Who was in Chris Watts' basement?
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- Who was in Chris Watts' basement on the morning of the 13th August 2018? Anyone?
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That whole house should have been forensically examined and I will never understand why it wasn't x
The Ramsey case springs to mind
@@mssleekit341 If you watch the second movie of that it was his sister who did her out
@@mssleekit341 that case was 22 years before this one. I would HOPE investigators could do a lot better nowadays...learn from past mistakes? Not in this case. Very sad.
Agreed!!! I don't get it...
@@rachaelnelson4976 iam sure his sister was there,and she is involt also
One day all this will come out he won't be able to keep it to himself for ever. It will get to him
Unfortunately he is very good at keeping secrets. He learned as a child with his family, and he relishes the control he feels to withhold those secrets. I don't believe it will "get" to him at all.
No he won't ever tell why or what exactly happened
He possibly could keep his mouth shut. Its whats keeping him safe on the inside
Nk was unhinged. She definitely was okay with getting the job done. No doubt about it.
100% agree
based on what? 😬😁✌
I believe Chris said that he found out his sexy empanada is bi polar. Mental issues!
I really think NK was there in the morning she helped Chris. I saw a video with Chris and a woman dressed like Chris holding a child.. IMO she was at the house....
This is the ultimate question, isn’t it? Thank you for all your wonderful videos Michelle. I look forward to your uploads every day.
Four things really freak me out about this case.
1. The creepy audible NK giggle when the K9 and handler walk into the office closet.
2. The commercial depicting a human fetus and a skull in oil at neighbor Nate’s house while they review the security footage from Nate’s camera.
3. The fact the cops were called to the house days after the murders for lights mysteriously turning on at the Watts home.
4. The fact that NK asked Chris what the Metallica song Battery meant around the time of the murders, then he disposed of the bodies in an oil battery because he worked in the oil fields.
I have to say, I thought I was the only one that noticed the video at the neighbor's house. It was way too close to what happened. Almost as if a higher power was trying to give the officers a sign as to what happened. Very creepy.
Well... it gets more disturbing than that. WAY more disturbing regarding the AHS trailer. Have you seen Mary's videos regarding the subject? I cautiously advise you to check them out. The lights turning on was the same day the female was spotted walking to the door and never seen leaving. Clearly... she turned the lights on as she looked for what she came for. The giggle I heard were dolls that laughed...& they stepped on them in the closet, not positive tho. The Metallica song is strange... but if you consider NK knew the plan/ was part of the plan... which I believe...( ESP after Mary's videos, lol) I also believe 'they' had a plan (5 total) & at some point that morning the plan started falling apart. I think she got scared and backed out. (I think she was suppose to drive SW's car to cervi) & by sending that song I think she was already preparing to 'turn on him' if he went down. BUT...I also believe (and this is crazy) that NK & another girl WERE IN THE HOUSE when the police & CW, NA, etc were searching the house. Why do I think something SO crazy? Mary's videos. Lol. When they all walk inside... you can see sunglasses on the floor outside the master bedroom... and THEY MOVE into the room. Someone is under the bed and someone is behind the curtains. You can see the cell phone light up under the bed. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it. You can also see cell phones light up in the bushes by the porch waiting for SW to come home. What she's found blew my mind 🤯 completely. I'll tell you now... it's beyond disturbing. And sadly they show that NK didn't mind getting her hands dirty after all. I still can't wrap my mind around what I saw. It's graphic despite the fact you can barely see. You see enough to know exactly what is happening and it's chilling. Her videos aside...I hope this helps. Seems CW is responsible for the AHS trailer as sick as that sounds.
Yoo that sh^t on tv at the neighbors was crazy... good eye
@@theshadylady1982 can you give me a video to reference to?? I am related to someone that is able to work on this case. I'm not allowed to say who since this has been re opened recently, but please help me help the family here...
@@theshadylady1982 Ok you have my attention 😜 who is Mary? I'd really be interested in her video and it appears @Kayla Gruce may be interested as well...
Deiter the dog was put in the basement. Remember when Chris first came back and opened the basement door and deiter came out. Nicole A even said deiter never gets locked in basement. Great video as always michele.x
That means the dog did get locked up that time
Something happened in that basement the dog kepted barking on certain places
Ridiculous the lack of detective work on this case it really ows my mind honestly !!
Yep 👍
Dogs are not trained to bark for a signal cause they bark all the time.
@@stevesmom9868 wrong. Dogs are trained to alert any way you train them to.
@@LisaNH934 exactly. Bark, point & circle are a few i know
I think Nk was there heartbreaking RIP shanann and the beautiful babies ❤❤❤❤
I think nk may have helped him clean up Michele but I think ur right about her not wanting to get her hands dirty. And no she didn't do a very good job cleaning up either.
She got her hands dirty. Real dirty. Have you seen Mary's videos? Hard to see and very graphic... they show just how dirty she got. Or some other girl with a long pony tail. Well... actually there are TWO girls there, two pony tails, one in white and one in black and two other guys besides CW. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it... even then... I'm still having trouble believing A GROUP of people are capable of this for some $$. Well $$ & perhaps sacrificial purposes. I know, I know... sounds crazy. It IS crazy. Go watch...I want EVERYONE to see it/ know it and everyone else involved needs to be arrested. Too many people have seen/ know now so it's only a matter of time before it all comes out. Even with the corruption... they can't keep it hidden much longer. They underestimated just how deep some were willing to go to get the truth. They thought they thought of everything. They didn't. All the things that don't add up now will make sense. CW has lied so much because he's had to. (And because he's a narcissistic ass. ) keep an open mind cuz you're gonna need it...& even then... it's even more twisted than us reg people can process.
@@theshadylady1982 mary? I'm sorry I don't know of her work but I'm definitely open to seeing whst anyone has got on the case as long is its not Shazam style vidslol
@@seriously..... it's Mary C and they're a little hard to follow because there's no commentary. You get slowed down versions of the body cam footage and the viewer is left to figure it out. She believes there's someone hiding under the bed in the master bedroom and someone hiding behind the curtains on Shanaan's side of the bed when police enter the house for the first time.
Nikki kessinger and her friend Jim
I think NK and a friend help the monster at the oil tank and where she put his wife no way he did this alone!
He could not have had help, those stairs to the oil tanks would not have taken 2 people, CW would not have taken the chance of someone knowing what he had done, narc are very clever people!!!!!!
You can’t tell me vivant doesn’t have a database...
They didn't check anything because they didn't want to take the chance of it showing others involved- they did not want that!
The time gap concerns me. How she talks to him at 6am and then not again until 2pm. Then after 2 its like consistent calls within hour after hour... 😒 could she have been there? Good explanation as to why they wouldn't be talking on the phone during this time zone.
Yep...there and trying to cover tracks/clean up mess. NicHoe is guilty as sin!
I just love your channel! My daughter's name is Michelle, after the song my Michelle by Paul McCarthy.
There was activity along with basement and garage doors opened and closed after Chris left for work.
Shannon didn't kill her kids it was completely Chris Watts that lady from the other channel needs to get her head asset my medical experts
I did enjoy some of your videos until you started steering involvement away from NK...the signs and probability are pointing to her involvement more and more as times moves on, the jigsaw pieces are starting to fit at last......theres no sides to this case just the truth and justice so people need to put the barriers down and see it for what it really is not the yarns thats spun....
Is that a purple sleep mask on the bed??
Yes also a dead wasp was on the bed
I think NK is as their
Kids was not dead first
He killed his wife first
Then Cece then Bella
Kids spoke to Frankie Sr
That night before on a live
Chat
I think NK was to go and get SW car (were i think SW ring was) but yes just what i think.but we dont know
I don't think it was the kids. Basements are scary to young kids. If they were down there then someone put them there.
The basement had large windows, was clean, carpeted and very tidy. There was access to the back yard. The girl's little lounges and their trampoline were there. I think they were quite used to using the basement to play, especially when their Mum would have been organizing her stores and so on down there herself.
Brilliant as always Michelle, love your channel 👏👍
I truly believe NK was there! There is just something in my gut that tells me that!
100%
Well the victims family obviously thinks it was just him there
based on what, i dont think so! there is no evidence for that! 😬😁✌
It makes sense that the amount of activity in the basement could be explained by the children. Good job!
She was there when S.W. came home the bed had a MASK?? Whos WAS it??
Happy Easter
I really beleive she was involved in some way. Either she helped with the killings OR she helped clean up and was going to help move SWs car and belongings later that day OR she may have even used black magic or hypnosis to make him do it all. I remember she would mention that he would just suddenly fall asleep mid sentence and then just wake back up an hour later finishing his exact sentence. That doesnt sound like drug/exhaustion Sleep nodding out to me. Well...atleast not from my personal experience. You usually wake back up a bit more confused than that..
However to plays devil advocate here. SW and everyone involved with CW said how black and white his brain worked. Remember all the things SW posted on Facebook about all the comical ways he would take her instructions so literally? He really lacked common sense. What if NK said to him that she wanted his family gone before she would move forward with him? What if she said that she wished he was single with no kids? However she meant this just as she just wanted him to be divorced and a custody arrangement finalised? He took these statements literally...thinking she wanted them completely gone from the world? After the murders maybe she was freaked out by her own statements? She looked back and felt guilty that her own words lead to the murder of a 2 children? Maybe she was just scared that in some way she could be charged with organising a murder when that wasn't her intention? Maybe she just didn't trust the police and their legal process because of her past experiences with them? Everyone says that if you are truly innocent then there's no way you can be roped in with a crime you weren't apart of and that just isn't the truth. People say if you are innocent then you do not need a lawyer, you must take a lie detector test and you must tell them absolutely everything even if you know it has nothing to do with a crime. Unfortunately people like myself know the reality of the world just doesn't work like that and there will be cops who think you are guilty and find a way to trap you. As im writing this I don't beleive this is what happend lmao but I really thought it's an interesting thought. Playing devils advocate literally
Contrary to popular opinion…hypnosis cannot make you do what you do not want to do….hypnotherapists always assess how much you want to change before accepting a client for hypnosis for a problem such as smoking….and as for black magic….are you serious.? And as for falling asleep! It is possible he had petite mal….although he should not have been driving…but that seems a very petty complaint against a man who murdered his wife and two children…
Those poor little girls 😢 what horror that must of seen before they got murdered....
Hello Michelle!!!! I get so excited when I see your notification!!!! Hope your having a beautiful Easter!!! Love and prayers nd lots of hugs too!!!! Xoxo 🌹❤
You're doing a great job!
I think NK just put it all in his crazy head..Remember she had him look up the lyrics to that song and then talked about dark things with him..NK inadvertently helped.
I'm not that sure about the 111min phone call.... How about if NK called CW, left the phone on so it could seem that she was talking on the phone, left it at her house so it could ping there and went to the Watts house?
Ok so I've watched him back up in the garage a million times...we all know how far he goes...ok, if you notice how much room the Lexus takes in there, its barely walkable in the front of car and the back is so close to that door meaning... there's no room for him to back up that much!!! I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE LEXUS WAS NOT THERE THAT MORNING SO HE WOULD HAVE ROOM!!! Or he parked it funny so he would have room...idk was just throwing that out there!!! Who agree's with me🤷♀️
OH ALSO..why would NK want CW to prove to her that he was actually at work by sending a picture of him at Cervi 319??? I have so many questions ugh!!!
she wanted proof he did it because it was planned by both of them..at least that's how id perceive that request .
That basement is 5 times the size of my house
And mine!
Mine too!
And whose cellphone is that sitting on the weight bench toward the very end of the video???
My opinion is that Nk drove past the house to check CW was not lieing to her about going straight to the well site on Monday morning and thought maybe he was going to stay at home with shanann and the girls because she had been away all weekend. Once she saw his truck had gone she knew that he must have gone work. That's why her phoned pinged there. People appear to forget that she is dating a married man who says that he is leaving his wife and she doesn't trust him a 100% she is jealous and was checking up on his story because he normally went to the office in a morning. So many things can be explained if people think like a woman who is having affair with a married man instead of a affair with a murderer.
Then why doesn’t she come forward and just say that . What your saying is plausible I used to ( in my twenties ) drive to my bf house to see if he was home and that’s a reg situation nobody married so I can def see her doing that . in fact in makes sense BUT The problem is and it’s a big problem why wouldn’t she just tell LE that ? I mean that’s a big chunk to leave out considering they were murdered that morning . I think any honest human being with a heart would want to tell LE everything they could to help find them at that point . Then she finds out they were murdered and she continues to lie . I would be crying my eyes out I mean who cares about the affair at that point 4 PEOPLE were murdered hand your phone over and say EVERYTHING . She is making herself guilty by lying and almost 3 years later hiding . Just my thoughts .
@@leelovegl because she is more worried about the naked photos the sex chat and anything else that is going to end up in the press for the world to see. Remember that they don't get her full phone records until much later. And would any normal person think about where your phone is going to ping when you are trying to protect your reputation. She knew that she was about to become a woman who had a affair with a murderer in every paper and tv news channel. She wanted to protect herself as much as possible.
Pings jump towers!
@@pamelagwinnutt3663 that still doesn’t help everyone understand why she lied . Again I wouldn’t be thinking about my naked body if three children and a mother were just killed . And since when do they release naked pictures ? She compared herself to Amber Frey well she looked up the money she made off a book deal I don’t remember seeing her naked pictures in that case . In fact watch the ID channel “deadly affairs “ they NEVER release even blurred out images that’s not a thing that’s illegal That just doesn’t make sense . So again if it was me yes I would probably say I’m really embarrassed for what you are going to see but we need to help find this family here take my phone . I would also NOT lie about knowing he was married from the beginning knowing she was pregnant before the media . Those things don’t make you guilty of murder she had no reason to lie unless there is more to it . I’m not saying she committed murder but I strongly believe she has something to hide hence why she’s hiding . Also don’t you find it kind of odd that not one person in her circle has spoken out? It’s like she literally vanished . I personally think if she was completely innocent she would come forward and make that money that she wanted to when she looked it up the book deal . she would do exclusive interviews if not for the money to clear her name but she can’t because God knows what Chris could or would say. This is ALL just my opinions I’m not here to change your mind but I would love for someone to help me understand and you can’t if the best you can say is she’s worried about her naked body ohhh so that’s why she lied , pinged on that mrng , hesitated to give her phone up , forgets her last LONG convo with him but remembers stupid details of conversations in the beginning of their relationship , looked Shanann up a year before she even hooked up with him I probably could keep going . Go listen to Dr Phill podcast about her ...
@Pamela Gwinnutt Yes yes yes I agree 100%
The question is what has been withheld from discovery and why.
They have Trent bolte and that Amanda tinder interview whom they totally discounted so whatever was held back can’t be any less significant than a false claim.
The reason you think that, is because you think that she may wanted them out of the picture for herself. Oh no that wasn't it, she wanted them for other reasons had nothing to do with Chris other than setting him up which he's so stupid he let them so I blame him however you're just looking in the wrong place
Got any proof of that?
Thanks again for your good work and thoughtful analysis.
She might have called from the house
I could be wrong but @ 5:24 looks like a door of some type on back wall behind the trampoline. I don’t see that anywhere else on basement walls. Would make for a great hiding place & how far it goes back, also does it meet up w/ bottom of stairs where the dogs were alerting.
Why they didnt take DNA TEST from the bed in the basement?
They did no forensics anywhere in the basement.
Idiots skipped that doings
Why were gloves never used !
Maybe Chris took Shannon out the basement door to the backyard and put her in his truck over the short fence. Somewhere in a video they were talking about tire tracks going up to Chris's back fence. Also the basement door was unlocked.
There is no basement door its garden level could only get out through a window.
Ok no basement door but a door on the side of the garage
Maybe they took the dead from
The back so now one could see
Them doing so
I think them waking back up was shanann trying to give them a second chance :( I know that sounds silly but I can imagine trying to give Chris a second chance at not killing them and hoping he would come to his senses and he did it again anyways
Did you see how they may have figured out how NK and CW met? on Reddit.
What it said?
They knew each other from their job at Anadarko
@@rachaelnelson4976 see the Crazy Crime Chick link. It is about how long they knew each other and why NK googled SW in 2017 - way before beginning at his job site.
Do you have a link to that reddit thread?
@@sharonsekhon9475in safety meeting? It's more than plausible. They had lot of them after that an accident.
You do good work Michelle, keep it up !!
She was there not to clean up she was there to help her nasty boyfriend. They did eat out that night planning it
I believe NK's father is former law enforcement or similar. He also vouched for "Jim" during a police interview. I believe his connections, whatever they were, kept NK out of big trouble. I personally think NK was involved in some way. Possibly even the "mastermind" of the murders.
Darling nasty Nikki was there with Chris
Where is the tub he said he put her in? Do you know if they took it for evidence, or wasn't it known at the time what he had done till he was in jail? Wish they had had the foresight to investigate further regardless to his confession, but it is what it is. And that ping, throws a spanner in the works.
To me that ping has to mean something. I don't think she was there while he killed his family but I think it's plausible that he called her after in a panic and she flew over to meet him somewhere. Maybe they met somewhere just along the route to work or maybe at or near his house but that would make sense on why she was texting him those lyrics and why she wanted him to delete everything.
Or since she knew Shannan was coming home she could've just wanted to driving by the house to see if she could see anything out of jealousy/fear that she'd lose Chris. She knew their relationship was going to change drastically now that Shannan was going to be home and I'm SURE she was bringing that up to Chris over and over again and freaking out about it, especially since between NC and that Arizona trip she hadn't had to deal with Shannan much aside from phone calls. She might have given Chris an ultimatum that night on that 111 minute phone call - me or her. She probably didn't mean to kill his family but Chris might have taken that way hence why they both conveniently "forgot" about what they talked about. He could've called her that morning and said he did it "for her". She might have freaked out and rushed to meet him in person somewhere near his house to see what he meant or if he had really killed his family. That might be why she wanted everything deleted because even if she didn't mean to literally "get rid of" your family chris might have taken that way and maybe even said something along the lines in a text or call "I did what you wanted" and even if that wasn't what she wanted legally that might put her in a bind.
That ping might have something to do with Chris calling her and telling her what he had done that morning but I bet if he hadn't killed his family you'd have started seeing a lot of pings from her phone in that area while she drove by a million times and maybe even started showing up if Chris dragged his feet with the separation. Nk was clearly jealous and felt intimidated by Shannan and the life Chris had with her and I think having to deal with Shannan being in town after all that time of having Chris to herself I think we really would've started to see her jealous side and many more of those incidents where she ran out and he had to "console" her. Chris just might have taken "get rid of your family" literally, especially since a lot of people have said he did have trouble with social clues and nuance and did take things 100% literally.
That’s a really good idea you’ve mentioned here. Makes a lot of sense. 👍
Well said (and written)! I think this is the most plausible scenario as well. I don't believe for a second that NK would have gotten her hands dirty, but I believe she fired the ball and may have been lurking around to see if he was leaving Shanann or what. I can easily see that happening.
I don't know if its how they do it in US; but why are the police etc not saying NK is innocent, had nowt to do with anything etc..hopefully because they're holding on to something. If there wasn't evidence she'd looked online about both CW and SW before even meeting CW I wouldn't be wondering about her at all.
Agree with you about NK not being dumb enough to get her hands dirty. She also involved herself in the investigation more than she should have. Many a time guilty people stay close to the case in order to keep an eye on how close they are to being discovered. I'm still a fence sitter when it comes to NK' being involved, murdering pregnant wife and two little girls takes a certain type of commitment and I don't think she has it. She is to self centered and way into self preservation to do anything to threaten her freedom. If she were involved it would not have happened on the day of the ultra sound, she would have come up with a plan as to why Shannan would have been away from her phone and everything would not have been left behind. It's hard to tell to be honest. If she was involved she would have helped Chris not get caught so easily, more thought would have been put into it.
Thank you for keeping it real! 👍
He's now saying he wasn't there when the murders took place
More of his lies video shows him coming out of the Garage
Is it AD who's saying that?
@@suvituulikkivahanen2600 who else🤢
Where did u hear this please?
@@pamala7676 on a couple of other creators channels
I cannot believe they didn't do any swabs or whatever they do in the basement! Did they bother doing them upstairs at all??? I heard somewhere on one of the channels that Jimbo may have had NK's phone at her place on call to Chris for that time? And if so maybe NK was in the basement with Chris!
Hey luv I sure you know already but chis admitted it now she didn't kill the kids n he did
One person that claims they talked to shannon said that she was trying to get to her phone and that nk was holding her head down
Why don tyou stop about the watts family..its done😣
Is that a girls purple silk eye sleep mask on the bed?
Turn the lights on 💡why search with 🔦?
There’s something about that basement. I almost think that everything took place down there. there’s something eerie about that basement when you’re showing that that video.the placement of things as odd it doesn’t go with the rest of the house it’s dirty it’s unkept. everything labeled upstairs look at this mess in the basement. Odd very odd
Why not search that bed for dna material ?
They didn't do any forensics anywhere in the house as far as I know
@@MichelleAfterDark Thanks
Good thing dieter isn't a parrot
Did you do a video that shows chris' steps inside of the house??? If so where can i see that?
Don’t you think it’s extremely odd that the bed is unmade. and there’s all kinds of barriers around the bed there’s plastic bins there’s boxes. if you look all around that bed it’s wall off. it’s so odd so out of character for The way that Shanna and Chris kept in their house. you will find the same disarray underneath the stairway it doesn’t make any sense everything else seems to be order. but the two areas.
What if she didn’t have her phone with her when she was there?! Maybe her buddy had it at her house and he had the long conversation with CW?
I see a woman in the closet on one of the body cam videos! Can I send you the video and the timestamp?? You would have to watch the video and .25 speed.
I tried emailing armchair detective to point this out but no one got back to me. I think someone needs to show it on RUclips!
Yeah,I've got a screenshot of that
@@Summersue so you’ve seen the woman? Why are there no videos about this?? She’s so clear to see!
Which cam?
@@g.m.3054 yes. I will post it here. You have to look at it at .25 speed and I’ll give you the timestamp
@@g.m.3054 ruclips.net/video/NQyuGa6R8rs/видео.html. Look at 24:14-24:17 in very slow speed. .25 speed
I like what you said about speculation based on facts. There is nothing wrong with it because there is no other way to figure out what likely happened, or some of what did happen, since he’s such a freakin’ liar, Mr got all Christian.
I’m not crazy about Shannan, but it makes me sad for her and her family, that people blame her, it’s ridiculous, she was so excited about Nico.She liked being a mom. I, very much, do like that about her, she was sweet with those babies.
She did not go to work that day Aug 13th
She didn't clock in, but she did clock out on the 13th, and she pinged in Platetville in the afternoon.
A bit off topic but.....even if CW comes out and says NK was involved, unless the details included corroborating forensic evidence, there is no way NK could be convicted.
If she had stayed in the basement that night, there should be DNA evidence for that like hair. So unless the police took the sheeting as evidence, we will never know....
Could a woman look at this case without prejudice? Would she be capable of seeing the truth even if it was hard...
Would it bother you to suggest she was flirting and interested in him because he said he was going build or buy a new home with his half of the settlement...
She saw the home. She saw the shoes and the walk inn closets and she was thinking.. Hmmmm
If you think women don't think that way you will never find the truth.
NK thought he could fast track her life into a home. She thought he was going to get a divorce split the assets and move on living an upgraded life.
I think her power play needs were to hook a married man. She talks of her exes with Charlotte as all being failures, she talks with CW as being failed by past partners. She talks of having to 'hide' from exes.... which fits the discard stage... her ongoing devaluing of exes fits. Her self esteem needs were motivated to steal a married man, an unavailable man-' if he leaves his wife for me, i'm super special'. Her craven need to 'hook' men... have their desires for her be elevated.
CW was primed.... socially inept, dumb as a brick when it comes to self reliance, self confidence and equal partnership. He had beened conditioned his whole life to chase acceptance from his conditional mother. He modelled his behaviours on his father's aloof behaviours... not arrogantly aloof.... shutdown aloof, unable or unwilling to express true emotional expression, His father modelled deception. Sneaky sneaky drug addictions, money sliding out of the wife's clutches ( control).
He desired a wildly expressive, emotive and demonstrative loving life... it would have been intoxicating to be drawn into Shanann's family... they loved loud ( expressively). Shanann was confident and assertive, successful ( materially appeared successful) adored by her family, immense pride and expressions of that by her parents.... it would have been such a juxtaposition to his family dynamics.
NK hooked a lame duck, her damaged psyche sang to his damaged psyche...her use of sexualised control mechanisms raised his self esteem. He must have been euphoric that a swishy hipped giggler chose him! not realising he was the weakest in the work pack to be hooked, and certainly not the first, fifth or fiftieth to be 'worked' by NK.
He was cornered... four women at him. His mother and sister' his wife and his paramour. He was useless at sneaking around. He was pulled three ways... his mother and sister harping on about his crazy wife, playing pathetic victim, his wife, vulnerable, pregnant and discarded in his attention and care, and the cling-on wedding dress shopper shag.
His biggest tell is his fear of disclosure... the disclosure of being a monster... the nice guy mask torn away. Just another dirtbag screwing around on his wife and the monster who murdered his defenceless children and wife, and disposed of them so callously.... the shame of exposure.
Was NK there that day? i still say no. Was anyone other than him? i still say no. He did this. Him. Was he influenced by NK? absolutely. i believe the 111 min phone call was a melt down of epic proportions... the' choose now, sh*t or get off the pot' type ultimatum. I believe NK absolutely cornered him and pressured him and tantrumed him and said you have to choose.
Hence her complete subterfuge, avoidance, dodgy as all get out behaviours. She was scared sh*teless of being implicated, or guilty of conspiracy or coersion.
i think she did a drive by to check he wasn't still there with the wife... the 'did he choose her?' check.
an addendum: does anyone else recall the 'blame' being placed on CW by his harpy mother for his father's addictions? That he was so heartbroken CW moved out, the father turned to drugs? and only the 'good son' could rescue him? because it was his fault?
Guilt and reward... manipulation at it's finest for an unaccepted conditional response dynamic...
See the pattern... blame and guilt trip... deflect any responsibility off the mother.
The system failed Shannan n kids. They could easily find hair sample for dna test n didn't do that.
just watched ur live perfromance mich nice to see u at last i would like to talk to invidually cos i got so many thories about this case however its nice to see u live im glad i catch u live like plz keep the live ones coming like cos i got my own opinions on the case which is just as much as just larry u should go on with him i will when hes next on i will post o n his wall to look at ur channel...... but thanks for that live tho nice too see u . xx
I have always referred to myself as a conspiracy factualist.
Basement seems cavernous. Is there a bed down there?
yes
He had to sleep their
I will throw this out there, if NK was involved in the hiding of the bodies b/c of the late arrival of SW, could CW have told LE he would plead guilty to all charges as long as NK was left alone. If LE arrested NK, he would not plead guilty and insist on a full trial? I can see CW being faithful to NK's future well being, much like he was faithful to SW's needs before he met NK?
Definitely possible.
Dog didn't bark til he got home... what was he doing down there
Colorado has great basements.
I don't think Shannon kill her girls she loves them i think maybe Nicole was there and help him and maybe she left her phone behind not to get into trouble because she want him for herself because she want to give him his first son i think they should give her a lie dictor test
Oh I think SW could've definitely killed the girls. She was evil
@@stevesmom9868
No she was not evil
His family got life ins money
After he killed them
Watts are evil Rebel
Inlaws to the dead wife
He was the murder / cheater
He killed them to be with NK
@@stevesmom9868 Are you Cindy or Jaime. You just as demented as those two women. You really need to get a life. Go on Crazy Lana and J4j, KK. Or Mensa Channels your well suited to these Toxic lieing Channels. That don't know the truth if it flew over them. I see your nasty and Viscous Comments about Beautiful Shan'ann all the time. Go back to the Crazies they are calling you. Troll.
His tart
I was
That lady cop did absolutely palm a medicine bottle out of that bin! We know there was pain meds there! Watch it at @2:08.
Yep...she has flashlight in left hand & palms something in her right hand (?) Good catch 👍 this video footage sucks - the police incompetence in this case baffles me!
@@LisaNH934 I know, it’s bad! But I was shocked she palmed something!!
@@kdfulton3152 i agree! That video was so unprofessional. Don't police know that it might be needed in a trial? You would think there would be items listed in the 'recovery' if they were removed from any part of this house? She took something!?
OMG! Good eye, I didn't notice that and I've watched it so many times. Ridiculous.
Wow! What a scumbag. Good eye!!
For goodness sake, there's absolutely no evidence that nk was there. They knew she was at work😣
She was not at her job she had called in not to go to work
@@rachaelnelson4976 omg, read the discovery
@@rachaelnelson4976 she left at 3 to meet Jim, theres no evidence anybody left that house after watts left, all windows n doors locked from t inside
@@carollucey111 I don’t believe everything the stupid discovery says cops miss a lot of things cops are brain dead
@@rachaelnelson4976 It's a fact she was at work. Why do some of you people not believe that monster watts did it on his own? She's a motive for sure but she was not in the house that morning. He just didn't get the chance to dump the car and whatever else, he never expected Nicole Atkinson to rumble his plan so early. I think NK might've been spying on him on the way to work because she was suspicious why he wasn't going to office. She might have thought he was spending the morning with Shanann. That I wouldn't put past her.
I agree there's Norway in hell Shanann would EVER harm her children. N I seriously doubt NK was there when it happened, she plays such a detestable role in all this people really wanna believe she was more involved than she actually was.
Boring truth is not enough for everyone even it should be. It's called true crime bc its based on true events not fantacy crime narrative.