All of this would mostly be fixed if Gaijin implemented a minimum level and rank that must be unlocked in order to purchase a high tier premium. This would eliminate the noobs who have no experience whatsoever and immediately buy their way to high tier.
If the grind wasn't a 9-5 people wouldn't be incentivized to buy there way up plus the research bonus you get I wish there was reason to play low br while grinding top tier
Man I hate the Turm III. Such an obnoxious vehicle. It's insane that it's only 0.3 above the Leopard 1 while being stabilized, getting better mobility, a significantly faster reload (and it's not affected by bad crew skills), and a very strong secondary gun.
As a US main, nothing is more cathartic than having a Turms 3 player who thinks he’s slick and tries to rush me after I fire just to get atomized by the MBT-70’s 20mm auto cannon. Especially after getting bullied in my M60s after they released it
My biggest problem as a "9-5 work" player is the balancing. I get home from work and want to enjoy driving a tank but my team getting stomped in 5 minutes and rest of the round is base rape. That happens 4 times in a row. Why no Skillbased MM -.-
I know I've been struggling getting 4.0 BR games in a timely fashion these last few weeks. When I jump into my 9.3 tanks, I am almost always put into a game near instantly.
Turm III was my first premium, and I bought it to make grind faster after i researched leo 1, but cool I have modern MBTs, but low tier is fun unlike toptier. For me fun ends after br 9 - 9.3.
My thing is yea I buy a premium to grind the whole tree out but I’m gonna go back and spade all of the vechiles I got except the ones that won’t be fun
Everyone saying minimum be to purchase a premium like bro they’re free kills and who’s gonna purchase a top tier premium if you already have top tier lmao
Those free kills are your teammates you idiot. if you can do the basic task of watching the rdflt video that dawg IV life made a few days ago you would know what I mean.
Regarding premiums. I originally bought myself into high tier (9.3)(not top tier), mind that I am not completely new to War Thunder I grinded out 3 air tech trees by that point, but I find low tier ground so boring. Its a completely different experience. The only tech tree I genuinely tried grinding was Japan and that was the most boring experience i have ever made. Once I was out of low tier it became enjoyable, but before that it was just so jarring. It feels too slow and unrewarding. Besides I just like modern vehicles more than older ones.
They should add some better PVE content so people who buy high tier premiums have a way to grind and learn the mechanics. Also if a player brings one tank into battle (Premium or not) they should get 2 or 3 respawns per match for free if they have enough SP.
Besides all the points you mentioned, the turm is just a very cool premium thats unique, its not just a complete copy paste (tiger 2 prem) or is very similar to something else (ru251 being a fast leopard 1.) Also coax 30 mil go brrrrrrrrrr
SO, the sea battles are just done better with WoWS IMHO. They need to stick with tanks and planes. Hell, I would have rather seen them start implementing infantry somehow than the naval stuff.
Turm 3 users have a combined IQ of 0, they very very often ram me out of cover because their non existing brain thinks it's a smart idea and then both die. You should basically report them for teamkilling as soon as you see one near you, they are more dangerous than actual enemies 😂
All the naval maps are terrible, no mode variety, almost no ship variety, and no attempt to retain a naval player base.... Naval is cooked and they either need to scrap it or retry it
I think that might piss everyone off if they reduced the rp for premiums but I do agree increasing the rp gain for tech tree vehicles is a great idea most players don't care for the lower tiers
I admittedly bought this tank during the sale because I wanted to start grinding out Germany, but I can get a good number of kills in it whenever I use it, easily 5-7 tanks per round. I'm mostly an air player as well and an okay ground player at best. It's a great tank
eh tbh idrc about premium straight to top teir cuz one easy kills but also people tend to actually never learn anything till rank 3 anyways i know for a fact that i never learn shit from rank 1 or 2 because american has nothing good armour wise that you have to learn with however rank 3 and four you need to learn where to pen and how to angle. if you're gonna buy a premium i recommend a rank 4 premium because it'll get you to rank 5 and 6 fairly quick and rank 7 just grind with the rank 6 vehicles over time
Who sing that for some people it could take upwards to a year to 2 years to even reach top tier without even spending money on the game so they force people to pay for premium time and premium tanks just be able to progress down the line an easy solution to this is severely reduced the amount of RP and SL for the vehicle so people can actually get up it without needing to pay money or make it to where we don't have to purchase certain amount of vehicles in a rank to progress to the next rank cuz that always bug the hell out of me if I'm going down one line why do I have to research seven other vehicles just to go down one line make no sense
When you told that BMP player to put some headphones on that doesn't work cuz the sounds still broken somehow your friendly tanks are louder than the enemies and you can't even hear a tank that's like directly next to you
Rushing to top tier is not the solution, gaijin needs to find ways to make the natural progression of the game more appealing than wanting to buy top tier premiums or rush directly to top tier. Reducing Rp requirements is fine but also should not come at the cost of players getting to areas of the game they are not prepared for.
@@DawgIVLife yeah it would be more appealing to players to actually you know earn money in XP in a game cuz I barely make any RP and SL even after they changed the reward multiplier can I see games where I die immediately because there's so many things broken about the game where PC players see different than console players so when a PC player shoots me it can hit my tracks on my screen but yet the killcam show that they hit completely in a different area the player so console only plays with console we wouldn't have a hard time trying to go up a line without blatant cheaters and Gaijin favoring PC over console
I respectfully disagree. I have always hated DM13 and DM12 is even worse, having to two shot a lot of things feels terrible even with a fast reload and dying in one shot from anything feels even worse. You're also not even fast for a light tank as medium German tanks can keep up with you. I must admit though destroying light tanks with that machine cannon is beyond hilarious.
Have you played with APDS since the Pen Buff, DM13 overall is really good now. I rarely even touch the HEAT-FS because it has good enough pen for 99% of the tanks you will face. M728 though on the M60 AOS for example is terrible but at least its useable.
the reason for this, and i guarantee it plays a huge roll in it. veterans absolutely roflestomping new players from BR 4.0-6.7 has driven MANY new players away. so there just isnt as many people playing in the veteran BR range anymore. if the try hards who go 12-0, 9-1 in 4.0 to 6.7 went back to top tier it would probably get better... just my opinion
LOL . These lobbies are nothing but trash players at lvl 13 . Sick of it. That being said . I've pretty much bought all of these over the years . But I also have 6000 hrs
Is naval officially cooked? 😢
Yes
They went into naval to late because world of war ships was thriving when they released naval
As long as gaijin keeps blatantly ignoring it yes
Always has been :)
@@Kianyahhthey at least get 1-5 vehicles per update it’s just none of those vehicles are interesting.
Turms III: Im the most used
10 2S38s in everymatch I play:
The five Type 16 FPS's in every 9.0 GRB match:
All of this would mostly be fixed if Gaijin implemented a minimum level and rank that must be unlocked in order to purchase a high tier premium. This would eliminate the noobs who have no experience whatsoever and immediately buy their way to high tier.
Gaijin actually care about the game and stop cash grabbing ?
OH HELLL NAWWWWWWWWW
if you were gaijin, would you?
You are the most naive person to ever live.
Why would a business intentionally handicap their own income?
why a company do that? they don't care about people being good or not. Gaijin only wants money.
If the grind wasn't a 9-5 people wouldn't be incentivized to buy there way up plus the research bonus you get I wish there was reason to play low br while grinding top tier
Man I hate the Turm III. Such an obnoxious vehicle. It's insane that it's only 0.3 above the Leopard 1 while being stabilized, getting better mobility, a significantly faster reload (and it's not affected by bad crew skills), and a very strong secondary gun.
Leopard I Should be 7.7
@@aquafire_yt6247 facts bro
@@arucalibrxti3782 but 7.7 wouldn’t work. Tiger II vs leopard I lol. We need decompression. Ground should be 13.7 and air 15.7
@@aquafire_yt6247 leopard I has have glass armor tho. Tiger II can kill leopard I easily
@ but Leo is fast and has a good gun for the br
The bpm 1 stock grind was hell because of the Turm 3
As a US main, nothing is more cathartic than having a Turms 3 player who thinks he’s slick and tries to rush me after I fire just to get atomized by the MBT-70’s 20mm auto cannon. Especially after getting bullied in my M60s after they released it
I stop at 10.3, but i like at lower BRs without thermals and laser range finders the experience is different and usually more engaging
Mi-24A? Absolutely not. Literally every game there is an AH-1G that suicides into the nearest group of tanks, 24A feels like a unicorn in comparison
My biggest problem as a "9-5 work" player is the balancing. I get home from work and want to enjoy driving a tank but my team getting stomped in 5 minutes and rest of the round is base rape. That happens 4 times in a row. Why no Skillbased MM -.-
Because queue times would be to long plus Skill based match maker outside of a ranked mode is very unpopular to do.
this is the most popular vehicle because they made the statistic right before the sales
@@whatever3245 F4S wasn’t on sale so i don’t think 1 sale will overtake a whole year of games
I know I've been struggling getting 4.0 BR games in a timely fashion these last few weeks. When I jump into my 9.3 tanks, I am almost always put into a game near instantly.
The reason for people more buying premiums is that they value their time… And are less tolerant against boring play…
got up to 8.0 germany before i switched to sweden
bought the turm 3 and (ab)using it now to grind higher :D
I just bought the Turm, it is a great vehicle, but i grinded the german tech tree up to 6.7 and just wanted a fun vehicle to play.
It will sooner or later get uprank. Just too good to stay at 8.3
Turm III was my first premium, and I bought it to make grind faster after i researched leo 1, but cool I have modern MBTs, but low tier is fun unlike toptier. For me fun ends after br 9 - 9.3.
My thing is yea I buy a premium to grind the whole tree out but I’m gonna go back and spade all of the vechiles I got except the ones that won’t be fun
I see way more tams,2s38 or the bagel more then turms.
Leo2a4 is the Most played Tank imo.
Everyone saying minimum be to purchase a premium like bro they’re free kills and who’s gonna purchase a top tier premium if you already have top tier lmao
Those free kills are your teammates you idiot. if you can do the basic task of watching the rdflt video that dawg IV life made a few days ago you would know what I mean.
“Huger” is not a word.
Regarding premiums. I originally bought myself into high tier (9.3)(not top tier), mind that I am not completely new to War Thunder I grinded out 3 air tech trees by that point, but I find low tier ground so boring. Its a completely different experience. The only tech tree I genuinely tried grinding was Japan and that was the most boring experience i have ever made. Once I was out of low tier it became enjoyable, but before that it was just so jarring. It feels too slow and unrewarding. Besides I just like modern vehicles more than older ones.
They should add some better PVE content so people who buy high tier premiums have a way to grind and learn the mechanics. Also if a player brings one tank into battle (Premium or not) they should get 2 or 3 respawns per match for free if they have enough SP.
Bro actually said nerf rp gain on a premium meant to help you grind💀
No I said reduce RP required to unlock new vehicles and modules
Besides all the points you mentioned, the turm is just a very cool premium thats unique, its not just a complete copy paste (tiger 2 prem) or is very similar to something else (ru251 being a fast leopard 1.)
Also coax 30 mil go brrrrrrrrrr
SO, the sea battles are just done better with WoWS IMHO. They need to stick with tanks and planes. Hell, I would have rather seen them start implementing infantry somehow than the naval stuff.
They already made enlisted
I bought in the Christmas sale (using GJN). Cuz all the other stuff just didn't interest me, Why doesn't it have its 3 axis stab...
It's a fun tank. I get it. It does everything. Just don't get hit.
3-4 year player. I bought a Turm 3 because Sphere
Whoopsy-daisy, by Dog.
Turm 3 users have a combined IQ of 0, they very very often ram me out of cover because their non existing brain thinks it's a smart idea and then both die. You should basically report them for teamkilling as soon as you see one near you, they are more dangerous than actual enemies 😂
All the naval maps are terrible, no mode variety, almost no ship variety, and no attempt to retain a naval player base.... Naval is cooked and they either need to scrap it or retry it
I agree reducing rp for premium vehicles is a good idea
Then also increase the rp for tech tree vehicles
I think that might piss everyone off if they reduced the rp for premiums but I do agree increasing the rp gain for tech tree vehicles is a great idea most players don't care for the lower tiers
Thats a bad call. Instead reduce RP per modules for vehicles. A rank 5-8 vehicle should not have more then 10K RP for it module!
@@mab2187this. Modules are one of the reasons I don't even bother using the top tier lineup I grinded my ass off to get.
nah just make tech tree vehicles give like 25% more rp
@@mab2187 hm that too rn i find it hard to grind vehicles using tech tree vehicles and spading them too
You're also not a normal player. You're in the Top 10% of all players and when i play this tank, i get 2 or 3 kills in a good game.
It depends on the much so much for me. In a good game, in a good map I get 5-7 kills, but on some games I get 1 or 0
I admittedly bought this tank during the sale because I wanted to start grinding out Germany, but I can get a good number of kills in it whenever I use it, easily 5-7 tanks per round. I'm mostly an air player as well and an okay ground player at best. It's a great tank
You re just bad, kinda
@@josezarate7565 Wow. Nice to meet you too.
eh tbh idrc about premium straight to top teir cuz one easy kills but also people tend to actually never learn anything till rank 3 anyways i know for a fact that i never learn shit from rank 1 or 2 because american has nothing good armour wise that you have to learn with however rank 3 and four you need to learn where to pen and how to angle. if you're gonna buy a premium i recommend a rank 4 premium because it'll get you to rank 5 and 6 fairly quick and rank 7 just grind with the rank 6 vehicles over time
Who sing that for some people it could take upwards to a year to 2 years to even reach top tier without even spending money on the game so they force people to pay for premium time and premium tanks just be able to progress down the line an easy solution to this is severely reduced the amount of RP and SL for the vehicle so people can actually get up it without needing to pay money or make it to where we don't have to purchase certain amount of vehicles in a rank to progress to the next rank cuz that always bug the hell out of me if I'm going down one line why do I have to research seven other vehicles just to go down one line make no sense
When you told that BMP player to put some headphones on that doesn't work cuz the sounds still broken somehow your friendly tanks are louder than the enemies and you can't even hear a tank that's like directly next to you
Rushing to top tier is not the solution, gaijin needs to find ways to make the natural progression of the game more appealing than wanting to buy top tier premiums or rush directly to top tier. Reducing Rp requirements is fine but also should not come at the cost of players getting to areas of the game they are not prepared for.
@@DawgIVLife yeah it would be more appealing to players to actually you know earn money in XP in a game cuz I barely make any RP and SL even after they changed the reward multiplier can I see games where I die immediately because there's so many things broken about the game where PC players see different than console players so when a PC player shoots me it can hit my tracks on my screen but yet the killcam show that they hit completely in a different area the player so console only plays with console we wouldn't have a hard time trying to go up a line without blatant cheaters and Gaijin favoring PC over console
Move turm III with TAM to 10BR
You really never played the tam didn't you? And the turm couldn't even be 9.3, every 9.3 has thermals and apdsfs while the turm has none of it
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I respectfully disagree. I have always hated DM13 and DM12 is even worse, having to two shot a lot of things feels terrible even with a fast reload and dying in one shot from anything feels even worse. You're also not even fast for a light tank as medium German tanks can keep up with you. I must admit though destroying light tanks with that machine cannon is beyond hilarious.
Have you played with APDS since the Pen Buff, DM13 overall is really good now. I rarely even touch the HEAT-FS because it has good enough pen for 99% of the tanks you will face. M728 though on the M60 AOS for example is terrible but at least its useable.
Actual skill issue, DM13 is very good
the reason for this, and i guarantee it plays a huge roll in it. veterans absolutely roflestomping new players from BR 4.0-6.7 has driven MANY new players away. so there just isnt as many people playing in the veteran BR range anymore. if the try hards who go 12-0, 9-1 in 4.0 to 6.7 went back to top tier it would probably get better... just my opinion
Naval sux, i hate it. Never play it, so boring and dumb
The turm is quite annoying
At least it's easy to kill. At least for me
And quite easy to kill if you play right the Turm is not really a problem lol
@@IBimmsJohn no armor best armor
@xdislarium825 Not the Turm lol
LOL . These lobbies are nothing but trash players at lvl 13 . Sick of it. That being said . I've pretty much bought all of these over the years . But I also have 6000 hrs