A MASSIVE NFL TRADE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN
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MOST QBs have their careers ruined by an incompetent organization.
Sad when you think about it?
Absurd. Just a new age bs theory to make an excuse for every bust/mediocre QB.
Historically great QBs go very high in the draft, those teams got that high in the draft by being incompent (no way bro 🤯). Yet time and time again great QBs have been drafted high to these bad organizations and then suddenly they're a stable franchise for 10+ years.. hm how did that happen??
Reality is most QBs just ain't good enough, its the single hardest job in the world. One of the reasons why when you get an elite one.. you don't give him up for ANYTHING.
@@yepdontcarebudSo your saying bryce young is a bust when he literally has the worst o-line worst wr and one of the worst defenses
Yup. I’m a firm believer that only a few quarterbacks taken in the first half of the first round have actually busted. They’ve gone to shit situations that either ruined them mentally and/or physically and it was over before they got a true shot.
@yepdontcarebud what about Steve Young in Tampa v. 49ers?
Jerry Jones idea of going "All in" for his team is letting starters walk and maybe going grocery shopping at Walmart.
He meant we already went all in, we are done spending money on shiit that doesn't work
He meant we are pivoting/changing strategies,but didn't want to actually say that
We were all in this year actually. And nothing happened
Walmart? That's too rich! Jerry is sifting through the scratch & dent second's bin at a Stewart's Bargain Barn.
😂😂😂 this rebuild is gonna be torturous
@@rolandrothchild8889 😂😂😂 probably bro
Kraft may have mayo but they need some beef to go with it.
I'd wish they hold the mayo and make a nice BLT..not a fan of mayo tbh
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Underrated comment🔥🔥🫡
Do they got any Bergers..? 😭😂
@@bloconte2796 mayo is actually the understated ingredient in the BLT
The draft will be crazy
Mayo is gonna take a Punter to show he is a true Bill successor
A classic Bill move
I hope not but you never know
you mean longsnapper
And the Dallas cowboys will see all this and still not do anything
Yeap that’s my team
Your tripping bro we're all in 😭
Get rid of dak and yall coolin truss
@@MikerophoneAll in, my ass😂
@@Mikerophone if only so
As a MN native and nearly 40 year Vikes fan, I sure as hell hope we DON’T give up a bag for the #3 pick!!! We don’t hane a 2nd, or a 3rd pick this year. We have holes of our own to fill even outside of QB… this class QB’s are “deep”, even though a 50% hit rate on the top 6 QB’s would be about average. I would much rather our team just take who’s there at 11 than gamble 3 #1 picks to get the “third best” QB in this draft. One of the top 4-6 QB’s should be there still at 11, and even if not just take best player available.
I cringe so bad at all the hype over the top QB’s in any years draft. It’s a double edge sword because you no doubt need a franchise QB (and especially on a rookie contract), but if you miss your team is set back at least 3 years and more likely 5 years…
For the past 20 years the Vikes have patched their QB situation together mostly through free agency and a few trades. We have a wiley Sam Darnold who has everything to prove.
Pick up best player available (no matter position) at 11, and then at 23 take a low risk chance on Penix (or anyone else that might slip).
Option 3. Take a QB at 3, sit him for the year while tanking. Get another high pick and trade it for depth at tackle and receiver.
As a life long Pats fan, you are 100% correct about Mac Jones. Bring in the vet. QB, draft the best Wide Out in recent memory #3, draft OLinemen in the second and third rounds. Watch the Pats improve.
Love your video, Mike, and keep up the great work you are awesome
Dude that “The Sons” nickname for them is sick. Using that.
With them being on the Vikings, call them the Sons of Plunder.
If the Vikings give up three first round picks for the #3 pick, then they got duped. They could keep the picks and draft a couple instant starters, while picking up veteran QB later.
Your analysis in regard to the Patriots is right on.
As a Vikings fan I still have PTSD from October 12, 1989. Please don't overpay!!!!!!
That was worse than an overpay it was more like asset suicide
I just googled 12 October 1989 NFL and it comes right up. Who gives up that much for a running back? Does that explain Dallas success in the 90’s?
@@russc788 yes
@@russc788 It was a HUGE part of the Cowboys success.
@@johnborger I didn’t know this. Wow.
excellent update video, the graphics are on point 🔥🔥
Lets go vikes!
Love ur vids
I agree with you, build the team first.
Im a pats fan and you literally NAILED IT on how I feel. The pats went through 3 different cordinators in macs first 3 years, really only had 2 cordinators as patricia/judge duo was an absolute joke. But I want the team to rebuild, not draft a QB to a team thats incomplete and then have a repeat situation. EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT
Agreed! However, coaching was part of the problem, but not the whole problem. Bad offensive line play and bad receivers were a big part of the problem too.
Agreed@@stevegallo8483
Hear hear , Finally a voice of reason ! I know Pats fans are going to lose their minds if this happens this way but it is the most intelligent way to rebuild . If they draft a QB and he fails again because of a poor line or wide receiver group then they will be all over the rookie QB again and we start the cycle again . Another wasted year; Do it get a wide out and then a tackle and the second round either another o-lineman or another wideout . Then in third do all in for a TE and then 4th round maybe a RB or more lineman . We will also could probaly use a passrusher somewhere if they can find one and finally Alabama's field goal kicker to replace our disaster
Yeah man, and there is no gaurentee if you draft the QB that he will even be good! ON TOP OF THAT ON A SHITTY TIME LIKE OURS RIGHT NOW!? Nah I want them to rebuild, they could take a QB in the 2nd round or 3rd, maybe penix is 2nd? But I want them to really just put pieces in play and build a team.@@user-mq8ou4fg2q
@@stevegallo8483And bad QB play too. Let's not act like the QB play wasn't a problem when in reality it was.
i like how much you've been talking about the vikings haha
I love the videos that address teams with a less obvious gameplan going forward
New England doesn’t have a bad roster they have a dysfunctional offense bc of the coaching decisions that were made
Hands down the best channel on the tube
You're a trip Mike. When You Say. "Break". In your King Kong voice 😅
That's why I thought it sounded familiar omfg lol.
Yep definitely subscribed
RUclips notifications are super annoying and I have it turned on for two channels both of Mikes... great content and wishing you continued success and happiness brother!
NATHAN ROURKE is a hidden gem on the PATRIOTS this coming TRAINING CAMP.
Dude lit up the CFL like no one has since DOUG FLUTIE 25-30 years prior.
He is unbelievable and totally clutch and he proved with the JAGS in preaseason a hell of a lot IMO.
Totally agree with everything you said- problme was not mac , it was the OLine and the lack of weapons and they did destroy mac jones .. period
Agreed! I feel Sam Howell got treated the exact same way in Washington. They should also look to trade back, their o-line is terrible.
Agreed need to have a O-line in place before you put a good QB back there…The Miami Dolphins were notorious for doing that going back to Chad Henne.
Swear intro goes so hard , I start head banging while eating my pinwheel sandwiches
Jerod Mayo's body language also says no (head shake side to side) when he says "we could take someone at three"... then yes (head shake up and down) when he is talking about being offered "a bag"
the goat posted
Let me ask something. Michael Penix is left handed so his blind side on the other side of the wall. The Left Tackle is one of the best paid player in the offensive line. Can you find a good Right Tackle for Penix for less money to create gap in the salary cap???
Great point.
Bro the Dallas Cowboys are gonna see this and be so absolutely incredibly Asleep because it's free agency and Jerry Jones is old
Jerry Jones goal is to keep the Cowboys as the most valuable franchise in the world, winning is secondary.
I love your videos
Absolutely agree
Lovin the Viking centric vids!
Broncos can trade Patrick sutain
@@brandonbarrett8928lol patriots don’t want a corner tf u mean they want 3 first rounders and vikes got that broncos only have one first rounder 😂and a corner that’s not gonna be enough sorry
@@brandonbarrett8928broncos aren’t getting a better offer then what the vikes are offering we giving them 11 and 23 plus next years first
@@joshuawilliams2447 vikings will not give up 3 firsts are you crazy? To risky for a not sure thing. Do not want to be the panthers, 49ers, jets where you give up good draft capital just for a qb that is not going ro be there in 5 years. Also vikings do not have picks 2,3,4 next year why would they also give up pick 1
@@jessemontgomery8987 lmfao u don’t know how bad we want a qb getting a top 3 qb is better then drafting at 11 we need the best qb option available
I’m not a math expert but it seems like it’s the same delta between picks 1-4 and then a significant reduction from 5 on.
I’m usually all for the strategy of drafting lineman and skill position before a qb but I think the Pats need to get a good qb while they have a high pick and sit him
I’m fine with trading out of the pick for 3 1’s. 1st round tackle/Rec in round 1, tight end round 2. But I’m also ok with taking a QB and a tackle in the 2nd and rafting rec in 3/4..
Mayo and Wolf were at Maye's pro day. They were both very impressed with Drake's workout. I doubt they trade out at this point. The Vikings are trading up to 4, not 3. NE will get more talent lower in the draft, but first, they will take the QB with no ceiling.
They are drafting Maye watching the pro day yesterday their GM could not stop smiling and staring at Maye
i've been looking at my phone every morning since we got #23 cause I knew what we were doing, I'm honestly surprised the trade hasn't happened yet
I never understood teams giving up cheap players who can produce and relying on hopes and dreams.
I absolutely agree with Mike about Mac Jones. Not many newly drafted QB can achieve what Mat Jones did in his rookie campaign. It was abysmal decision to bring Matt Patricia-Joe Judge in for offense. You don’t need to be a specialist for this concept.
Why does your video sound like I'm driving with the back window slightly unrolled lately?
If the Vikings trade 3 first round picks for the 3rd pick, their GM should be fired the same day.
For getting the qb of the future? You should never be a gm
@@PopPunkSkol Yes I wasn’t offered it rest easy 😂
I love to watch his videos I’m doing my everyday tasks I watch both is Chanel’s this one and his basketball channel
See this guy gets it
On the one hand there's talk that six QBs may go in the first round, but here we have the Pats thinking about dumping their number 3 pick? There's a disconnect here.
The differences in the pick values between picks 1-4 all differ by 400. After 4 is where it dips down. 2200 to 1800 is 400. 2200 to 2600 is 400. and 2600 to 3000 is also 400
Hell Yeah love it
My guess on how the early draft could unfold goes like this:
1) Bears take Caleb Williams of course
2) Washington Commanders pick LSU QB Jayden Daniels despite more mocks having Commanders take NC QB Drake Maye here
3) The Pats shock everyone by trading down with the Vikings who’s two 2024 first rounders (#11 & #23 overall) plus a 2025 2nd Rounder is a deal New England can’t refuse despite desperately needing a QB. The Vikings shock everyone by picking media darling meteoric draft riser Michigan QB JJ McCarthy at pick #3
4)The Cards stand pat & have the widely regarded consensus top player in the draft who is considered a sure fire can’t miss lock in NFL ready receiver Marvin Harrison Jr.
5) The Chargers desperately need a receiver due to loss of their #1 WR Keenan Allen & their #2 WR Mike Williams but could take a tackle as Harbaugh likes smash mouth run then gun type of football. Despite Malik Nabers & Rome Odunze being here along with freak TE Brock Bowers & all the tackles the Chargers make a trade with the Pats (they move up for less than they got moving down netting them extra picks) who move back up to where they take next draft shocker Washington QB Michael Penix Jr. Penix’s stock has been going up & his Pro Day helped him out even more
6) Now my Giants will be in a tough choice situation here after the draft unfolded as it did like I described. Do they trade down after McCarthy was shockingly taken at 3. I could see them taking stud WR Rome Odunze over Malik Nabers here to the disappointment of some Giants fans who prefer Nabers. Both are studs & basically a pick either one & you’ll be set because theyre bith so good. Odunze contrasts more with the other Giants receivers like Hyatt, Robinson & Slayton who gives them a big body tall jump ball red zone weapon; Nabers is more similar to the Giants receivers than Odunze. Either way the top Giants need is a #1 WR however do they take one of the remaining top QB prospects here as insurance for Daniel Jones & a hedge to improve odds they have their franchise QB on the roster? Possibly. Maybe the Giants trade down & net more draft capital for next year to use on 2025 draft for a QB in case Jones falters. Maybe Jones has a breakthrough year.
Whatever happens Giants need to crush the draft after a successful free agency in order ti compete in 2024 & fill their needs. Can’t wait for the draft. It’s going to be fun to watch this QB, Receiver & tackle loaded draft unfold. I’m getting anxious. I want to see who Giants & everyone picks & whether the Giants rumors of late are smokescreens or garbage. Let’s Go Giants!
I mean New England didn't coach him well this past year, but Mike Gesicki is more of a recieving Tight End (if you look at his Miami stats). Either way Mac Jones O-Line, Wide Receivers/TEs, Running game stunk. I juries to key Defensive Players also didnt help NE.
This is exactly what I pointed out too, both Gesicki and Parker are 50/50 ball threats. Mac couldn't even get close to them 80 percent of the time. They were trying to force Gesicki to be a blocker when that's the reason we didn't resign him in Miami.
I am a long time Patriots follower and the Pats have already turned down offers from the Vikings and other teams to trade away their #3 pick. They are set on staying put and drafting their QB
I agree with this take. I like this path better
Late rd QB with upside seems like it could be on the table as they have so many needs right now
Why do we get this toolbox as HC, bro literally tank our own 3 pick cmon dawg.
ben johnson was right there man
I'm not even a pats fan and live in mass I'm a Vikings fan but when they signed him as hc I could not believe it
Tony Robbins voice 😂😂😂
The Cowboys tried your strategy. They drafted a lot of OL early in a couple of drafts, and were laughed at by a lot of people. Until those players were chosen to multiple Pro Bowls and All-Pro slots. Unfortunately, injuries took their toll. But it was also the owner's need to choose mediocre "yes men" as coaches that hindered their chances for years. Because I have no doubt that the owner would also love to not only GM, but head coach as well.
Build line out on both sides
Still think of a team drafts a player they should be able to pay the player going forward at comparable rates and if the player stays the team gets a “discount” on the salary cap
Create a scenario where teams can actually build and develop
Mayo should take a page out of his mentor's book and keep his mouth shut.
Is it with the Steelers
Could have a "new" Herschel Walker trade on our hands here. 🤣🤣
You right Mike. Trade this years pick for more capital for next year. Qb should be one of final peices to the puzzle.
😂 No it shouldn't.
Disagree. Don't acquire top talent in a specific order, just acquire top talent. And if you can't acquire it directly, acquire the people (and coaches) who can grow it. They're saying this year has way better QB prospects than next year, so a rare #3 pick for NE is an opportunity. Granted, most 1st Round QB's don't pan out, and maybe 2024 is no exception, but when you have no QB it doesn't feel like such a gamble to take one.
Bill didnt understand how to utilize Parker and Gesicki. He was trying to run them as traditionally as possible when Mike Gesicki is really just a big WR. They excel at coming down with 50/50 balls but Mac Jones couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. DVP is past his prime now but the Patriots OC clearly didn't watch enough tape on them.
No parker and gesicki are just bad
The Patriots' defense is actually in good shape. The biggest issues for the Patriots defense in 2023 were injuries. Remember they lost top cornerback Christian Gonzalez and top pass rusher Matthew Judon to season ending injuries. On offense, they need a stud left tackle, a #1wide receiver and a quarterback. As a Patriots fan, they need to build the team first and then get the quarterback. Most young quarterbacks that fail, fail due to the incompetence of the organization that drafted them. Look no further than Mac Jones for evidence of that. Mac was the runner up for offensive rookie of the year in 2021. He was NOT the problem on the Patriots offense.
With the injuries, they also still showed up every weekend.I'm glad to see Steve Bell.Check stayed as a coach.
I thought he did a Great job with what he had to work with
Mac was the main problem on offense... He had a tosix attitude and put all blame on his teammates. But he did not once execute for what he was paid to after his rookie year. And while it is obvious that his support cast was not the best - it is as obvious that Mac is just not a NFL starting QB. Not physically and definitely not mentally
@@SuperJonerthen You're a hater and wrong! Mac was set up to fail! THAT is on the PATRIOTS!
@@stevegallo8483 so for you a realsitic Assessment of the Situation is hating?
Was it the Pats who made Mac a Diva?
Was it the Pats that threw horrible picks left and right?
Was it the Pats who made the locker room hate Mac?
I don't think so.
He did definetly not have the best help around him but He just regressed, did not work on himself, gave up and acted like a bitch... So the main blame is von fucking Mac 10. And all Pats Fans should celebrate that this slouch is gone. You don't want a Player like him in you locker
I'm rooting for Mayo to have a great rebuild
Great rant about Jones. Brian Hoyer said he was highly intelligent and implied the Matt Patricia wasn't able to answer his questions. That exposed a weakness, which was Mac's tendency to play the spoiled brat, throwing tantrums on the field due to bad play calling. Belichick, who had Jones forced on him in the first place, got his revenge in the 2023 draft when he went defense with his first three picks, leaving Jones bereft of an help at OL, receiver and bringing in yet another OC, O'Brien. O'Brien was better, but Mac was constantly under pressure from the rush, and lost his confidence. He started missing easy passes and seeing ghosts. He's cooked in all likelihood. It was the very textbook of how to ruin a QB and was the main cause of Belichick rightfully being fired
Great video! Took the words right out of my mouth! Only thing I would say is play zappe over Jacoby...this way you give your young cheap QB already in the building a chance with a much better roster
Maye and Mayo sounds like a good QB/head coach duo
I would take all the asset i can get from a trade. Glad im not the GM or HC of that dump hole
@@cdav6915thank god you arent you would be a terrible gm
I would of been so satisfied with mhj at 3, mac jones under center and a good left tackle then progress from there.
Mac😂😂😂😂😂
@@AintNoWaye I never said he was good but he was on a rookie scale contract still...
@@GetF1awless so get rid of him while you still can get something out of iy and hes also toxic lmao not a good way to build a new culture
If you hit a mil subs will you level your picture frames? lol
I still think you draft your guy at three and sit him 3/4 - the full season and then cross the bridge when we get there
3 first round picks for 8 spots makes no sense
Patriots need a blue chip QB, no more a project QB because we’ve seen how they treated Jones. Secure him now and build around him next year
Bob Kraft is turning into Jerry Jones
I think this the best move forward for the patriots, drafting top drafts for qbs seems to never pan out
Can you check the draft pick value chart the 4th pick drops the same as the 3rd pick I think you are confused
All depends who's available at 3.
Patriots NEED Jaden especially the O-line!!!
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"...then after that there's a huge jump"
IT'S THE SAME INCREMENT WTF YOU MEAN lol
Ya
They should have kept Mac, drafted Harrison Jr, or traded the pick for multiple first and second round picks and got a competent offensive coordinator. Now they are in a pickle. If you draft Harrison Jr, you have nobody to get him the ball. If you draft a QB, you have no weapons or a good offensive line. Plus day 1 QB starters don't normally pan out. You could go offensive line but you can trade down, get multiple picks and still get an offensive lineman in the middle of the first round plus possibly having multiple first round picks this year if you traded picks with the Vikings who needs a QB.
I think mac jones is going to have an alex smith like career revival eventually
Not a basketball fan but I'll sub to your bball channel
Wooo
What happened to Zappe? Did he slide out the door with Mac?
Damnnnnn
Are you guys new to Coach/GM talk? What do you expect him to say, " I'm shutting off my cell phone, please don't send me any trade offers!!" 🤣
Titans have Hopkins closer to the end than the beginning, bust Treylon Burks, who at TE & who at RB?
I agree w this review. But I sure hope Vikes don’t trade our next years 1st round, since it could be a top 3 pick! This season will be a rebuilding year for Vikes w a rookie QB.
Tanking the next season sounds good in theory but how do you sell it to your players? How many good players will you lose because they don't want to be on a tanking team? Are you really sure your team will be more ready than this year to draft a QB? How much will you have to give up to trade up to get that QB? Probably the pick you get from the Vikings and another 1st round pick.
Also, how are the new head coach and coordinators going to look if they start with a tanking season with few wins? Will they have the trust of the locker room? Will they get enough rope from the GM to build slowly?
My prediction is that they'll draft a OL and a WR with the Vikings picks for this year, hit on some rookies, miss on others as is always the case, lose the trust of the players, have difficulties keeping good players next year and the roster will be more or less the same before the next draft. Coaches will feel the pressure to win soon and will give up more than they got from the Vikings to get a QB who will be in the same position as the one they would have drafted this year.
This is not Madden, there are real humans in the team with aspirations, careers they want to improve, they need leaders they can trust to want to win.
And especially in NE, it cannot work now after 20 seasons of this team winning so much.
Unless Dan Marino is available in a draft I think it’s usually a good move for a team to get multiple ones for one high pick. I don’t know the odds but intuitively, if you pick one guy, there are pretty high odds he won’t work out for some reason. See Ryan Leaf. But if you pick three guys, using the multiplier factor in statistics, the odds of all three flaming out are probably near zero. See Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin and Emmitt Smith. And see the Vikings GM from 30 years ago get fired for trading for Herschel Walker.
I get me a Bobby Kraft's all the time. At rub and tuggs.
ALGORITHM
Definitely think that is a good plan for Pats..grab the PSU tackle then Rattler in 2nd...or grab Sanders next year
Pats need an entire offense
Trying using Rich Hill value chart. Based more accurately on history. The chart you showed in a Jimmy Johnson and while the first not the most accurated in today's salary cap and the quarterback contracts have changed since 2011. Rich Hill value 11 and 23 get you 3 and 67 in return. Straight math Vikings do that in a heartbeat. Of course with the percieved quarterback tax they most likely will want 3 firsts but that maybe could be softed for Vikings if is 2026 versus 2025 pick due to 11 and 23 being this year. Another option is 11,23 and 2025 1st for 3 this year and New England's 2025 2nd rounder.
saying we have “one of the worst constructed” teams just shows you have limited knowledge and don’t watch us play… our main focus is our qb, a couple o line pieces , and our receivers. Other than that our defense still remains solid and is always top 15.
Always top 15 with Bill a defensive coaching genius