Personally I feel like it's leg drive is the issue, I thought I couldn't get 355 off the ground. Once I learned how to use the legs properly though, I did it for three reps.
@@jc.barquinero It means trying to use your legs as much as possible, rather than your back. A good example of this to the extreme is a stiff legged deadlift vs conventional. With a stiff legged, you can't use as much of your legs which is why you would be weaker on it. The conventional deadlift on the other hand allows you to get further down, which recruits more glutes/hams as well as your quads off the ground. Many people say a good cue is to imagine driving your heels through the floor when deadlifting.
At my strongest, my squat was about 95% of my deadlift. Most of my athletes can squat 80-90% of their deadlift. Never had a client who could do a FULL squat that was heavier than their deadlift, when both lifts are trained.
There are plenty of Olympic Weightlifters who've squatted more than they've ever pulled (myself included). This guy could be squatting high bar, have short legs and be quad dominant. Plenty of weightlifters are. Though if he's following Starting Strength, maybe not...
@@raptors4444 I know there are people who can do it, I'm just saying I've never had one of my athletes do it. At least, not that I can recall of the top of my head.
@lonelee I didn't start deadlifting until after high school. The first time I ever deadlifted I did 275, and that was the only time my squat was bigger.
Rip. When would you program a 20 rep squat program? The old classic began with behind the neck press. I much prefer your Suggs style press. Would you demonstrate how straight the wrist should be on the press, and elbows at the top?
I have the opposite problem. 500 deadlift, 380 squat. Long femurs and my torso leans super far forward in a deep squat. Going to address the issue once I milk my pull for all it’s worth this bulking season, ideally 520-530.
I know exactly what vienna sausages are as they've made a great snack while I've been on keto. I have however learned natural peanut butter and just plain peanuts are even better and similar in macro nutrient composition, with the extra benefit of peanuts being a lot better micro nutrient wise. They're also more satisfying. Stuff like boiled/deviled eggs are as well.
@@suvamsivam4136 I've been sitting here contemplating that very issue right now. Going on my past experiences it's been very successful for temporary weight loss but never for strength training. I'm putting off going back to the gym until I've lost my goal weight but it's extremely slow and it's kinda miserable. At the same time I really don't see the point in eating reasonably and going back to the gym, putting more fat on during LP and then having to tediously cut while hopefully maintaining those gains. All that is IF they don't release a "2nd wave" of COVID in the fall and close the gym again. And I'm not getting fat.
my best Deadlift was 600 and best squat was 545 high bar. Just started 2 monthd ago after a few years off and both my squat and deadlift are around 525. its weird
I have same challenge as I can squat way heavier and leg press way more than deadlift because of hamstring.glute and low back not as strong as my quads.
Here's a novel idea for Frank. When going for a "pr" and you can't get it up, back off the weight until you do. Master that weight and then and only then add more weight to the bar.
Sounds like his starting position in the DL is off, or he may need to do some deficit pulls at submax to work on getting off of the ground... maybe both.
My deadlifts plateaued at 280 lbs because I have a smooth barbell sleeve, and above that weight the bar tends to slip out of my hands.... I guess I need to get some chalk.
I'm doing five by five on the deadlift and I am progressing fine. Ten pounds added every workout. I also just started a month in so will see how fast I plateau. I don't understand the logic of doing accessories do get a better deadlift, I think you should be deadlifting If you want to improve your deadlift.
The most I squatted was 190KG while the most I deadlifted was 140KG. My arms are too short for the deadlifts it feels annoying, also look at Bob Peoples he deadlifted 4 times his bodyweight that even strongest men Paul Anderson and Hepburn couldn't beat.
The easiest answer is that people are built different. Why can some people bench a ton and some people have to work forever to build it? Why do some people have certain developed body parts and others never will? Does the person asking this question not have the internet because he could answer all these questions himself....
I would venture that your median Vietnamese sausage is quite a bit better than a Vienna sausage. Vienna sausages are highly processed and kind of suck.
Funny. I'm 53 and my squat is better than my dead. I have short arms and legs : ) Back in the day I used to bench almost what I squatted. Of course I was not low bar squatting as I was a bodybuilder. Low bar squats are awesome.
@Frank Burjan No question. There were some hip issues, but I mainly got into a groove where I was using my legs for slow-twitch work and my upper body for fast-twitch. I'm seeing some progress now that I'm working the big compound lifts.
@Frank Burjan Those are my main focus (along with vertical and horizontal pulls). I'm not a power lifter, but I'd like a better balance between lower and upper body. I've worked on mobility through the pelvis, and I can now get to parallel or slightly below on the squat. Now it's all about getting low and letting the muscle get acclimated.
Chalk, Hook Grip - Double Over Hand, setup and bloody rip it! Use straps if you are doing 3x5 or 5x5 at bigger weights to save your hands from getting ripped up but still lifting good weight
@@everydaywarriors you spare your advice 😂 2 year old comment... Worked for me, I've done a 250kg low bar squat since then, bench is 140kg+ and DL over 200kg+... You know, real life natty not internet juicey numbers. I'd say 5x5 worked a treat during covid and 2023
is their a biological reason that some lifts feel more fun and makes us more excited than other lifts that might be connected to the neuro-muscle connection being Better in those muscle groups, better fired up so to speak, used in that lift than the muscle groups used in other lifts you feel more troubled with both technically and also for developing in purely strength-wise? I kind of hate my deadlifts but love my shoulder presses no matter what day in the week I do them! 🤷🏼♂️feels like a I get mentally pumped doing shoulder presses but reach mental fatigue and get tired quickly doing deadlifts... just wonder how a good Neuro-muscular connection plays a role in also getting more positive mental energy... 🤔 thanks! :)
Vinny Viennese had a problem. When he would set-up to do deadlifts his stubby fingers would freak out and poke him in his eyes! Why? Because his whey and ways weren't right..
I've got short arms and stubby fingers and even though my back starts out pretty much horizontal in a conventional deadlift I can still pull more than I can squat. The only people I've ever seen legitimately squatting more than they can pull are bullshitting their squat in some way (shit depth and/or getting a lot of help from lifting gear).
Lots of reasons you could be lagging. Maybe the dude is a lot larger than you, for instance. But if you're 20 and have been training for "years," I'd expect you to be pulling at least double your bodyweight by now. The numbers he gave (369 deadlift, 390-something squat) are not super awesome even for a 53-year-old.
@@geoffbischoff816 been lifting for 2.5 years 6ft2 196lbs and only have a 264 squat ; 352 dl ; 126ohp ans 176 bench for 5 , i'm still trying to gain weight but don't know why i struggle so much
@@im_reyz8780 First, good on you for sticking with it and continuing to try. Second, you're young. You're an adult, but my body was still developing into my 20s. Third, and probably most important, get a good coach. I'm not a certified coach in any method (though I try to help friends, and I use the Starting Strength method when I coach novice friends). I coach a friend who is your same height and weight (but he's 30) who has gone, since January 2020, from 105-370 (squat), 175-375 (deadlift), 65-150 (ohp), 105-260 (bench). That's 8 months of work, brother. As a coach I expect I'm Grade C at best. Find yourself a Grade A coach. For certifications, I'd trust anyone with a SSC cert to get me strong quickly *if I complied with the program.* Go kick ass man.
Wtf is the basis for deadlifts being heavier than squats. DL require hands keeping hold of weights, bending forward and lifting off the ground from standing. A huge awkward movement compared to squatting. Squat requires LEGS, loading the shoulders, and going up and down. No grip strength fighting gravity. Like basic mechanics say squats should ALWAYS be heavier. I feel like I'm the only one who sees this shit.
Chrontard i pull sumo pre corona at 225 kg with straps after that i stopped training for a month and i restarted at 140kg its more like detraining and recently hit a front squat pr At 165 kg lul
@@Captainrave Dave Waddington (first man to squat 1000 in competition), Ed Coan (the greatest ever), Rickey Crain and a man I trained with in Virginia in the early 80's John Gamble, the number 1 ranked 275lb. lifter for two years.They all squatted MORE than they deadlifted. I could go on and on. For me to say it's "common" doesn't mean that it's the majority. Those are two different words with different meanings but I could hardly expect a person that uses "ain't" to know that.
That’s normal for squat to be heavier than deadlift. In squat your muscles coil up on the way down while in DL you start from the dead stop with muscles not coiled up. Most powerlifters have squat bigger than their deadlift with only a couple of exceptions. Beginners usually tend to have their deadlift heavier than squat because it’s more common movement, people are used to lift stuff off the ground at home or at work.
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"Deadlifts are hard Frank. Sometimes you gotta pull at them even if you don't want to, that's how they go up". Man RIP is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
deadlifts are brutal!
I noticed the little guy in the top-right corner.
It’s so random 😂
"sometimes you got to pull on it when you don't want to", we have all been there before.
"Do people still know what those are?". Classic
I enjoy how hilarious rip finds it that people aren't using chalk
I'm worried about my abs, but should I be more worried that I can press more than I deadlift?
yes, im not sure why thats even a question
@@lequack7130 Because it's hilarious
Just keep adding 5# to the deadlift and 10# to the press each cycle 😂🍻
I can shoulder press more than squat. Does it count as squat if I'm upside down?
I can curl more than I can my deadlift.
Personally I feel like it's leg drive is the issue, I thought I couldn't get 355 off the ground. Once I learned how to use the legs properly though, I did it for three reps.
What does this mean
@@jc.barquinero It means trying to use your legs as much as possible, rather than your back. A good example of this to the extreme is a stiff legged deadlift vs conventional. With a stiff legged, you can't use as much of your legs which is why you would be weaker on it. The conventional deadlift on the other hand allows you to get further down, which recruits more glutes/hams as well as your quads off the ground. Many people say a good cue is to imagine driving your heels through the floor when deadlifting.
2:58. Rip can barely get the words out.
The most genuine laugh I've ever seen in my life.
Vietnamese sausages...
Mmm Mmm love me some Vietnamese sausages
Please note that here is nothing about sexual intercourse or trans sexuality implied, don't even know why anybody would come up with this.
what are they??
Isn't Vietnamese sausage dog penis?
To be fair - nem nuong is delicious
Mark Rippetoe is my favourite comedian.
‘Deadlifts are hard...ya gotta keeping pulling even when you don’t want to...’.
At my strongest, my squat was about 95% of my deadlift. Most of my athletes can squat 80-90% of their deadlift. Never had a client who could do a FULL squat that was heavier than their deadlift, when both lifts are trained.
There are plenty of Olympic Weightlifters who've squatted more than they've ever pulled (myself included). This guy could be squatting high bar, have short legs and be quad dominant. Plenty of weightlifters are. Though if he's following Starting Strength, maybe not...
@@raptors4444 I know there are people who can do it, I'm just saying I've never had one of my athletes do it. At least, not that I can recall of the top of my head.
@lonelee I didn't start deadlifting until after high school. The first time I ever deadlifted I did 275, and that was the only time my squat was bigger.
It's very possible if the person's grip is weak. Alot of elite powerlifters have higher squats than deads.
my parralel squat is about 5lbs heavier than my deadlift right now. Around 530 and 525. But I just started 2 months ago again
Meh, I don't feel like deadlifting today. *drops dead lift*
"Goddamn it Frank. It's not a mic!"
RIP is a real treasure
Rip. When would you program a 20 rep squat program? The old classic began with behind the neck press. I much prefer your Suggs style press. Would you demonstrate how straight the wrist should be on the press, and elbows at the top?
I curl more than I squat is that normal?
There are a third group that squats more than they deadlift; over weight lifters with a power belly
I have the opposite problem. 500 deadlift, 380 squat. Long femurs and my torso leans super far forward in a deep squat. Going to address the issue once I milk my pull for all it’s worth this bulking season, ideally 520-530.
On the deadlift Sometimes I can't lift what I already lift on my previous session
Is that can happen ??
I wish my dad lifted with his absurd proportions. 6'4. Giant hands. Long gorilla arms. Stubby legs. Super long torso.
I know exactly what vienna sausages are as they've made a great snack while I've been on keto. I have however learned natural peanut butter and just plain peanuts are even better and similar in macro nutrient composition, with the extra benefit of peanuts being a lot better micro nutrient wise. They're also more satisfying. Stuff like boiled/deviled eggs are as well.
Keto is unnecessary tho . You could lose weight more comfortably by eating carbs.
@@suvamsivam4136 I've been sitting here contemplating that very issue right now. Going on my past experiences it's been very successful for temporary weight loss but never for strength training. I'm putting off going back to the gym until I've lost my goal weight but it's extremely slow and it's kinda miserable.
At the same time I really don't see the point in eating reasonably and going back to the gym, putting more fat on during LP and then having to tediously cut while hopefully maintaining those gains. All that is IF they don't release a "2nd wave" of COVID in the fall and close the gym again.
And I'm not getting fat.
By high squat do you mean high bar or not going down far enough?
my best Deadlift was 600 and best squat was 545 high bar. Just started 2 monthd ago after a few years off and both my squat and deadlift are around 525. its weird
I have the same problem. But i know it’s because I only deadlift once a week and basically do a 5-3-1
Vienna Sausage was my pre-workout snack a couple years ago, super high in fat, sodium, and protein
I have same challenge as I can squat way heavier and leg press way more than deadlift because of hamstring.glute and low back not as strong as my quads.
Here's a novel idea for Frank. When going for a "pr" and you can't get it up, back off the weight until you do. Master that weight and then and only then add more weight to the bar.
What about those PL competitions where guys squat more than deadlift? Is it all just based on fatigue?
3:41 Didn't wanna keep stroking on it?
This video is hilarious start to finish lols
Sounds like his starting position in the DL is off, or he may need to do some deficit pulls at submax to work on getting off of the ground... maybe both.
My deadlifts plateaued at 280 lbs because I have a smooth barbell sleeve, and above that weight the bar tends to slip out of my hands.... I guess I need to get some chalk.
Here is an idea... Do more than 1 set of 5 for Deadlifts ....
Nah , do rows on every workout and put in extra work on your posterior chain
Have you been watching me in the gym?
@@jwatson181 the starting strength program reccomends deadlifting 1 set of 5. No secret agents watching you!!
@@brushogun2051 hence, the self depreciating deadlifting joke!
I'm doing five by five on the deadlift and I am progressing fine. Ten pounds added every workout. I also just started a month in so will see how fast I plateau. I don't understand the logic of doing accessories do get a better deadlift, I think you should be deadlifting If you want to improve your deadlift.
Frank should have included a video with his form.
Are these 1RMs?
Huh.
I would've longer legs and shorter back/ torso would impede deadlift vs. What RIP said 1:16
0:41: If "Frank" weighs 115-lbs, then he's quite strong for his size. If "Frank" weighs 275-lbs, then he's really weak.
The most I squatted was 190KG while the most I deadlifted was 140KG. My arms are too short for the deadlifts it feels annoying, also look at Bob Peoples he deadlifted 4 times his bodyweight that even strongest men Paul Anderson and Hepburn couldn't beat.
Rip is a fucking riot.
I can’t get over just how much he sounds like the financial guy who hates credit cards, Dave Ramsey. Identical voice and inflection.
Now you've pointed it out I can't unhear it thanks
Maybe if you can't tell west Texas from Tennessee hillbilly...
@@contrabone Is Ramsey from Tennessee or Texas?
@@SuperBizalz TN
@@contrabone I'm from Nashville so Rip doesn't sound anything like Dave Ramsey to me.
The easiest answer is that people are built different. Why can some people bench a ton and some people have to work forever to build it? Why do some people have certain developed body parts and others never will? Does the person asking this question not have the internet because he could answer all these questions himself....
I would venture that your median Vietnamese sausage is quite a bit better than a Vienna sausage. Vienna sausages are highly processed and kind of suck.
what about deadlifts that are only a bit heavier than squats? like less than a 30 pound difference
Rip's pr dl and pr squat are less than 30lbs difference
It doesn’t matter. If you squat more than you deadlift it’s fine or deadlift slightly more it’s all good. As long as it’s not by like 100’s of lbs
I squat deep....my deadlift and squat are both 405...Idk...
Weak hamstrings.
@@Jk-zv6tz I am starting to think it is more my age. I am close to 50 under 200lbs....so I guess I should just knock it off before I get injured!😞
@@a.f.s.3004 Da feck? Hell know. You can still get strong as hell in your 50a.
I mean I don't want to bash the information value of the video. But the jokes are what I'm in for watching recent Rips videos. :)
1:59 he knows what's up
I'm convinced that Rip is start to breeding a claw in his left arm...
Pink lobster man
Vienna sausages are part of my survival food.
Funny. I'm 53 and my squat is better than my dead. I have short arms and legs : )
Back in the day I used to bench almost what I squatted. Of course I was not low bar squatting as I was a bodybuilder.
Low bar squats are awesome.
I think I can bench more than I squat, but it has less to do with body mechanics than with the fact that I've trained like an idiot for a long time.
@Frank Burjan No question. There were some hip issues, but I mainly got into a groove where I was using my legs for slow-twitch work and my upper body for fast-twitch. I'm seeing some progress now that I'm working the big compound lifts.
@Frank Burjan Those are my main focus (along with vertical and horizontal pulls). I'm not a power lifter, but I'd like a better balance between lower and upper body. I've worked on mobility through the pelvis, and I can now get to parallel or slightly below on the squat. Now it's all about getting low and letting the muscle get acclimated.
@Frank Burjan Good advice. I'll keep grinding. Deadlifts tomorrow.
Come for the Deadlift discussion, stay for the Vietnamese Sausages...
Even if they don't make them anymore, there are still 1,000,000 cans floating around. They're still good too.
thought this guy(asing questions) needs to do some pause deads as accessory.but i'm not expert
3:50 sounds just like the old man, lol that should make dude regret asking that question.
Damn get Rip on sausages and he just starts drooling.
Especially the Vietnamese ones.
May be a hamstring weakness, they're more common than a lot of people realize
This is me. I have really tight hamstrings. 450 squat and maybe a 405 deadlift.
So do RDLs as a light day lift alternative?
@@GhettoFabulousLorch or good mornings, both are solid
I have the exact problem that Rip explains of short legs and sausage fingers!
You know there is a rumor that Vietnamese sausages are smaller than Vienna sausages and much, much smaller than African American sausages.
vienna sausage crew REPRESENT
Chalk, Hook Grip - Double Over Hand, setup and bloody rip it! Use straps if you are doing 3x5 or 5x5 at bigger weights to save your hands from getting ripped up but still lifting good weight
@Animenian Uzumaki You need to take it straight with bcaa to get it into blood instantly. Duh!
spare your advice.
@@everydaywarriors you spare your advice 😂 2 year old comment... Worked for me, I've done a 250kg low bar squat since then, bench is 140kg+ and DL over 200kg+... You know, real life natty not internet juicey numbers. I'd say 5x5 worked a treat during covid and 2023
Squat 405 @160 lbs HIGH BAR. My deadlift is the same.. squat is kind anyway
Do you hit depth? Curious for real, not trolling..
Unfortunately, I’m old enough to know Vienna sausages 😂
is their a biological reason that some lifts feel more fun and makes us more excited than other lifts that might be connected to the neuro-muscle connection being Better in those muscle groups, better fired up so to speak, used in that lift than the muscle groups used in other lifts you feel more troubled with both technically and also for developing in purely strength-wise? I kind of hate my deadlifts but love my shoulder presses no matter what day in the week I do them! 🤷🏼♂️feels like a I get mentally pumped doing shoulder presses but reach mental fatigue and get tired quickly doing deadlifts... just wonder how a good Neuro-muscular connection plays a role in also getting more positive mental energy... 🤔 thanks! :)
Dude shutup
0Beyonder0 dude, sign up to a gym and retire your internet troll profile here, nobody cares of you!
There was a time when all 3 of my lifts were 225lbs
Same
Damn he just roasted Bree haha
Vienna sausages are a breakfast staple in Hawaii
Vinny Viennese had a problem. When he would set-up to do deadlifts his stubby fingers would freak out and poke him in his eyes! Why? Because his whey and ways weren't right..
Did he say Vietnamese sausages?😂
twice
@@molozful thrice
I ate vienna sausages today, and im not in poverty haha!
Vienna Sausage Fingers. Hilarious.
HEYYYYUP DRAAAAHHHHHHVEEEE
YER SKWATS ARE FUHKIN HAAAAAGHHHH!!
What's the over/under on time until Brea (Bree?) slaps Rip with a lawsuit claiming a hostile work environment?
Ray Williams squats heavier then he deadlifts
I like using a kettlebell.
To squat.
Bre shade!!!😂😂😂
I hurt my back dead lifting 1200 pounds
That's a lot of weight for someone that's been lifting for a year..
Not really if you train right.
Vietnamese sausage fingers. I'm adding that to the Riptionary.
Vietnamese sausages are def different lol.
In today's episode of "hide the monkey"...
Greetings from Vienna ... XD
Loool that didn’t answer the question
I've got short arms and stubby fingers and even though my back starts out pretty much horizontal in a conventional deadlift I can still pull more than I can squat.
The only people I've ever seen legitimately squatting more than they can pull are bullshitting their squat in some way (shit depth and/or getting a lot of help from lifting gear).
I can squat approx 150kg (full depth), and deadlift around 115kg. Yep, looks like I definitely have some Vienna sausage fingers.
how could he be 53 and way stronger than me but i'm 20 and been training for more years
Imaginary internet numbers.
You might be training or eating improperly
Lots of reasons you could be lagging. Maybe the dude is a lot larger than you, for instance. But if you're 20 and have been training for "years," I'd expect you to be pulling at least double your bodyweight by now. The numbers he gave (369 deadlift, 390-something squat) are not super awesome even for a 53-year-old.
@@geoffbischoff816 been lifting for 2.5 years 6ft2 196lbs and only have a 264 squat ; 352 dl ; 126ohp ans 176 bench for 5 , i'm still trying to gain weight but don't know why i struggle so much
@@im_reyz8780 First, good on you for sticking with it and continuing to try. Second, you're young. You're an adult, but my body was still developing into my 20s.
Third, and probably most important, get a good coach. I'm not a certified coach in any method (though I try to help friends, and I use the Starting Strength method when I coach novice friends).
I coach a friend who is your same height and weight (but he's 30) who has gone, since January 2020, from 105-370 (squat), 175-375 (deadlift), 65-150 (ohp), 105-260 (bench). That's 8 months of work, brother.
As a coach I expect I'm Grade C at best. Find yourself a Grade A coach. For certifications, I'd trust anyone with a SSC cert to get me strong quickly *if I complied with the program.*
Go kick ass man.
Wtf is the basis for deadlifts being heavier than squats.
DL require hands keeping hold of weights, bending forward and lifting off the ground from standing. A huge awkward movement compared to squatting.
Squat requires LEGS, loading the shoulders, and going up and down. No grip strength fighting gravity.
Like basic mechanics say squats should ALWAYS be heavier. I feel like I'm the only one who sees this shit.
Wrong. Try lifting.
Weird enough since my front squat is stronger than my deadlift
wow thats actually wrong as hell
Chrontard i pull sumo pre corona at 225 kg with straps after that i stopped training for a month and i restarted at 140kg its more like detraining and recently hit a front squat pr At 165 kg lul
Vietnamese Sausages 🤣😂
Vietnamese sausages 😂
WTF Frank?
No.
Some of history's greatest lifters had squats much heavier than their deadlifts like Mike Bridges and Fred Hatfield. It's very common.
Two examples don’t make it common. It isn’t.
@@Captainrave Dave Waddington (first man to squat 1000 in competition), Ed Coan (the greatest ever), Rickey Crain and a man I trained with in Virginia in the early 80's John Gamble, the number 1 ranked 275lb. lifter for two years.They all squatted MORE than they deadlifted. I could go on and on. For me to say it's "common" doesn't mean that it's the majority. Those are two different words with different meanings but I could hardly expect a person that uses "ain't" to know that.
@@randystevens6302 Don’t forget Ray Williams too.
That’s normal for squat to be heavier than deadlift. In squat your muscles coil up on the way down while in DL you start from the dead stop with muscles not coiled up. Most powerlifters have squat bigger than their deadlift with only a couple of exceptions. Beginners usually tend to have their deadlift heavier than squat because it’s more common movement, people are used to lift stuff off the ground at home or at work.
Vietnamese sausage
😂😂😂😂
Hahaha!
First😳
@1:50 Did this dude just say "VietNamese sausages"????
my squat is 50% of my deadlift and 80% of my bench