SDI GRAD ADVICE - Common Mistakes Made on the 4473
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024
- This edition of "SDI Grad Advice" sees Caleb Downing goes over a couple of common mistakes that are made on the 4473 form and how you can avoid them.
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I just want to say thank you. I went to get my gun on my birthday and was told I fill the form out wrong. Went back the next week and was told the same thing was about to give up hope but you just showed me where I messed up. ❤ Thank you.
Really glad Caleb could help! Hope it's all sorted out for you now :)
@@SdiEdu yes thanks
ATF always trying to make it hard for us law abiding citizens to defend ourselves
Why are you using an old version of the form? The new version is way more complex
Hey FYI, on question 21, the section in the brackets actually says to leave 21n1 and 21n2 blank if you are a US citizen. The way they wrote question 21 its almost guaranteed to be miss marked.
This one gets me every single time
21n1 and 21n2 are to be left blank , only if you are an American citizen/national .
I fail bc of that question
I did yesturday was told to.come the next day and try again
Yes talk more about the 21.m1 and 21m2 question
"Some people are hesitant to give the gvt their SSN, but the gvt gives you your SSN."
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it be nice if the questions were easy to understand. not everyone has a PhD in english🤦♂️🤣 I got one question wrong and now I gotta wait 39 freaking days
lol and apparently im not allowed to have firearms, for no reason whatsoever, the fbi just doesnt like me i guess!
@@LowEndPCGamer100are you on a watchlist or something?
You only have to wait 30 days if your trying purchase the firearm again from the same store, if you go somewhere else you can try again
What if I went to Cabelas in a different area and I accidentally marked the wrong answer could I go to bass pro closer to home and try again the next day? Even tho the stores are connected?
@keeseeracing0 according to the guy that worked at academy, yes you can.
SDI you are the only one stating it’s ok to still fill out 21 N1 answer and 21N2 leave blank others imply Leave 21N1and 21N2 blank
I did an E-Form4473 wrong today, apparently, but they can't tell you which one, obviously, so I am confused because I followed it how I should have on the qualifier questions.
Thank you so much for this video. I currently don't own a firearm, but I'm glad you made this video so I'll know what to expect, when I make my first purchase. 😊
I understand everything clearly, SIR. Many people appreciate this video, I do. Now I know what to do. You explain everything steps by
step can't miss. i put all my attention on this.
The 1st time I filled it out wrong then the 2ed time I got delayed 4473 is just ass
How long did it take before you could do the 2nd time
Everyone saying you leave 21 M1 blank apparently cannot read instructions as it states on page 5- Question 21.m. Immigration Status: If you are a U.S. citizen/national, it is appropriate to answer "No" to question 21.m.1. and to leave question 21.m.2. blank.
You are not required to get a copy of the drivers license, background check or concealed carry, federally. Your state may require this but not all do. I agree it is a good idea but you made it sound like it is required. Also I use fast bound and I recommend it. It stops you from making all this mistakes.
Definition of US citizen as used on form 4473 is found in Title 5 united states code, a federal citizen. Then go read the Slaughter house court case to see the difference between a US citizen and a State Citizen.
Then ask yourself, am I even required by law to do a background check since the 4473 asks are you either a US citizen or Resident alien individual.
I transfer firearms at Cabela's Some people do not even read the questions all the way through before answering and self deny A lot!!! Also make sure when you get your new Drivers License or CCW they will ask you to check it over for mistakes. Trust me... DO THAT because I see so many mistakes on CCW's and DL's or ID's like names or even streets misspelled or even numbers wrong.
Do I have to use my driver's license or can I just use my state ID
@@Chiraqrefugee3350 both should be fine as long as they have correct address and nothing misspelled
Hi there. I was mistakenly answer wrong this question and got denied.
“Do you intend to sell or dispose of any firearms) listed on this form or any continuation sheets) to any person described in questions 21(b)-(1) or to a person described in question 21.m.1 who does not fall within a nonimmigrant alien exception?” I put “yes”
I know that is my fault but I did not mean it. I have no intention to sell or dispose any firearms to anyone.
At the section 20b: “Do you intend to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm listed on this form and any continuation sheets) in furtherance of any felony or other offense punishable by imprisonment for a term of more than one year, a Federal crime of terrorism, or a drug trafficking offense?” I already answer “NO”. I don’t know why they ask the question 21n again. That is really confused me and therefore I got it wrong. You are right. When I read that question 21n: I understand it this way: (I buy this firearm on this list me myself. I intend to buy this firearm on the list, I do not want to buy anything illegal outside of this list. That’s why I put yes.) Is there a way to fix this? Please help me out. 🙄
Any news?
You need to update that last question the one I filled out i said No and the other question says If you answered “Yes” to question 21.m.1, do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? Am I sappose to leave that question blank since I. Said no to the first question
im so frustrated with it all that im thinking of buying illegally.
It's Not That Hard.
I accidentally filled out my form wrong i did it on a tablet not paper, apparently i clicked yes to a question instead of no and they said i have to wait 30days. Does that time stand for everywhere or just that specific store and i can try somewhere else again?
Me too
@@gloriaison9004 i never tried anything else my 30days was up last week time flys when you dont think of it so i guess part 2😂
Do I answer NO on 21J if my DV conviction has been annulled/expunged in NH?
I might suggest leaving sample forms on the counter of the 4473, then customers can take them home and read them at leisure, especially if they answered the form wrong give them a copy to take home. People are notorious for not reading thoroughly. I know they can get the forms online, but having one in paper in your hands would be a better learning experience for the customer.
I just went into a store to purchase a gun yesterday and explain to them I had a concealed carry permit. I didn’t have to do a background check. They refused and made me fill out the information anyway then they said I missed something and they failed it and told me to come back in 30 days.
Find a different store to buy from.
What happens if you make mistake like filling the wrong box
On a digital form 4473 and is there a waiting period till you can try again or does it completely prevent you from ever buying a firearm again?
It’s digital now
I will be glad when the Supreme Court of the United States decides that form is unconstitutional and we are no longer required to fill it out or keep it on file.
How do you do the 4473 form electronically
its still done at the ffl mine was on a pc i just clicked yes or no and typed in my info they scanned my drivers liscense and a few minutes and i was able to proceed
What if I can't spell in fact I am using voice to text feature to make this comment because I cannot spell very good is there options to help me with this forum because soon I might be getting a gun soon
Does medication like Norco disqualify you from getting a firearm?
If they weren't trying to trip you up the form would be simple," are you a criminal if no here you go
my name is my grandpa's in full and my dad has used our name to hide from the law, so SSN is a must as dad soiled our great name.
Thank you for the helpful video
So in Texas if you have a LTC(License To Carry) do you still have to fill out the form?
Yes
PS I really implore they use SS# on weekends as well as full middle names. I notice A lot more delays and researching on weekends bcuz I believe ATF is really busy and if ya do not give that info THEY have to go get it and I believe that they let those without full middle name and SS# on the form WAIT!!!! Research or delay so please unless you have CCW give your SS# and full middle name.
@@nebbiolo702 NEVER said you HAD to supply SS#. It does keep A LOT of people from going into a delay some days especially on the weekends when NICS is busy AF. But nice try and I hope you take the time to really read my post and understand it next time.
@@nebbiolo702 Apparently not but again nice try. Don't be nervous the form won't hurt you. But on weekends busy times def use SS# IMO and I did thousands of transfers. Using SS# wont hurt you but can def HELP YOU at times. IMO
I don't know how to read. Now what?
Speaking as a customer, I'm truly sorry you have such stupid customers! I've bought...a certain number of...things one buys via FFL stores...and I think the longest wait I've "endured" is 20 minutes. Yes, put in your SSN! Yes, read every question even if you came in the prior day and filled out the same form! I always use the same store and they always point out the relevant sections to fill out and yeah, I'm glad they do! Interesting seeing the seller side.
A form of entrapment.
I Think I Got Denied From That Last Question Because I Marked “No” When I Should’ve Left It Blank , How Soon Can I Try To Purchase again ?
I think question 21 got me denied at bass pro shop
Same here I think your suppose to mark Yes on that
Banned for life at bass pro
My brother accidentally answered question 21 wrong, it was at Bass Pro Shop as well, they arrested him 6 months later, he's doing a year in prison for the false statement.
Good video, BUT!!!!!
Please update your 4473.
Not all states just use your permit. In a lot of states, you still need to use your driver's license. Even you have one.
Typically a 4473 is not a big deal to me. I can read. Not to mention I do a number of these each year (I collect guns). Of interest, I have noted the 4473 has changed over time. (They want to know what race is the purchaser. (Seems race is a big deal now.)
I also note mistakes on the form by whoever does the form. For instance, the race question includes 'white' as a race. There is no white race. Caucasian, yes. No white. Which would not include mestizo.
By the way, all the questions starting "Have you ever been convicted of..." should be 'no' in just about all cases.
Some of the questions seem dumb. Like the above. But answering them wrong puts one in violation of perjury laws.
I'd like to get rid of the 44th seventh history background.And this way , people are going and buy games like they used to back in the bay
I must be a weird one - have never made a mistake on any 4473
Enjoy reading my writing its hieroglyphics, 😂
Broooooo got that last question wrong twice