Audio interview with Ian Curtis of Joy Division, November 1979.
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2008
- Vinyl picture disc interview with Ian Curtis, recorded on cassette in the (noisy) Castle pub, Manchester, in November 1979, i.e. after the release of Unknown Pleasures and Transmission and before Curtis's relationship with Annik Honore, the recording of Closer in April 1980 and his death on May 18th.
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with all the background pub noise, and the interview coming in and going out of earshot, this recording is pretty beautiful.
His face spinning on vinyl is freakin awesome. still my favorite band of all time. thanks for the upload! damn hard to find original JD rarities like this!
I love it when people from Manchester say 'sorted'
Thank you for sharing this
R.I.P Ian
UNKNOWN PLEASURES..TRUE MASTERPEICE AND FOLKS IS IN THE NME TOP 100 ALBUMS OF ALL TIME NUMBER 41.WISH I HAD A ORIGINAL PRESSING OF THAT ALBUM
No one talks this long about themselves in such a comfort.able zone A whole new insight. Most people would ffnd the indulgence a little embarrassing and awkward, and deflect much of this stuff. Fascinating new take.
Got this vinyl yesterday.
Birthday present from my friends.
rest in peace sweet ian.
xxx
God he‘s so down to earth Mancunian, great lad, RIP dear soul
i find it so painful to listen to joy division tracks and realize that ian is dead :( same with nirvana tracks, its just so heart breaking
I have absolutely no prob' whatsoever understanding Ian's accent.. but perhaps that's cos' I only live a few miles down the road from where he was raised! That's towards Manchester than away from.. Manchester..what a fantastic city! Manchester music scene? Best in the world bar none! I am a musician who feels proud as punch to have lived here for the past 26years..RIP Ian..RIP Martin & RIP Tony..keep the faith!!
amen to that brother
Interesting analysis. Been wondering about this for a while. There were some other commentators on here that were unable to keep to the point, however.
Xx RIP Ian xX
makes me feel good
Que caleta Dios mio, esto es una reliquia invalorable, que bravura, impresionante. gracias por compartirla
Thanks for bringing this! It would be great if the audio was cleaned up, maybe make an mp3 out of it, then clean it. It's a rare thing, and should be heard.
-thee captain
I doubt it very much.
I'd bet he'd still be dancing like a legend
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Curtis changed the entire destiny of musical history. The Smiths and The Roses, Oasis , Elbow etc etc would never have happened. Northern artists would never have been taken seriously
Hi mate, yeah he was, Macclesfield, Cheshire. I know what you mean, when i first heard his voice on the radio i actually thought he was American! ( his singing voice i mean ) It reminds me of when i was 14 i made a cassette of me speaking and playing records, i still have it and i sound like a tellytubby haha!!!
As a one time regular of this pub I would love the story that this interview,which is meant to have been given by John Peel,really took place in there.It seems to be in some dispute,though.Manchester music historian Dave Haslam insists that it is untrue.
The Castle pub is in Oldham St, near Piccadilly in Manchester, not Macclesfield!
remember it well..united pub
He's just a human being. Leave him be.
SME 3009 series II improved arm, Shure V-15 MkII cartridge. I'm guessing the turntable is a Michell Focus because of the red mat.
Yeah, I heard those bits... but if we both saw the same documentary on youtube, we know it doesn´t have the full thing. Or maybe it has it on the dvd version of the documentary?
Here were from Macclesfield, about 25 minutes drive south of manchester (20 miles or so)
Oh no, that the one for radio Blackburn. Sorry about that. But as a source of information that site is the best for all things related to JD.
If you google: websitetoolbox "ic interviews"
you'll find a transcript of the interview on this disc.
@tuberenvy good man, well said.
It does exist with subs, you know? It's on a DVD called "Under Review".
@NorahHomeBless What an lovely generalization you have there.
@tuberenvy wow a brilliant existentalist account on life
I wouldn't like to think that ian would have allowed his integrity to be undermined like that, but then again you never know.
tell that to macca or dylan fans. 2 legends.
@squatters1 Well said!
Did anyone
notice that "Blankety Blank" was on In the background of this interview.
ian curtis was a decent guy who didnt try to be something he wasnt, but he certainly was talented and he was dealt a bad hand,,he deserved so much more,,only the good die young,total twats outlive us all,
@RENN357 True, that's the only way they become legendary.
@haydenarias i concur.
@bookai69 Don't worry. I have an original issue of it, as well as a CD. The CD sounds just like it, so you're not missing anything by not having an original of the vinyl.
I dunno , I still do think it sounds like Barney, cause of the real softness, but then, you can kind of hear a bit more of a slightly raw edge to it, so maybe Ian. Incidentally, have you read 'touching from a distance'? If so, what did you make of it ?
*Jewels*
if you live in USA its quite probably you has been diagnosed with Bipolar disorder (maniac-depresion). Its the most popular diagnose among U.S. doctors and psychiatrist ...
top interview.
Damn, could you have just taken Ian outside, in your car or in another room somewhere at this locaiton to separate Ian from the noise if you wanted to do an interview? This would have been such an important recorded document if this could have been done. Ian is making some important points that are distorted by the surroundings. After you played it back and heard how crappy the sound was you should have tried to go and get Ian again and made a second, decent interview recording.
Is there a transcription of this anywhere?
Is this available on CD?
"we'd never heard of the Doors..."
I've got this!!! What is audible is pretty funny, like when says "Dooooooom and destruction"
@GillianSydney Long live Kylie.
I can;t understand a thing. Please someone put some captions.
@maggsayy
The Replacements, too.
He sounds like a newsagent.
@tuberenvy ... although you are right, i admit i am wrong only cause i based my knowledge on how i heard George Carlin describe the meaning which is admitting to ones guilt not taking an "easy way out". that must actually be on older original meaning. i respect you correcting, but i there are some things in the Dictionary i dont agree with including "Bootylicious" and "Ignorant" ;-)
America thanks you! well, most of us do :) cheers!
Who is the man whistleing in the background bout 3 min into it
Sounds like a real Macc lad.
Fair enough, but they still perform, and they're still alive. They're not necessarily rich, but they're certainly well-known.
bloody hell.... i don't see what the problem is understanding this... i've lived in North Manchester all my life and you hear people talk like this every night in the pub.
@PrisonBreakFilms ..and let him live with the deep depression he suffered due to his epilepsy and personal problems (i.e his failing marriage?) depression isn't just some 'phase' you go through.. it's deep seeded and only the ones that matter to you or the ones you care about can help (that's if you haven't lost all hopelessness.). not fucking medicine.. or a chat with the psychiatrist.
Shit I´ld love to hear this with subtittles. I didn´t understand much... Heavy Metal thing, attitude, showing it as well....
@tuberenvy ... cop out is an admission of guilt, not an easy way out
@emile235 if oasis had never happened that would surely have been a good thing...
@tuberenvy - Why's it a shame? He got to the point where life wasn't worth living, so why should he have continued? How do you know what's good or not? Did he harm you by killing himself? He did it in a relatively peaceful manner, away from everyone. Life generally gets better? Wow. Is that true? How would you know? Just shut up and enjoy the music he left behind. At least he did that for you, which is more than what most people do.
yea he had a regular almost high pitched voice, strange right?
@tuberenvy "Having fun" and "Joy Division" don't go together as well as the band's name may suggest.
is it really him?
i've never heard his talking voice before.
New Order seem to have done fairly well for themselves.
But then, that's probably because of Ian's untimely departure.
@Djunfitforwork New order was pretty good. At least on Power, Corruption, Lies
what's all this bx about ' i don't understand a word he says '.
english is my third lingo and i get what he is saying.
@SuzLa1 and Rolf Harris.
@Djunfitforwork Umm.. The 80s didn't suck musically at all. The Cure and The Jesus And Mary Chain immediately come to mind but there were many other great bands then.
hi friend. i've actually got this (picturedisc 45)
a genius, but not a god
manchester's music is ourgift to the world, enjoy x
Now, here's why interviewing someone in a pub with loads of background noise is a bad idea.
@tuberenvy .. yeah dude, i aint mad lol
Im Dizzy. . . . . . . . . . :S
@tuberenvy the low points in life are meaningless?? do you truly believe that?
Interesting. "None of our songs are about death... I feel more or less settled now, doing what I want to do". If events would've taken a different turn, maybe laid off the booze and drugs. who knows?
@Zerrith EH HEMM, the smiths.
Hmm not sure about that when you see the movie / read the book. The club was draining them silly
@thenewrapstyle
@GillianSydney LOLL
this sounds more like bernard sumner than Ian
uhm, no. it depends kinda, the punk genre british accent sounds a lot better, same as heavy metal. with american accent it's more about alternative rock, 90s and such, nirvana
@mediattackrecords what utter bollocks.
yeah thats one of the main em..."characteristics" of his singing, he did it totally on purpose
Just by virtue of singing one is going to sound more american, because the american accent is more sing songy anyway. The conversational british accent has a clipped sound
Couldn't they have picked a less noisy place to do the interview? Seriously, it's not that hard to find a place where people aren't drinking, playing pool, and watching television.
haha i thought the same, maybe its all we got lol
@JonnyCapricorn haha
i must say, many americans are like that, but i've seen new order live and talked to them, but i havent been alive long enough to ever meet ian curtis, sadly enough, he committed suicide, but i also no much about the smiths and others, so don't be calling all americans uneducated yanks on british music, because that just makes u the same as them.
i would of topped myslf if im was spending time in this placce
That's a nasty big lump he's got just below his ear. He should get that looked at.
@Bannerman88 u actaully think he is gay ? noway man listen to the guy hes from manchester and his out standing vocals come from him deep in his soul ....shame and such a waste mate of brillant talent a artist before his time
lol
Doesn't sound like Barney at all!
Iggy Pop has more than paid his dues... He struggled, starved and suffered for fucking years!... let the guy make a coupla bucks for once in his fucking life! Bent backwards... that's bollox.... it doesn't change 30 odd years of real blood and sweat that he put into it.
Try it on weed. Mesmerizing.
I feel a bit sick watching a spinning Ian Curtis. But then I have eaten too many banana chips.
Who said he was "trying" anything? He just sounds like he has an American accent when he sings. I also think The Beatles sound American when they sing. There is a clip from the Beatles' Anthology where they are asked in a press conference why they all sound American when they sing. Do you see my point? There is nothing offensive about thinking someone sounds a particular way.