15 ASU students now banned from campus after arrests from weekend protest
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
- 72 people were arrested during Pro-Palestinian protests on ASU campus over the weekend. According to a letter sent to students by the Dean of Students, students appear to be banned from campus.
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Breaking the law is not free speech.
Unless it’s burning down city blocks and a federal courthouse because a Black man was killed. 😎👍
Trespassing is not a right in this country!
It’s their university
@@kendellfriend5558If you’re asked to leave and don't you're breaking the law. It's private property, child mind.
Protesters have no right to interfere with other people's rights.
Protesting is a right.
Exactly
@@teabaggg23 An illegal encampment is not a right. They knew the encampment was illegal when they set it up. They were not arrested for protesting; they were arrested for refusing to leave their illegal encampment. Other students also have a right to use the area.
Not on private property.
@@teabaggg23 but what are they supporting? "The Arab countries were firmly convinced that Germany would win the war and that the Arab cause would then prosper. The Arabs were Germany’s natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely the English, the Jews and the Communists. Therefore they were prepared to cooperate with Germany with all their hearts and stood ready to participate in the war, not only negatively by the commission of acts of sabotage and the instigation of revolutions, but also positively by the formation of an Arab Legion."
Campus is private property and your access to it is subject to their rules.
The Law also applies to private property...
@@manuel_p537 Free speech does not apply to company employees and to behavior on private property. Regardless, camping is not free speech. Free speech is speech, behavior is controllable.
Ah i have misinterpreted your comment xD we are on the same side here.
Private property owned by who. Our universities are not owned by any private parties. They are answerable to the government and to our lawyers, and I guarantee they're going to be paying out the nose for doing this.
@@user-xu4ju8wc7m You sign an agreement before stepping foot on the university to follow all their rules. Welcome, slave.
Play stupid games...
Exactly, they need to be banned! Trashing the campus for what, that isn't a lawful protest.
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agreed. All these children are doing nothing but wasting their parents hard earned money but wanting to be a domestic terrorist.
Sit in a cubicle all your life and complain...
Good for ASU. Uphold your rules/regulations. We do not want to turn into Portland or NYC
Hahahah
Agree. The place have been peaceful until this evil thoughts and ideology came in.
Dear students you are morally right and I am so proud in these days there are people left in the world that are brave enough to point out and shout against evil.
@@JBFD64 This evil thoughts and ideology? They're protesting genocide, man.
Not free speech violation, follow policy protest legally! Deport and expel!
Ok russian troll. Good one, comrade.
Exactly
No russian troll here dipshit@@teabaggg23
@teabaggg23 🤡
You have the right to protest,
But not block traffic or trespass.
The Constitution does not mention "protest". It guarantees us the right to peaceably assemble.
Newsflash. They don't have to be found guilty to be trespassed.
News flash you actually have to be committing a crime that is a state or federal statute in order to be trespassed off of public property. ASU is not private property it is a public school. The supreme Court has already ruled that in order to trespass anybody off of public property they have to be committing a crime. Just because they broke a school rule does not meet the threshold of a crime. First amendment auditors on RUclips do it all the time there are policies at some public buildings and they cannot trespass you because you are not following their policy. It has to be a crime.. those students were not committing a specific crime they were trespassed off of public property because of an encampment that the school deemed to be against school rules. Show news flash you can't be trespassed from public property and threatened with arrest or arrested unless you're committing a crime on public property. Like I said the school making a rule that you can't have an encampment does not meet that threshold. Cities and towns have paid money to lots of first amendment auditors for that exact reason. You have a right under the Constitution to protest peacefully. It doesn't say you are not allowed to have an encampment to protest in the Constitution. The campus police charge them with trespassing that is not allowed, they will be paying out judgments to a lot of people for violating their constitutional right to protest on public property. There are lots of videos and then you have to charge each person individually and have proof individually for each person they can't say well the crowd was doing it. And I don't even support these protests on college campuses lots of people have tests and things that they were studying and they were interrupted. They are not allowed to trespass you from public property unless you are committing a crime under state or federal law. So like I said just because the school has a ruler regulation that the students weren't following does not meet the threshold of a crime under state or federal law in order to be trespassed. A simple Google search will tell you in order to trespass someone from public property you have to be committing a crime. It is really really bad and they are going to pay a lot of money to these adult toddlers who were protesting and it's going to take money away from other activities that the school could be funding. Like I said I don't support the protests I wish somebody would have thought about that before they started arresting people
@@sarabrant723 Time place and manner restrictions as well. And they pretty much occupied an area not intended for the purpose of camping. They are trespassed legally. Nothing illegal about it. Go suck on the bottle now little baby.
@@sarabrant723 Lawful trespass was issued. They cannot go back. Time, place, and manner restrictions apply. And they also broke the law by occupying buildings and committing criminal damage. They are law breakers! Go cry in your little corner.
That lawyer is a clown
He should be counter sued by ASU
No doubt and we can see why!!
no, he is a paid part of the whole thing, Bet he was on retainer before the first protestor showed up.
Saw the lawyers beard and already knew who sides he was on 😂
his name was a big clue
1000%!
Maybe they should have thought about suspension prior to engaging in an encampment! I’m all for peaceful protests, but setting up tents and disturbing the PAYING STUDENTS during finals week and graduation is completely over the line. Good for ASU for not tolerating it!
"All for peaceful protests" - something tells me you've never protested anything, anywhere, ever.
It’s called consequences. Students get suspended for far less than these terrorist lovers. Free speech & trespassing on private property are completely different. For example, the hotel you paid to stay can get you arrested for trespassing if they ask you to leave. No questions ask. They don’t even have to allow you back to get your things. Maybe go back to class and learn something.
This IS what they're learning. Cameras in the classrooms and lecture halls. Why don't they want you to see what these sic bastards are teaching our kids. It starts in the K- 12. We should definitely have cameras in those classrooms , but the democrats don't want to expose their agenda. Folks, we've lost a generation to these ideals. Face it. Quit voting for them unless you want this as the new Americans
Exactly
Is it lawful to camp on that lawn? Hey, there are people in jail over 2 years without any charges, just for being in the vicinity of the US Capitol on the infamous “J6”. This seems like equal justice.
The students should have thought about this before they started
All organized criminals definitely not students
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I heard they were working for Tony Soprano!!!
Yes, they broke school laws. Read your handbook. This guy ia a liar
Mr attorney guy, the 1st Amendment Free Speech is NOT a defense of consequences!
It’s in our constitution you leper
You can feel his hate for America seeping through
Taking over campus/buildings/rooms/libraries not letting people go to class that wants to learn is unlawful.
No. It is a public institution that is there to serve us. The people. It's what we make of it. Laws are written by... PEOPLE! That's US. If a law sucks, we get to change it. That's why democracy rules!
@teabaggg23 that's not the way to do it, as you saw it didn't accomplish anything but get themselves banned.
@@teabaggg23 If Democracy rules, then what is your problem? The people have spoken. Just because you think your side is right doesn't mean it is right, and that it's the majority opinion. Most people in this country have put up with this B.S. for no reason other than politeness. They let you people burn down cities, assault people, shut down speech for everyone that disagrees with you, etc. Now, when you get the book thrown at you, your defense is... "Free Speech?" No one takes you people seriously anymore. No one but yourselves.
Literal walking contradictions and oxymorons. I can't.
@@lewisbale1 The right to free speech does not give anyone a free pass or immunity to destroy property or infringe upon anyone's rights. Case close.
Choices have consequences
Reap what u sow
Can someone please tell that First Amendment lawyer to go back to law school? 1) While everyone has free speech, you do not have the right to infringe on the rights of others- which these protestors are violating. Classic example, you cannot yell fire in a public place to cause mass panic. 2) Did these students seek and obtain a permit to protest on the school grounds? That permit is part of the normal/ legal process for voicing a group's views in a public manner while respecting the First Amendment. 3) These same protestors are violating the ASU code of conduct. In short, you do the crime, you need to do the time. Court will just be a formality.
I don't think the comparison tracks. Freedom of speech and religious freedom intersect in this context, not for all but for at least some of the students. I don't think there is an ABOR student conduct policy against peaceful protesting or freedom of speech/freedom of religion. ASU is subject to both state and federal civil rights statutes since they receive federal funding. Students should have due process even if they are charged with a conduct violation. A few years back many colleges and universities were sued for NOT following due process in Title IX cases so there is already a precedent for the universities who choose not to follow their own due process policies.
@@christiemeninick46 Umm...legal eagle, did you got to ABA accredited law school? If so, then you know my points are rock solid. Time, place and manner of expressing your free speech matter. In short, these protestors violated these components. Mic drop anyone?
@@AF53501 did you go to law school for Higher Education law or work in HED compliance? Nope. I can tell.
@@christiemeninick46 1) Wrong, I did attend a top 50 law school...whoops. Do you need me to write my IRAC memo for you? 2) By ignoring my question to you, your silence indicates you have no ground to stand on. As such, go take your LSAT and start your law school journey.
@@AF53501 why would I go to law school when I am finishing my research in higher education for a PhD. I don't care what school you attended, that only means you passed classes doesn't mean you are a critical thinker...obviously.
Freedom does not include the right to tear whatever one dislikes. Go home, vagabonds.
You are treating them with kids gloves that’s why they keep popping up everywhere.
Don't worry, folks, Soros will be okay.......
If you are the parents of one of the 15 arrested, obviously your child has no respect for authority. They probably have no respect for you either. Cut off the money and let them fend for themselves. They should be ashamed of themselves. They don’t need school they need a good reprimand.
It's not free speech when it's on private property
Or not allowing others in their buildings and chanting hate...
Transpassing and No Transpassing!! I recommend that you read the regulations of the universities ,which clearly describes under what conditions and for how long the students can use universities' territory ! The territory of the universities is private territory!!! Free speech versus private territory!
I recommend you learn comma rules and stfu. They teach those in college, ya know.
Should be expelled, permanently
Alright kids - it's back to the classroom.
Lock them all..
What "due process" (time line 0:45) did the massacred Israeli babies and citizens get on Oct. 7th...deport immediately. DHS, POTUS and DOJ strangely quiet about campus protests against Israel protecting themselves from terrorists and sympathizers for terrorists.
They aren't silent, Biden spoke yesterday and clearly stated, the protesters have not done anything to change his mind. The house just passed a new bill, of course Maga congress disagreed. On it's way to the senate.
Do dumb things, face consequences, cry and act like the victim 😂 sound familiar?
"Not been proven of guilty of anything" -_- My dude needs to give up his bar certification, you would be arrested ANYWHERE else if you got criminally trespassed there instead and the law doesn't have any sanctioned conditions beyond what constitutes a crime in the first place! Bottom line: they messed around and found out! Besides that, the first amendment doesn't apply here because they were stupid enough to camp out in protest ON private property! By default, a college student is already expected to be adult enough to accept responsibility for your own consequences, so if they DIDN'T go into this fully aware and ready for that then oh well-sucks to be them-it's nobody's fault but their own for having weak convictions. IMO anything lighter would be an insult to peaceful protestors of yesteryear ACTUALLY worthy of admiration! History respects many of them as men and women of conviction, not spoiled self-entitlement!
they were on PRIVATE PROPERTY......if ASU SAID THEY HAD TO GET OFF THEIR PROPERTY AND THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN YOU DESERVE TO BE KICKED OUT OF ASU....TIME TO GROW UP KIDDIES.
They should be expelled.
Violating the rules is not free speech. I wonder who is paying the lawyer complaining about the so-called students being properly disciplined.
They had no problems pitching a tent IN CLEAR VIOLATION of the campus rules. I'm sure they can find a tent that was left on campus a long with the garbage they left and property destroyed.
You go to school to study and not to protest.
It'e not about what they said but about what they did. Trespassing is not free speech. Setting up a camp on ASU grounds is not free speech.
“I wonder when they’re gonna start tunneling under the school and taking hostages” Diddy
There are consequences to your actions! Grow up and be an adult!
Next week at ASU, supporters of Nagorno-Karabakh clash with counter protesters supporting Azerbaijan. Later in the month supporters of South Sudan and Bosnia are scheduled to clash with supporters of Darfur and Macedonia. Protesters supporting Greek and Turkish Cypriots have had their demonstrations postponed until August.
Very scarry times. I do not hear demend to release hostages
Four years down the drain. Parents fault... Maybe not.
This is beyond free speech intimidating other students and trespassing.
There is valuable lesson here. Rules have consequences. Whether you agree with them or not. Some of these kids have hurt their career prospects for years to come. I saw a senior that is unable to graduate became she wasn’t allowed to take her finals. The weirdest part is, she still thinks she was right.
Admin should be fired for allowing the encampments to begin in the first place. Reckless reckless
🇺🇸 GET OUT! 🇺🇸
The people protesting and the lawyer knew what could happen if they protest illegally. Now they play dumb.
I’m here in AZ. TRESPASSED! Consequence to actions. Are you listening NY? CA?
When you democrats vote in November, remember what JB and KH has done to America.
Do you really want 4-more years of this JB - KH crap?
Can imagine 4 years of a criminal and his uneducated, Stockholm Syndrome, white evangellcal christian nationalists qnon maga cult raclism.
People are dying unjustly in Gaza.
@@Tony-fb1gd and people died unjustly on Oct 7. Where are the protests for the actual genocide being committed in Armenia and northern Nigeria? Seems these "protests" only care about protecting Hamas. Just a thought
@@Tony-fb1gd
Upon hearing of the hamas october 7th terrorist attack at the Israeli concert including murder, rape and beheading of infants..
..many so called Gaza civilians were dancing, celebrating and rejoicing in the Gaza streets.
There was not one palestinian advocating against the terrorist attack.
There was no protests in America on college campuses.
The palestinian hypocrisy is self revealing.
Personally I don’t condone what is happening in Gaza.
I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy.
Trump is such a civilized breath of professionalism and a role model. Said no one ever.
4 more years please.
hey muhammad,,,invite them to gather at your house,,, I DARE YOU
Students take sides in a foreign war they take no part in? Loan forgiveness for them to?
No they are not- the judge and asu told them then were banned unless they were a current asu student
Good old Mo,I wonder who Mo supports let me guess
They are doing this in free country.... What if they would have been in their own country???
Amerika is a land of opportunities!! Universities prepare students for life !!!! Those students who want to live in a tent camp are not surprised that their wish is fulfilled!! So Fee Palestinian or Freedom for Palestinian, the two do not mean the same thing because a land free if no one owns in freedom means people how lives on that land are independent from others ! So go back to school and learn 😂😂😂😂
Some of them are students? Who are the non students and why are they there?
In court these diaper wearers are whining about the "irreparable harm" done by their behavior.
15 out of 65 who’s schools there, don’t forgets about that’s 50 for changes. 😂
Lawers are still making huge money! They are the winners
Reminds me of that woman that was Lost during BLM and the cops dragged her out of her car and arrested her
Well teachers are to blame for this mess, indoctrinating kids and now kids facing the consequences
You right to free speech should not interfere or limit other people rights. When protesters preclude other students to access university or move freely on campus, such protest is no longer peaceful
They have been taught a valuable life lesson , ' actions have consequences ' . If you are told you will be expelled for breaking the rules then expect to be expelled and don't whine about it when it happens .
GOOD ABOUT DAMN TIME these collages are under FIRE big time over this crap/// the real SHAME is this guy trying to call himself an AMERICAN and pressing the laws to FIT HIS NARRATIVE open borders does it every time
Who’s buying the protesters tents for them, their professional handler?
This is what happens when you kander cater to people and teach them there zero consequences for poor choices.
But this attorney would never say anything about Jewish students right to also demonstrate
It was trespassing and violation of university policies.
University policy doesn't require a guilty verdict. It's like a store saying "no shoes, no shirt, no service." They don't need to wait for a trial and guilty verdict either.
What a shame! When has the States become so fallen?
2020
Can students whose property is on campus and who are not allowed to retrieve it, able to sue for theft by conversion?
Do supid things get stupid results. Expel deport arrest
Well, at least it’s good to know there’s decent people who are courageously protesting in a such a racist area
I hope ASU does not back down even for the rich parents!!
Well this is great news, it is about time that people are held accountable for there actions & it is like Kevin O'leary stated this will come back to haunt these students and he is right and it is right now.
Americans always thought they could do what ever they wanted without any consistences but that is now changing. And to add to this the student who do not graduate will still need to pay back there student loans as a Felon working at McDonald's (if they are lucky)
Actions have consequences.
Ban forever.
Throwing away daddys' money. Boy, they're gonna be popular at home. Lmao!
want to free gauza put on a uniform, get on plane and go free them, you are free to do so
So....students that aren't so smart after all. Miss your final, miss your graduation.
Start over next year at a different school. Good for ASU, don't play with these students
private college can have its on rules is what that lawyer and children forgot...
This lawyer seems very confused about public protests and the law.
They were trespassing.
Hope this brings some visibility to the student so they realize what some of them are doing is wrong.
these kids are complicit in genocide, where were they 30,000 bodies ago?
Hey, ASU Campus....their rules. Get over it
the words Mohammed and free speech should never be used in the same sentence
Actions have consequences
0:50 that lawyer seems kinda stupid.
He claims that they haven’t been convicted of anything yet…………THAT’S WHAT THE COURTS ARE FOR.
That’s what comes next.
And you can’t “peacefully protest”after you’ve been told to leave their property
They were arrested for illegally building a camp and trespassing.
People are entitled to the court’s presumption of innocence. They are not entitled to the university’s presumption of innocence.
He should take a trip to Palestine.
Lawyer, huh?? Of course he’s chirping up now, he’s finally found a job😑
Putting tents and encampments on university campus is violation. It’s not a camp ground is it ? 😅
They shouldn’t have not been protesting now that’s their problem nobody else’s
Of course mohammud is the lawyer...
Firstly, they do and enforce time, place, and manner restrictions on people exercising their First Amendment rights on school grounds.
Second, violation of those policies can lead to a person forcibly removed from the area they’re trespassing.
Third, depending on the contractual agreement the student made with the university, they can be expelled if certain threshold is met or with due process. It’s not a criminal court though. All the school needs to show in cases like this is that you knew about being warned and still did not follow through. Being arrested on the ground when you were told to vacate is pretty darn hard to talk your way out of it.
And yes, shouting slogans that terrorist also shouts may constitute terrorist threats. Either way, you went from peaceful protestors into terrorist sympathizers shouting slogans not cover by the First Amendment.
If they're students living on campus, landlord - tenant laws are in effect. They can go to their residence unless ASU gets them evicted in court.
Think what you like, but fact doesn't care what you think. Obviously you live in lala land
Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I was taught that in elementary school.