Basically found the perfect deck guide for me! Ive been on the toy white forest deck for a while that could punp out dragoon and/or return zero fairly easy. This feels right at home
glad you enjoyed it! yeah there's about 3 slots in the extra deck (6 depending if you want to run the links) for tech choices like dragoon line or return zero line. I would say return zero is not *absolutely* necessary now since we have the azamina silvia to make an omni before nibiru which was zero's main purpose
@@adamquenano8563 yeah that was one of the things most frustrating to me when I first came across white forest. Every video was a montage of these crazy end boards that weren't practical and the opponent never had interruption 😩
@@GrinningNeko143 Exactly!!! Man everytime I’d watch these videos I’d say in my head, “So to play this deck I’d have to hope my opponents have the worst hands possible?”, I was a mannadium player and with that deck it was go hard or go home 24/7. So I knew that would not fly especially with this format moving forward. I was able to talk shop someone at my store at the sneak peek and he showed me his deck where he combined centur-ion and Horus and I was puzzled yet educated by his deck.
@@GrinningNeko143 don't need it maybe, but personally I want to keep playing it, or at least try it out, the toy cards are just too good to throw out without a second though imo
I've been using muddy mudragon,albion, and dark dragoon for the extra omni negate, or I can fuse into Mu Rcielago using silhouhatte rabbit and any light spellcaster which is pretty cool if your opponent let's you get that far lol
@@Lynxx52 i was never personally bought into the dragoon line in pure but I know a lot of people have had success with it. So its another tech line to have in your extra deck as well
The life points effect of the deception never came up once since I playtest the engine. The only way I can see it happening is when you get ashed on the search but nobody does that so …
it is once per turn anytime a monster is sent to the opponent's gy while you control an azamina monster. it is super relevant in fiendsmith, snake eye, branded, memento, you name it. definitely something the opponent has to play around when games are going to time
You should try using Triple tactics thrust to get the cards you need in case they hand trap you. For example, deception got negated by ash. Active thrust to add hallow to proceed the combo, or add board breakers for going 2nd.
Hey, nice profile and congrats! I like your video AND your avatar °^° May I ask if you have an idea how to replace deceptions for people who have to save for it :') thanks a lot
@@xerajin5751 playing pure toy box will most likely just end on diabell, woes and the new omni spell set, with rabbit/azurine. Which is still pretty formidable though!
@@GrinningNeko143 thanks for the fast reply! Just coming back from half a year break and picked up White Forest - Runick and Pure Centurion for testing next week. ^^ Keep up your content! :3
Nice deck profile! Instead of the cloud dragon you could try Ghoti of the Deep Beyond (lvl 10) since you can make it with the shrimp. Also, I know exactly what synchro you are talking about as a tech for Ryzeal lol. Already got it and its extra deck friends prepped to lock them out.
there's at least 3 synchro tech slots that could ideally be anything depending on what you are expecting to face. hell even the mud dragon/dragoon line could be fit in there
Hey i play basicly the same deck but with 3 toy soldier because what is when you dont open toy box or soldier u need these to do something wirh this deck.
I could definitely see toy soldier at 3. In my original iteration I was at 3 soldier & 1 diabellestar and came to the conclusion that I would rather have the azamina engine with higher % pts. Could definitely go either way with more testing in the future!
If we're talking uninterrupted combo without seeing toy cards, I still end on silvia omni, azurine/rabbit, diabelle, ip masq & white forest omni + 2 cards in hand (hopefully hand traps) with deception set at end step. you just miss out on woes since your rciela search as to be elzette to keep extending & you have to go into the azamina rcielago first before ending on the omni
in this line you are searching 6+ times and drawing potentially 2 times so you might even see toy box to keep going. (this was just tested with purely seeing no toys throughout the entirety)
Your deck list and guide made more sense to me then majority of yugitubers I watch regarding this
glad you like it! I will be updating the list and sideboard options soon with this new Maliss/Ryzeal meta!
Basically found the perfect deck guide for me! Ive been on the toy white forest deck for a while that could punp out dragoon and/or return zero fairly easy. This feels right at home
glad you enjoyed it! yeah there's about 3 slots in the extra deck (6 depending if you want to run the links) for tech choices like dragoon line or return zero line. I would say return zero is not *absolutely* necessary now since we have the azamina silvia to make an omni before nibiru which was zero's main purpose
Thank god I finally found a deck guide for this deck
@@adamquenano8563 yeah been cooking this deck in secret since azamina was announced
Hopefully this video helped you
@@GrinningNeko143 I would look all over RUclips to find deck lists and most of them were either combo videos or OCG where they played Baronne 😤😤😤
@@adamquenano8563 yeah that was one of the things most frustrating to me when I first came across white forest. Every video was a montage of these crazy end boards that weren't practical and the opponent never had interruption 😩
@@GrinningNeko143 Exactly!!! Man everytime I’d watch these videos I’d say in my head, “So to play this deck I’d have to hope my opponents have the worst hands possible?”, I was a mannadium player and with that deck it was go hard or go home 24/7. So I knew that would not fly especially with this format moving forward. I was able to talk shop someone at my store at the sneak peek and he showed me his deck where he combined centur-ion and Horus and I was puzzled yet educated by his deck.
Sure would love to see a combo guide on this.
Absolutely gonna work on it! 👍
Thoughts on how the new card from supreme darkness will make the coolest deck even cooler?
@@squiglythegoon9678 yeah the SUDA cards make this deck so much more consistent and you don't need the toy engine any more
@@GrinningNeko143 don't need it maybe, but personally I want to keep playing it, or at least try it out, the toy cards are just too good to throw out without a second though imo
I've been using muddy mudragon,albion, and dark dragoon for the extra omni negate, or I can fuse into Mu Rcielago using silhouhatte rabbit and any light spellcaster which is pretty cool if your opponent let's you get that far lol
@@Lynxx52 i was never personally bought into the dragoon line in pure but I know a lot of people have had success with it. So its another tech line to have in your extra deck as well
just found this video, already getting a sub and like. thank you for this video
forgot to mention, your playmate is a W
@@Heiko_0 ty for watching and subscribing!!
The life points effect of the deception never came up once since I playtest the engine.
The only way I can see it happening is when you get ashed on the search but nobody does that so …
it is once per turn anytime a monster is sent to the opponent's gy while you control an azamina monster. it is super relevant in fiendsmith, snake eye, branded, memento, you name it. definitely something the opponent has to play around when games are going to time
Thanks. Now i know what to hit when going against it 😅😅
@@ThetrueKidGoku droll and shifter still hose this deck
You should try using Triple tactics thrust to get the cards you need in case they hand trap you. For example, deception got negated by ash. Active thrust to add hallow to proceed the combo, or add board breakers for going 2nd.
unfortunately TTT isnt really helpful if u get ash'd going 1st. Since they have to control a monster for you to add the card to hand
Do you see Deception kept at 2 with the new cards from SUDA?
@@ImMicku most likely going up to 3 since we get to cut the toy box package. My video reviewing the new support is about to come out today!
@@ImMicku then as soon as the cards are available in sims I'll make a video on builds & lines
the moment when i thought your vtuber is part of an archtype that i then wanted to play for no particular reason ofc
Hey, nice profile and congrats! I like your video AND your avatar °^° May I ask if you have an idea how to replace deceptions for people who have to save for it :') thanks a lot
@@xerajin5751 thank you so much for watching and the compliments!
@@xerajin5751 playing pure toy box will most likely just end on diabell, woes and the new omni spell set, with rabbit/azurine. Which is still pretty formidable though!
@@GrinningNeko143 thanks for the fast reply! Just coming back from half a year break and picked up White Forest - Runick and Pure Centurion for testing next week. ^^ Keep up your content! :3
@@xerajin5751 white forest runick is still very strong way of playing the deck right now! And getting to have the new omni spell is great!
Nice deck profile! Instead of the cloud dragon you could try Ghoti of the Deep Beyond (lvl 10) since you can make it with the shrimp. Also, I know exactly what synchro you are talking about as a tech for Ryzeal lol. Already got it and its extra deck friends prepped to lock them out.
yeah my buddy put me on it one night and I had to order my copy instantly! Can't wait for the first time it comes up!
there's at least 3 synchro tech slots that could ideally be anything depending on what you are expecting to face. hell even the mud dragon/dragoon line could be fit in there
@@GrinningNeko143which synchro are you talking about against Ryzeal?
@@AssilAk I'mma make a guess and say Zoroa, Magistus and equip it with the xyz Magistus to shut them down
old entity cthugua, im gonna talk about it with play testing when it comes in
Mmm, gonna try it, thanks for the video, hope we can see some combos next?
Yeah absolutely going to working on that next!
@@GrinningNeko143 Thanks a lot!!
How do you make Erysichthon? No fiend monsters in deck?
@@Whizardry the azamina spells fusion summon by revealing and ignore the actual material requirements. You just send a sinful spoils card as cost
Is there any way i could play the deck without elzette i have basically everything elase i just dont have the money for her😢
@@RizzLerr-m3f ill be honest not really. Elzette is the best name in white forest as your extender.
Like if its between getting elzettes or sinful spoils stuff. Id buy the elzettes and just play pure while u save money
Nice profile! But you can’t burn after dark ruler no more!
@@AGwaspisboss yeah sorry i was nervous& mispoke and wasnt clear. The burn was in game 3 on the play popping my own witches
@@GrinningNeko143 oh makes sense now lol!
Hey i play basicly the same deck but with 3 toy soldier because what is when you dont open toy box or soldier u need these to do something wirh this deck.
I could definitely see toy soldier at 3. In my original iteration I was at 3 soldier & 1 diabellestar and came to the conclusion that I would rather have the azamina engine with higher % pts. Could definitely go either way with more testing in the future!
Yeah okay but i have the problem i cant play when i dont start with toy. What is your Board with diabel + wf engine u know what i mean ?
If we're talking uninterrupted combo without seeing toy cards, I still end on silvia omni, azurine/rabbit, diabelle, ip masq & white forest omni + 2 cards in hand (hopefully hand traps) with deception set at end step. you just miss out on woes since your rciela search as to be elzette to keep extending & you have to go into the azamina rcielago first before ending on the omni
in this line you are searching 6+ times and drawing potentially 2 times so you might even see toy box to keep going. (this was just tested with purely seeing no toys throughout the entirety)
@@GrinningNeko143 please do a combo Video i play 3.11 regionals and i want to top there with this deck