The Star Wars Starship Economy Explained
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In this video we take a look at the everything related to starships, from the price, to affordability to even the resale value. Think of it as the ultimate buyer's guide.
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An hour and a half of Star wars economics... Perfect!
Not only that, starships too!
@@rojaws1183 and the galaxies economy i think
Something I never knew Id be so interested in.
I met this guy named Han. He tried to sell me his Moldonium Fulcom or something. It was piece of junk. I mean only a teenager or an old Jedi would ride in that thing!
Are you sure he wanted you to buy it? Maybe he wanted you to pay for a Wookiee cuddle
Let me guess: 10.000?
Did the Ship look like a hamburger that someone take a bight from?
@@GenerationTechBite ?
What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?!?
just in time, about to buy a starfighter from my local INCOM used dealership today !
make sure only pre-imperial take over models, everything afterwards was uninspired junk
@@GenerationTechthat kind of talk would have gotten you a year in the kessel mines 30 years ago
@@creed8712that’s why the local dark alley gun dealers exist
How much can I get for a Whitestar? I don't care if it's the wrong franchise, it only has 1,000 lightyears on it.
Shoulda bought Kuat.
One thing I find really fun about Starwars ship is just how not fragile they are. I mean these things are a masterpiece of engineering if they can fly across the stars with half their systems missing and a few weld seams holding the frame intact. only be repaired with parts that have been out of use for decades that some one dug out of the mud. Forget real world rockets, you mistaking you engine and the bolts are to weak and every time you use the gear shift it feels like the engine is about to rip its self out.
This is what I love and admire as well. Of course, even without plot armor, the millenium falcon despite being a literal hunk of junk at this point still kicking is a testament to this fact (especially how damn good corellian engineering is ofc).
Not to mention the insane deals too!!! Just getting any ship used can save you a lot of credits as well. And of course, the modularity that a decent number of ships have, and should, which is the important component for making any ship great. It goes to speak for itself at length how amazingly engineered these beautiful ships are, and how creative and robust and fascinating they can be.
considering a tiny little battery the size of a 9v can power a lightsaber for what seems like months, it's expected that the SW universe has rugged equipment. plus the IP was created before the invent of 'planned obsolescence', back when cars and appliances should last long enough to be inherited.
@@greninjaguy5264 I used the falcon as an example like that before lol. I was saying that everything being all dirty, grimy, and old looking makes it more realistic. We see a high tech space ship that has abilities that far exceeds anything we have in real life, but to the people in the universe the falcon is just an old beat up delivery truck.
@@luigi55125 precisely my friend
Super advanced super rugged tiny modules plug and play. That's the way to do it. Much better then the distinct lack of standardization we have now.
I dreamed of this as a child and here is Lord Allen delivering us the Star Wars content we have long desired.
I love that Starship in Star Wars refers to almost every mean of transport. In our world, they would be cars, trucks, jet fighters, cruise/leisure/cargo/Ferry/liner ships, gunships. Pretty much everything else than small means of transport (speeders, bikes) and land armor. It's a bit like in the age of sail where a ship was everything you needed to travel that didn't involve a horse (except when it did for some river ships).
a starship refers to any spacefaring vessel that has a hyperdrive... an x-wing would be a starship, a tie fighter would not be.
also, ships and boats in the age of sail were not the same thing.
@@this.is.a.username Still aren't. The way I had it explained, the easiest way to envision it is when the craft turns - a boat will lean into the turn, like a biker; a ship leans out of the turn, like a long-haul truck. Something something point of balance visavi displacement, but the quick and dirty of it is "boat small; ship big."
You see now this is the kind of Star Wars content that I come to enjoy and love. Content that feels made out of passion for the franchise and not one that is devoid of soul because it wants to grasp onto the money and views. Keep this kind of stuff GT cause I love it!
Imagine how much an undamaged numbers matching N1 would pull on the auction block
I feel like those things would be sought after by collectors really quickly, just a beautiful and timeless design
Pretty sure Vader keeps one in his castle on Mustafar
@MoonLight-zj8iu doubtful. Unless he keeps it stored in a properly climate controlled hangar, the heat would cause the paint to bubble up. Plus all the volcanic ash would gunk up the intake, possibly do some damage to the motivator block
@@randomhankFair, but Vader's got that Sugar Baby money from Big Daddy Palpatine. Dude can afford the premium transport and storage space to keep the environment from reaching it.
@@MoonLight-zj8iuif Vader can have a SSD as his flagship and a big ass castle on a planet that is hells cousin then he can definitely afford a climate controlled hanger
24:36 I seem to recall an a-wing crashing into the bridge of an SSD, which in turn crashed into the 2nd death star. I think that would be a contender for the 'most efficient kill' category.
With no force user either
@@Speedster___ or maybe the hammerhead at Scarif. 2 isd's, the planetary gate and they didn't even die.
And do we count Holdo's hyperspace ram?
Yessssss economics, I love economics and moneyyyyyy, best thing in star wars 🥳🥳🥳
I for one love that the Star ship market is basically the same as the car market in real life. Instead of ships costing trillions of dollars like they would in real life, they actually just cost what everyday over priced new cars cost, and the used prices are around there too. However used prices in the Star Wars galaxy seem to be lower.
I'm a long time Star Wars RPG game master, and in my universe the explanation for used starships having such low prices is that if you buy a used ship you are typically buying a number of serious problems:
a) The ship has an empty fuel tank and almost no life support consumables, and the price of fueling a ship fully is a large fraction of the cost of the ship (as many can fly for months back and forth across the whole galaxy on a single tank).
b) The ship is probably overdue for an overhaul and has developed a number of quirks in its performance that will cause it to perform badly if you push it beyond the routine.
c) The ship is likely over 30 years old and while it can keep flying it is a maintenance nightmare.
In short, most used star ships are lemons.
you have to remember the old republic itself was 25k years old. that's a lot of old hulls banging around the universe and clogging up used car dealerships.
@@celebrim1 I imagine the regions of the galaxy are much like first-second-and third world countries in the real world in regards to cars. The Outer-rim is a developing third world country where even a lemon is a prized possession. With the exception of more resource rich planets (like cities irl) with nicer starships that may even be new. The Mid-rim is a mix of second and third world. etc... etc... leading up to coruscant being like any other major city with a mix of really new, fairly new, used, and a sprinkle of lemons. Y
places like Naboo have local manufacturers and most other places rely on distant manufacturers and common parts between ships.
I would love it too if the cars/speeders cost were significantly lower than ship prices. But they are really similar, as if space travel added no technical constraint and the second engine for FTL was free.
Considering the galactic economy is literally tens if not hundreds of thousands of planets big it makes sense.
Remember economies of scale make things cheaper as each part get's a specialized maker who's entire reason for existence is to make part A as cheaply as possible. Considering that literally every backwater world depends on trade for something and is at risk of being raided by hyper militarized space pirates the demand for spacecraft of both civilian and military grade is incomprehensible and the potential suppliers are literally any developed system that can support some kind of domestic craft.
_"It can't accelerate worth a wheep and it turns slower than a comet, but if you get in its sights, it can blow you to itty-bitty pieces. It would be embarrassing to have to inform your family you got shot apart by a shuttle, so stay alert."_
=Villian Dance, describing the _Lambda_-class shuttle=
Ah, a _Death Star_ novel enjoyer
@@sethb3090 I never read it. This quote is on Wookieepedia.
@@Sparrow9612 I highly recommend it! It's definitely not canon anymore, but it's a cool tale of interweaving stories about people from high command to small-town bartenders getting pulled into the project as it went from early construction to Yavin 4.
@@sethb3090 Dont let disney decide whats canon. Legends has much better lore and story telling, the "canon" lore is absolute dog water in comparison.
@@fluffbuck3t not just Disney, it was shaky enough to start with that they had to pull a "Natasi Daala was there, but got amnesia and forgot the whole thing"
Z-95 Headhunter remains my favorite starfighter tbh. Something about it being a working man's starfighter is so appealing to me. It's a cheaper X-wing, older, and less capable, but still very much effective and just cool af.
Most civilizations in starwars don't even look space age. So much am air conditioner or TV look out of place in many places
They don't look space age but more like space race.
"How much did you pay for these X-wings?"
Rebels: 😶😶
What do you mean by payy 😂
@@GenerationTech incom ain't giving 'em away free in cereal boxes
It fell off a truck- Mon Mothma.
@@this.is.a.username they did in fact give it away ..... They gave them the plans to make them.....🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@DarkKatzy013Zang so if I started a rebellion in a 3rd world country as an American citizen Lockheed Martin would lend me 7 quintillion free fighters? Hell yah
So, let's think about this the Venator cost 49 million, plus an extra 60 million for full complement of aircraft of 400. For a total of 109 million Credits. Or Dollars sense you say it's a 1/1 ratio. For comparison the Gerald R. Ford Class Aircraft Carrier cost about 13 billion Dolars. Plus, an extra 3 billion a full complement of aircraft of 90. For a total of 16 billion Dollars. So, what I am hearing is the U.S. could build 130 Venator ships with full compliments for the cost of what we are paying for 1 Aircraft Carrier.
yeah now you give a reference point that is a stupid price
Never underestimate grift in the military industrial complex.
Your getting a spaceship that doesn't have stealth nor goes as fast plus they use dogfighting tactics
America could conquer a galaxy far, far away lol.
It is made more ridiculous when the, estimated, value is 1:1.44 (per travelmoneyoz, 2019) So a Venator would only cost the U.S., in an at cost purchase, $18,720,000, each, not adjusting for inflation. Even then, that's pennies on the dollar.
The Republic and Empire kept a pretty tidy economy, all things considered.
Technology in the starwars civilization is based more on economics then time period of development
Its mad to think that a US F35 fighter jet costs 80-100 million or is, according to this video, worth the same as over 10 calamari cruisers. Something is telling me that the financials just don't add up. Probably need to at least 10x each estimate.
Yeah, I agree. Though I think the argument for why they're so cheap is that pretty much everyone in the galaxy owns a starship and the manufacturing plants are thus very large and the processes highly automated. Still seems a bit too cheap though.
Think about it this way:
How much would an F-35 cost to manufacture during WW2? How about in ancient egypt?
Even if they had the technology necessary for it, the jet would be priceless. The star wars galaxy has been making roughly the same tech level ships for 1000+ years, with economies of scale unparalleled by anything we've ever made on earth. It's not inconceivable that those ships would be ridiculously cheap
@@firstname8637see your problem is your thinking like it’s earth where it’s one planet of limited resources and limited labor but its Star Wars it’s tens of millions of planets with an insane amount of resources and most likely their are entire planets dedicated to starship manufacturing and with highly advanced technology they probably founds ways to make each step insanely cheap and especially with extremely cheap labor from backwater planets or rural planets and starships are like cars everyone uses them so that also drives the price lower making their price equal to a regular new car on earth
@@1-North-1 Yeah. But then I really wonder if Han actually thought ANYONE in their right mind would pay 10.000 for passage on a rundown freighter😂.
You're probably right by the way.
@@firstname8637he was just so crazy broke and probably had debts so he just tried to bump up the price like crazy
A used TIE Defender would be an amazing purchase, assuming I could get some aftermarket life support and amenities installed.
It would be, though I prefer the Avenger myself. So much of the Defender is near custom that replacement parts (when you need them, TIEs are nice like that) can cost almost as much as a used Defender in the first place. Avengers few enough parts commonality with the interceptors that they're easier to keep maintained, while still not skipping out on shields and hyperdrive. And honestly they're just beautiful.
I feel like tie fighters are muscle cars, they look classic with a sleek black design and sound absolutely amazing (AEEAEEAEEEEAEEEEEEAEEEEE)
@@CASA-dy4vs oh for sure, fusial engine purr is one thing but you can't beat a good twin ion engine howl
There are V-wings seen at the Battle of Coruscant in the background where Anakin and Obi-wan find Palpatine. Meaning it couldn’t have been made after the battle.
Palpatine: You weren't supposed to see that.
I'd love a video about all of the junkyards, scrapyards, and boneyards in the Star Wars universe :)
I’m already hooked by the first 10 seconds!
The Coruscant green screen editing + lighting in this is beautiful, great vid!
This is the most excited I've felt about Star Wars in years! It's nice thank you Alan! The new shows have had me so down that I was starting to forget all of the awesome lore that was made by people who care.
LETS GOO hour and a half of star wars lore. Just what i needed.
This is the gentech content I love and miss❤
Generation tech will always be one of my favorite channels if not my favorite 😊
I've always said if I was in SW a Gazanti with an LAAT/C and AT/TE with a speeder bike would be a great setup.
Another thing you have to remember about the speed of these ships is that they are doing it all with ion engines rather than ignition engines, which means much less carbon emission which is probably why even coroscaunt didnt suffer from global warming. Even the empire cares more about their planets than we do
1:19:18 Thank you for this advice, i'll remember it when make the purchase from merchant in Galaxy Far, Far Away 🙇♂
I have learned economics during my study at the logistics, 12 years ago. I really like to learn the economics of the Star Wars universe. Thanks for this video. 🙌
Great video, I do with you compared the ships to cars and motorcycles like you did later in the video throughout the whole thing, it really helped put things into perspective
Nuxanor has been doing a starwars deep dive and this is perfect for that. If anyone watches him try to send it to him I think this will be right up his alley after he watched the death of democracy video
This video is the answer to every one of my prayers
I think the idea of a "used TIE defender" is optimistic at best, I feel like even if you could find one used and beat up a bit its value would be inflated as a prototype limited run TIE and therefore be a collector's item, you'd be competing with wealthy star ship history buffs for it.
This rules i want more videos like this
Thanks for making this video! I've been trying to look up prices of ships because I've talked about the stat wars table top game, which got me thinking about the cost of the ships, weapons and armor of the star wars universe. I really like knowing the nitty gritty details.
Luthen Rael’s ship is underrated.
Why build X-Wings when you can just stick a hyperdrive to a navigation droid and blow up Star Destroyers from the other side of the Galaxy?
Cause it would make sense to do that
i'm at work now and just found this vid so can't watch, but i just finished the rogue squadron series for the umpteenth time and there is one particular quote that mentioned 400k NR credits could purchase 2 xwings with spare parts.
I feel like with thousands of years of parts and hulls flooding the market, ships are so common and cheap that people just choose not to go to space. the price isn't the limiting factor there like it seems to be in other scifi IPs. which is understandable, today you can find cheap Live on Board boats for as low as $15k, and yet not everyone is out there buying them and living on them because they just prefer solid ground.
great video mate but nothing is better than a space subaru reliable and easy to work on might be corellian
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Can u do videos about how the Rebellion created their own economy (20 Alliance Credits 🟰 1 Imp Credit), the value of commodities like spice, aurodium, gemstones, bacta and tibanna?
I've always loved the gozanti, it looks cool and is very useful
great video! love this - no one else has even come close to attempting this.
edit - can you do droid one next?
Recently had a small bump with a fellow leaving a planet. This is going to be very helpful in my buying decision. Hoping to track down this one journalist who keeps hopping from planet to planet with each video. I will find him.
I love these kinds of videos. Thank you SO much!
We need more of these long videos!
Always love these kinds of fiction logistics series. great for helping my own sci-fi research.
Idk why i really like when you talk about ships.
Liked the mention of T-65s being slapped together in on the fly factories. I often think of the X-Wing as the starfighter equivalent of the AK-47, which makes me wonder whether Incom were truly heroes of the Rebellion to restore the Republic; or, following DJ's hint, maybe they simply take their fighter to insurrections and brushfire wars all over the galaxy looking for clients.
An hour and a half?? Damn. You're a beast at making quality videos.
20:58 Allen, that looks more like 4 laser cannons, 2 ion cannons, and 2 missile launchers
*agrees in Tie Fighter by LucasArts*
Oooh i haven't seen you do things like this before in two years that i've followed. Maybe i missed some, could be for sure. I'll watch this in two parts. Now at evening when chill with Herbal Tea & tomorrow while munch breakfast Porridge that has berries & Naturli V Spread 🙂
Just acquired a pre-owned Corellian YT-1300 from a seller named LE-GO. Anyone have a pair of landing gears? Apparently these were sheared off during a brush with an asteriod. I have a couple of passengers (some old fossil, a snarky farm boy plus two droids) that need a ride to Alderaan. Will pay in spice, no questions asked. Thanks in advance, glad I happened upon your channel.
This seems to me like a direct reaction to all the frustration among STAR WARS-fans today, who are disappointed by the general course this franchise is taking, while there still is no clear vision of the stories that should be told or said stories' core values. One thing that STAR WARS has always been good at is exactly this, starship design with a distinct look and feel to it, the exact minutiae of these fictional technologies, right down to the imagined cost of them
An hour and a half of Alan talking Ships, don't mind if I yes.
I just want the Ebon Hawk.
Though, I will say I do really like the affordable Y-Wing bombers. The darn things were almost indestructible in Battlefield 2 (PS2) and dominated space battles, able to engage everything from interceptors to capital ships. It's just a shame it couldn't double as a mobile home.
The YT-1300 really is the best all-rounder at an affordable price, plus you can live in it.
always enjoyered your vids my man, but i do think this one has been my favourite
Did Incom just decide to hand off all their blueprints to the Alliance, I mean I find it funny that the star fighter the Empire rejected ended up being their biggest pain in the ass.
Please do a series about creating your own starwars ships
It looks like the cost of basically everything in the StarWars universe seems to be linear with the surface area of the box which would contain it.
Finally some good Star Wars content
Would love to see about the Seperatist and Trade Orginization fleets of lucrehulk and Droid fighters
watching this while playing stardew valley is probably the most relaxing time ive ever had in my life
What was that whole line from the Last Jedi...
Starship producers were the only people that profit from the wars.
I wonder how involved in war properly they were on both sides.
Blaster Producers: *whistling uncomfortably on a pile of credits*
That's a fascinating thing ive realized watching the whole "whatever" Built America shows on History was how many food companies survived and became titans by making food for the military. I can only imagine the ration barons that were made by the Clone Wars, only to get nationalized and made into pseudo nobility by the Empire.
I also wonder exactly how the interwar pipeline for ships worked with the First Order, did they build secret branches and production facilities in the Unknown Regions and just smuggle components, materials and parts or were they building them in the Republic then shipping them out. Either way that must have been a massive illicit operation, even as incompetent as the Republic was a blind deaf comatose lobotomy patient would have noticed Star Destroyer's worth of stuff disappearing.
@@lordfrostwind3151 nice Darth Fatass reference. Also Kuat and other ship manufacturers made secret companies with each other (Kuat-Entralla for example) to provide the First Order with ships, armor and weapons.
Yesss hours of economics.
46:18 Just a Flesh Wound that Bacta heals to El Bueno Condition 😋 Gonna take a look at that sparring Lightsaber's price & how much shipping costs are to Land Of Thousand Lakes ✅
You forgot about Old Republic era starships like the Fury-class Imperial Interceptor, the Harrower class Dreadnoughts, the Thremton class Destroyers, and the other ships from the Sith Empire and Old Republic.
So what you’re telling me is an F22 would fuck up a tie fighter any day of the week. Neat.
Given how important Kuat was to the Empire, why didn't the New Republic take it over, nationalize it and overthrow and imprison the previous leaders of the system and the KDY company?
I think you risk destroying the ring shipyard, also we have to remember the kuat system defense force was no joke. We did a video a while back about how they were basically too big to fail… so most governments tried to work with them.
@@GenerationTech Right now Kuat is a net loss to the Republic. If they can't take it over, at least if they take it out they remove one of the pillars supporting the Empire and the First Order, though I still have to do math on the actual cost of doing this in lost ships and men if those defenses really are so strong.
How much did we pay for those A-Wings? We found them in a used Starship depot, they were donated to us - Rebel Alliance spokesman
Rebels: Beg borrow or steal and occasionally sell the royal jewels....
Empire: Quantity is a quality all its own.
Republic: Spare no expense and money is no object.... ( Because bankruptcy is the goal)
CEC: We arw Space MOPAR.
😎👍
DILLIGAF: Uglies and the Jawa Starcrawler ( If you salvage a sublight drive hyperdrive and repulsor lifts, Why resell them when you can just install them?)
Correlian Engineers are the unsung heroes of the galaxy.
The C-Roc Gozanti is my pick from this list.
This is a fun idea. I'm looking forward to watching it.
I like your back round in your window❤
That is a good question. These loans taken by: the Empire, Republic, CIS, and NR must have been massive.
"Why didn't they do a bunch of Holdo maneuvers?"
*points to 90 minute video on starship economics*
About twenty years ago, credits were said to be slightly less powerful than a US Dollar. Inflation out here affecting my relationship to fictional currencies.
I love the Z95 headhunter and if I had to go with any star wars star fighters it would be the Z95
1:12:54 --> Excellent 🥳
Welp! I got something to listen to at work
The VCX-100 is actually bigger than the YT-1300.
They are similar in length and width, but the VCX is twice as tall. It has much more internal volume.
The TIE-Defender is my absolute favorite…
I'm curious but was it ever discussed in this channel how the Empire treated Incom Corp?
Considering they manufactured most of the Rebel Alliance's Fleet, did they stow away their production facilities elsewhere? Did the Empire ruined the reputation of Incom's board of directors and shareholders?
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love your stuff man
Generation Tech, your back yard/market ship dealer
nver on my life i tought i need this video
People often focus too much on the specifications of equipment. Like... yeah, maybe your tank is the best in the world with every bolt handcrafted by artisans, but that's not going to matter when the enemy can field fifty ok units for your 1 fantastic one, and you can't fix it because everything is so specialized that you can't find any spare parts for it.
Of course that's cold comfort to the crew of the ok vehicles that get blown up.
Could you creat an index so we can return when necessary to find specific ships for background info?
17:34
😂 You got that right!
Standard Tie fighter feels triggered
Crane really screwed up with Aurebesh when he turned X into a Delta, totally defeats the X-wing designation... Y-wing is close enough I guess.
How do you arrive at these prices per ship? The cost of a fighter jet, the closest analogue to X-wings et al, is at least ten times what you’re quoting for the costliest Star Wars fighters.
Good Video, however Thrawn was transported to another Galaxy. Orignally it was the Unknown Regions
I am surprised they never brought out the Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka 'Cherry Blossom' flying bomb. Something a mech droid could fly, and make mincemeat of the imperial ships.
Found this black and orange x wing in the dirt from this guy called Poe? Idk but it seemed like it was made to be the best in its period
I'm having trouble believing the 1:1 buying power between dollars and credits. One F-22 costs $350 Million. The entire F-35 program including development costs $2 Trillion
Size of scale dude..... Big ass whole solar system in comparison to a greedy bloated one country military industrial complex. And a horribly artificially expensive one .
Thanks
The Actis starfighter designation is pronounced “Aye-tah”. “Eta” is a Greek letter (like Delta).
Quick question… one to one dollar. At what time period and/or accounting for inflation? A Cadillac cost 2,700 in 1978, but 85K now… does the Star Wars universe experience inflation? Sorry if a stupid question… just found your channel.
17:30 Perhaps the ship makers forgo conventional aerodynamics because the atmosphere varies planet to planet? Making a “universal” 🥁ship that is more efficient out of atmosphere would be more appealing