect you any lmao
@@bunnyg4464 I wouldn't care unless the person acts like they know more about the culture than a person who actually lived in said culture.
Ya I’m Irish and if your family hasn’t been in Ireland in over 5 generations I’m sorry but you are only Irish by identity and you should not be talking about clans which feel out of fashion quite litterally thousands of years ago
As an Irish person (born and raised in Leinster and fully Irish roots etc) nobody has ever talked about clans and stuff
At least know what you are talking about if you want to claim to be from Ireland
I’m Italian, my great grandpa lived there. I don’t claim to be only Italian, I’m American. But saying you’re Irish when your family from the 1800s came to the US from there is crazy because that’s over 100 years ago.
You just did claim to be italian though.
I mean I don’t say it like as if I lived in Italy. If my friends are talking about where our families are from I’d just say that I’m half Italian and that’s it.
You're not Italian. Your great grandad being Italian means you have like 1/8th Italian ancestry. You're basically just the same as OPs girlfriend.
Are we not gonna mention how she hated the thought of being compared to trans people?
why wouldnt she? if u compared a trans person to a straight person they would be considered homophobic, double standards go crazy.
@maigfx what? Sexuality and gender are different things, so why would you think someone would think it to be homophobic?
@Gendernt-Mc-Silly I mean who wouldn’t be angry if they were compared to a trans person.
@@maigfxgender isn’t sexuality pookie.
cus gender & ethnicity r 2 diff things ??? does tht ring bell ??? no need to make everything bout LGBT bro 😭
“she acted like i just insulted her family, her origin, and her entire heritage” u kinda did brother 😭😭
Genealogy, environment, and culture are all different things. There are plenty of Italian Americans who still visit their Italian homeland and family, and keep their traditions, whereas maybe their cousin, who's equally genealogically as Italian, may have never set foot outside of the states- yet here, either can call themselves Italian and that's fine. America is made of immigrants, always has been, always will be. Only time it wasn't, it wasn't America. Therefore here, if you say you're 'x', 'y', or 'z'- we commonly understand your family is from there pre-US residency. No one I know that I take seriously says their family line is 'American' unless they're native.
She probably has about 3 percent Irish DNA based on the story, has never visited Ireland, and doesn't do traditions actual Irish people do based off the video (as someone who is actually Irish) it's not like she's actually engaged in her heritage it just makes her feel important which doesn't mean anything and doesn't make her irish
This!!
@minecraftnerd2175 so if it doesn't mean anything why do y'all care so much about what these people say and do, they're not hurting anyone and y'all just seem weird and cringe for having panties so twisted over it
Growing up in said culture is still different from visiting and learning about said culture from afar though. There's still going to be a disconnect there.
@@feliz695 Sure! I'm not saying there isn't. What I am saying is that in America, as all English speaking countries, we understand strings of words in different ways. 'Put a kettle on' means literally nothing to most of us.
Outside of the US, saying 'I'm Irish' means you are literally a resident of Ireland, or at least were born or raised there. In America, saying 'I'm Irish' means that your roots come from there, be it one generation ago or twelve.
The reason as to why is because america is a very very young country! A very old continent, with very old history, but very young to the 'I am a country' stage. When it went from a colony to a collection of colonies to a baby country, America wasn't fifty colonies large, or all English. We had French neighbors (still do, in Louisiana and Canada) Irish towns, a huge English influence, and, once, a very eager policy of welcoming immigrants. Every household on a single street could be filled with people from vastly different cultures, and introducing yourself, and your heritage, became a very American thing to do. One we still do.
The issue that has arisen lately is that some people are simply unaware the rest of the world doesn't do things this way, and get confused or upset when that's challenged, refuted, or denied, because we don't define it the same as others.
i’m irish and i find this whole thing kinda weird. she has irish roots but i wouldn’t say she’s irish. she definitely overreacted
She’s irsh, she’s just mixed? Y’all realize you can be from America and have irsh roots right..?
Yes but the Irish roots are from several generations ago and this is coming from someone who's great-grandfather(on my dad's side) was Irish but I don't consider myself Irish because I'm not I'm English because my family on almost every other branch of the tree is English and even them my dad has a very Irish name but he's the least Irish person I know but obviously their very slight Irish heritage clearly means alot to the girl so good for her
You can but that would make you "American with Irish roots".
Irish person here - So many Americans say they have relatives going back ~100 years and swear they’re Irish because of it but make zero effort to engage in the culture or traditions. That is why we say they aren’t Irish. A lot of them do not know our history, do not know our culture, never stepped foot on our soil, do not know anything and don’t try to know but still make it their entire personality that someone 150 years ago in their bloodline came from here. 🤦♂️
@@damhraand how exactly does that effect you? Lmao it's a no harm thing and tbh, should be a no one cares thing but here we are with a comment section full of weirdos
Roots don’t make you something.
Were you born in the country? Are your direct parents or grandparents from that country? Do you have a passport of the country? Can you even speak/understand the language? No? You ain’t from there.
I hate ot when people just claim that they are a culture when like their great great great great great great great great great great grandparent where that. Like stop claiming them.
She transphobic too?
Help what
Being mad at someone telling you, you have an identity problem is not transphobic 💀
I don't think so
HUH who said that???
like i said . THIS STORY ISNT BOUT THT , GENDER & ETHNICITY R 2 DIFF THINGS . SO IT MAKES NO SENSE
My dad's side is German American like unironically would only marry German families or immigrants till the 70's and they have been here since before the USA was technically a country, so yea I totally get it. Very much when you are an American your identity is not simply ah "American" you are also trying to hold onto a different land to be part of your cultural heritage since the USA is very young. That's why that kind of sentiment has basically morphed into state pride.
I think shes taking this a bit to seriously
but I also claim to be Welsh and Scandinavian but thats because my great grandmother, (who was alive for my entire childhood) moved to the US from Wales and had parents of both sides, and would tell me all sorts of stories and teach me old traditions, and she would even teach me some of the languages, ive never been outside of US but i feel very close to my ancestors, it's fine if im not close enough but im happy with what i believe
(Im not claiming to ONLY be those either im also Native American and Persian)
“From the uk” how much u wanna bet hes black?
At least 100 bucks
I’m Irish and I absolutely love that joke we do different versions of it in school and all that I have American relatives and I told them the joke they thought it was funny
i’m of native american heritage about four generations back on my moms side. it’s a pride thing, from my experience. a lot of people just want to be different and say “oh, i’m irish” even when their ancestors came to the states 100 years go. i don’t introduce my heritage with “oh im native american” because 1. i don’t look it, i don’t follow their traditions, and 2. im just a goddamn american.
the us is a melting pot. so many people are german and irish and italian and hispanic that it doesn’t even matter where you’re from at this point. everybody just wants to have something unique about themselves
Ok but bro fumbled insanely
unfortunately (as an american) this happens a ton. and ffs its annoying. a arrogant kid in my culinary class is constantly bragging that he’s irish and even sings (more like horribly yells) scottish and irish songs
edit: I wanna say this. I am not german. I have german ancestry my great grandparents on my mom’s side were german. I am not. I was not born in germany. And I have no family in germany or from germany explicitly. Being German is VERY DIFFERENT from having german ANCESTORS.
If you weren't born and/or raised in that country, youre not from that country (nationality wise) of course you can immigrate and theregore become a citizen but thats the only way OPs girlfriend could be anywhere close to being irish. Especially 180 years ago she probably has more of another country's ancestry in her than irish.
My Opa Lived in Holland and my Oma in Scotland but I don’t consider myself Dutch or Scottish, and that was only 60 years ago they came to my birth country. 170 years and claiming to be Irish is nuts
Not to mention only 2 generations ago instead of at least 6
I feel like you can’t claim it if you don’t even visit the “mother land”
Well she isn't Irish. she is american. Why Americans have this identity crisis? Its fascinating to me because other people try so hard to be american and American are trying to be something else.
Instead of saying you’re Irish, just say you have Irish heritage.
i've got some irish blood from my moms side of the family, but like from a 100 or so years ago, i'm not going around claiming Y'ALL LOOK AT ME I'M IRISH!!!
(although my dad thinks i got my Alcohol tolerance from that side of the family, i can drink my entire family under the table)
My ancestors came from Sweden I'm not swedish because that was 150 years ago. And that's the last one that probably step foot in Sweden
I am from Ireland and I am fully Irish when I went to America I met 10 people that have Irish roots I really wanted to say to their face that I don't care😅
Why do in America people not are only American's most of the population is mixed or have migrant relative/ancestors
bruhhh..... my great great great grandparents and other family during those time were from Cambodia , Myanmar and even France but i dont say im from those countries. i say im thai, my parents are thai, both of my parents sides are thai. just because you have an ancestor from another country doesn't mean you are from that country too!!!
If you are born in America, you are an American. If you never been too or lived in that country for a year or more. Then how can you claim you are that country. You might have ancestors from that country. But you are not from that country.
She just wasn't Irish. The US is the only place where people claim nationalities as if they were ethnicities. I'm Brazilian, and every one of us is mix-raced, but I've never heard someone with an Italian heritage say they're Italian (cus they aren't!!!). Once I heard an American girl saying she was Brazilian, and the fact that she said that while not speaking a word of Portuguese really baffled me 😂
I speak portugese, both my parents are Brazilian, I'm a Brazilian citizen, HOWEVER I wa born and live in Brazil my whole life, so I consider myself an American. I want to hear from Brazilians that aren't my family (who all also live in Brazil that I visit thrice a year) would you consider me brazilian or American?
@Insertcoolhandlehere_ Hey there. I think your situation is very different. If you have a Brazilian citizenship, speak Portuguese, and come to Brazil three times a year, you can probably say you are Brazilian.
However, most Brazilians speak of nationality meaning the country where you were born, so by that rule, you would be considered an American by most people here. I think in your case you can say that you are American, but also a Brazilian citizen (so you're essentially both, but mostly American😅)
We don't consider "brazilian" to be an ethnicity because we are a very mixed country, and every person here has a diverse genetic background. That's why we use the term "Brazilian" to talk about the nationally of someone born here. However, since you hold the citizenship and remain connected to the country and the culture, I'd say that você com certeza é brasileira 😊 americana e brasileira 🇧🇷🇺🇲
@@Bela.r.20 eu achei que sim!! I guess I'll just have to explain my situation. I understand how Brazil is a verh mixed country. Thank you só much for answering! Ive beem needing an answer from a new pov
If you hear my great great them they arent a true (insert place)
Ask her to name 20 countries and see if she can name them
I'm Irish a bit bc my dad is Irish and I look Irish
Now idk if I'm half colombian, my mother and all her family is and my father and his family are spanish xD (i was born in spain)
guys im 0.0000000000000000.0000000000000000001% black
NI-
She is Irish?? I'm confused 😭🙏 I'm Mexican but I've never stepped foot in Mexico. That doesn't mean I'm not Mexican though. What is he going on abt 💀
Yea but it's probably your parents right? But the famine was around 1850. That's probably her great great great grandparents so she only has about three present DNA, where as if your parents are Mexican you share 59 percent dna with each. And if you only have 3% Mexican DNA then your not Mexican either
Yh but you prob have someone related to you born in Mexico. The last person born in Ireland from her family was 1850. That's more than 100 years ago
Thats not the issue here. It's that she claims to be Irish when she's only like 3% Irish. She's far too removed from the culture she's claiming to be.
Her Irish ancestors come from two million years ago. The rest of them are not Irish.
Si eres mexicano, hablas español? Curiosidad
So shes part irish i still like finding out what percentage of things you are cus its cool but i know even tho i was born in America im atleast 30 percent Mexican
The sentance on trans people made it seem as though they think trans men arnt real man and ect
I’m a 1/4 Japanese, and I get wanting to know more about your heritage, but this seems a little excessive
She wasn't Irish tho XDDD
She is not Irish.
She’s a red flag bc who thinks like that
Fr
Hol up my great great great grandfather came from Ireland maxwell town I think it’s called I wonder if whoever if they even exist possible relatives
Just say you’re Irish American
I'm irish
I am not from Ireland but I am Irish my great grandparents are from there but if someone ask me what mu ethnicity is I say Irish same thing for my Lebanese side of the family my other great grandparents are from there to but I am not going on and on and on how i am Irish or Lebanese
😊😊🎉🎉🎉 sehr lecker
People in other countries don't breakdown into ethnic groups like in the US.
Such as African American, Asian American, Native American, Latino American, or European American.
In most European countries your just British, French, etc.
Not African French, or Asian British. That's the difference. Nobody says I'm American, they always put their ancestry first then American.
For example many people from Africa don't consider Americans of African descent to be African, because Americans don't have any of the cultural connections to Africa other than their ancestors came from there.
Who the European accept is there business. But your statement on African Americans is just plan false. The culture of enslaved Africans had a huge impact on the African American culture today and that's simply fact. Down to the music like Rythms and Blues, to the Negro Spirituals, to dance, to hairstyles to food to dialet like AAVE etc. Prime example are the Gullah people of the south. Their dialect as direct ties to Sierra Leone. Many Africans in fact do claim African Americans to an extent as well. That's why Ghana had the "Year of the Return" inviting African Americans to come settle there.
This is not true as someone who was born in France and moved to the UK 13 years later while being ethnically West African.