I appreciate both of your views on the integrity issues of fishing tournaments and agree with them. More people need to get on board with this and MLF and Bassmaster and tournament directors need to step up and do the right thing, even if the right thing is tough to do. It takes courage and maturity. Need more of it and this movement toward being a man and doing the right thing needs to spread and be contagious.
Your absolutely correct ish! If someone wants you to say something cause they are a coward or scared they are just as guilty. As a tournament fisherman we need more of this more than ever! Thank you sir!!!!
Most people dont want to rock the boat. If you are going to rock the boat and call someone out do it in the heat of the moment. I got screwed by a boater at a Federation 2 day. Guy borrowed a boat with a dead motor and brought 6 batteries to fish the Ct river. Needless to say I zeroed. Not knowing the rules I waited a couple weeks to make the compaint after the state team had been picked when I was club represtative at the Federation state meeting. Not only was there nothing anyone could have done but I looked awful stupid trying to make a case after the fact. The people that run trails are not detectives with time on their hands to chase down alleged claims. Make the complaint in front of the perp in the heat of the moment so he has a chance to offer a defence or forget about it.
Great video guys. Definitely glad you called out the guess who are not willing to report things themselves but have no problem sending it to someone that will put it out there.
Amen, Ish. It seems there’s not a single major tournament that takes place lately without some form of drama. It’s really turned me off to tournament fishing, after I did it for many years. What happened to fishing because it’s fun and a way to connect with nature?
@@spintowinstradic6067 I mean yeah they pay more but people might like fishing. I don’t really care about the nature aspect of it. I could fish a lake in the middle of a city with factories surrounding it. I just like fishing. The drama surrounding the tournaments isn’t really that different than drama in other competitive sports. It’s common in things people devote their whole life to. In racing people were yelling at each other every week and people got into fights fairly frequently.
The cicadas are all over my lakes I've fished around them in txs last 2 weekends but only fish eating them is the bream not the bass. Not sure why I haven't seen it..matter of fact same lake lintner was talking about them
I fish MLF in the arkie division as a co angler. So far I haven’t had any bad ones, but you hear all the drama. It does think should I continue to fish these or just the local tournaments. It’s sad that all this stuff happens
It is honor and respect among fishermen. No matter which organization from the top tear to the Wednesday nighter type of tournament it is all the same. People think the are above the rules, black and white not the intent of the rule that is broken.
Ish cut me off once on lake st Clair in a CDN open tournament I was flipping a dock headed to next one ….. not sure but he motored into it I was 25 yds away. Totally ignored me….
So I went 7 or 8 years without hooking a sight fish outside the mouth, then it happened once last year and once this year, so it happens, but not often.
90s and 2000s I’ve seen cheating back in the 80s it’s gotten so bad now I have stopped fishing in the larger tournaments the more money the more cheating
Todd, kinda understand the hesitation in these cases, back in the day David Wharton didn’t want to take out a loan to pay his entry fees up front 55k and it seemingly changed his life for the worse (I do realize you likely know more about this than me) I do know he lost his boat deal and pretty much quit doing what he loved to do fish. Good conversation
I like where your coming from on rules. How many people don’t like stoping at a red light when no cars are coming? Running a no wake is kinda the same way.
Reporting a break in the rules is the same as in golf. You are protecting the field by reporting a rules violation. It shouldn’t come back on the person reporting it. They didn’t break the rules
I will help 1. if I see a angler lay it down right after they see a no wake zone I would never say nothing 2. if the just run the no wake zone that's a huge difference
I watched Gerald swindle throw across the bank into a pound at the Falls Lake tournament and catch a fish. This was against the rules, and he didn't turn himself in.
People are hating on GMAN for telling Trey about the violation in front of DanO because he's in the media and that he's jealous of Trey. Personally I don't think you need to hide the fact that someone broke a rule from anyone, it is what it is. GMAN did the right thing point blank period and no way in hell he is jealous with 2 AOY's on his mantle and great sponsorships paying him.
Would like to see a rule that once you are out of the tournament, you can not pass on info to guys still in the tournament. Not sure ott would have won the classic if it was a rule back then.
Why is your name not on the hybrid hunter if you did all the R&D? And I know you put a lot of work into it. I bought 6 of them because of all the fish you have shown catching on it. LOL
I don’t need my name on a bait. For what purpose? I’ve never even thought about it. My job is to make baits, design, come up with new ideas. I think that’s something to sell baits, I more interested in creating good ones
There is one word to describe the argument guys have about breaking "stupid rules" , it is ENTITLEMENT. The world is full of it these days. We learn about rules as children. Like them or not, follow the rules.
I watch so many videos about different things where guys talk about the same thing. This is the world we live in now the person that does the right thing pretty much any more is the bad guy just like the guy in New York to say those people in the subway, but he’s probably gonna get thrown in jail
I totally agree with everything you guys are saying!!!! It’s really easy, follow the rules and do the right thing and if you make a mistake, freakin OWN IT! People will respect someone who admits that they made a mistake versus lying 🤥 and cheating just to win or gain an advantage. The man above ☝️ knows everything we do on a daily basis. JUST DO THE RIGHT THING!!
99% of fishermen are conservative minded people. Conservative people by nature keep there mouth shut and stay away from any spotlight most of the time. This applies to basically all things perceived in the world. Silent majority
Rule breakers are rule breakers. People defending rule breakers most likely, “ Did not play well with others in school” It’s not rocket science just read and follow the rules. Be an adult and a “man” and self police your organization It’s not that hard!!!
100% agree for reporting 100% disagree getting on social weeks later and airing out the drama for clicks America. 🇺🇸
Thank you two for having the fortitude to have this conversation!!!
I appreciate both of your views on the integrity issues of fishing tournaments and agree with them. More people need to get on board with this and MLF and Bassmaster and tournament directors need to step up and do the right thing, even if the right thing is tough to do. It takes courage and maturity. Need more of it and this movement toward being a man and doing the right thing needs to spread and be contagious.
Your absolutely correct ish! If someone wants you to say something cause they are a coward or scared they are just as guilty. As a tournament fisherman we need more of this more than ever! Thank you sir!!!!
Most people dont want to rock the boat. If you are going to rock the boat and call someone out do it in the heat of the moment. I got screwed by a boater at a Federation 2 day. Guy borrowed a boat with a dead motor and brought 6 batteries to fish the Ct river. Needless to say I zeroed. Not knowing the rules I waited a couple weeks to make the compaint after the state team had been picked when I was club represtative at the Federation state meeting. Not only was there nothing anyone could have done but I looked awful stupid trying to make a case after the fact. The people that run trails are not detectives with time on their hands to chase down alleged claims. Make the complaint in front of the perp in the heat of the moment so he has a chance to offer a defence or forget about it.
Great video guys. Definitely glad you called out the guess who are not willing to report things themselves but have no problem sending it to someone that will put it out there.
You’re 100% correct on the rules if somebody breaks it they get what they deserve. Great show guys.
Great show Todd/Ish. Good to see integrity still exists
Y'all's my fishing heroes! This is why this is the best fishing content out there.
Amen, Ish. It seems there’s not a single major tournament that takes place lately without some form of drama. It’s really turned me off to tournament fishing, after I did it for many years. What happened to fishing because it’s fun and a way to connect with nature?
People that want to have fun and enjoy nature mostly don’t enter a tournament. People that are competitive and want to win join
@@devinwillis7787 That’s a false choice. And if it’s just winning, plenty other sports that pay much better LOL. But good luck this year!
@@spintowinstradic6067 I mean yeah they pay more but people might like fishing. I don’t really care about the nature aspect of it. I could fish a lake in the middle of a city with factories surrounding it. I just like fishing.
The drama surrounding the tournaments isn’t really that different than drama in other competitive sports. It’s common in things people devote their whole life to. In racing people were yelling at each other every week and people got into fights fairly frequently.
You really want to know. The money! Plain and simple
The cicadas are all over my lakes I've fished around them in txs last 2 weekends but only fish eating them is the bream not the bass. Not sure why I haven't seen it..matter of fact same lake lintner was talking about them
This is the not held accountable generation. Their not use to being called out for their bad behavior.
I am SO glad I never had to be beholding to sponsors for my money!
The cicada thing at the end of Upshaws show yesterday had me pulling over so I didn’t wreck my truck laughing 😂 it
😮 Matt's a great dude < Deep down you guys love him ! He definitely makes the elite picks fun < You guys are great at breaking his Nuts 😮 Peace !😮
I fish MLF in the arkie division as a co angler. So far I haven’t had any bad ones, but you hear all the drama. It does think should I continue to fish these or just the local tournaments. It’s sad that all this stuff happens
It is honor and respect among fishermen. No matter which organization from the top tear to the Wednesday nighter type of tournament it is all the same. People think the are above the rules, black and white not the intent of the rule that is broken.
Ish cut me off once on lake st Clair in a CDN open tournament I was flipping a dock headed to next one ….. not sure but he motored into it I was 25 yds away. Totally ignored me….
fyi per Scott Martin's youtube channel video, he self reported himself after becoming aware of the infraction and his day 2 fishing was zeroed.
Just in time for a long trip home from the lake
So I went 7 or 8 years without hooking a sight fish outside the mouth, then it happened once last year and once this year, so it happens, but not often.
90s and 2000s I’ve seen cheating back in the 80s it’s gotten so bad now I have stopped fishing in the larger tournaments the more money the more cheating
That cicada hatch is 🔥!
Great stuff 😂
Todd, kinda understand the hesitation in these cases, back in the day David Wharton didn’t want to take out a loan to pay his entry fees up front 55k and it seemingly changed his life for the worse (I do realize you likely know more about this than me) I do know he lost his boat deal and pretty much quit doing what he loved to do fish. Good conversation
These shows make life better 😊.
Great show, thanks buddy
I like where your coming from on rules. How many people don’t like stoping at a red light when no cars are coming? Running a no wake is kinda the same way.
Enjoy both Ish and Todd. Alway interesting
That's how I was raised. If you see something going down that's wrong and don't do anything, your just as guilty.
Reporting a break in the rules is the same as in golf. You are protecting the field by reporting a rules violation. It shouldn’t come back on the person reporting it. They didn’t break the rules
I saw a one pound bass chase a frog on to shore. The frog got away and the bass wiggled back into the water.
Even zona is trolling the cicada thing on live now! 😂
I will help
1. if I see a angler lay it down right after they see a no wake zone I would never say nothing
2. if the just run the no wake zone that's a huge difference
I watched Gerald swindle throw across the bank into a pound at the Falls Lake tournament and catch a fish. This was against the rules, and he didn't turn himself in.
I've never even had to question what the rules were
People are hating on GMAN for telling Trey about the violation in front of DanO because he's in the media and that he's jealous of Trey. Personally I don't think you need to hide the fact that someone broke a rule from anyone, it is what it is. GMAN did the right thing point blank period and no way in hell he is jealous with 2 AOY's on his mantle and great sponsorships paying him.
JDM cicada baits gonna have a showing out lol
Would like to see a rule that once you are out of the tournament, you can not pass on info to guys still in the tournament. Not sure ott would have won the classic if it was a rule back then.
It is a rule, always has been
Why is your name not on the hybrid hunter if you did all the R&D? And I know you put a lot of work into it. I bought 6 of them because of all the fish you have shown catching on it. LOL
I don’t need my name on a bait. For what purpose? I’ve never even thought about it. My job is to make baits, design, come up with new ideas. I think that’s something to sell baits, I more interested in creating good ones
Look how many Kennedy let go at clear lake caught outside the mouth on a swim bait.
Matt's great!
There is one word to describe the argument guys have about breaking "stupid rules" , it is ENTITLEMENT. The world is full of it these days. We learn about rules as children. Like them or not, follow the rules.
I watch so many videos about different things where guys talk about the same thing. This is the world we live in now the person that does the right thing pretty much any more is the bad guy just like the guy in New York to say those people in the subway, but he’s probably gonna get thrown in jail
Cheaters are......cowards
Big fish ish
Ish, I just heard about what happened to Christian today. That’s absolute trash.
I totally agree with everything you guys are saying!!!! It’s really easy, follow the rules and do the right thing and if you make a mistake, freakin OWN IT! People will respect someone who admits that they made a mistake versus lying 🤥 and cheating just to win or gain an advantage. The man above ☝️ knows everything we do on a daily basis. JUST DO THE RIGHT THING!!
99% of fishermen are conservative minded people. Conservative people by nature keep there mouth shut and stay away from any spotlight most of the time. This applies to basically all things perceived in the world. Silent majority
I ain’t seen sh!t
Ish over here not wanting to be part of drama,, Talking drama 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
And that dude that followed the guy just last weekend won out of the blue when you and Christian were in Alabama…
Rule breakers are rule breakers. People defending rule breakers most likely,
“ Did not play well with others in school”
It’s not rocket science just read and follow the rules. Be an adult and a “man” and self police your organization It’s not that hard!!!
Welcome to 2024
You must be hurting for some one to be on your show!