The only reason he's playing grappler now is because you can do SPD with one button, and that's textbook Justin Wong. This man lives to trivialize fighting games and piss off his opponents.
Zangief had to be the only character that after a few body slams and won matches, you cant help but repeat everything he says to your opponent. it's just so much fun!!!
This was so damn funny and entertaining! Historically I really only play MK, but I've been branching out into other fighting games, and this game has just taken me away. Been loving the content man, great video!
This was probably one of my favorite videos you have released recently, honestly felt like you were reacting more fluently with this modern control zangief then you do with Chun. Feel like you could make a series from bronze to master off of this idea alone because of all of the opportunities for good clips and edits in this kind of gameplay. Thanks for the content legend keep it up
I think what I love most about this is that you lose so many of Gief's options by playing in Modern....but you *gain* Fear Factor, which is almost worth every lost normal and combo option.
I can understand why people asking to divide M and C Reaching the top in the rank its easy, but even im not a pro player, something inside me are saying to play C lol
As a Gief main since SF4, I love this. It makes Wiff punishing so much more viable. Before it you'd have to rely heavily on hard reads and wiff punishing into spd or super was generally avoided unless you had godly reactions and execution.
I don't even Play this Game, as my Computer Sucks, but damn. I do like this "Modern Controls" that just popped up on my Recommendations. Soo many Fighting Games I play [Not a Lot] have some very Difficulty Control & Mechanics that take a while to get used to... In fact, sometimes, *I even use an Macro on Autohotkey just to do an Specific Move, such as an "Command Grab" or "Super" early on to be able to Enjoy the Character Fully*[I don't have that Much Time to be Playing and Mastering an Game]. Being able to Play the Game without Messing your Inputs Half of the Time while you are a Beginner would make an Huge Difference for me. If my Computer could Run this Game, I would really Consider Playing it now, as a Big Reason I totally avoid Street Fighter Games is because they kind of seems to be too Hard to Join in and get used to the "Seemingly" Difficulty Inputs😭
Modern Gief is certainly good but if you're interested, don't be too afraid of trying Classic Gief. This game is PRETTY GENEROUS with the SPD input. You can only do a half circle and then inmediately up and it'll count. If you want to do the Lvl 3 after a DI you have more than enough time to input this two times and land it amazingly.
You'd be surprised, there's a lot of ways to buffer the 720. Dashing, his forward knee move, his head butt, drive rush, empty jumping, I've even seen a dude get me by baiting parry and inputting 720 during the negative frames. Only thing stopping you from playing zangief is patience, you need a lot of patience.
@@nicholaskline7976 I think the main difference here is that in Modern, you don't have to do *any* of that for inputting 720 for the lvl 3. When you play against a Classic Zangief there are certain tells where you know whether he can do lvl 3 or not, but in Modern, Zangief can basically do it any time even while just standing, making it quite a lot stronger for reacting / footsies. And if you need the extra damage you can still do 720 / 360 for situations like punishing after DI.
@@Medivh73 I just told you the easiest way, half circul and then up. Doesn't have to be a full 720. With moves like DI or the knee it's pretty easy, I promise.
Another wonderful episode of the Grappler Tsundere Justin series. As always looking "strangely" extra joyful in his reactions and all, playing these grapplers.
They should do that. Should be modified more so that it doesn't seem like it's just an easy style, that it brings a different set of arsenals and weaknesses. Kinda like an Ism.
Modern is the reason i bought and enjoyed the game. I gladly accept the 20 percent damage penalty for feeling like I can play the game. Would have loved to see fair Justin could get on modern Gief.
I feel like in some ways (ease of his moves), and as proven here, the 20% less damage isn't as bad as it could be. That ragequit is why I'm scared to do some Lv.3 SA finishes in Ranked! What if they quit when they don't know they may have a bit of health left!?
it was just the Critical Art command only being activated if you press buttons in sequence and not at the same time, this would decrease the reactivity
I started playing modern Gief yesterday and this was the most fun I've ever had in street fighter in a while its really funny when you do the 720 so fast like your itazan or some shit
My first encounter with Modern Zangief was via watching a VTuber named Gamma Hizaki using it, especially during a two-team tournament starring him and some of his colleagues. He was the runner-up to the most menacing players to me there, the most menacing being the team leaders, who played Classic Guile and Classic Rashid, especially when they faced each other. And Gamma did reach Master with Modern Zangief, and as of now, he had already reached Master with Modern Lily too. Trying Modern Zangief for myself recently especially because of the struggle to input his Level 3 super on Classic, I found the ease of use freaking crazy. Sheesh. 🤯
This is why I use his first Command Grab on my Ken style Custom Character. You can dash up, do a flaming attack that forces a block, and then punish with a Command Grab for blocking. And if they don't block/parry, you're doing serious Ken combos.
Getting up close and personal with a Classic Zangief isn't too bad as long as you don't over do it. But why in the world would anybody want to take those risks with a Modern Zangief? They clearly were looking for a deathwish and they got it 😂
What you said at the end of this video about modern mode it's why I suck at it I'm so used to playing classic when somebody goes to grab me with normal grabs I mess up the tech
sadly back in the days you beat my brother he is gone now but when he was alive we watched you to learn from in our opinion the best rip big bro love ya
i've always been terrible at using grapplers. the only one i used semi-successfully was king, in tekken 4. and it was only for the gimmick of the input buffer bug, against easy opponents at the arcade.
There is a reason why Console Tager from Calamity Trigger was so scary despite being bottom tier. CT allow you to map 1 button special with ZERO penalty and 1 button Tager SPD, Super SPD and Astral Heat were so toxic.
Modern Controls present some annoying issues. It allows a few things that classic controls can't do, and it allows characters to have a super ready without the telltale movement that happens when they're buffering it.
@@pjbpianoSome things dint get beat by just adjusting. Things like 1 button access to supers, which are powerful with extra effects like invincibility, extreme damage when unscaled, especially with how easy super bar is to fill, is broken in a vacuum. The question is whether or not it is good enough to offset the downsides, which for now appears to be the case.
@@hteety, well we might think so, but professional players will eventually figure out how to go against a modern control player. Remember that it is simply a different playing style because the buttons are laid out differently. Once people figure this out, it will no longer be broken. The game is barely a month old at this point. Let’s see if you will still think this way two years into the game’s life cycle.
I absolutely love the modern controls, this is the first street fighter ive liked and its thanks to the fact i can just play the game without having to put all that work in learning the classic controls. Been maining Marisa since launch but might try Gief next
@ltb7446 I might eventually but for now, I'm just happy to play the game and have competitive matches. I'm not actually interested in climbing the ranks or anything like that but maybe that'll change in the future, and if it does I'll definitely try classic controls
I've been dabbling with modern controller with Jamie, I have mixed feelings on it right now... In certain situations it's great, other times, I think it makes using Jamie a lil more complicated
Bouncing off of what you said about modern being a different play style, do you think it’s viable to learn both control schemes for different matchups? Maybe have classic for most games but switching to modern for matchups that requires those fast reactions to check opponents
Bruh, Zangief's command grab range is outrageous. I havent even played online yet, just getting used to SF6's combo system and just playing the computer had me scared to approach him!
really depends upon which character you are using to fight him against. if your character has to be in opponents face all the time then it will be tough. also up to gold ranks the game is easy most players will drop combo and etc. if you fight with level 7/8 CPU and win then you don't have to worry much
@@AdamantMindset I'm still on CPU level 6 so far. Those command grabs HURT! I know it's because I have to be close though. I use Kimberly currently. My current strategy is to just throw out kicks and hit confirm and whiff punish command grabs. My reactions gotta catch up to what I'm trying to do though 😩.
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Justin became the very thing that he swore to destroy.
Justin knows how to get to people with his low level trolling.
Hasn't died a shoto, so he's lived long enough to become a grappler
Isn't that the case with all heroes!?
Acting like you ain't gonna get command grabbed
The only reason he's playing grappler now is because you can do SPD with one button, and that's textbook Justin Wong.
This man lives to trivialize fighting games and piss off his opponents.
Justin has that grappler in him. He is popping off harder than I have ever seen, playing Gief.
When he played Manon he also popped off really hard.
That’s because he was a grappler before
When you hate and play so many times against, you'll become good at playing it eventually. Because you need to be one to beat them.
His GGAC potemkin was also pretty schnasty
All grappler share the same braincell... can I borrow it for a bit?
Justin Then: "I Hate Grapplers, I Hate Zangief..."
Justin Now: "Me and the Bestie"
Zangief is not a grappler. He's a conditioner.
~Justin Wong
He leaves the hair silky and smooth
@@lasagnahog7695especially the chest hair 😎
Zangief had to be the only character that after a few body slams and won matches, you cant help but repeat everything he says to your opponent. it's just so much fun!!!
JACKHAMMER!!
I want someone to win a sf6 major using modern Zangief, it'd be glorious
I want only modern controls in a sf major.
Never gonna happen.
Modern Gief is trash, this is just a troll video every dumbass in the SF6 community fell for.
"WHACHA GONNA DO WHEN MODERN MODE COMES FOR YOU!!!" had me dieing man!!! Love the content!!!
Bad Wong Bad Wong
This was so damn funny and entertaining! Historically I really only play MK, but I've been branching out into other fighting games, and this game has just taken me away. Been loving the content man, great video!
SF6 is really special
This was probably one of my favorite videos you have released recently, honestly felt like you were reacting more fluently with this modern control zangief then you do with Chun. Feel like you could make a series from bronze to master off of this idea alone because of all of the opportunities for good clips and edits in this kind of gameplay. Thanks for the content legend keep it up
Smurfing is awful for the game, so maybe not that
your streaks add up the points in low rank until platinum. so it wont be that impressive going from bronze.
I think what I love most about this is that you lose so many of Gief's options by playing in Modern....but you *gain* Fear Factor, which is almost worth every lost normal and combo option.
Justin has had an amazing Heel turn in SF6! He ALL about grapplers now!
Purple Sharpie gotta do the run in and we got a feud to CEO.
Hollywood Justin Wong 😂
I'm an SF newbie and I tried out Modern Zangief in ranked yesterday for the first time, and reached silver with an 8 win streak. I felt dirty
is silver, a high rank?
I can understand why people asking to divide M and C
Reaching the top in the rank its easy, but even im not a pro player, something inside me are saying to play C lol
That’s because low ranks are 99% new players
So you should.
Classic controls is the best.
As a Gief main since SF4, I love this. It makes Wiff punishing so much more viable. Before it you'd have to rely heavily on hard reads and wiff punishing into spd or super was generally avoided unless you had godly reactions and execution.
right its like you dont even need to think on modern lmao you just PRESS 1 BUTTON 🥴 HUURR DDUUUR
@@dontworryaboutit5490 anyone whos actually good at the game can play around modern giefs..
The game is fun now. U don't need a dozen inputs just to do 1 move
I don't even Play this Game, as my Computer Sucks, but damn. I do like this "Modern Controls" that just popped up on my Recommendations. Soo many Fighting Games I play [Not a Lot] have some very Difficulty Control & Mechanics that take a while to get used to... In fact, sometimes, *I even use an Macro on Autohotkey just to do an Specific Move, such as an "Command Grab" or "Super" early on to be able to Enjoy the Character Fully*[I don't have that Much Time to be Playing and Mastering an Game]. Being able to Play the Game without Messing your Inputs Half of the Time while you are a Beginner would make an Huge Difference for me. If my Computer could Run this Game, I would really Consider Playing it now, as a Big Reason I totally avoid Street Fighter Games is because they kind of seems to be too Hard to Join in and get used to the "Seemingly" Difficulty Inputs😭
He's my main but I refuse to use modern control
This has a lot of “you goin learn today” energy
"Modern Controls" is like the opposite of "I'm using tilt controls" in Mario Kart. 😛
Modern Gief is certainly good but if you're interested, don't be too afraid of trying Classic Gief. This game is PRETTY GENEROUS with the SPD input. You can only do a half circle and then inmediately up and it'll count. If you want to do the Lvl 3 after a DI you have more than enough time to input this two times and land it amazingly.
Yeah, but 720 is a whole other lvl.
I cannot imagine inputting that in a reall match(even with the whole buffer shinanigans etc.)
You'd be surprised, there's a lot of ways to buffer the 720. Dashing, his forward knee move, his head butt, drive rush, empty jumping, I've even seen a dude get me by baiting parry and inputting 720 during the negative frames.
Only thing stopping you from playing zangief is patience, you need a lot of patience.
@@nicholaskline7976 I think the main difference here is that in Modern, you don't have to do *any* of that for inputting 720 for the lvl 3. When you play against a Classic Zangief there are certain tells where you know whether he can do lvl 3 or not, but in Modern, Zangief can basically do it any time even while just standing, making it quite a lot stronger for reacting / footsies. And if you need the extra damage you can still do 720 / 360 for situations like punishing after DI.
Reminds me of how Sodom's throws were done in Alpha 3. They weren't too hard to pull off and it made him a fun and easy grappler
@@Medivh73 I just told you the easiest way, half circul and then up. Doesn't have to be a full 720. With moves like DI or the knee it's pretty easy, I promise.
I feel bad for Justin. A lot of people are going to try and get him to pay for all their controllers they snapped in half.
I'm really going to be excited for the day someone wins a major with modern controls.
Loved the real perspectives on the state of the character and modern control mixed with the comedy.
Another wonderful episode of the Grappler Tsundere Justin series. As always looking "strangely" extra joyful in his reactions and all, playing these grapplers.
Justin's mic clipping during his pop offs makes everything so much better.
Justin's mic constantly cutting out only makes this funnier
I think modern mode is potentially gonna be like picking a different ultra, the character becomes a whole different animal in the matchup
They should do that. Should be modified more so that it doesn't seem like it's just an easy style, that it brings a different set of arsenals and weaknesses. Kinda like an Ism.
Modern Zangief is a straight menace in JWong's hands
modern hand*
Plus points for the DBZ Abridged soundclip about the prince and grabbing the bull by the horn. Vegeta would have been proud of that screwup. XD
I honestly didn't think he'd beat a Classical Gief. That's wild.
Lmao I am in a Justin Wong video.
Well played man!
I love you justin, you're seriously the chillest pro gamer out there
Not only was entertaining but man you made me giggle and laugh so bad. I dont play with Zangief but watching you playing him was gold!
The modern logo flashing on screen on level 3 activation should just be a feature in the game lmao.
This was awesome. We could tell just how much fun he was having here. I might give modern Gief a shot now.
I’m not going to lie, this video helped me become a Modern Zangief main.
That mirror match was hilarious and was well worth it being at the end.
Modern is the reason i bought and enjoyed the game. I gladly accept the 20 percent damage penalty for feeling like I can play the game. Would have loved to see fair Justin could get on modern Gief.
He made it to master , his last game was hilarious
You're probably cool with auto aim too
You want the game to play itself for ya huh. Might as well play dynamic. That way you can play with your feet and read a book while you do it.
Gief and Manon are so cool in this game, I don't really play grapplers much but both of them just feel really fun in this game
That YFS reference was kind of on point. Ken isn't a prince, but he is filthy rich, which some people would argue is roughly the same 😂
I feel like in some ways (ease of his moves), and as proven here, the 20% less damage isn't as bad as it could be. That ragequit is why I'm scared to do some Lv.3 SA finishes in Ranked! What if they quit when they don't know they may have a bit of health left!?
I was there live during the stream for the "don't you dare! What did I say?!" Moment. So good.
Don't whiff a normal - you fool! Was my favorite part that shit had me laughing out loud
This was awesome! Nice work Justin!
it was just the Critical Art command only being activated if you press buttons in sequence and not at the same time, this would decrease the reactivity
I started playing modern Gief yesterday and this was the most fun I've ever had in street fighter in a while its really funny when you do the 720 so fast like your itazan or some shit
2:18 I LOVE THE DBZA OVER THIS ITS SO FITTING LMAOOO
I can even hear the yodel from the ancient times...
2:20 Holy shit, that TFS reference came out of nowhere, and it got me good!
Esse é o primeiro street que conseguir jogar de maneira descente com Zangief, por causa do controle moderno. Tem gente chorando pro meu Zangief kkk
9:01 "MODERRRRN!" 😂😂😂😂 killed me!
My first encounter with Modern Zangief was via watching a VTuber named Gamma Hizaki using it, especially during a two-team tournament starring him and some of his colleagues. He was the runner-up to the most menacing players to me there, the most menacing being the team leaders, who played Classic Guile and Classic Rashid, especially when they faced each other. And Gamma did reach Master with Modern Zangief, and as of now, he had already reached Master with Modern Lily too. Trying Modern Zangief for myself recently especially because of the struggle to input his Level 3 super on Classic, I found the ease of use freaking crazy. Sheesh. 🤯
Modern Gief is like playing against the AI on the hardest difficulty. If you are in range, you are getting grabbed 100%.
This is my favorite jwong video right now! Great job!
“That music is for me!” 😂 My oldest son and I laughed so hard during this video!
You no scare, I no scare
Love seeing you just have fun with the game.
As a modern Zangief main I can confirm that we’re just built different.
ive not slowed down climbing from plat 1 to diamond 1 on modern manon so far, its terrifying honestly
This is why I use his first Command Grab on my Ken style Custom Character. You can dash up, do a flaming attack that forces a block, and then punish with a Command Grab for blocking. And if they don't block/parry, you're doing serious Ken combos.
Cammy dive kick, dhalsim teleport and zangief one button spd's😂😂😂
Modern control Zangief is wild lol. Instant SPD is terrifying lol.
Getting up close and personal with a Classic Zangief isn't too bad as long as you don't over do it. But why in the world would anybody want to take those risks with a Modern Zangief? They clearly were looking for a deathwish and they got it 😂
because people didnt adjusted to the fact that playing against modern player is like playing a completely different game.
I love this man. Zangief and Justin Wong. What a fun combo.
I wonder if SnakeEyes uses modern mode. Has he ever tried it?
What you said at the end of this video about modern mode it's why I suck at it I'm so used to playing classic when somebody goes to grab me with normal grabs I mess up the tech
When I see a modern gief, I make peace with my future lost points before the match starts.
1:03 only been here for this long and justin made an "M" out of that poor Luke 😂😂 Modern game dangerous
I love watching people enjoy the gief. especially when you get that grab in, so satisfying. 🤤
sadly back in the days you beat my brother he is gone now but when he was alive we watched you to learn from in our opinion the best rip big bro love ya
its like tasty steve just seeing an arm overextend and just goes feral with the grab
Was not expecting a DBZA reference that was a nice treat
So genuinely hype about the thrashing your handing out!
2:07 - that post spd celebration with the irl grab 😂
Damn cammy, you really bending that back @2:49
lol that was entertaining. the hulkamania reference was priceless. i laughed so hard lol
That Haha Davis TOOT DAT- to level 3 killed me😂😂
I played against that last Zangief last night, he’s a diamond 2 now if anyone is curious. Hope to run into you soon Justin, cheers.
i've always been terrible at using grapplers.
the only one i used semi-successfully was king, in tekken 4.
and it was only for the gimmick of the input buffer bug, against easy opponents at the arcade.
modern control is nightmare with someone having good reactions
This video was fire 🔥🔥🔥 Jay keep up the great work bro
There is a reason why Console Tager from Calamity Trigger was so scary despite being bottom tier. CT allow you to map 1 button special with ZERO penalty and 1 button Tager SPD, Super SPD and Astral Heat were so toxic.
love seeing you have fun! keep whooping butt in ranked!
Modern Controls present some annoying issues. It allows a few things that classic controls can't do, and it allows characters to have a super ready without the telltale movement that happens when they're buffering it.
Can't believe the majority of community is okay with it. It's basically cheating
It’s a playing style and people will eventually learn to beat it.
@@pjbpianoSome things dint get beat by just adjusting. Things like 1 button access to supers, which are powerful with extra effects like invincibility, extreme damage when unscaled, especially with how easy super bar is to fill, is broken in a vacuum. The question is whether or not it is good enough to offset the downsides, which for now appears to be the case.
@@hteety, well we might think so, but professional players will eventually figure out how to go against a modern control player. Remember that it is simply a different playing style because the buttons are laid out differently. Once people figure this out, it will no longer be broken.
The game is barely a month old at this point. Let’s see if you will still think this way two years into the game’s life cycle.
@@pjbpiano yep. MK players have had to deal with instant supers for over a decade yet the better player ends up shining through
Yes! M Zangief! Finally some love
This intro was absolutely amazing, and the editing all around was really fun to watch! More of this energy!
Modern Zangief plat in 4 hours. He's insanely good at punishing the small mistakes as this video showcases. It's fuuunnn
Now I scream “MODERN” every time I ult. Even when I’m playing classic
I absolutely love the modern controls, this is the first street fighter ive liked and its thanks to the fact i can just play the game without having to put all that work in learning the classic controls. Been maining Marisa since launch but might try Gief next
You still have to learn classic controls or else you will just be stuck with modern control
@ltb7446 I might eventually but for now, I'm just happy to play the game and have competitive matches. I'm not actually interested in climbing the ranks or anything like that but maybe that'll change in the future, and if it does I'll definitely try classic controls
@@Entrejainot everyone is a sweat bro. Some people just wanna have fun
The "M" stands for menace.
My first display name on SF6 was “I Am Almighty.” 😂 Love that SPD.
The random dbza narration was awesome 😂
Absolute comic genius. A+ Mr. Wong
This is the best SF6 vid I have watched to date. 😂
I've been dabbling with modern controller with Jamie, I have mixed feelings on it right now... In certain situations it's great, other times, I think it makes using Jamie a lil more complicated
Awesome, looked like you were having a blast too.
Bouncing off of what you said about modern being a different play style, do you think it’s viable to learn both control schemes for different matchups? Maybe have classic for most games but switching to modern for matchups that requires those fast reactions to check opponents
It's scary with gief because he can even the odds really quickly
I can't wait to see you and Smug go at it with Gief!!!
Shoutout to editor for the dbza reference
the dbz abridge voice
0:06 That had me dying😂😂😂
Bruh, Zangief's command grab range is outrageous. I havent even played online yet, just getting used to SF6's combo system and just playing the computer had me scared to approach him!
really depends upon which character you are using to fight him against. if your character has to be in opponents face all the time then it will be tough. also up to gold ranks the game is easy most players will drop combo and etc. if you fight with level 7/8 CPU and win then you don't have to worry much
@@AdamantMindset I'm still on CPU level 6 so far. Those command grabs HURT! I know it's because I have to be close though. I use Kimberly currently. My current strategy is to just throw out kicks and hit confirm and whiff punish command grabs. My reactions gotta catch up to what I'm trying to do though 😩.
2:21 this gave me pure joy
Awesome stuff!
Just went on a 15 game win streak with Modern Zangief :D