The Lobster - Loss of Humanity in Dystopian Movies (Part 1) | Video Essay
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Dystopian movies show a disturbing view of the world by grabbing a human element and distorting it. In this video, we analyse how the movie "The Lobster" deforms relationships to show us loss of human identity.
Made by: Moises & Sergio Velasquez
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Original music by: Eduardo Gonzalez
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Man the lobster looks like a terrifying movie.
It's more light than you think, cause of the dark humor, but yes, the theme is pretty heavy
Definitely the most cynical movie I've ever watched. Not really scary. Maybe existentially so.
The deadpan dialogue reminds me of Aki Kaurismäki's movies.
@@Mr1337NAB I saw "The Man without a Past" a few years back. That one was great!
The willingness to conform to either camp instead of burning the entire thing down in fervent rebellion is disturbing.
30% of people down here are debating what animal to turn into. I think that says it all lol
One of the best comments I've seen in my life
I would prefere living as a worm than live my life that way.
Whatever you wish for, do not wish to be a rabbit in the movie's universe.
Fuking lovely comment...right on point 👌
@josh doe
True
it's a dystopia alright, but what director did is he just exaggerated the current state our society is in, methinks
loners considered losers, you declare yourself a loner - you immediately get an advice about getting a date, while other loners start telling you that no, it's not worth it, relationships are destructible and full of misery and suffering, be on your own and enjoy it
movie tells us to strike a balance, and this statement alone is the first reason it became one of my favorites
for this video, i greatly enjoyed that its author got the message right and delivered it in the best way possible
it's a sub, keep up the good work
But the people living there wouldn't think anything of it and to them it would probably be normal and not dystopian. But ye
Most celibates don't care about what you do as much as those looking for a mate tbh
@@toot180Well, that's how the human psyche works. If you grow up in a certain environment without anything challenging the rules of that environment, you wouldn't think anything of it.
For those who looking for inspiration for dystopian themed films...
Films mentioned on this video:
Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
Fahrenheit 451 (2018)
Children of Men (2006)
Soylent Green (1973)
Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984)
THX 1138 (1971)
Contagion (2011)
The Purge (2013)
The Hunger Games (2012
Gattaca (1997)
Snowpiercer (2013)
A Clockwork Orange (1971)
Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
The Road (2009)
A Quiet Place (2018)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Equilibrium (2002)
Minority Report (2002)
Metropolis (1927)
Elysium (2013)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
28 Days Later... (2002)
Brazil (1985)
Battle Royale (2000)
Twelve Monkeys (1995)
The Matrix (1999)
Akira (1988)
The Lobster (2015)
2:30 ->
Thanks!
Thank you! But add Brave New World to that list as well since it's quite similar to this film actually
The matrix is not a fiction
@@aakashsharma5542 or is it?
@@ThatGuy-zw4le no no, we live in a mattix and *How to break the matrix* ---watch *David Icke*
Wow, this looks really creepy. My watchlist grows and grows thants to your videos
Its not creepy
The themes are @@SilverStarAS
thanks ants
If you haven't already, you should take a look at Yorgos Lanthimos "the Killing of a Sacred Deer" and his first film "Dogtooth". There you can talk about creepy... :D
lol no it's just dark humor
It's not like we don't live in such society. We became much more isolated and devoid of feelings and i can see how you would portray that in a movie = The Lobster. It is interesting that Dystopia is always "closer" to our world than Utopia is, although that might just be that Dystopia is much more easily achieved.
I thought
Utopia=Dystopia
Human nature will never allow a Utopia to be achieved
@@silverman824
Utopia cannot, by definition, be permanently achieved if at all.
Dystopia is the aftermath of trying to achieve Utopia.
Ivo Hausknecht honestly, I disagree.
Utopia is not harder to reach than dystopia, and we aren’t closer to dystopia than to utopia, only our own egocentricism and shortsightedness could make us think the opposite in my opinion.
Just look at any period in history. Life is a combination of happiness and distress, of pain, misery, ignorance, hatred, benevolence, science, wealth and pleasure. Never in history has the balance of life tipped so much in favor of the latter, even in the worst hell on earth you could imagine. Take the worst country you could think of today, it has better prospect than 99% of past countries, and life is probably better there than it used to be for much of its history.
The only exception to that, when humanity lives in relative abundance, without wars, and the burden of disease, was when our societies were so small that our lives were happy but empty, a time of bliss but ignorance, and fruitlessness.
I mean, seriously, we live pretty darn near heaven right now, and got a long way away from hell. We become so much more isolated ? Are you kidding me ? Though it’s true, I won’t argue that we are more connected now than ever. Rather, I’ll point out that our wealth and knowledge allows on a massive scale what was impossible for much of our past on earth : true communion with he stranger. You think you are isolated ? Think about the time when you being integrated relies so heavily on your absolute obedience to social norms.
We didn’t grow apart, we finally let go of our empire on others, these are two different things.
Ivo Hausknecht I always hear people talk about the growing isolation and emotionless ness of today’s society. However cause of my rural county and small town lifestyle this must be something I don’t quite get. Is this more of a city situation?
If I lived in this universe I would just ask if I can become a velociraptor.
I agree. If I had to live in this world I’d love to become an unstoppable apex predator too.
In all seriousness, that's what most people would have chosen. Like, fuck all this shitass existential stuffs man, we could turn to any motherfuckin animal
They probably actually get killed
Godzilla
A walrus.
"A world where it is illegal to be single"
Ok
"If you are unable to find a partner you are taken to a hotel where you have to find a compatible person to be with"
Uh-huh alright
"And if you don't find one in 45 days you are turned into an animal... of your chosing"
_That escalated quickly_
That doesn’t even sound that bad
@@swlk9996 except the animal part
Cool!! I'd RATHER be an animal anyway!
Considering the state of the modern western woman... being turned into the animal of my choosing doesn't sound so bad. I'd go with Eagle.
@@ZekeMan62 true the same can be said of the modern man as well
Imagine a world full of toddlers but you're the only adult left. Man that would be so annoying.
That's what it feels like to be a Classical Liberal in the world of Covid.
Epstein would consider that a paradise
Just like in real life
@@URProductions ❄️🤮
It would be worse if you were the only young person in a world of old people.
How the hell hasn’t this channel blown up yet?!
It’s blowing up as we speak, that’s why it has appeared in your recommended.
I’d become a owl
I hear being a owl is a real hoot
You win comment of the day sir
Groan... you know the way out. Don't get me wrong, I chuckled, but rules are rules
ha
I'd be a bat.
I watch a lot of film analyzation video essays, and this channel does it the best by far.
Thank you for the kind words
"analyzation", huh? I see you trying there, smart guy.
@@auail5594 it is a real word, though. but it's more common for people to use the word "analysis".
idk man Like Stories of Old is fireeeee
Never heard of The Lobster and now I’m deeply disturbed and intrigued
I felt bad for the biscuit woman, David would rather be with the heartless woman over her, I still don't get why
Yeah that character had it bad
Desperation is a stinky cologne
@@Idiosynchris Super Troopers quote
@@Idiosynchris exactly
Desperation IS a bad energy, and I can feel it. It is a repellant.
Heard 2 min of plot. Paused. Watched the lobster. It’s my favorite movie now, my first favorite movie. And finished your video.
S u b s c r i b e d
Literally did the same lol
The Lobster is genuinely one of the greatest movies I've ever watched and I need to watch it again
A Utopia is never achievable because we are all different. It will always turn into a dystopia which we all envision to be different as well.
To all the people that would choose to be turned into dinosaurs: You guys are a match with each other.
Ty for this video. I paused it when you introduced what the Lobster was all about, couldn't believe I hadn't heard of it before, immediately watched on it on Netflix, and watched the rest of you video right after. What a weird, strange, amazing, and absurd film. Great breakdown too! The ending left it so open-ended, it was great. Such a great performance by all the actors and it has such hilarious moments with the bland dialogue. This is one of my favorite dystopian black comedies now. Ty for introducing me to it!
Glad you liked it!
The end isnt actually open, quite the contrary, but its quite understendable the confusion. When the credits are about to end, sea sounds like waves crashing start to being heard. This heaviely implies that the protagonist choose, using the options in this video, the third alternative: to fuck leave everything behind and actually become the (titular) lobster.
BackfallGenius - It had a smaller release back then but the commercials were all prevalent on the internet.
It's truly sad that the people who need to see and understand these movies, will probably never do either. And even if told about the issues with what their ideologies would bring about would be in complete denial of it.
I always find the most interesting Dystopian movies have characters who don't belong in the established world, whether it be something like being a survivor in a destroyed world or just not having a connection to the people around them.
I loved 'The Lobster' the first time I saw it and this video reminded me why.
-Being an animal sounds pretty cool though- it would be pretty lit to get to fly around as a hawk or something
Was a lanthimos fan but just recently watched this movie with my dad and he freaked out about the themes of the movie
Yeah I went in cold and was very surprised
you dad is a pussy.. take note
I honestly never knew that I live where they filmed this movie, especially that Shopping Centre is around the corner from me. (Blanchardstown Shopping Centre)
I have always loved how weighty your content is, not to mentioned your vocal and tone that automatically gets people to pay attention to what you have to say about your video. I love this.
Thank you 👍
Very well made video. I am surprise that you don't have more subscribers.
That's a very nice compliment thank you!
@@Screened You're welcome. I am watching your other videos.
my boy yorgos lanthimos was robbed of at least 2 oscars this year
The oscars are a hack.
My dad knows his dad from his teen years. He randomly met him drinking his sorrows in Porto Rafti.
Imagine being freed as a lobster only to be caught by a lobster boat
I know like 90% of the movies/books from the montage (including the lobster) and I now understand why I’m so optimistically pessimistic.
The trailer made The Lobster look like a dramedy but it was literally gut wrenching.
*Brain has leveled up*
New topics and thoughts are unlocked
I watched The Lobster when I was 14, didn't really think about it until now.
I love that there is a scene in the woods where a camel is just casually walking through the image in the background
I felt terribly ashamed in the first hour of "The Lobster", the first movie that made me feel that way, then "Get Out" and "The Menu". I simply loved this kind of movie that can spark terrible feelings.
A really interesting article that was assigned in my anthropology class that relates to this is called: “Identity, Kinship, and the Evolution of Cooperation” by Voorhees, Read and Gabora. It talks about the social systems in which we live, why we conform, and collective identity among other things, if anyone is really interested in looking more into this topic lol.
This is so weird, I've just come across your channel, and I just handed in an essay on dystopian cinema with the two main films being The Lobster and Children of Men - these videos would've really helped with writing it!!
My partner and I tried to watch The Lobster together. We were both in a mood for a comedy and that was what it kept being described as. By the time we got to the toaster scene, we looked at each other, I said, "oh, this is a horror film" and we turned it off. Went back to it later when we were in the right mood though, and then I thought it was brilliant.
honestly, i think being an animal would be better than living in their dystopian hellscape. ima just live the rest of my days as a cat.
YEAH!!!!!
The quality of your content is outstanding. The amount of information we're given is impressive.
Your videos always leave me thinking and divining humanity in our society , our surroundings and ourselfs.
The Lobster looks like a great movie to ask ourself about the need in our society to have a relationship to be memmerable in a extreme way.
I am really thankful that I found your channel by accident.
keep on the good work mate.
cheers.
Thank you very much I'm glad you like our videos 👍
Thank you, this is one of your best videos. I´m honest: I loved "The Lobster" so much, but i did not understand it entirely. Your videos was like blowing away the fog in front of my eyes. It helps me so much with my current script i´m writing.
Keep up your awesome videos! The analysis of the weird and the creepy in such an indepth way is incredibly rare and fascinating.
Thank you very much 👍
Of all the dystopian societies this one is one of the most terrifying
How you define humanity is really just a balance in power . Without that balance there is no humanity.
What a interesting topic. I can honestly say not only have you earnt my respect and admiration but you've also captured my itringue. Well done my man.
Thank you!
I watched this movie while i was zapping, and it awakened my curiosity
I end up thinking "what the fuck is up with this movie" but after your analysis, it has become more clear and now I'm glad i've watched it
I feel like a 15-year-old kid who has just finished Fight Club
I find the way the people talk in this movie very calming, as if some scenes are crafted purely for the pleasurable audio
I wish I had found this channel sooner. 10/10
Glad you like the channel 👍
as a content consumer that's the content I've been craving
All of these videos are so thought-provoking and I love it. The Lobster was a movie I looked forward to coming out because of its oddity. It's a movie that has stuck with me since I watched it. I'm glad you did a video on it.
Seeing shots from The Road, made me think about how much that book and movie shot me in the heart and stomped on my emotions. God that movie is good, but I don’t think I could watch it again.
I would become a butterfly.
Nobody ever suspects the butterfly
I come from 2020. We are dystopia now
always have been.
The basic understanding of this is that we fear to be our true selves when being single as we fear that others who we want to be with will not simply match and like us.
Can't stop watching your videos. You're the best man :D
Thank you I'm glad you like them 👍
This video analysis completely blew my mind. Uniformity is ever prevalent in our technologically dependent society and that terrifies me. I was actually wondering if I could use you as a tertiary source for my English paper on The Lobster?
Sure you can👍
Just found this channel and you're doing ALL my favorite movies. The Lobster was awesome!!!
This movie in grotesque way portrays rule Number 1 of survival - adaptability. We know from a history that masses went with supporting terrifying ideas just out of survival instinct.
i thought the video was about the loss humanity in dark souls but still good vid man
The Lobster was one of those rare movies that had me thinking about it long after watching it. It has such a unique premise and execution. Sterile but intriguing and strange.
It's a good strange 👍
Man, your editing skills for this video essay is so great!
Thank you 👍
sometimes recommended videos aren't so bad.... its 3am and im still binge watching your videos, cheers man
Thank you very much 👍
fun fact: the romans had laws against celibate, both into the republic and the empire. You would have been economically ruined if single
fun fact: the world health organization which is backed by the EU and US has declared being unable to find a partner a mental illness
@@squishiergnat377,
I don't understand why. Seems a little cold-hearted.
I saw lobster long time ago and your essay does proper justice to the film! 👏
Informative analysis of The Lobster keep up the great work!
Thank you very much!
Haven't watched it yet, but just by this video; it pretty much summarizes what we are going through right now in this actual world.
Man I hate you, you are making me binge through your channel hahaha. Great job lad keep it up I am sure that rather sooner than later you will have a lot more subs :D!
Ah.. The Lobster. Love this movie. So wonderfully funny and disturbing at the same time.
Interesting director in general. Really love Dogtooth and The Killing Of A Sacred Deer by him as well.
great job man, got some crazy goose bumps towards the end
Thanks👍 glad you liked it
The music fits so well!
We already live in a dystopian world.
The first minute is peak video essayist: surface level intellectual meandering while posing simplistic philosophical what-ifs.
We are already full of Unicorns and Pandas. We may be living in a distopian world of sheer acceptance.
Just wow. You, sir, have got yourself a new subscriber.
Thank you
@@Screened Thank YOU for this amazing content.
It's like taking "Number 12 Looks Just Like You" to the extreme. Will have to watch.
damn, you're good. "lobster" was so boring for me (i watched only a part of it), and now, after your video, i'm really reconsidering watching it!
yeah I'd just accept my fate and become an animal
Sade Metsävirta *stay an animal.
@@nathanjora7627 LMAOOOO
@@haro.3820 Hey, it’s not my fault if nobody thought of the loophole « I want to become a Homo sapiens » XD
A world in which no one has agency but must constantly conform to the rules of some society or subset of society, a world where people are identified by their most defining physical characteristic? Sounds exactly like our world.
I always thought the detail that it’s so important they have a shared characteristic .
Extraordinary as usual
One of the best movies I’ve ever seen.
But best doesn’t mean comforting. My ex hated it, I guess we weren’t compatible. ;)
I was so sad when i did not see another one of these..
do more.
4:09 "aggressively normal" ... you don´t hear that every day
Just subscribed to your channel and im feeling lucky tonight. You have a great insight and I would love to listen to you talk and talk about films for hours. First time RUclips recommended someting that's ACTUALLY GOOD.
Thank you
Criminally underrated videos. Keep it up!
Thank you very much
You jumped the fact that the narration is only made for three characters. Loner Leader, Near Sighted and David.
This narration I think is actually a trait they share, an endless inner narration of everything they think and that happens.
And why loner leader was also in love with David.
other movies by this director have similar dialogue it's brilliant sometimes and makes the emotional parts strange and makes everything feel off as it is already
The Lobster disturbed me more than most movies though I did not like the movie. Taking something to its extreme a bit hard to believe but if the director was trying to make people think, he did that for sure.
I think it is also about extremism. We have a subject without an objectively right answer but most people can agree that living as a couple is probably better. But this disagreement becomes bigger and bigger and soon we have two sides that only allow one answer and cuts out the grey areas. Now the people in the middle are often forced to take one side, even though they dont want to.
I remember watching this movie after having been single for about 3 years, that was a trip....
At 1:18 they remind me of the saying, "They make a dessert and call it peace!"
This was a horror movie. I fight for my identity by working towards a job I enjoy doing and a skill that's needed instead of a job that will give me the most amount of money with vague title.
This is the first time I've liked this film, thank you for an excellent video.
"Being good with maths" Nice In Bruges reference.
That already is happening
Want to know how this could've happened in the movie? Look around you. Fear. People are now clamoring for a dystopia out of fear, voluntarily surrendering their humanity for a false sense of security.....
got suggested a video of yours and i am now watching every single video haha sub well earned
I can absolutely understand why he chose a lobster. After learning what i know about lobsters, I could never eat them. Ppl who know this and can STILL eat them and not cry when seeing them cooked alive after being tied up and stored on top of eachother in a small acquarium, are heartless ppl. Truly heartless.
Utopias are NEVER a good thing. They can only be achieved by sacrificing the most basic human values. Even in real life today, we have very problematic societies on some levels that are not utopias, but seemingly are well-organized, developed and wealthy societies. Take Japan, for instance. In material terms, their quality of life seems outstanding. And many (especially anti-Americans/anti-Capitalist idiots) would argue their collectivist world view is preferable to the individualistic one from our side of the world. However, bullying both in schools and businesses is caused precisely thanks to such extreme collectivist standing. If you don't comply to what the majority considers normal, you will be bullied in schools, not by a few rotten apples, but by the whole class and even the teachers, sometimes. Most Japanese women don't engage in romantic relationships and, when they do, don't have children, which is causing a huge problem in Japanese society, which is aging fast with no new generation to replace the old ones. The government is well aware of that problem, but despite all their efforts, companies keep insisting in not hiring women of child-bearing age because they don't want to have to pay maternity leaves, and employees go along with that, often bullying young women into quitting their jobs (or comitting suicide) because they got married or pregnant. The herd mentality implied in any utopia is extremely dangerous and damaging, and one of the major reasons for that is that utopias aren't possible in real life, as the fate of all socialist/communist nations has amply demonstrated during the 20th century.
The Japanese have a saying, "The nail that sticks out gets hammered down."
Alexandre Martins not counting the fact that most western countries operate under a mixture of socialism and capitalism and fare better than the US in terms of human development or happiness, you do realize that life in Japan now is still far better than it used to be ?
I mean, now you are bullied, before you were killed.
I think that not only taking Japan is dishonest when arguing that our modern world is far from an utopia and utopias necessitate sacrificing basic human values, it’s also an epic fail.
Japanese live better now than they did today, in fact everyone is. In large part thanks to capitalism, of course, and in large part due to elements of socialism, like at the very least free universal school. And most would agree : free universal healthcare, at least some measure of it.
Also, going on a rant about socialism when talking about japan and their collectivistic mentality... epic fail. Japan and China are the proof that collectivist mentality, when handled correctly, are favored by a capitalistic economy, but Japan is not socialist, despite its very strong reliance on values such as families and the importance of the group over the individual.
By the way, it’s ironic to hear that coming from a citizen of the US. It’s not like the most traditional/conservative (ie : anti-socialist) part of your population were religious people doing just that (placing family and religion at the same level or over the wellbeing of the individual), with super strong social pressures in order to keep everyone in church for most of your history, sometime despite your own constitution ?
I would rather be turned into an animal than loose my identity, I would be a raven
Watched it Recently ..... man , what a movie !!!! Yorgos Lanthimos is becoming one of my Favourite Filmmaker !!!!