All Nintendo has to do is make a more powerful Switch. People still love the handheld/docked concept, we just need more power. But they have to market it well, we can’t have a rerun of the Wii U.
Definetely. If they don’t market it well, they could risk people thinking it’s another Switch model like the Switch OLED or Switch Lite. Nintendo’s target audience is very casual (with exceptions of course), so they need to make it VERY clear that this is the next generation of Nintendo. I’m sure they already know this, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t use the name “Switch” at all.
Yeah, they need to have a good marketing plan in place to differentiate the successor from the original. I remember not even realizing the Wii U was its own console until like a month after it was announced. Thought it was just a new accessory.
This is such a huge deal for me. My backlog isn’t huge, but it’s big enough to where I would be pretty upset if it wasn’t backwards compatible. Besides that, I have so many games I want to replay, like Metroid Dread and Xenoblade 2. Having those on a bigger screen with possibly boosted performance, even if just a little, would be gold.
Do you mind writing me a list of your favorite switch games so far? Could be a top 10 or top 20 (the more the merrier honestly) would be a great starting point for me. Planning to get back into gaming after 10 years :)
@@silvrsurfer 1. Zelda Breath of the Wild 2. Zelda Tears of the Kingdom 3. Mario Odyssey 4. Metroid Dread 5. Persona 5 Royal 6. Pokémon Legends Arceus 7. Zelda Echoes of Wisdom 8. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze 9. Super Mario Bros. Wonder 10. Xenoblade definitive Edition 11. Super Mario 3D World 12. Eastward 13. Links Awakening 14. (If you dig Multiplayer) Splatoon 3, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Super Smash Bros. Not necessarily in order, just games that I really like.
Why are there people worried about physical BC? If Switch 2 was digital BC only, then Nintendo would've said that. The biggest reason they announced backwards compatible is because they want to encourage us to buy Nintendo games for this holdiay season. To Japan, software means games. It can also mean physical media. Nintendo has always put both physical and digital games together as software sales. When people say hardware, they usually mean consoles. Cartridges hold the software inside. Japan also use an entirely different word to usually mean digital, so it wouldn't have translated to software. Everybody seems to be overthinking this.
Never assume. We can hope they include physical, but unless they specify it clearly, we won't know for sure. If the community shows apprehension, then Nintendo will know that physical BC is an important feature for the community
I have no doubts that if theyre doing backwards compatability it will be for physical games too. Even if the new cartrages are a different size they can have both like the ds with gba games
3:43 - things are different this time. Let me explain: Previous generations of consoles achieved backwards compatibility by running the older chip alongside the new one. Since it was the same old chip, it had the same performance. This time, backwards compatibility is almost surely being achieved by running a newer generation of the ARM CPU (and nVidia GPU). Since it's a newer generation of the same chip, they can run the code directly on the new chip and don't need to run an older chip alongside the newer one. Since the code is running on a much more powerful CPU/GPU, if it was struggling to maintain performance on the older system - it will automatically see gains on the new system, which won't struggle as much. This is very much akin to upgrading your PC and seeing performance gains on the new system. And although I would really like Nintendo to refresh their games to take better advantage of the new hardware, I also expect that even without changes many games will benefit from simply running on better hardware.
@@WilliamElsman That's one of the things that Nintendo has to confirm, but I don't see why they would have us abandon our Switch 1 cartridges after all that talk about backwards compatibility and not resetting their relationship with their customers.
I get good value out of NSO, and I prefer it to rebuying the same games over and over again, but, as awkward a system as it is, I think they could learn from Sony on this one. I don't subscribe to PS+ anymore, and I appreciate that I can buy select PS1 and PS2 games from their digital store instead. And it pulls from purchases I made back on the PS3 and PSP. The price of NSO is a bargain compared to PS+ Premium, but I still think it would be nice to provide options for those who would rather just have full access to an old favourite without recurring fees.
Agreed... I could even get suckered into paying for a subscription service AND making "complete purchases" of specific games if I wanted to. Like, I'll keep paying NSO for the off-chance I'll try out new games as they get added, but I'll still go ahead and drop 8 bucks for a "permanent" license for Majora's Mask that lasts for as long as I have a basic free Nintendo account and a console to play it on.
I mean, to be fair these companies have plenty of time to make money off of all those old titles. So my solution is just downloading libraries of games for my own personal collection. We owe nothing to these corporations.
Its interesting that you both assumed Furakuwa's comment on 'further compatibility at a later date' meant that there could be some omissions. I assumed the opposite, as in software and NSO are definite and then other stuff, joycons, pro, and amiibo etc would also be compatible in various degrees, like joycons can't attach obvs.
@TAJHADproductions that's fair, but assuming the current joy cons are compatible, then there's no reason why any games that use those would not be backwards compatible.
In terms of how they would do physical, I mean they’ve done it multiple times with handhelds. Make the chip part basically the same but change other parts of the cart so that they can’t be inserted into the old system.
The problem I have with subscriptions like NSO is that you don't get to keep the games or game data whenever the service shuts down. Paying for NSO expansion for 8 years is $400. Virtual Console was way cheaper in the long run for most people.
After all they are rentals. I'm sure I left more money for renting video games back in the day and only had the games for a weekend. I don't wanna summarize all the years to learn how much money I spent for something I don't own. But I get what you mean with prefering VC purchases and having the better longterm value.
I also hate how you can only buy the expansion pack one year at a time. I know that I'm not going to spend an entire year playing N64 games, if they just let me pay for a week or a month and then cancel my subscription it would be a lot better value.
What I doubt will happen but really hope for is that some Switch games might get Switch 2 specific updates which would let them run at a higher resolution or fps.
Lol thats been their entire strategy for literally the entire life of the switch. Half of switchs best games are wiiu ports from 10 years ago at this point.
@@MikeVideos327 ...that's not what I meant. I mean I don't need to buy the game again to play it in slightly higher quality. Not sayin I like Nintendo for it, but at least they don't slap "remastered" on the box for some extra pixels.
Yes we should be able to slap in old switch carts and for them to run natively better with better frame rates and resolution on the successor just by taking advantage of the extra power. Similar to what PS5 pro is doing with PS5 games.
@@jairekambui7738 "Similar to what PS5 pro is doing with PS5 games." That's good practice! I'm quire surprised to hear that considering how often PS games have been resold the same game with the settings turned up and slapped "remastered" on the box.
THIS was a big sell for me! Now I feel confident I can continue buying new games on cartridges and not make my life more complex (assuming this includes cartridges).
Nintendo is the company that crammed a GBA cartridge slot onto the DS. Why would anybody think they might not make the new system fully backwards compatible with Switch?
Not sure if it's likely for Nintendo to patch old games to run better on new hardware, but I'd be surprised if Metroid Prime 4 isn't getting it's own tailor made version for the new console.
It's weird watching all these youtubers talking about how Switch 2 is being announced just around the corner. Like... dude, they're not gonna announce it before Christmas. That said, the new Switch will have the same type of chip. I suspect a lot of old games will simply be able to perform better because the chip is more powerful. I suspect in some cases for big games like breath of the wild they might do upgraded options where they redo textures and stuff like that. In a lot of cases they can just change the max resolution games run at and they'll just naturally look better.
This lets us know that some or all of the games coming or rumored will actually launch on switch 2.. smart move Nintendo. I'm betting old controllers and joycons will work also.
So glad the console wasn’t announced in October, the US election and its fallout will dominate conversation for the foreseeable. Let’s hope we’re not thrown into ww3 before the switch 2 gets released though 😅
The switch is still 50/50 physical and digital compared to the other platforms favouring digital so its unlikely that it'll be only digital when nintendo still heavily relies on boxed sales
@@sidescreamerful notice how they specifically only said "software" though. I fully expect backwards compatibility to be limited to digital, but i'd be happy to be wrong
@@ci4pp3rthat would be pure madness 😅 aint no way nintendo give the middle finger to literally half the fan base. 70 million people unable to play their switch games on switch 2? Not happening
NSO’s system is a symptom of the death of Virtual Console, not the cause. When everyone else realized they can package and sell their old games on multiple platforms without VC’s label, it became pointless to try to continue the model with just Nintendo’s first party lineup and whatever smattering of third party gets they had available.
Great to have DIRECT WORDED confirmation of bacwards compatiblity. I think they held of this long; because now they know they won't be selling that many more Switch systems; but they most certainly will be selling more Switch 1 games (especially with some of the best games still to come after decades of people waiting for ports and collections of Capcom's and other companies' finest). Although I am hoping Nintendo throws us a bone and sell us the Switch 2 dock months ahead of launch, and make it so that it can be used with the Switch 1 in docked mode to get stable 60ps in overclocked mode and then advertised that the Switch 2 will be able to run Switch 1 games at a stable 60fps in both docked and handheld mode, AS WELL as have DLSS patches for some of the more notable games. I mean; there has to be a reason that the Switch 1 had an "update dock firmware" option added to it about 2 years ago no? Then when the Switch 2 comes out; they can sell it without a dock for $300 and with the dock for $400. Oh and yes; carts will work as Nintendo has doubled down on phsyical game production and even partner up with LImited Run games officially (look it up) to help with this endeavor.
Its 2024, they no longer need to put a notch or something to stop people from putting a new cart in an old switch, they can be the exact same shape and just give an error message that says "not compatible with the original switch" on the screen or something along those lines?
You wouldn’t need a patch for faster loading times/more stable frame rates, if the hardware was faster and especially if the onboard hardware will support Switch games natively, and won’t be emulated. That should be a given for the existing library, so even if there isn’t a “pro mode patch” for games, we should expect faster loading times and less/no frame rate dips at launch. I’d expect/hope that they will allow download patches that improve things like graphics, fidelity, frame rate caps and maybe even support for higher resolution visuals, in whatever way they end up doing such a thing (probably some sort of AI upscaling with DLSS). I’m sure we’ll get plenty of ports that support a lot of these things being sold, so it’s unclear what any upgrades would look like from the get go as far as how much we’re going to pay for them.
Considering it would be hardware back compat rather than any emulation, I'd suggest that 99% of games will work. The bigger question is will there be any boosts to old games?
I'm not surprised, but it's so AWESOME to see that Switch 2 will play Switch games too it's just obvious just like in a good old days with DS/3DS and Wii/Wii U this is a PERFECT choise thank you Nintendo! 😆❤
@@takeyourheart114it's been obvious for a couple of years now.. The success of the switch 2 is reliant on backwards compatability.. No way people would be ok with buying a switch 2 only to start the drip feed of the same games over again to come over..
So the fact that switch games will work on this leaves me to think this is ether a more powerful switch because switch games have games where you need to use detachable joycons, or this could be a more powerful home system with nunchucks like controller system like the Wii had.
the think the details at a later date will be that some games will be enhanced. but it's up to the devs/publishers to do so. Nintendo games are the most likely ones to be updated like that
The Switch's successor, named Super Nintendo Switch, will be announced in February 2025, it will be released in September 2025 with a Super Mario launch title. A new Zelda game will be announced shortly after with a release scheduled aptly in time for x-mas 2025.
Crossing my fingers that they add the SuperScope games to SNES at some point. Duck Hunt worked so well on Wii U with a Wii controller. I loved it and played it al the time.
heres the thing - Everyone wants a new Switch to play the latest games, right?? So if you want to play old games, wouldnt u just keep ur OG switch? BOOM Mic drop!! im the man!!
THis is great news, because it means they won't do anything weird and kooky like they did with the Wii U, and the Wii. I just hope they come out with a home version. If they skipped the screen, it could be an entry level model thing.
@@shrekrealista5045 What original ones :D? Yeah trilogy is not that bad, still needs a bunch of updates. I meant to say would be cool to compare performance of GTA Trilogy on Switch vs Switch2 and all that.
Good. I have a good collection of Switch games, the least I want is to get ANOTHER new Switch, and get this “successor” as well. (My Switch is, well, a little bit over used. I was waiting to hear about the new one before I decided to buy a new one…)
And with that they have a sale 😂. I had to sell my switch because of some health issues... Now I'm glad my library will have life again when switch 2 comes out.
The hope is that the successor will play OG Switch games more smoothly because that is indeed how it worked going 360 to Xbox One, and then One/PS4 to Series/PS5. Some games had specific patches to make use of the extra power of their successive systems, but all games that remained playable ran as well as they were originally programmed to be able to possibly do, i.e. eliminating frame and resolution drops.
I'm still waiting for Switch 2 to play some games at higher resolution, more stable frame rates, and faster loading, like Xenoblade 3, Bayonetta 3, etc.
I think many miss the point about playing old games on a new system. the only reason current games struggle is because of the hardware they run on, ram, the clock speeds and bottle necking for example. I would argue, any current games played on better hardware will automatically run much much better.....without and additional patches/changes.
You can run scarlet and violate on a pc, and it doesn't make it run any better. Some games are just bad games, and since Z-A is only being developed for switch 1, it's going to join them.
@ I agree with that. But can’t say that about 99% of games on Swhich. A broken game is a broken game, BOTW isn’t broken and would easily run better on newer hardware. Deku tree forest is a prime example of it choking.
This is all Great we got AMAZING NEWS FOR THE SWITCH 2 CONSIDERING THAT NINTENDO DIDNT FUCKING POST PICTURES ON WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IT LOOKS LIKE BEFORE MAKING OUR CONSUMER COMMITMENTS INTO BUYING THE SWITCH 2 JEEEEZZUS.
Your random clips of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe running at their buttery 60fps got me totally hyped for how likely it'd be that their next mainline entry could arrive as a release title. They've had PLENTY of time to make it happen, and they know it's a stupidly accessible game to have anyone and everyone simply flock to their new hardware. I'd genuinely be shocked if it wasn't part of the lineup.
Back when the Switch came out, I was looking for something to play and tried Fortnite on it. I was pleasantly surprised to see the game's voice chat working perfectly with in ear headphones that had a built in mic and also sorely disappointed Nintendo never did the same thing for their games.
Why is this news? When did we ever think the switch 2 wasn’t going to be able to play switch games? I mean all the DS models were all backwards compatible with DS games?
The compatibility question for me is whether you can redownload digital games. Physical compatibility is nice but I've got digital games I don't want to buy again too
I think this will apply to both Physical and Digital games. I hope so because I believe we all should have our choice being included in the next system.
He’s referring to some games may have cross play possibilities, games, where you can play on the switch to against people with the original switch online
hold on to your switch folks, i dont think we're getting 100% compatibility, i think theres gonna be compatibility lists but first party games will have a seamless experience
If I’m mistaken, I believe the Wii bumped the resolution of GameCube games. If I recall correctly. Didn’t have to worry about 60FPS boost since almost every Nintendo game already ran at 60 FPS.
I just hope to god the “Nintendo store” carries over previous purchases. Otherwise I’m done buying Nintendo digital software. Knowing Nintendo’s track record, it seems unlikely…
3:44 Bro's literally only ever heard of Nintendo hardware. Nintendo's consoles aren't made in a vacuum, the software use to create these games are already implementing future-proofing technology to make them naturally run better on future hardware. Look at how many uncapped PS4 games run at a locked 60fps on PS5.
I understand what you're saying, but understand that he's specifically talking about Nintendo hardware here. GBA didn't improve performance of GB/C games, nor did the DS, nor did the 3DS improve DS games. Same with GameCube games on Wii and Wii games on Wii U.
@@icee113the only real performance boosting system I can think of is the New 3DS. It was essentially my monster hunter machine because it could run MH4U at a better frame rate than the old 3DS.
@@BlaizeTheDragon Exactly, and that's what it was designed to be. A system that enhances current games with (a few) exclusives of its own. Imo, I think part of it existing was an experiment so to speak, because not only is it the first time Nintendo hardware played previous Nintendo software better, it's the most recent. Which gives me hope this new Switch system is designed to do exactly that, but with a larger emphasis on phasing out the original and having genuine exclusives
@@icee113 Again, Nintendo's consoles aren't made in a vacuum. It's fine to compare the older hardware's backwards compatibility but the architecture of those systems has absolutely nothing in common with the architecture used to power modern hardware, most of which is inherently designed to be forward compatible and iterated upon.
8:44 100% agree Alex! I initially felt weird about not “owning” things. But “owning” only really meant for the time that particular console was my main console… if NSO is going to just continue to grow, I’m all in.
The cartridges are so tiny that it wouldn't take up much room if they decided to. For the bare minimum they could put one on the dock, or sell a switch cartridge reader as usb c accessory.
I'm excited about the backwards compatibility! I am curious to hear your thoughts on what Nintendo may do with the new system. Do you think it will have motion detection? It seems to me they're using Alarmo as a technology bridge for the new system.
I’m glad they have made it compatible, if they didn’t I probably would have skipped the next console - have so many games on the switch that I’m still playing I wouldn’t need it
This is awesome. I was thinking of getting my 4-year-old a switch lite, since she loves playing her games on my OLED, but now I can just give it to her....when I get a switch 2 😉 I'll endure having to share for now lol
This channel is all about vibes. You guys are doing that well. When it comes to critical thought about these things, well at the very least it's lacking. "I'd like to hear about your feeling about this?"
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All Nintendo has to do is make a more powerful Switch.
People still love the handheld/docked concept, we just need more power.
But they have to market it well, we can’t have a rerun of the Wii U.
Definetely. If they don’t market it well, they could risk people thinking it’s another Switch model like the Switch OLED or Switch Lite.
Nintendo’s target audience is very casual (with exceptions of course), so they need to make it VERY clear that this is the next generation of Nintendo. I’m sure they already know this, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t use the name “Switch” at all.
Yeah, they need to have a good marketing plan in place to differentiate the successor from the original. I remember not even realizing the Wii U was its own console until like a month after it was announced. Thought it was just a new accessory.
Yeah, but some new features wouldn’t hurt.
Call it the Switch uWu!!
@@V1Salvo it prob won't happen again since most people are on social media anyways not like it was back in 2012
Incredibly impressive that y'all managed to turn one tweet into a 16 minute long video lmao
You must be new here, Nintendo traveler
right? and it's something everybody knew would happen
Appreciate that this was not click bait and from the official source 🎉
This is such a huge deal for me. My backlog isn’t huge, but it’s big enough to where I would be pretty upset if it wasn’t backwards compatible. Besides that, I have so many games I want to replay, like Metroid Dread and Xenoblade 2. Having those on a bigger screen with possibly boosted performance, even if just a little, would be gold.
Do you mind writing me a list of your favorite switch games so far? Could be a top 10 or top 20 (the more the merrier honestly) would be a great starting point for me. Planning to get back into gaming after 10 years :)
@@silvrsurfer
1. Zelda Breath of the Wild
2. Zelda Tears of the Kingdom
3. Mario Odyssey
4. Metroid Dread
5. Persona 5 Royal
6. Pokémon Legends Arceus
7. Zelda Echoes of Wisdom
8. Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze
9. Super Mario Bros. Wonder
10. Xenoblade definitive Edition
11. Super Mario 3D World
12. Eastward
13. Links Awakening
14. (If you dig Multiplayer) Splatoon 3, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and Super Smash Bros.
Not necessarily in order, just games that I really like.
I waited for you guys to make a video about this to make it feel officially confirmed lol
How sad
So you trust Nintendo Life more than Nintendo themselves? 😂
@ no I just don’t have twitter lol
@@thomasbalzer3179 ):
Same
Why are there people worried about physical BC? If Switch 2 was digital BC only, then Nintendo would've said that. The biggest reason they announced backwards compatible is because they want to encourage us to buy Nintendo games for this holdiay season.
To Japan, software means games. It can also mean physical media. Nintendo has always put both physical and digital games together as software sales. When people say hardware, they usually mean consoles. Cartridges hold the software inside. Japan also use an entirely different word to usually mean digital, so it wouldn't have translated to software. Everybody seems to be overthinking this.
I doubt Switch 2 will be digital only, Nintendo isn't stupid like Sony and Microsoft who are hellbent on destroying their brands.
They want drama
If they meant cartridges they should have said so, what a stupid way to translate it.
Unless they did mean digital only.
Never assume. We can hope they include physical, but unless they specify it clearly, we won't know for sure. If the community shows apprehension, then Nintendo will know that physical BC is an important feature for the community
@@HerrFinsternis You can always find something to get angry about i guess: Stupid nintendo with their stupid translations!!!!
I have no doubts that if theyre doing backwards compatability it will be for physical games too. Even if the new cartrages are a different size they can have both like the ds with gba games
3:43 - things are different this time. Let me explain: Previous generations of consoles achieved backwards compatibility by running the older chip alongside the new one. Since it was the same old chip, it had the same performance. This time, backwards compatibility is almost surely being achieved by running a newer generation of the ARM CPU (and nVidia GPU). Since it's a newer generation of the same chip, they can run the code directly on the new chip and don't need to run an older chip alongside the newer one. Since the code is running on a much more powerful CPU/GPU, if it was struggling to maintain performance on the older system - it will automatically see gains on the new system, which won't struggle as much.
This is very much akin to upgrading your PC and seeing performance gains on the new system. And although I would really like Nintendo to refresh their games to take better advantage of the new hardware, I also expect that even without changes many games will benefit from simply running on better hardware.
MAN, I hope you're right! Performance upgrades were very needed on a variety of Switch games
But will it play the switch 1 game cartridges?
@@WilliamElsman That's one of the things that Nintendo has to confirm, but I don't see why they would have us abandon our Switch 1 cartridges after all that talk about backwards compatibility and not resetting their relationship with their customers.
Nintendo Switch 2 should be called "Super Nintendo Switch" (SNS for short, as SNES was back in the 90's).
How on earth would that not market well?
It doesn't really roll of they tongue, but I'm down for the SuperSwitch!
Although SS for short is a bit problematic 😅
That would be awesome! Although the SNES was the 90's
@@paul-vn5hm you are right. I was thinking about the NES.
@@TrollMagic1987 both classics!
Omg awesome name
I get good value out of NSO, and I prefer it to rebuying the same games over and over again, but, as awkward a system as it is, I think they could learn from Sony on this one. I don't subscribe to PS+ anymore, and I appreciate that I can buy select PS1 and PS2 games from their digital store instead. And it pulls from purchases I made back on the PS3 and PSP. The price of NSO is a bargain compared to PS+ Premium, but I still think it would be nice to provide options for those who would rather just have full access to an old favourite without recurring fees.
Yes yes yes yes yes ...and some want physical copies of old school games they need to do all+stars Mario n all+stars Zelda collection PHYSICAL!
Agreed... I could even get suckered into paying for a subscription service AND making "complete purchases" of specific games if I wanted to. Like, I'll keep paying NSO for the off-chance I'll try out new games as they get added, but I'll still go ahead and drop 8 bucks for a "permanent" license for Majora's Mask that lasts for as long as I have a basic free Nintendo account and a console to play it on.
@@SomeRUclipsTraveler Make that Eighty.
I mean, to be fair these companies have plenty of time to make money off of all those old titles. So my solution is just downloading libraries of games for my own personal collection. We owe nothing to these corporations.
@@Jokerwolf666 Ah yes hello fellow pirate, aye aye
If the game's max frame rate is locked, then a simple patch to bump up the frame rate to 60 fps would be very much appreciated.
Its interesting that you both assumed Furakuwa's comment on 'further compatibility at a later date' meant that there could be some omissions. I assumed the opposite, as in software and NSO are definite and then other stuff, joycons, pro, and amiibo etc would also be compatible in various degrees, like joycons can't attach obvs.
I took it a similar way as them. I assume things like games that used specific controller features like the ir sensor in the right joycon.
@TAJHADproductions that's fair, but assuming the current joy cons are compatible, then there's no reason why any games that use those would not be backwards compatible.
Even if it’s smaller details. It’s nice to have Nintendo openly communicating like this.
In terms of how they would do physical, I mean they’ve done it multiple times with handhelds. Make the chip part basically the same but change other parts of the cart so that they can’t be inserted into the old system.
finally, official news
i just hope the hardware would be sensible for the next 4-5 years, not the past 5 years
Hopefully I’ll also be able to transfer my downloaded games onto this new system!
The problem I have with subscriptions like NSO is that you don't get to keep the games or game data whenever the service shuts down. Paying for NSO expansion for 8 years is $400. Virtual Console was way cheaper in the long run for most people.
After all they are rentals. I'm sure I left more money for renting video games back in the day and only had the games for a weekend. I don't wanna summarize all the years to learn how much money I spent for something I don't own.
But I get what you mean with prefering VC purchases and having the better longterm value.
I also hate how you can only buy the expansion pack one year at a time. I know that I'm not going to spend an entire year playing N64 games, if they just let me pay for a week or a month and then cancel my subscription it would be a lot better value.
I wish you could buy the games outright like on the 3DS.
What I doubt will happen but really hope for is that some Switch games might get Switch 2 specific updates which would let them run at a higher resolution or fps.
Lol thats been their entire strategy for literally the entire life of the switch.
Half of switchs best games are wiiu ports from 10 years ago at this point.
@@MikeVideos327 ...that's not what I meant.
I mean I don't need to buy the game again to play it in slightly higher quality.
Not sayin I like Nintendo for it, but at least they don't slap "remastered" on the box for some extra pixels.
Yes we should be able to slap in old switch carts and for them to run natively better with better frame rates and resolution on the successor just by taking advantage of the extra power. Similar to what PS5 pro is doing with PS5 games.
@@jairekambui7738 "Similar to what PS5 pro is doing with PS5 games."
That's good practice! I'm quire surprised to hear that considering how often PS games have been resold the same game with the settings turned up and slapped "remastered" on the box.
Some games chug so hard on Switch that they will improve just from being able to run as smooth 30 on the Switch 2
THIS was a big sell for me! Now I feel confident I can continue buying new games on cartridges and not make my life more complex (assuming this includes cartridges).
Games will be as big as a vinyl.
Oh awesome! Hearing this news and you guys cover it makes my day a lot better! Can’t wait for the next system.
Already heard about it, but appreciate you guys making a video for anyone who hadn't. Also nice to listen to you guys discuss it.
Nintendo is the company that crammed a GBA cartridge slot onto the DS. Why would anybody think they might not make the new system fully backwards compatible with Switch?
Not sure if it's likely for Nintendo to patch old games to run better on new hardware, but I'd be surprised if Metroid Prime 4 isn't getting it's own tailor made version for the new console.
It's weird watching all these youtubers talking about how Switch 2 is being announced just around the corner. Like... dude, they're not gonna announce it before Christmas. That said, the new Switch will have the same type of chip. I suspect a lot of old games will simply be able to perform better because the chip is more powerful. I suspect in some cases for big games like breath of the wild they might do upgraded options where they redo textures and stuff like that. In a lot of cases they can just change the max resolution games run at and they'll just naturally look better.
thank you for covering this!
That’s like saying the controllers will have buttons. Backward compatibility is a given
Labo is also completely reliant on the IR camera, so even without physical changes, if you get rid of that then you'd lose compatibility.
This lets us know that some or all of the games coming or rumored will actually launch on switch 2.. smart move Nintendo. I'm betting old controllers and joycons will work also.
I can't wait. I own so many games for the switch and can be put somewhat at ease
They should make it where you can play DS and 3DS games that should be backwards compatible.
They really needed this. I have been waiting to buy switch games because I was scared that I would just have to buy them again for the switch 2
IR is used in WarioWare Move It, and I can't imagine life without it.
So glad the console wasn’t announced in October, the US election and its fallout will dominate conversation for the foreseeable. Let’s hope we’re not thrown into ww3 before the switch 2 gets released though 😅
WW3? Really? It's all theatre. Been hearing it since the 1970s.
@@SandrosCoronado Ok 👍
Trump was there for 4 years before, remember ?
Remember when the last few years happened ? Yeah, not under Trump.
why does every person who didn’t get their candidate threaten ww3
On the brightside it'll be a portable so you can play it while drafted
Physically though?
Digital is all fun and nice
but what about all those
piles of "Physical Cartridges"?
I think if it was going to be just digital, they would’ve specified.
The switch is still 50/50 physical and digital compared to the other platforms favouring digital so its unlikely that it'll be only digital when nintendo still heavily relies on boxed sales
@@sidescreamerful notice how they specifically only said "software" though.
I fully expect backwards compatibility to be limited to digital, but i'd be happy to be wrong
@@ci4pp3r If so, i will not buy the Switch II. Would be a mess for many player.
@@ci4pp3rthat would be pure madness 😅 aint no way nintendo give the middle finger to literally half the fan base. 70 million people unable to play their switch games on switch 2? Not happening
NSO’s system is a symptom of the death of Virtual Console, not the cause. When everyone else realized they can package and sell their old games on multiple platforms without VC’s label, it became pointless to try to continue the model with just Nintendo’s first party lineup and whatever smattering of third party gets they had available.
Great to have DIRECT WORDED confirmation of bacwards compatiblity. I think they held of this long; because now they know they won't be selling that many more Switch systems; but they most certainly will be selling more Switch 1 games (especially with some of the best games still to come after decades of people waiting for ports and collections of Capcom's and other companies' finest). Although I am hoping Nintendo throws us a bone and sell us the Switch 2 dock months ahead of launch, and make it so that it can be used with the Switch 1 in docked mode to get stable 60ps in overclocked mode and then advertised that the Switch 2 will be able to run Switch 1 games at a stable 60fps in both docked and handheld mode, AS WELL as have DLSS patches for some of the more notable games. I mean; there has to be a reason that the Switch 1 had an "update dock firmware" option added to it about 2 years ago no? Then when the Switch 2 comes out; they can sell it without a dock for $300 and with the dock for $400. Oh and yes; carts will work as Nintendo has doubled down on phsyical game production and even partner up with LImited Run games officially (look it up) to help with this endeavor.
Its 2024, they no longer need to put a notch or something to stop people from putting a new cart in an old switch, they can be the exact same shape and just give an error message that says "not compatible with the original switch" on the screen or something along those lines?
Why is this video 16 minutes long?? 😭 yall gave me all the info i need from the title alone
You wouldn’t need a patch for faster loading times/more stable frame rates, if the hardware was faster and especially if the onboard hardware will support Switch games natively, and won’t be emulated. That should be a given for the existing library, so even if there isn’t a “pro mode patch” for games, we should expect faster loading times and less/no frame rate dips at launch. I’d expect/hope that they will allow download patches that improve things like graphics, fidelity, frame rate caps and maybe even support for higher resolution visuals, in whatever way they end up doing such a thing (probably some sort of AI upscaling with DLSS). I’m sure we’ll get plenty of ports that support a lot of these things being sold, so it’s unclear what any upgrades would look like from the get go as far as how much we’re going to pay for them.
Video ends at 1:24
No it doesn't
@@Rusty84CVThat joke flew by you like a jet.
I have a feeling the next switch will be called the switch pro.
Considering it would be hardware back compat rather than any emulation, I'd suggest that 99% of games will work. The bigger question is will there be any boosts to old games?
I'm not surprised, but it's so AWESOME to see that Switch 2 will play Switch games too it's just obvious just like in a good old days with DS/3DS and Wii/Wii U this is a PERFECT choise thank you Nintendo! 😆❤
So it will flop like the 3DS and Wii u then.
@borisgrishenko9430 no it will not flop because it's Switch a SUCCEFFUL console
@@Leopez02 Just because the Switch is a success doesn't mean the next console won't flop. Nintendo has a poor track for launching new systems.
Totally expected. Maybe not for people who follow and watch sensationalist content only made for clicks and drama. (Not NLife you guys are cool.)
Well from a guy that does non of those. I didn't expect this considering they keep taking down emulators and stuff
What does illegal emulators have to do with BC?
@@takeyourheart114it's been obvious for a couple of years now.. The success of the switch 2 is reliant on backwards compatability.. No way people would be ok with buying a switch 2 only to start the drip feed of the same games over again to come over..
This news alone is already enough to get to me to preorder the damn thing.
Imagine the Labo VR with a 1080p screen
So the fact that switch games will work on this leaves me to think this is ether a more powerful switch because switch games have games where you need to use detachable joycons, or this could be a more powerful home system with nunchucks like controller system like the Wii had.
the think the details at a later date will be that some games will be enhanced. but it's up to the devs/publishers to do so. Nintendo games are the most likely ones to be updated like that
The Switch's successor, named Super Nintendo Switch, will be announced in February 2025, it will be released in September 2025 with a Super Mario launch title. A new Zelda game will be announced shortly after with a release scheduled aptly in time for x-mas 2025.
I don't get why so many people thought this wasn't gonna be the case.
Probably because about half the time, it isn't.
“Nintendo Switch software” that is a careful choice of words they used.
It would be crazy not to, but it's nice to see official confirmation!
I'm so happy it's gonna be backwards compatible 🥳👍
Crossing my fingers that they add the SuperScope games to SNES at some point. Duck Hunt worked so well on Wii U with a Wii controller. I loved it and played it al the time.
I'd love Duck Hunt with USB lightguns designed for modern displays.
I get so excited when I hear "Hello there lovely people"
heres the thing - Everyone wants a new Switch to play the latest games, right?? So if you want to play old games, wouldnt u just keep ur OG switch? BOOM Mic drop!! im the man!!
Same here. If I wanted to play Switch games I would just my Switch and save the money.
THis is great news, because it means they won't do anything weird and kooky like they did with the Wii U, and the Wii. I just hope they come out with a home version. If they skipped the screen, it could be an entry level model thing.
I'm surprised Nintendo never released a dock only Switch with a Pro Controller bundled in instead of Joycons.
2:48 The idea of having GTA Trilogy on it already is so awesome for some reason
The original ones or the Defective Edition?
@@shrekrealista5045 What original ones :D? Yeah trilogy is not that bad, still needs a bunch of updates. I meant to say would be cool to compare performance of GTA Trilogy on Switch vs Switch2 and all that.
@@shrekrealista5045 Another missing game for Switch1 is GTA4 remaster. Switch2 probably gonna have GTA5 and GTA6 versions
Good to hear as I have a huge backlog of Switch games that can now continue on as untouched Switch 2 backlog 😂
This will definitely benefit Metroid Prime 4. I was convinced that would be the big launch title on the successor as well as on the switch
Good, I don't need to start my backlog again, I can just carry it over!
Great news for my 200+ Switch library with 0 finished games 😂
My question is when will be Amico coming out?
Good. I have a good collection of Switch games, the least I want is to get ANOTHER new Switch, and get this “successor” as well. (My Switch is, well, a little bit over used. I was waiting to hear about the new one before I decided to buy a new one…)
And with that they have a sale 😂. I had to sell my switch because of some health issues... Now I'm glad my library will have life again when switch 2 comes out.
The hope is that the successor will play OG Switch games more smoothly because that is indeed how it worked going 360 to Xbox One, and then One/PS4 to Series/PS5. Some games had specific patches to make use of the extra power of their successive systems, but all games that remained playable ran as well as they were originally programmed to be able to possibly do, i.e. eliminating frame and resolution drops.
Backwards compatible with the carts or just digital? That's important
I'm ready for Ultimate Switch 2!! 🎧😎🎙️
I'm still waiting for Switch 2 to play some games at higher resolution, more stable frame rates, and faster loading, like Xenoblade 3, Bayonetta 3, etc.
Metal Arms is a little more stable on Wii than on Gamecube. There you have it.
I imagine if Nintendo rebrands NSO it will just be called Nintendo Online
0:09 I literally just woke up😂
This was at 9 pm during the night, I was watching the election
I think many miss the point about playing old games on a new system. the only reason current games struggle is because of the hardware they run on, ram, the clock speeds and bottle necking for example. I would argue, any current games played on better hardware will automatically run much much better.....without and additional patches/changes.
You can run scarlet and violate on a pc, and it doesn't make it run any better. Some games are just bad games, and since Z-A is only being developed for switch 1, it's going to join them.
@ I agree with that. But can’t say that about 99% of games on Swhich. A broken game is a broken game, BOTW isn’t broken and would easily run better on newer hardware. Deku tree forest is a prime example of it choking.
Disagree BOTW is a crap game and always will be.
Well it won't run better automatically. Nintendo would have to release a patch to make it run better with the Switch 2 but Nintendo could find a way.
@@ProjectionProjects2.7182 Would you be willing to pay for the upgrade ?
I wonder if the Nintendo Switch will also work as an accessory to stream Nintendo Switch 2 games on it, like the PlayStation Portal
What????
That's why they are so desperate to end emulation, the next console is probably going to be emulated in the same month after release 😂
Is really nice how Nintendo officially confirmed it, i'm looking forward for more Switch 2 news!
Day 1 purchase for me, I see no wrong going forward honestly.
If it's not called the Super Nintendo Switch, I'll be very disappointed
This is all Great we got AMAZING NEWS FOR THE SWITCH 2 CONSIDERING THAT NINTENDO DIDNT FUCKING POST PICTURES ON WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IT LOOKS LIKE BEFORE MAKING OUR CONSUMER COMMITMENTS INTO BUYING THE SWITCH 2 JEEEEZZUS.
Your random clips of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe running at their buttery 60fps got me totally hyped for how likely it'd be that their next mainline entry could arrive as a release title. They've had PLENTY of time to make it happen, and they know it's a stupidly accessible game to have anyone and everyone simply flock to their new hardware. I'd genuinely be shocked if it wasn't part of the lineup.
Back when the Switch came out, I was looking for something to play and tried Fortnite on it. I was pleasantly surprised to see the game's voice chat working perfectly with in ear headphones that had a built in mic and also sorely disappointed Nintendo never did the same thing for their games.
Why is this news? When did we ever think the switch 2 wasn’t going to be able to play switch games? I mean all the DS models were all backwards compatible with DS games?
Nintendo switch ultimate! Every game is here!
SwitchU for short
Switch Up
Just woke up under a rock.... My bad...
The compatibility question for me is whether you can redownload digital games. Physical compatibility is nice but I've got digital games I don't want to buy again too
I think this will apply to both Physical and Digital games. I hope so because I believe we all should have our choice being included in the next system.
He’s referring to some games may have cross play possibilities, games, where you can play on the switch to against people with the original switch online
This is what I've been waiting for. Now I feel more comfortable in continuing to buy games on the switch.
hold on to your switch folks, i dont think we're getting 100% compatibility, i think theres gonna be compatibility lists but first party games will have a seamless experience
This is the approach Xbox takes. Nintendo have a track record of backward compatibility since the Wii and DS
I could see "compatibility problems" with things like Labo and the joycons and stuff
I want to know if you can transfer all to the switch 2
If I’m mistaken, I believe the Wii bumped the resolution of GameCube games. If I recall correctly. Didn’t have to worry about 60FPS boost since almost every Nintendo game already ran at 60 FPS.
I just hope to god the “Nintendo store” carries over previous purchases. Otherwise I’m done buying Nintendo digital software.
Knowing Nintendo’s track record, it seems unlikely…
Whatever the case, it's always nice to see backwards compatible. That's a big bonus.
Of course it will, why wouldnt it
3:44 Bro's literally only ever heard of Nintendo hardware. Nintendo's consoles aren't made in a vacuum, the software use to create these games are already implementing future-proofing technology to make them naturally run better on future hardware. Look at how many uncapped PS4 games run at a locked 60fps on PS5.
I understand what you're saying, but understand that he's specifically talking about Nintendo hardware here. GBA didn't improve performance of GB/C games, nor did the DS, nor did the 3DS improve DS games. Same with GameCube games on Wii and Wii games on Wii U.
@@icee113the only real performance boosting system I can think of is the New 3DS. It was essentially my monster hunter machine because it could run MH4U at a better frame rate than the old 3DS.
@@BlaizeTheDragon Exactly, and that's what it was designed to be. A system that enhances current games with (a few) exclusives of its own. Imo, I think part of it existing was an experiment so to speak, because not only is it the first time Nintendo hardware played previous Nintendo software better, it's the most recent. Which gives me hope this new Switch system is designed to do exactly that, but with a larger emphasis on phasing out the original and having genuine exclusives
@@icee113 Again, Nintendo's consoles aren't made in a vacuum. It's fine to compare the older hardware's backwards compatibility but the architecture of those systems has absolutely nothing in common with the architecture used to power modern hardware, most of which is inherently designed to be forward compatible and iterated upon.
8:44 100% agree Alex! I initially felt weird about not “owning” things. But “owning” only really meant for the time that particular console was my main console… if NSO is going to just continue to grow, I’m all in.
I wondered if it will be like the DS taking gameboy cartridges. Perhaps a separate port?
The cartridges are so tiny that it wouldn't take up much room if they decided to. For the bare minimum they could put one on the dock, or sell a switch cartridge reader as usb c accessory.
Have you asked yourself it could be like the 3DS taking DS cartridges on the same port?
I'm excited about the backwards compatibility!
I am curious to hear your thoughts on what Nintendo may do with the new system. Do you think it will have motion detection? It seems to me they're using Alarmo as a technology bridge for the new system.
Let's go! Splatoon 2 on the Switch 2!
X)
You're kidding right?
@AnormaIPerson3121 Why would I be joking about Splatoon 2?
@@walkerpierce5446 Because you literally got a sequel?
@AnormaIPerson3121 Ah, but 2 is still unique and fun in it's own ways.
I’m glad they have made it compatible, if they didn’t I probably would have skipped the next console - have so many games on the switch that I’m still playing I wouldn’t need it
This is awesome. I was thinking of getting my 4-year-old a switch lite, since she loves playing her games on my OLED, but now I can just give it to her....when I get a switch 2 😉 I'll endure having to share for now lol
This channel is all about vibes. You guys are doing that well. When it comes to critical thought about these things, well at the very least it's lacking. "I'd like to hear about your feeling about this?"