FIA: We created it to stop drivers from disrespect track limits Reality: *They created mini versions of every single turbo ramp ever in Mario Kart or Crash Turbo Fueled*
FIA: We have rumble strips to warn drivers of the track limits, so that they don't get a penalty! Also FIA: We're going to implement harder track limit indicators that often launch drivers 50 feet into the air if they even thing about going off track limits.
Who thought of this? Not only are literal speed bumps on racetracks a bad idea, but even worse because the cars who are going to hit those at 100mph are most likely fragile and low racecars with stiff suspensions. If you want to prevent corner cutting, give penalties or just put some grass where you don't want cars to go.
Couldnt agree more. Invest in cameras and people to watch the camera, give out penalties, grid places for situations where you missed a obvious penalty for future races.....literally anything but putting a fucking bump on a track where cars are racing.....It just doesnt make sense at all. So friggen dangerous and these are cars that, once a bit of air gets beneath them, theyll fly up and put people in the stands, safety personell who might be track side, and the drivers at risk of a flying tonne hurling at them uncontrolably.
@@Amm17ar you dont even need cameras. I think its motogp that are using sensors (and probably many more do it by now). They can determine a track limit violation far more precise then any camera and everytime a rider gets flagged by the system the stewards just check the footage to see if it was cutting a corner or something like avoiding a crash etc. Its just ridiculous that in the year 2022 those stupid curbs are still a thing.
Yeah, these bumps are by far the worst thing on track, irl and games the sausage kurb makes the corner more boring, tighter and makes you go slower, they can ruin ur race if u turn slightly early and its hard to re correct yourself once you do, not only do they make crashes more frequent and dangerous, it generally makes racing more boring, most the time they aren't even put in the proper place and seem to be also preventing people from putting 2 wheels on the inside curb, which last time I checked was legal
Literally never. They're a great way of saying "don't cut this corner or you and your car will surely be destroyed" so it's just a stupid way of trying to stop corner cutting but all it does is when someone accidentally cuts the corner (to avoid cars, breaks failed etc.) they get launched to the air with no control, mostly landing back ti the track with a destroyed car and many other fast oncoming traffic to avoid them. It's so stupid.
I don't know but at least half of these crashes would be serious with or without sausage kerbs. Nissany and Hauger for instance, without that kerb Hauger would have t-boned Nissany. Is that any better?
@@100benny Hauger managed brake quite a bit before contact and the cars are already made to crunkle the energy through the entire car. If the Halo would’ve failed (Not saying they will, but look at Zhou’s rolling bar breaking off in Britain so never say never) the lad would’ve been decapitated, the other w/o being indeed a t-bone, but a low intensity t-bone.
@@gibospartan6185 los coches de este año dependen mucho del efecto suelo, así que no muy conveniente digamos tener eso en la pista con coches que depende de agarre del suelo
@@gibospartan6185 Incorrect, when a car goes airborne, it is unable to maintain speed due to the high levels of drag it experiences in the air compared to the drag on the ground, note how Dumbreck's CLR only flew a few feet after a blow over before landing in the trees just before the second kink, when Rockenfeller's R18 remained on the ground, it skated further along the track past the second kink because most of the energy and momentum was preserved due to the lower centre of gravity and the longer period it spent on the ground.
@@DR3ADER1 Yes but that's not the point. Barriers at circuits are not designed to handle flying cars. Flying cars can avoid barriers designed to absorb energy like tyre walls and tecpro barriers. See: 2018 F3 Macau Race (Sophia Flörsch) It also runs the risk of going over or destroying catch fencing which can put marshals and spectators at risk. See: 2022 Indy Lights Road America Race (Christian Bogle) 2018 F3 Macau Race (Sophia Flörsch) 2019 F3 Monza Race (Alexander Peroni) In addition, cars are not designed to go airborne and open wheel cars have drivers sitting almost on the car's floor with no protection for hard landings resulting in fractured vertebrae for the below: 2020 F2 Spain Race (Sean Gelael) 2021 W Series COTA Race (Abbie Eaton) 2021 F4 COTA Race (Christian Weir) Indeed flying cars will slow down aerodynamically due to drag but that does not help if the car crashes shortly after becoming airborne. It doesn't help if the car lands somewhere unsafe (Like over a catch fence where it can injure marshals, photographers, etc). And it doesn't help if the car lands at a bad angle or on a bump. Flying cars throws a lot of variables into the mix which simply cannot be controlled safely unlike most crashes.
The ground effects are the inverse of lift, kerbs prevent the cars from pinballing on the ground or worse, going to a dead stop on a particularly stiff wall. Sudden dead stops in crashes are WORSE than rollovers because the inertia is greater.
@@DR3ADER1 When you're in the air, you cannot slow down and have no control, leaving you to slam into the wall at the speed that you've left the ground with. That is why sausage kerbs and poorly designed kerbs shouldn't be in racing at all, because they will eventually lead to a sudden stop into the walls in the air instead of on the ground, which is objectively worse.
@@nallid7357 Incorrect. When you're airborne, you need thrust to gain and maintain speed unless you're very high in the sky(as in, plane height, several thousand meters in the air). All of that forward momentum is countered by air resistance on all sides of the car, and you immediately slow down and are brought back onto the ground. Because cars need a fulcrum to gain speed, such as the ground. You generate a ton of drag in the air, drag has a negative effect on your momentum and you land straight back down. Look at most blowovers in NASCAR, where the car in the air is passed by the entire pack, as it loses all of its speed and momentum. You need to pay attention more in physics class, and learn more about how powerful the air is at high speeds, especially in regards to drag, air resistance and lift. It's funny how many people ignore such factors to reinforce their narratives. You don't gain speed in the air without thrust and propulsion in any vehicle that's not a flying vehicle. That's basic physics 101.
The second clip with Dennis is wild. Without the halo that would have been one of the most brutal deaths in motorsport. Safety has luckily come a long way (except the SOS itches obviously).
The crash of Sophia Flörsch in Macau is still one of the craziest crashes I have ever seen, the fact that she got away with „only“ some fractures is unbelievable
Yeesh. These things have got to go. You'd think people would've gotten the hint after Sophia Floersch's launch at Macau, but apparently not. Also, it's one thing to launch lightweight open-wheel formula cars, but when the curbs are even launching the absolute bricks that are used in NASCAR, that's a major problem.
This is very true. When these kerbs are launching 3600+ lb racecars, a small open-cockpit car that weighs not even half of that will result in some serious issues as we've seen thus far.
Yep and it's even worse placing them on the outside of high speed corners. I won't say my country is completely clean in regards to sausage kerbs, but most, if not all permanent tracks have no sausage kerbs as far as I'm aware. Some street circuits do (Surfers Paradise, maybe Adelaide), but they're not on the outside of high speed corners.
@@callummclachlan4771 Oh, I've got no room to talk, as my home track is not only featured in the video, but it's one of the ones launching NASCAR competitors. (IMS). That said, those weren't true sausage kerbs, but close enough. I will cut them a little slack in that that was the first time NASCAR ran on the road course at Indy; 1st time you run any series at any track, there's going to be issues of some sort.
@@mazda_rt24-p Both first she got launched by the kurb and then by the car as well making her go even higher over the barrier. Absolute miracle no one got killed
FIA: “We need ways to stop corner cutting.” “How about we put ramps on the track that will launch the cars in the air and break their spine on impact when they corner cut.” FIA: “PERFECT!”
I believe NASCAR actually removed the curbs at the IMS road course for the 2022 Cup Series race after all the problems they caused in 2021, which I have to give them credit for, and it made the 2022 race infinitely better. You know it's bad when not even NASCAR wants them.
@@the_Jdawg88 I remember they kept having to red-flag the race because cars kept wrecking and destroying the curb until they eventually just threw their hands up and said "screw it, we're getting rid of it".
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I know for certain that Abbie Eaton is fully committed to eliminating sausage kerbs after her incident. She highlighted one in GT racing on her own social media a few days ago...
Just days after this was posted, there was another scary crash in the WEC at Monza. Missed braking point, went over a sausage kerb and rolled, tearing the door off. Without the kerb it would have been just a trip to the run-off.
I swear we are waiting for a fatal accident, so far we’ve seen: A female driver fly into a marshal stand, wounding a few marshals and fracturing her back. We’ve seen a lad almost got his head chopped of. We’ve seen another lad almost have his head squished between his car and the barrier. We’ve seen a lad almost die in the first season of a new race-class. We’ve seen an LMP2 car fly. We’ve had a female driver break two vertebrae. We’ve had a lad lose a race because a kerb thought “hurdur funne yeet”. We’ve seen a lad almost do an Anthoine Hubert… We’ve seen an American pull an insane stunt. We’ve seen teammates almost kill each other. We’ve seen NASCARs do some of the biggest crashes seen on road-circuits. We’ve seen a WEC lad flip hugely. (Not included in video) We’ve seen too many incidents, they need to be removed.
@@jez_77 I sure hope so too. If he was to injure himself (which will happen at some point given how reckless he is), it's his problem. But seeing him injuring other drivers which do have some talent unlike him is not right whatsoever
@@astrovisionbroadcastingunion FIA watching his driving should ban him immediately. Id rather painfully watch "drivers" like Deledda who struggles to set 107% but at least is not a moving danger to everyone else. FIA definitely became too soft in terms of not letting certain drivers to race even if they should ban them. Basically 107% rule is not in use anymore but is far less an issue than giving permission to race to the individuals like Nissany or Caldwell
The fact that these type of kerbs cause problems in so many different series with different spec cars should be enough for organisations like the FIA to rule them out.
The problem is that these kerb doesn't pose a problem for F1 because F1 car have insane downforce. So they prolly think that because F1 cars are fine then other series are absolutely fine as well
@@kami_narisama F1 cars aren't fine, though. There were two incidents at the Silverstone GP where cars hit sausage kerbs and took flight, which would have resulted in two deaths without the 'halo'.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227sorry, Silverstone? Are you referring to Zhou's flip? Because that one isn't because of sausage kerb. The other i can recall is on F2, not F1
At least for both the Charlotte roval and Indy road course nascar races the kerbs got removed before the race or mid race after they proved to be dangerous. Would be good to see other tracks do that.
The officials need to think about which is really more important. People cutting the track and gaining an advantage, or being involved in a potentially life threatening accident. I don't really think the sausage curb is worth it. It creates more problems than it fixes.
Well, the maths from the video which I just did proves that the officials already know that track limits are more favourable, as only 27.778% of the clips shown contained injuries, and a further 40% of THOSE incidents had severe vertebrae fractures. The maths never lie. Even in this biased video.
@@DR3ADER1 Severe injuries that didn't need to happen because the damn sausage curb didn't need to be there. JFC, Why is every dumb comment on this video from you?
Alex Peroni at Monza, WEC backflip and others at Spa’s radillion (hope I spelled that correctly) and eau rouge aren’t sausage curb accidents, but… that doesn’t take away from the premise of this video and I think you did a really good job. Others should subscribe. Sausage curbs be gone.
Technically she didnt "walk away" from it... But i mean, just the fact she still alive is unbelievable. Nevertheless making a full recovery and comeback to racing. It shows how much luck and safety technology you need to cancel out a shit invention like the sausage kerb.
0:31 dang lol that’s some instant karma. Hits/runs/pushes the guy off track, takes the corner like normal, then gets the t-bar t-boned by the same guy he forced off!
@@RobertBarton86 certainly karma is a poor word to describe it. i am glad both drivers are ok. that being said, my momma always told me, if you play shitty games youre gonna win shitty prizes. pretty similar to karma but a life threatening crash is obviously never "deserved."
1:48 that barrier was moved back later in the weekend and in 2019 the chicane was tightened with the removal of sausage kerbs that were in the final turn and on the exit
That full-flight crash into the media stand at the F3 in Macau in 2018 was horrendous. I still wince when I see it hit the stand especially after hearing of the many injuries sustained by photographers and the driver.
It wasn't intentional since he was probably just taking the racing line and not expecting the other guy to dive bomb him. Very negligent especially for a professional but not blocking
Whilst I appreciate both your effort and point about crappy sausage kerbs, it might be more transparent to change your video title than add a pinned caveat disclaimer addressing its inaccuracy.
I forgot Heidfeld's FE crash was off a sausage curb. This has been happening for eight years at least and nobody seriously thought to fix this until now.
@@DR3ADER1 You sound like the fools who used to argue that that you're better off not wearing a seat belt so that you can be thrown clear in a crash instead of trapped in the car
So glad this kind of videos are getting renewed visibility after Silverstone week end, this madness needs to stop before we have another pilot injured or worse
Someone must've laughed their socks off thinking this up: "Let's make a ramp to violently launch high velocity vehicles into the air and over any barriers - perhaps even into spectators areas!!! LOL!! 🤣🤘🤣🤘🤣🤘🤣"
Loss of control, unsafe rejoin (the worst of all), weaving at the track out of panic... The guy did it all in about 2 seconds. Like already said, if not for the halo it would be a mess, literally.
@@CapaNoisyCapa that guy is Roy Nissany, an F2 driver. And this isn't out of panic, this is how he defends. And he's 28 or something so it's time for him to stop wasing money and a seat.
Well done for making this compilation. Hopefully it gathers some traction, particularly after the comments from Norris, and the FIA step in. Sausage kerbs need to go.
They won't because of track limits. Plus, the number of injuries is exaggerated. Most of these crashes were non-injuring (only 5 out of 18, or in more mathematical terms: 27.778% were injuries and out of that percentage, 2 were severe vertebrae fractures, or in mathematical terms, 11.11% overall, 40% of the total incidents that DID injure drivers). So unless you can't count, I don't think 27% is that severe, as it's barely a quarter of a specific selection of clips behind a biased message. Bias doesn't solve anything. And the maths objectively point to it being a non-issue.
@@tinzalix8624 It sure as shit beats being a fucking sheep promoting a false narrative in complete disregard to basic physics and the rules of Gravity. Sheep never win.
Great video. I hope the algorithm will push this. Other than good old fashioned grass, what is the solution. If you give an inch the drivers will take a mile. I races in the Battle at the Brickyard in 2019 and the fastest exit to turn 4 was 4 wheels off in the dirt. The karters that weekend (myself included) did 14 grand in landscaping and the next year they just put a wall there.
On big GP courses: sensors all the way to flag every cm of track limit. But of course thats unreasonable for smaller circuits with mainly amateur racing. No matter if its a wall, a tire barrier, gravel, grass... everything has its downsides, but i personaly think a single sausage kerb should at least be an automatic ban for lmp style and open wheeler racing.
I was there for those FR and W Series kerb incidents. W series incident was right in front of me. Been looking for footage of the crashes to see what happened. Thanks.
I feel like it’s so obvious that when you’re designing a race track, nothing you add to it should be able to launch a car 20 feet (7 meters) into the air or into other drivers cockpits. Like... that’s seems like race track design 101
0:00 Christian Bogle - Indy Lights Road America 2022 0:30 Dennis Hauger and Roy Nissany - F2 Silverstone 2022 1:03 Sofia Flörsch - F3 Macau 2018 1:33 Alex Peroni - F3 Monza 2019 1:49 Erik Jones - Nascar BANK OF AMERICA ROVAL 400 2018 2:19 Nicolas Prost and Nick Heidfeld - Formula E Beijing ePrix 2014 3:02 Matevos Isaakyan - WEC Spa 2018 3:30 Konstantin Tereshchenko - GP3 Spa 2014 3:54 Sean Gelael - F2 Monaco 2018 4:40 Sean Gelael - F2 Barcelona 2020 4:59 Igor Walilko - EuroFormula Open Spa 2016 5:09 Nikita Zlobin - EuroFormula Open Spa 2016 5:39 Scott McLaughlin - IndyCar Indianapolis Motor Speedway 2021 6:10 David Vidales and Dino Beganovic - Formula Regional European Championship Monza 2021 7:00 7:20 7:31 Correct if i'm wrong. And, i didn't found the last 3.
I think it would be better to make the kerbs more abrasive to tyres rather than have a high profile that the floor plate can launch off from. There would still be a downside to running over them but it would be a general traction performance loss rather than upsetting the car’s balance in the turn.
They could even use small devices with sharp edges to damage tyres on purpose. It would be much safer and even effective. In F1 they could use electronics to slow down the drivers out of the track limits at some points. Like, if you run wide you lose 10% of power for X seconds.
@@justinharrison9521 I don't understand why the kerb inside or outside of a corner has to be any different from on a straight. Cars must stay within track limits anyway so why are these needed?
@@justinharrison9521 I meant just a little bit. It would cause punctures only after going wide or cutting several times. Similar to an abrasive surface. It should be adjusted to damage the tyres little by little.
Every time this happens I get so angry that they’re still being used. The FIA knows the danger and treats it with eyes wide shut. Pisses me off to no end
they seem to only care about sponsors and "public image" at this point instead of, you know, the thing people actually care about which is watching a multi ton hunk of god only knows what go really fast in a circle
As glad as I am that the driver at 0:45 is ok he really put himself and others at risk by pushing the Redbull wide and onto the kerb. Without those halos we'd be seeing a whole different kind of accident.
I hope the engineers who came up with the halo are all rich af, it's an insanely impressive piece of safety equipment that is the sole reason aLOT of drivers are still with us able to race today. Those designers deserve all our praise.
Not all of these are sausage kerbs. Many are just normal kerbs, like the Christian Bogle one, and the Sophia Flörsch one. Kerbing of some sort is needed to define the limits of the racing surface and protect the edge of the track (as the track edge is a weak point and will wear out quickly if it lacks this reinforcement in a place where cars are pushing the limit). However as the two crashes I mentioned show, greater care needs to be taken in accounting for cars hitting the kerbs at unusual angles (as they will when forced off the track from time to time). In the case of Road America, where it is an entry kerb, there needs to be a more gradual transition from flat to the full kerb height. In the case of Macau, it was the fact that the kerb was being struck from the wrong side -- this could have been improved by having a raised surface inside the kerb, but obviously there was another major issue in that a car going off from the inside of the straight would miss the escape road and have no runoff, so the actual solution of moving the inside barrier to deflect cars towards the escape road was a good approach. As for sausage kerbs in many of the other crashes, these are a partial return to the huge kerbs of the olden days, but in a more targeted manner. Typically this relates to chicanes where the benefits of pushing the track limits are too great. Even at chicanes they are over-used; I think the only cases are where they are acceptably safe would be when they are at a location that is fundamentally inaccessible except at low-speed, e.g. because the configuration of barriers prevents high-speed cars turning sharply enough to reach the location. The use of them as an asphault runoff-protecting device, e.g. at Parabolica, was pretty much criminal. While it's desirable to have "natural enforcement" of track limits (i.e. where leaving the racing surface slows you down or makes you crash) rather than "enforcement by penalties", safety can't be compromised to nearly that extent.
I find it interesting that all these big international categories don't just do what the Supercars do here in Australia: Put sensors in the car and track to detect a corner cut. They get caught out and penalised because of those sensors on tracks like Adelaide and Gold Coast all the time, so what's stopping other countries and categories from doing it?
The funny thing about the 2nd one is that after launching into air, the red bull car hits the car that caused it to jump by not leaving enough space to stay on the track.
Holy!! WTF?!? I was a few seats down at the accident on 7:00 . It was a Formula W race on Saturday evening after the F1 Qualies for the US Gran Prix here in COTA in Austin, TX turn 15. Watching the first part of the video reminded me exactly of this incident. Wasn't expecting to watch it again. 😳
Club raced, saw a fellow racer killed by a curb, never raced that track again. They're a curse plain and simple. Penalties for inappropriate crossing is sufficient and easily patrolled via camera, no need to risk racer's lives. Great video graphically illustrating the point.
Great video. It's been repeatedly proven these types of track limit devices actually injure drivers. The seemingly simply accidents where the cars just hopped up and then slammed down have broken drivers backs. Peronis crash should have gotten all these kerbs removed. He was very blessed to not die considering the energy forces it took to send that car in the air like a frisbee.
Even us nascar folks with our limited experience of sausage curbs know already these things are just ramps Weird you included the turn 6 incident for xfinity but not for cup when 2-3 cars also went airborne in cup
I saw the actual race. He did hit the end of the kerb, although it was not a sausage kerb. The fact that it was over a crest combined with just a little hop of the front end was just enough to achieve liftoff
You could add Rubens Barrichello's 1994 Imola accident, kerbs lifted his car over the gravel trap and mostly over the tyre-barrier, hefty impact in the catch fence. Followed up by track marshalls harshly flipping over his car, testing if his neck survives further trauma (no he would not have suffocated within seconds otherwise...). But Rubens survived, so no *real* problem, go on 28 years and introduce even steeper kerbs...
The only reason why this accursed sausage curbs exists is to ensure track limits in cicrcuits with tarmac run off areas. When race tracks had grass or gravel theres was no need for these nefarious death traps.
I get sausage curbs purpose from a "track limit" perspective. But speaking from a safety perspective, aren't there penalties for track limits in place? I don't feel sausage curbs necessary in today's racing with the way the cars are built.
I thought this was going to be one of those sim racing video where you add litteral jumps for comedic effect... Instead i got what felt like a diss track to the FIA 😂
Yes, let's build actual launching ramps on tracks and see what happens. I'm sure no one will get hurt.
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FIA: We created it to stop drivers from disrespect track limits
Reality: *They created mini versions of every single turbo ramp ever in Mario Kart or Crash Turbo Fueled*
They created Asphalt 8 tracks instead
Yet they will still invalidate your lap if youre 1 tyre on the white line. They want synchronized swimmers not drivers
FIA: We have rumble strips to warn drivers of the track limits, so that they don't get a penalty!
Also FIA: We're going to implement harder track limit indicators that often launch drivers 50 feet into the air if they even thing about going off track limits.
Who thought of this? Not only are literal speed bumps on racetracks a bad idea, but even worse because the cars who are going to hit those at 100mph are most likely fragile and low racecars with stiff suspensions. If you want to prevent corner cutting, give penalties or just put some grass where you don't want cars to go.
Couldnt agree more. Invest in cameras and people to watch the camera, give out penalties, grid places for situations where you missed a obvious penalty for future races.....literally anything but putting a fucking bump on a track where cars are racing.....It just doesnt make sense at all. So friggen dangerous and these are cars that, once a bit of air gets beneath them, theyll fly up and put people in the stands, safety personell who might be track side, and the drivers at risk of a flying tonne hurling at them uncontrolably.
@@Amm17ar you dont even need cameras. I think its motogp that are using sensors (and probably many more do it by now). They can determine a track limit violation far more precise then any camera and everytime a rider gets flagged by the system the stewards just check the footage to see if it was cutting a corner or something like avoiding a crash etc.
Its just ridiculous that in the year 2022 those stupid curbs are still a thing.
Because it's a better race who gives af about the drivers. 🤷🏾♂️
@@shmoejoedesy9449 The same people who don't give a shit about knobheads like you.
Yeah, these bumps are by far the worst thing on track, irl and games the sausage kurb makes the corner more boring, tighter and makes you go slower, they can ruin ur race if u turn slightly early and its hard to re correct yourself once you do, not only do they make crashes more frequent and dangerous, it generally makes racing more boring, most the time they aren't even put in the proper place and seem to be also preventing people from putting 2 wheels on the inside curb, which last time I checked was legal
When did a sausage curb ever help someone in a crash? Ive only seen them make crashes 5 times worse than they have to be.
Literally never. They're a great way of saying "don't cut this corner or you and your car will surely be destroyed" so it's just a stupid way of trying to stop corner cutting but all it does is when someone accidentally cuts the corner (to avoid cars, breaks failed etc.) they get launched to the air with no control, mostly landing back ti the track with a destroyed car and many other fast oncoming traffic to avoid them.
It's so stupid.
@@egeo.9645 they're a great way of saying "cut the corner and you die"
I don't know but at least half of these crashes would be serious with or without sausage kerbs.
Nissany and Hauger for instance, without that kerb Hauger would have t-boned Nissany. Is that any better?
@@100benny Hauger managed brake quite a bit before contact and the cars are already made to crunkle the energy through the entire car. If the Halo would’ve failed (Not saying they will, but look at Zhou’s rolling bar breaking off in Britain so never say never) the lad would’ve been decapitated, the other w/o being indeed a t-bone, but a low intensity t-bone.
@@100benny or he can just not run people off the track. theres always that option.
Lando Norris is calling to ban those kerbs
and he is right, i mean, they should be racing, not flying
as wirtual once said, time spent flying is time spent not accelerating.
nor steering. this ain't no 90s arcade.
It’s so true. When cars get airborne things get much more dangerous. We cannot seriously condone this danger just as a deterrent to track limits.
@@gibospartan6185 los coches de este año dependen mucho del efecto suelo, así que no muy conveniente digamos tener eso en la pista con coches que depende de agarre del suelo
@@gibospartan6185 Incorrect, when a car goes airborne, it is unable to maintain speed due to the high levels of drag it experiences in the air compared to the drag on the ground, note how Dumbreck's CLR only flew a few feet after a blow over before landing in the trees just before the second kink, when Rockenfeller's R18 remained on the ground, it skated further along the track past the second kink because most of the energy and momentum was preserved due to the lower centre of gravity and the longer period it spent on the ground.
@@DR3ADER1 Yes but that's not the point. Barriers at circuits are not designed to handle flying cars. Flying cars can avoid barriers designed to absorb energy like tyre walls and tecpro barriers.
See: 2018 F3 Macau Race (Sophia Flörsch)
It also runs the risk of going over or destroying catch fencing which can put marshals and spectators at risk.
See: 2022 Indy Lights Road America Race (Christian Bogle)
2018 F3 Macau Race (Sophia Flörsch)
2019 F3 Monza Race (Alexander Peroni)
In addition, cars are not designed to go airborne and open wheel cars have drivers sitting almost on the car's floor with no protection for hard landings resulting in fractured vertebrae for the below:
2020 F2 Spain Race (Sean Gelael)
2021 W Series COTA Race (Abbie Eaton)
2021 F4 COTA Race (Christian Weir)
Indeed flying cars will slow down aerodynamically due to drag but that does not help if the car crashes shortly after becoming airborne. It doesn't help if the car lands somewhere unsafe (Like over a catch fence where it can injure marshals, photographers, etc). And it doesn't help if the car lands at a bad angle or on a bump.
Flying cars throws a lot of variables into the mix which simply cannot be controlled safely unlike most crashes.
Not even a week later and there’s already another serious one to add to this. These things need to go
What one?
Oh yea nvm wec at monza
@@crazycars81 yeah it’s crazy how a door got ripped off it’s hinges just by hitting the violent sausage kerb
They have always been dangerous. Roland Ratzenberger and Rubens Barichello hit them at Imola and one died while the other nearly died.
There were no sausage kerbs at that time so idk what u are talking about
FIA: ground affect is too dangerous it could send cars flying
Also FIA: let’s add curbs that launch cars into the air
The ground effects are the inverse of lift, kerbs prevent the cars from pinballing on the ground or worse, going to a dead stop on a particularly stiff wall. Sudden dead stops in crashes are WORSE than rollovers because the inertia is greater.
@@DR3ADER1 When you're in the air, you cannot slow down and have no control, leaving you to slam into the wall at the speed that you've left the ground with. That is why sausage kerbs and poorly designed kerbs shouldn't be in racing at all, because they will eventually lead to a sudden stop into the walls in the air instead of on the ground, which is objectively worse.
@@nallid7357 Incorrect. When you're airborne, you need thrust to gain and maintain speed unless you're very high in the sky(as in, plane height, several thousand meters in the air). All of that forward momentum is countered by air resistance on all sides of the car, and you immediately slow down and are brought back onto the ground. Because cars need a fulcrum to gain speed, such as the ground.
You generate a ton of drag in the air, drag has a negative effect on your momentum and you land straight back down. Look at most blowovers in NASCAR, where the car in the air is passed by the entire pack, as it loses all of its speed and momentum.
You need to pay attention more in physics class, and learn more about how powerful the air is at high speeds, especially in regards to drag, air resistance and lift.
It's funny how many people ignore such factors to reinforce their narratives. You don't gain speed in the air without thrust and propulsion in any vehicle that's not a flying vehicle. That's basic physics 101.
@@DR3ADER1 The tyres sliding on the ground are doing better at braking than them being airborne. Maybe you should take some
@@DR3ADER1 You don't accelerate mid-crash. Fucking gravel is there, you don't need open-wheel racing tacks with ramps
The second clip with Dennis is wild. Without the halo that would have been one of the most brutal deaths in motorsport. Safety has luckily come a long way (except the SOS itches obviously).
Jules bianchi but in plain sight on slow mo...
Sausages
The Halo didn't save Dennis, it was the headrest. Pay attention to the replay cameras next time.
roy nissany needs a permanent ban from motosport that guy is super clumsy
Same day as Zhou's silverstone accident mind you
"Oops, I've sent it in a bit too hard and understeered off the track"
FIA: "You're going to space, buddy"
@Golden Auto ironic because interlagos doesn't have any sausage kerbs
“Looks like we’ll launch you into the shadow realm there, Jimbo”
FIA: Heauston we have lift off.
@@chukowiley3823 you were talking to me?
@@jimbo_bomberino8606 lmao
The crash of Sophia Flörsch in Macau is still one of the craziest crashes I have ever seen, the fact that she got away with „only“ some fractures is unbelievable
Yeesh. These things have got to go. You'd think people would've gotten the hint after Sophia Floersch's launch at Macau, but apparently not. Also, it's one thing to launch lightweight open-wheel formula cars, but when the curbs are even launching the absolute bricks that are used in NASCAR, that's a major problem.
This is very true.
When these kerbs are launching 3600+ lb racecars, a small open-cockpit car that weighs not even half of that will result in some serious issues as we've seen thus far.
Yep and it's even worse placing them on the outside of high speed corners.
I won't say my country is completely clean in regards to sausage kerbs, but most, if not all permanent tracks have no sausage kerbs as far as I'm aware. Some street circuits do (Surfers Paradise, maybe Adelaide), but they're not on the outside of high speed corners.
@@callummclachlan4771 Oh, I've got no room to talk, as my home track is not only featured in the video, but it's one of the ones launching NASCAR competitors. (IMS). That said, those weren't true sausage kerbs, but close enough. I will cut them a little slack in that that was the first time NASCAR ran on the road course at Indy; 1st time you run any series at any track, there's going to be issues of some sort.
she launched off the car she hit?
@@mazda_rt24-p Both first she got launched by the kurb and then by the car as well making her go even higher over the barrier. Absolute miracle no one got killed
Kvyat said it best when he called the herbs in Monaco “yellow trampolines”.
Wonder what 'herbs' he was smoking at the time?
who had the idea to put a sausage kerb on the fast chicane?
@@ironboogsie1187 and a literal flat out corner like eau rouge
FIA: “We need ways to stop corner cutting.”
“How about we put ramps on the track that will launch the cars in the air and break their spine on impact when they corner cut.”
FIA: “PERFECT!”
I believe NASCAR actually removed the curbs at the IMS road course for the 2022 Cup Series race after all the problems they caused in 2021, which I have to give them credit for, and it made the 2022 race infinitely better.
You know it's bad when not even NASCAR wants them.
It’s sad that the FIA is so bad that even NASCAR is being smarter than them.
They actually removed it in the middle of the 2021 race because it was so dangerous
@@the_Jdawg88 I remember they kept having to red-flag the race because cars kept wrecking and destroying the curb until they eventually just threw their hands up and said "screw it, we're getting rid of it".
@@harrisongrant8558 I work in the nascar media industry and trust me we were going crazy lmao
I figured it was just the right turn that threw him off XD
4:15 GOATifi making the fastest lap of the race 🐐
🐐🐐🐐
💪🐐
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I know for certain that Abbie Eaton is fully committed to eliminating sausage kerbs after her incident. She highlighted one in GT racing on her own social media a few days ago...
Was that the Monza Crash?
@@marvinlinnarz5856 Yeah
Understandably too, it broke her back and she was only just able to race in W Series this year
Who
@@vyepez500 A W series driver who broke her back at COTA a couple years back thanks to a sausage kerb
Strange coincidence that this was recommended to me after that Aston got absolutely launched at Monza 2022 WEC race by a sausage kerb.
By "strange coincidence" are you referring to the algorithm that identifies trending videos to recommend?
Just days after this was posted, there was another scary crash in the WEC at Monza. Missed braking point, went over a sausage kerb and rolled, tearing the door off.
Without the kerb it would have been just a trip to the run-off.
Yeah it was absurd, there should be gravel at the Roggia corner
I swear we are waiting for a fatal accident, so far we’ve seen:
A female driver fly into a marshal stand, wounding a few marshals and fracturing her back.
We’ve seen a lad almost got his head chopped of.
We’ve seen another lad almost have his head squished between his car and the barrier.
We’ve seen a lad almost die in the first season of a new race-class.
We’ve seen an LMP2 car fly.
We’ve had a female driver break two vertebrae.
We’ve had a lad lose a race because a kerb thought “hurdur funne yeet”.
We’ve seen a lad almost do an Anthoine Hubert…
We’ve seen an American pull an insane stunt.
We’ve seen teammates almost kill each other.
We’ve seen NASCARs do some of the biggest crashes seen on road-circuits.
We’ve seen a WEC lad flip hugely. (Not included in video)
We’ve seen too many incidents, they need to be removed.
Apparently the f.i.a. is more concerned with underwear and nose rings than protecting drivers from launching off to life threatening accodents
This comment needs to pinned
@@dickyStardust1921 Thank you
@@captaintoyota3171 yeah..
Seeing Nissani getting blitzed by his own poor racing, just amazing
So true. One day he'll pay his recklessness hard and I don't wanna be there to see it
@@astrovisionbroadcastingunion Lets just hope he wont injure anybody else
Calling it “racing” would be polite… more like using his car as a weapon…
@@jez_77 I sure hope so too. If he was to injure himself (which will happen at some point given how reckless he is), it's his problem. But seeing him injuring other drivers which do have some talent unlike him is not right whatsoever
@@astrovisionbroadcastingunion FIA watching his driving should ban him immediately. Id rather painfully watch "drivers" like Deledda who struggles to set 107% but at least is not a moving danger to everyone else. FIA definitely became too soft in terms of not letting certain drivers to race even if they should ban them. Basically 107% rule is not in use anymore but is far less an issue than giving permission to race to the individuals like Nissany or Caldwell
The fact that Sophia Floersch is even alive after an accident like that is insane
The fact that these type of kerbs cause problems in so many different series with different spec cars should be enough for organisations like the FIA to rule them out.
5:19 Having those kerbs at Eau Rouge/Radillion, especially at the exit, is absolute insanity to me
5:54 Now thats what you call a 'flying overtake'
If I was a steward I would say that this pass is legit due to awesomeness.
Someone thought: "You know what F1 needs to make it even more exciting? Big air!"
this could actually be cool if the cars and drivers could take it without any damage
The problem is that these kerb doesn't pose a problem for F1 because F1 car have insane downforce.
So they prolly think that because F1 cars are fine then other series are absolutely fine as well
@@kami_narisama F1 cars aren't fine, though. There were two incidents at the Silverstone GP where cars hit sausage kerbs and took flight, which would have resulted in two deaths without the 'halo'.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227sorry, Silverstone? Are you referring to Zhou's flip? Because that one isn't because of sausage kerb.
The other i can recall is on F2, not F1
@@kami_narisama my mistake.
You know it's bad when even the NASCAR commentators don't like them.
At least for both the Charlotte roval and Indy road course nascar races the kerbs got removed before the race or mid race after they proved to be dangerous. Would be good to see other tracks do that.
The officials need to think about which is really more important. People cutting the track and gaining an advantage, or being involved in a potentially life threatening accident. I don't really think the sausage curb is worth it. It creates more problems than it fixes.
Oil money and entertainment over safety
The elites loves cars crashing each other. All they can do for safety is just on the car aspect only
I mean cant They just enforce track limits? I mean the track is the track and where the kerbs are isnt, just penalize people for overstepping
Well, the maths from the video which I just did proves that the officials already know that track limits are more favourable, as only 27.778% of the clips shown contained injuries, and a further 40% of THOSE incidents had severe vertebrae fractures. The maths never lie. Even in this biased video.
@@DR3ADER1 Severe injuries that didn't need to happen because the damn sausage curb didn't need to be there.
JFC, Why is every dumb comment on this video from you?
Alex Peroni at Monza, WEC backflip and others at Spa’s radillion (hope I spelled that correctly) and eau rouge aren’t sausage curb accidents, but… that doesn’t take away from the premise of this video and I think you did a really good job. Others should subscribe. Sausage curbs be gone.
Also I think it’s funny how Sean Galael is in almost every formula car sausage curb crash on this video lol
1:26
That crash is so brutal im surprised everyone survived that.
I dont think she walked away, she injured her back
@@miguelelgueta5830 Do you know what race this was in :)
@@oliver-gm that's Sophia Floersch, in the Macau grand prix... She injured her back and neck badly and had to be operated
@@fidan2fast ah okay thanks very much
Technically she didnt "walk away" from it... But i mean, just the fact she still alive is unbelievable. Nevertheless making a full recovery and comeback to racing.
It shows how much luck and safety technology you need to cancel out a shit invention like the sausage kerb.
0:31 dang lol that’s some instant karma. Hits/runs/pushes the guy off track, takes the corner like normal, then gets the t-bar t-boned by the same guy he forced off!
I wouldn't refer to a crash which had the potential for death "karma". Makes you really thankful they added the halo though.
@@RobertBarton86 certainly karma is a poor word to describe it. i am glad both drivers are ok. that being said, my momma always told me, if you play shitty games youre gonna win shitty prizes. pretty similar to karma but a life threatening crash is obviously never "deserved."
@@RobertBarton86 Halo is the fix for these ramps.
@@RobertBarton86 He didn't die though, so "karma" is perfectly acceptable. He absolutely got immediate payback for his idiocy
1:48 that barrier was moved back later in the weekend and in 2019 the chicane was tightened with the removal of sausage kerbs that were in the final turn and on the exit
That full-flight crash into the media stand at the F3 in Macau in 2018 was horrendous. I still wince when I see it hit the stand especially after hearing of the many injuries sustained by photographers and the driver.
One more for the list from today's Monza 6 hours.
For anyone wondering, here's the TF Sport Aston Martin launching after hitting a sausage kerb at speed. ruclips.net/video/F550jL4zgXc/видео.html
2:31 he literally just drove into his side
Yeah, other driver deserves a race ban there....that was some of the most egregious blocking I've seen since Jerez '97
he deserves to get banned
It wasn't intentional since he was probably just taking the racing line and not expecting the other guy to dive bomb him. Very negligent especially for a professional but not blocking
Who was that blind man anyway that couldn't check his mirror?
@@HaloDude557 no 100% blocking. He knew he was there, guy was checking his mirrors the whole time, as soon as he dived he slammed into him.
Whilst I appreciate both your effort and point about crappy sausage kerbs, it might be more transparent to change your video title than add a pinned caveat disclaimer addressing its inaccuracy.
Fair point. I have adjusted the title accordingly. Thank you, good sir.
@@utters4515 Respect, my friend. We both agree that sausage kerbs are dangerous, and you proved your point admirably with your vid 👍
@@stuartmiller7419 this is the most civil conversation i have ever seen on youtube
@@jjearrape198 it really is quite refreshing to see such an exchange.
what was the former title `?
I forgot Heidfeld's FE crash was off a sausage curb. This has been happening for eight years at least and nobody seriously thought to fix this until now.
And it was safer than a dead stop, as most of that energy was lost in the air.
@@DR3ADER1 You sound like the fools who used to argue that that you're better off not wearing a seat belt so that you can be thrown clear in a crash instead of trapped in the car
So glad this kind of videos are getting renewed visibility after Silverstone week end, this madness needs to stop before we have another pilot injured or worse
Someone must've laughed their socks off thinking this up:
"Let's make a ramp to violently launch high velocity vehicles into the air and over any barriers - perhaps even into spectators areas!!! LOL!! 🤣🤘🤣🤘🤣🤘🤣"
If sausage kerbs launch them into the air then it's completely their fault for hitting it lmao skill issue (this is a joke)
It adds great excitement for that boring open wheel crap LOL... I vote for proper fk off launching ramps 6ft high, that'll do it.
0:50 best karma ever i have seen
would’ve been the worst youve ever seen if the halo didn’t exist
Loss of control, unsafe rejoin (the worst of all), weaving at the track out of panic... The guy did it all in about 2 seconds. Like already said, if not for the halo it would be a mess, literally.
@@CapaNoisyCapa that guy is Roy Nissany, an F2 driver. And this isn't out of panic, this is how he defends. And he's 28 or something so it's time for him to stop wasing money and a seat.
@@RottenWeeblet And endangering everybody around him
Well done for making this compilation. Hopefully it gathers some traction, particularly after the comments from Norris, and the FIA step in. Sausage kerbs need to go.
They won't because of track limits. Plus, the number of injuries is exaggerated. Most of these crashes were non-injuring (only 5 out of 18, or in more mathematical terms: 27.778% were injuries and out of that percentage, 2 were severe vertebrae fractures, or in mathematical terms, 11.11% overall, 40% of the total incidents that DID injure drivers). So unless you can't count, I don't think 27% is that severe, as it's barely a quarter of a specific selection of clips behind a biased message.
Bias doesn't solve anything. And the maths objectively point to it being a non-issue.
@@DR3ADER1 I can say I have never seen someone simp for an inanimate object as much as you have in this comments section sir, props to you.
@@tinzalix8624 It sure as shit beats being a fucking sheep promoting a false narrative in complete disregard to basic physics and the rules of Gravity. Sheep never win.
6:20 Absolutely miraculous evasion by the rest of the grid.
Props even to Angeli. Getting out of the way was the most important thing, even if he slowly trundles into the barriers.
Great video. I hope the algorithm will push this. Other than good old fashioned grass, what is the solution. If you give an inch the drivers will take a mile. I races in the Battle at the Brickyard in 2019 and the fastest exit to turn 4 was 4 wheels off in the dirt. The karters that weekend (myself included) did 14 grand in landscaping and the next year they just put a wall there.
On big GP courses: sensors all the way to flag every cm of track limit.
But of course thats unreasonable for smaller circuits with mainly amateur racing.
No matter if its a wall, a tire barrier, gravel, grass... everything has its downsides, but i personaly think a single sausage kerb should at least be an automatic ban for lmp style and open wheeler racing.
@@emojack How about spike strips? :)
I was there for those FR and W Series kerb incidents. W series incident was right in front of me. Been looking for footage of the crashes to see what happened. Thanks.
"if I wanted to fly, I would have become an airline pilot!" - Walter Rohl.
I feel like it’s so obvious that when you’re designing a race track, nothing you add to it should be able to launch a car 20 feet (7 meters) into the air or into other drivers cockpits. Like... that’s seems like race track design 101
0:00 Christian Bogle - Indy Lights Road America 2022
0:30 Dennis Hauger and Roy Nissany - F2 Silverstone 2022
1:03 Sofia Flörsch - F3 Macau 2018
1:33 Alex Peroni - F3 Monza 2019
1:49 Erik Jones - Nascar BANK OF AMERICA ROVAL 400 2018
2:19 Nicolas Prost and Nick Heidfeld - Formula E Beijing ePrix 2014
3:02 Matevos Isaakyan - WEC Spa 2018
3:30 Konstantin Tereshchenko - GP3 Spa 2014
3:54 Sean Gelael - F2 Monaco 2018
4:40 Sean Gelael - F2 Barcelona 2020
4:59 Igor Walilko - EuroFormula Open Spa 2016
5:09 Nikita Zlobin - EuroFormula Open Spa 2016
5:39 Scott McLaughlin - IndyCar Indianapolis Motor Speedway 2021
6:10 David Vidales and Dino Beganovic - Formula Regional European Championship Monza 2021
7:00
7:20
7:31
Correct if i'm wrong.
And, i didn't found the last 3.
7:00 was abbie eaton
@@mEmEzMaN... Thx 🙂
7:31 Kris Wright
I think it would be better to make the kerbs more abrasive to tyres rather than have a high profile that the floor plate can launch off from. There would still be a downside to running over them but it would be a general traction performance loss rather than upsetting the car’s balance in the turn.
They could even use small devices with sharp edges to damage tyres on purpose.
It would be much safer and even effective.
In F1 they could use electronics to slow down the drivers out of the track limits at some points. Like, if you run wide you lose 10% of power for X seconds.
I think that would cause punctures which might be exciting but not exactly safe.
@@justinharrison9521 I don't understand why the kerb inside or outside of a corner has to be any different from on a straight. Cars must stay within track limits anyway so why are these needed?
@@justinharrison9521
I meant just a little bit. It would cause punctures only after going wide or cutting several times. Similar to an abrasive surface.
It should be adjusted to damage the tyres little by little.
@@justinharrison9521 any mechanism that punishes mistakes by removing adhesion can be dangerous
02:23 he should be banned from racing. What kind of a defence is that?
I believe that's Formula E, last time I checked all the names were people who had failed Formula 1 so... 😂😂😂😂😂
I call it the sim racer special
@@Seb_Semos tbf formula e has barely any former f1 drivers anymore and it's WAY better racing than f1. You should give the new season a watch
@@LudicrousBacon Better racing than F1 in Formula E? Is this a joke? Yeah, it's entertaining but Formula 1 is just better.
@@cheatergt4020 all serious mate. Better racing tenfold
I got to Sean Gelael's crash and all I heard was "BRUH!"
BRRUUUHHH
Yes. Finally found another Bruh comment
Yes. Finally found another Bruh comment
Every time this happens I get so angry that they’re still being used. The FIA knows the danger and treats it with eyes wide shut. Pisses me off to no end
they seem to only care about sponsors and "public image" at this point instead of, you know, the thing people actually care about which is watching a multi ton hunk of god only knows what go really fast in a circle
As glad as I am that the driver at 0:45 is ok he really put himself and others at risk by pushing the Redbull wide and onto the kerb. Without those halos we'd be seeing a whole different kind of accident.
Nissany. He's a dangerous driver.
That's Roy Nissany for you. Made a mistake and wanted to punish another driver for it
Time and time again, the FIA refuses to remove these hazards. Ridiculous
2:20 the yellow car needs their super license revoked.
I hope the engineers who came up with the halo are all rich af, it's an insanely impressive piece of safety equipment that is the sole reason aLOT of drivers are still with us able to race today. Those designers deserve all our praise.
"We'll punish every driver who takes a short cut by endangering them"
- FIA probably -
What a joke of an organization
The "When you drink never drive" sign is on par with the "Speed is beautiful" sign from Watkins Glen in the Cup series a number of years ago
And the "Power is nothing without control" Pirelli signs at Bahrain
Damn! Sausage curbs are way more dangerous than I thought
When you see that Sophia Flörsch crash its incredible she not only managed to survive it... But also she continues to race.
1:58 Americans just can’t be normal, and have to call the sausage kerbs “turtles”
Textbook performance of that catch fence in the first clip - a nice controlled deceleration. Very nice.
0:58 => so about the halo, I guess we can say it was a good idea.
Not all of these are sausage kerbs. Many are just normal kerbs, like the Christian Bogle one, and the Sophia Flörsch one.
Kerbing of some sort is needed to define the limits of the racing surface and protect the edge of the track (as the track edge is a weak point and will wear out quickly if it lacks this reinforcement in a place where cars are pushing the limit).
However as the two crashes I mentioned show, greater care needs to be taken in accounting for cars hitting the kerbs at unusual angles (as they will when forced off the track from time to time). In the case of Road America, where it is an entry kerb, there needs to be a more gradual transition from flat to the full kerb height. In the case of Macau, it was the fact that the kerb was being struck from the wrong side -- this could have been improved by having a raised surface inside the kerb, but obviously there was another major issue in that a car going off from the inside of the straight would miss the escape road and have no runoff, so the actual solution of moving the inside barrier to deflect cars towards the escape road was a good approach.
As for sausage kerbs in many of the other crashes, these are a partial return to the huge kerbs of the olden days, but in a more targeted manner. Typically this relates to chicanes where the benefits of pushing the track limits are too great. Even at chicanes they are over-used; I think the only cases are where they are acceptably safe would be when they are at a location that is fundamentally inaccessible except at low-speed, e.g. because the configuration of barriers prevents high-speed cars turning sharply enough to reach the location.
The use of them as an asphault runoff-protecting device, e.g. at Parabolica, was pretty much criminal. While it's desirable to have "natural enforcement" of track limits (i.e. where leaving the racing surface slows you down or makes you crash) rather than "enforcement by penalties", safety can't be compromised to nearly that extent.
Fully agree with you here.
4:17 a certified bruhhhhhh moment
3:25 to think they actually put sausage kerbs right there 💀(in the past)
sausage kerbs need to be banned from motorsports
I find it interesting that all these big international categories don't just do what the Supercars do here in Australia: Put sensors in the car and track to detect a corner cut. They get caught out and penalised because of those sensors on tracks like Adelaide and Gold Coast all the time, so what's stopping other countries and categories from doing it?
The funny thing about the 2nd one is that after launching into air, the red bull car hits the car that caused it to jump by not leaving enough space to stay on the track.
Everyone: sausage kerbs
Americans: we got some god damn turtles on the track
Every race director and track officials should watch this and rethink what safety means.
Holy!! WTF?!? I was a few seats down at the accident on 7:00 . It was a Formula W race on Saturday evening after the F1 Qualies for the US Gran Prix here in COTA in Austin, TX turn 15. Watching the first part of the video reminded me exactly of this incident. Wasn't expecting to watch it again. 😳
2:24 what the hell was that guy thinking?
This isn’t a public lobby on the f1 games!
After 6 hours of Monza last year and NASCAR at the Indy Roval in 21, it’s safe to say this isn’t just an open wheel problem
2:26 did the Renault guy just turn straight into the other?
It looks like he just deliberately crashed into them
Yes but to block not to crash, it's just that he blocked badly
He had a reaction time of a person woken from a coma or something
What's pretty interesting is that it's Alain Prost son
Club raced, saw a fellow racer killed by a curb, never raced that track again. They're a curse plain and simple. Penalties for inappropriate crossing is sufficient and easily patrolled via camera, no need to risk racer's lives. Great video graphically illustrating the point.
it needs to just be paint insetad of something that's raised up off the track.
Even safety cars are being launched off these sausage kerbs, like that aston suv at the British gran prix on two wheels
What the heck?? I’m not used to seeing NASCAR-level carnage in road-course scenarios like these.
#1:33 "when you drive never drink" lol
Great video.
It's been repeatedly proven these types of track limit devices actually injure drivers.
The seemingly simply accidents where the cars just hopped up and then slammed down have broken drivers backs.
Peronis crash should have gotten all these kerbs removed.
He was very blessed to not die considering the energy forces it took to send that car in the air like a frisbee.
Even us nascar folks with our limited experience of sausage curbs know already these things are just ramps
Weird you included the turn 6 incident for xfinity but not for cup when 2-3 cars also went airborne in cup
0:44 I love how the Red Bull hits the same car that previously cuts and blocks him
3:28 Someone correct me if im wrong, but that looks more like a blowover than a Sausage kerb strike
I saw the actual race. He did hit the end of the kerb, although it was not a sausage kerb. The fact that it was over a crest combined with just a little hop of the front end was just enough to achieve liftoff
On the Indy car clip I saw a sponsor called car shop and at first I read it as cars hop while the video is about cars flying
2:25 does anyone know what the punishment was for literally ramming another driver and nearly killing him
Nico Prost was handed a 10-place grid penalty for the next round.
@@muscless89 I'm pretty sure that was Sebastian Schumacher but ok
@@glophey801 Nico Prost is Alain Prost's son, mate.
@@muscless89 Lmao I thought you were joking but yeah he is
@@muscless89 should have been straight up banned from the following race.
You could add Rubens Barrichello's 1994 Imola accident, kerbs lifted his car over the gravel trap and mostly over the tyre-barrier, hefty impact in the catch fence. Followed up by track marshalls harshly flipping over his car, testing if his neck survives further trauma (no he would not have suffocated within seconds otherwise...).
But Rubens survived, so no *real* problem, go on 28 years and introduce even steeper kerbs...
3:33 WOAH
That Sophia Floersch is one of the craziest crashes ever.
0:00 - not a sausage kerb
3:02 - not a sausage kerb
4:59 - not a sausage kerb
5:39 - not a sausage kerb
Alot more than that aren't, half the tracks shown don't have sausage kerbs.
The two at spa are sausage curbs (sorta). The white stripes used to be elevated higher than the tarmac. Effectively being a mini sausage curb.
Yes, those were not a sausage kerb and it did that… sausage kerb is a lot worse.
Bruh read the description
@@jamesshanks5599 it's irrelevant. The title claims these are sausage kerbs.
the genius idea of making kerbs that are halfway the size of the cars (some at least) which are so low and basically glued to the ground
4:05 as always goatifi
Great video. It is ridiculous how much they improve the cars safety, but at the same time they put these speed bumps at most of the tracks
Woah! That third crash, I wanna know more. Did the driver survive?
The driver was Sophia Flörsch and thankfully she did survive. This year I believe she is competing in the European Le Mans Series.
@@utters4515 oh, thank you.
@@utters4515 she must be learn how can u turn to track when you went out
@@lastmortpudge Can you speak english please?
@@diego090bw no i can't , cuz i am drunk
The only reason why this accursed sausage curbs exists is to ensure track limits in cicrcuits with tarmac run off areas. When race tracks had grass or gravel theres was no need for these nefarious death traps.
2:27 I hope the guy got disqualified for that move.
IIRC he got a 10 place grid penalty. That’s it.
@@acid1910 10 place grid penalty is not enough, my helmet would meet his head for that move, attempting to hurt me in such a way.
@@Drnken229 It was so obviously deliberate as well. Would’ve disqualified him for the race, if not longer. Same as F1 in Silverstone 2021.
@@acid1910 Yea
That F3 Macau one is still scary to see
1:15 when was that??
Its inevitable that they will be removed someday. Whether it will take a death before changes are made is another question
I get sausage curbs purpose from a "track limit" perspective. But speaking from a safety perspective, aren't there penalties for track limits in place? I don't feel sausage curbs necessary in today's racing with the way the cars are built.
I thought this was going to be one of those sim racing video where you add litteral jumps for comedic effect...
Instead i got what felt like a diss track to the FIA 😂
nah, that's gonna be the next video 🤣
1:04 sport?
Formula 3
@@itzmespencer Thank you.
Great video and thanks for identifying this as a recurring problem that needs instant attention !