Which Cartoons Look BETTER in 4:3?

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  • @TheDanTheManShow
    @TheDanTheManShow 7 месяцев назад +438

    Ratio

  • @anactualmotherbear
    @anactualmotherbear 7 месяцев назад +453

    Ah, FINALLY! A RUclipsr learned about the OVERSCAN AREA, one of my major pet peeves where someone says "oh look they forgot to animate at the bottom of the screen!"

    • @SouthernGothicYT
      @SouthernGothicYT 7 месяцев назад +33

      Thanks for sharing the term! I knew there had to be a word for that.

    • @Jade_Bunbun
      @Jade_Bunbun 7 месяцев назад +30

      its weird too cause it happened with older games all the time like the top bottom and sides having weird colors that dont match anything or stuff not loading until its a 1/4 inch away from the sides and you never hear anyone go "wow how lazy", i dont see why cartoons get called lazy for the exact same thing

    • @90sNath
      @90sNath 7 месяцев назад +19

      ​@Jade_Bunbun weird. My irl friends have always noticed this with video games too and keep thinking my hardware is broken until I hook it all up to a CRT

    • @heggy_69
      @heggy_69 6 месяцев назад +6

      I'll start saying that now because I know it annoys at least one person out there thanks

    • @Jade_Bunbun
      @Jade_Bunbun 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@heggy_69 youre already better than most by forewarning people of your intentions

  • @someonestupid9854
    @someonestupid9854 7 месяцев назад +390

    interesting thing about billy and mandy is that the last season was actually produced in widescreen, but only a couple episodes from it are widescreen on max (luckily old hd recordings of the whole season are on internet archive). i honestly think it looks great, we need more shows in hd with thicker outlines.

    • @user-vn4ue
      @user-vn4ue 7 месяцев назад +23

      idk if its on max but there is also the Billy and Mandy movie Big boogie adventure. thats also in widescreen. best the show looked

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood 6 месяцев назад +10

      All of Transformers Animated was produced in 16:9, but it was only shown in cropped 4:3 until years after the series ended. In Japan it was shown in 16:9 by padding the cropped 4:3 picture with static art as they were never given the complete original picture, even as that version of the show sported new animation and film made in 16:9!

    • @TheRobSka
      @TheRobSka 6 месяцев назад +3

      They show some of the last seasons episodes in Widescreen when they air on Checkered Past/Adult Swim.

  • @jjstarA113
    @jjstarA113 7 месяцев назад +245

    Oh my god you are SO right about The Simpsons peaking aesthetically in the 4:3 digital episodes. I wish it could've stayed looking like that into the HD 16:9 era.

    • @noah_farmer
      @noah_farmer 7 месяцев назад +22

      Especially since we know they can replicate that style almost identically as we’ve seen many times in recent seasons with flashbacks

    • @MadPaperMario
      @MadPaperMario 7 месяцев назад +3

      i dont know why but i prefer the digital episodes(season 14-19) to be in widescreen, i just like seeing the characters a bit larger

  • @MrJans3n
    @MrJans3n 7 месяцев назад +126

    My biggest memory of switching to 16:9 is when RUclips first did it, and WalrusGuy made a YTP using the SMW cartoon. He had Luigi throw the football *into* the black area on the sides and it blew my mind.

    • @MrSkerpentine
      @MrSkerpentine 7 месяцев назад +11

      It’s like the few times they used that as a joke on Homestar Runner (both in sbemails, virus and the 100 sbemail special)

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter 6 месяцев назад +2

      Or RocketJump breaking the black bars. That was crazy

    • @FLYNN_TAGGART
      @FLYNN_TAGGART 6 месяцев назад +5

      Actually, it was a stone. He didn't make it.

    • @MrJans3n
      @MrJans3n 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@FLYNN_TAGGART It's a football, he chiseled it!

  • @EnigmaticGentleman
    @EnigmaticGentleman 7 месяцев назад +139

    I just feel like cartoons lend themselves really well to widescreen. Those beautiful backgrounds were always begging for the extra real estate even if not much is going on there.

  • @RosiYYAP
    @RosiYYAP 7 месяцев назад +148

    I've been watching Kim Possible lately and seeing it in 4:3 was so weird because everything was animated in the "safe zone" making for some really odd looking scenes where characters are surrounded by a ton of dead or redundant space, especially earlier on in its run

    • @RatzaChewy
      @RatzaChewy 7 месяцев назад +15

      Welcome to British TV - we had SD widescreen from 1998 and it became popular around 2001/2002, but it was only available for Digital TV viewers. So nearly everything was made in 16:9 but formatted for 4:3 for well over a decade.

    • @BasicRock123
      @BasicRock123 7 месяцев назад +3

      This is true with the HD remastered seasons of South Park. The boys stand awkwardly centered at the bus stop in the episodes.

    • @FigureFarter
      @FigureFarter 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BasicRock123Season 11 was cropped however, the Guitar Hero gameplay scenes fill the whole screen

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 6 месяцев назад +5

      That's called "shoot to protect" and was a plague on the entertainment industry for decades. From the 1980s when content was starting to be made with home video releases in mind all the way to the widescreen standardization in the late 2000s, everyone had to consider that a majority of the viewing audience will watch whatever is made in 4:3. Movies, shows, video games and anything else on a screen could be shot in 16:9, but all the crucial visual information was viewable within the 4:3 field, which leads to said empty space in its original format that becomes the de facto version in remasters.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 24 дня назад +1

      @@RatzaChewyI have a weird nostalgia for that late-90s early-00s era of UK production, even though nothing really happens in the edges of the screen it’s nice to see more of the set-dressing and background extras. Plus of course I can safely zoom it in on an iPad 😅

  • @NattiNekoMaid
    @NattiNekoMaid 7 месяцев назад +50

    The fact that youtube now supports a variety of aspect ratios makes it an ideal platform for watching 4:3 content IMO. Like when watching outside of fullscreen you get more of the video in 4:3 and it just feels... right when content tries to play with the aspect ratio

  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 7 месяцев назад +138

    If I can chime in, Family Guy works really well in 4:3 because the focus isn't on the environment around them (most of the time), but what they're doing. Trimming down the sides to fit SD television provides a comfortable viewing experience where your eyes don't have to dart *that* far from side to side so you can comprehensive what's happening.
    Might just be old Family Guy being better, though.

    • @AarturoSc
      @AarturoSc 7 месяцев назад +11

      Plus, there’s less space for us to see those inert background characters they always have.

    • @T.R.J.2009
      @T.R.J.2009 5 месяцев назад

      Agreed.

  • @alexandercolefield9523
    @alexandercolefield9523 7 месяцев назад +24

    What I find interesting is that for widescreen shows that were broadcasted into standard, they had to deliberately pan and scan the episodes. So that means there is an entire subclass of lost media for altered widescreen to 4:3 tv shows which doesn't get a lot of notice.

  • @DesperateHornet
    @DesperateHornet 7 месяцев назад +32

    I kind of can't imagine Gym Partner being in any other aspect ratio, that show is so colourful and maximalist that any LESS space than they already have would've completely cramped the show up, imo

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga 7 месяцев назад +194

    You know I never really paid attention to the aspect ratio of shows I watch, but looking back it sort of fascinating knowing it was partially the reason why some shows had to majorly change to fit in with the times.

    • @AJPierson
      @AJPierson 7 месяцев назад +15

      Imagine my surprise when I found out What's New Scooby doo was produced in wide-screen.

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 7 месяцев назад +76

    Once Spongebob had a great gag with aspect ratio. It was in one of my favorite episodes Drive Happy. In that one, Spongebob got a self-driving boat. The boat wouldn't let Spongebob go to work and kept forcing Spongebob to do whatever it wanted to do and he had to fight the boat. There was one scene where he drives it into an elevator and the aspect ratio changes to 4:3 because they are cramped in the elevator.

    • @okjeffy6581
      @okjeffy6581 7 месяцев назад +3

      I don’t remember that scene…

    • @QuikVidGuy
      @QuikVidGuy 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@okjeffy6581 It was really hyper-realistic

    • @zkoopa4445
      @zkoopa4445 6 месяцев назад +3

      There was also an episode of the Patrick Star Show that came out last year that actually references aspect ratios, in Drive Happy it was really just because SpongeBob and Coupe (ya I remember the name) were in a tight space. But in the Patrick Show episode there was a full scene showing meat people which was in 4:3

  • @brianpbillingsley3687
    @brianpbillingsley3687 7 месяцев назад +20

    Justice League came out in 2001 and was produced in widescreen. So when it came to Blu-ray it translated beautifully. 👌🏾

  • @ArtieRaccoonReviews
    @ArtieRaccoonReviews 7 месяцев назад +26

    Disney Channel and Cartoon Network adopted the 16:9 widescreen format early on in the mid 2000's, meanwhile it took Nickelodeon until *2012* to finally start producing (animated) shows in 16:9 for some reason.

    • @Spacething7474
      @Spacething7474 7 месяцев назад +7

      they shouldve waited at least half a decade more to jump into it, just to be funny

    • @okjeffy6581
      @okjeffy6581 7 месяцев назад +4

      Even it’s Canadian cousin YTV started producing shows in 16:9 starting in like 2006. I kinda didn’t understand what Nick was doing here.

    • @Spacething7474
      @Spacething7474 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@okjeffy6581 being better than the competition of course
      ironically nick was doing live action shows in widescreen before disney and cartoon network did so they lose a point there

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood 6 месяцев назад +4

      That reminds me of when Super Sentai switched to 16:9 but Disney refused to change Power Rangers along with it, so we ended up with a few Rangers seasons full of awkwardly cropped or squashed action shots.

    • @Spacething7474
      @Spacething7474 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@BagOfMagicFood power rangers shouldve never made the jump to 16:9 just for how hilariously awkward that sounds

  • @essnstuffs9940
    @essnstuffs9940 7 месяцев назад +58

    The fact that Season 1 of Johnny Test in 16:9 is lost media fucks me up hard man I wanna see it 😭

    • @ToonyTails
      @ToonyTails 7 месяцев назад +6

      What? How is that possible?

    • @epicboyo4883
      @epicboyo4883 7 месяцев назад +13

      @@ToonyTails After season 2, Teletoon gained full rights to the show. So distribution of season 1 in widescreen could cause some legal issues.

  • @natey_TV
    @natey_TV 7 месяцев назад +15

    It still feels awkward to me watching a show that was clearly framed for a 4:3 aspect ration but shown it widescreen, so you end up with everything squished into the middle, or worse, you see the Dewey stand-in from Malcolm in the Middle

  • @mesousagaby740
    @mesousagaby740 7 месяцев назад +26

    Oh, and to add to the weirdness of the CN Invaded episodes, the Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends episode of it is in HD because the last two seasons of that series switched to 16:9. Billy and Mandy's last season was also awkwardly switched to HD starting with the Big Boogie Adventure movie. But then Wrath Of The Spider Queen wasn't produced in HD because it was made BEFORE BBA, IIRC.

    • @scoopypoopy5784
      @scoopypoopy5784 7 месяцев назад +3

      The last season of Billy and Mandy was in widescreen since the beginning and wrath of the spider queen is also in hd widescreen

  • @Kneevirus
    @Kneevirus 7 месяцев назад +10

    Season 6 of Billy and mandy was actually produced in widescreen and there are some hd widescreen versions of the episodes

  • @SouprSpookr
    @SouprSpookr 7 месяцев назад +53

    This was a really interesting video! I definitely think there’s a lot to be said about that middle era where stuff was being produced in 16:9 but broadcast in 4:3 and how it worked well for some shows and others are better in 16:9. I’d love to potentially see another video like this about cel animation vs digital animation. Cel animation has always felt more cozy to me but digital animation allows them to be a lot more ambitious, so I think that could make for a cool discussion

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy 7 месяцев назад +2

      I don't really pay much attention with 2D animation (cel or digital). Well... outside of one being more fuzzy and rough, while the other being so clean and higher quality.
      They both are still golden.

  • @tazelwurm4968
    @tazelwurm4968 6 месяцев назад +6

    Less about aspect ratio specifically, more about the whole HD vs SD thing, but here's a fun fact from a specific cartoon fandom: So, a lot of Flash and other vector animated cartoons, even ones that were broadcasted in SD 4:3, eventually got HD releases on streaming platforms and such, like South Park. Well for the longest time now, Total Drama fans have been in fucking poverty trying to get season 3 - and ONLY season 3 - in a higher quality. Every other season had full HD releases, but not World Tour, for some reason. Pretty recently it shadow dropped in HD on some super obscure streaming app, and now the fandom is having to pass around the screen recorded mp4s like prison cigarettes.

  • @mayragearchives2462
    @mayragearchives2462 7 месяцев назад +11

    Slight correction for at around 3:19, Foster's Home and Billy and Mandy actually were produced in HD widescreen by the time they did the "Invaded" episodes with Foster's starting in season 5 and Billy and Mandy starting in season 6.

  • @thecluckster3908
    @thecluckster3908 7 месяцев назад +10

    I like the box aspect ratio, it separates the now from the then. As someone who grow up literally as the switch was being made from box to rectangle, it reminds me of a simpler time.

  • @niajerome7514
    @niajerome7514 7 месяцев назад +30

    I’ve never really thought about the aspect ratio of a show, but after watching this vid I can def understand how it being changed could have an effect on someone’s enjoyment. Thank you for all of your hard work, not only on this vid but for everything you’ve done this year! Also happy birthday again! I hope you’ve been enjoying your day!

  • @Notester82
    @Notester82 7 месяцев назад +19

    Mentioning how older TVs' edges would cover parts of the screen and justify animators not drawing in those sections also made me think of that one scene in the Spongebob episode "Dying For Pie" where it looks like the bottom of Mr. Krabs' legs are missing, perhaps that's what was happening this whole time, heh! But yeah, nice overview on aspect ratios!
    Also happy birthday, Tariq! c:

  • @user-vn4ue
    @user-vn4ue 7 месяцев назад +11

    Billy and Mandy eventually got episodes in widescreen later on the shows run. Foster's Home for imaginary friends also. Cartoon Network was ahead of Nickelodeon when producing HD cartoons. i remember it was 2012 and SpongeBob finally switched to HD besides that Truth or square special.

    • @okjeffy6581
      @okjeffy6581 7 месяцев назад +2

      And Disney was ahead of CN.

    • @user-vn4ue
      @user-vn4ue 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@okjeffy6581 Yeah i think Disney started doing HD in 1999

  • @siennahoward6957
    @siennahoward6957 7 месяцев назад +9

    This video is very interesting but Another interesting topic that I don't see a whole lot of cartoon commenters cover is traditional animation. There's just something so nostalgic about old cartoons and how they used to look. I have always had an appreciation for hand drawn cartoons because you can tell that they just put so much effort into the animation. Everything was hand drawn and traced over and over on paper. I love almost every form of animation, but there's just something so simplistic yet so genius about traditional animation.

  • @maikol4128
    @maikol4128 7 месяцев назад +20

    Part of me does want to give that Cuphead show a pass on its usage of widescreen just because the game it's adapting also chose to present itself in that aspect ratio, and made incredible use of all that space with its giant boss animations. That said, I feel like that choice might've been more for gameplay than aesthetic reasons, since the game otherwise goes so out of its way to emulate the vibe of those 1930s Fleischer shorts. Being free of those gameplay considerations, you would think the Netflix adaptation would make the switch to 4:3. Kind of a shame tbh

    • @jarrickhillery8664
      @jarrickhillery8664 7 месяцев назад +3

      I just imagined the Cuphead game in 4:3 and that’d be unplayably difficult

    • @Technilogica2019
      @Technilogica2019 6 месяцев назад +3

      i also feel like the animation as a whole feels very different to the game. i understand why, but if spongebob can still feel like it was drawn rather than using puppets (i believe it still is?) then there's no reason cuphead should feel so.. stilted. even if they do use puppets, i'd at least want to have a harder time sensing it. so much about it just feels like they took a modern cartoon and slapped a filter over it.. which is exactly what they did

  • @JamesQPurcell
    @JamesQPurcell 7 месяцев назад +14

    When Venture Brothers started it was 4:3, and every episode started with a letterboxed 16:10 widescreen sequence to imply a high production cinematic adventure was about to begin. But after the opening credits the series would go into its usual 4:3 ratio. When the series went 16:9 with Season 3, this effect was lost. And honestly, I kind of missed it.

    • @KamenSentaiMetalHero
      @KamenSentaiMetalHero 5 месяцев назад

      I prefer the 16:9. It made the episodes feel more expansive and cinematic.

  • @juno199x_
    @juno199x_ 7 месяцев назад +4

    one really really interesting tidbit that i thought was interesting about family guy is how Back to the Pilot almost exclusively uses an 4:3 for all of the older scenes and it switches back to 16:9 and fourth though-out the episode when they go to the past and future

    • @ToonrificTariq
      @ToonrificTariq  7 месяцев назад +5

      Ahh, I should’ve brought this up! Good catch!

  • @etheweirdo_art
    @etheweirdo_art 7 месяцев назад +7

    Aspect ratio was always one thing I probably thought about way more than I should've personally. I was always on the side of just like, things should be in whatever aspect ratio they started in, but I see a lot of things really experiment with it in a way that really can only be done in that way. I think off the top of my head the best example is The Grand Budapest Hotel, which does the thing of having the aspect ratios signify the era that the events were taking back in. I think what makes it so noteworthy is how seamless and natural it ends up feeling. It doesn't ever draw attention to it and it ends up almost becoming a back of the mind thing as it swaps between many different events. It always stuck with me for sure. Honestly makes me want to make some animation to mess about with aspect ratio some day.

  • @Dairunt1
    @Dairunt1 7 месяцев назад +2

    Back in my day, flashbacks were in black and white. I've seen a movie trend where flashbacks are now in 4:3.

  • @wespapes2054
    @wespapes2054 7 месяцев назад +25

    I guess I don't really think about 4:3 aspect ratio, but I do notice it in movies. It happened during Oppenheimer, and it was obvious when they would change the aspect ratio. If you notice that as well, watch that 5th Transformers movie. The aspect ratio changes, I'm not kidding, every shot. It'll give you a headache.

    • @tyjuarez
      @tyjuarez 7 месяцев назад +3

      I saw oppenheimer in imax, and those scenes where the picture went from being widescreen to being full on floor-to-ceiling went crazy.

    • @BagOfMagicFood
      @BagOfMagicFood 6 месяцев назад +2

      Do Imax movies in general change the aspect ratio frequently? I haven't really gotten to see any.

    • @tyjuarez
      @tyjuarez 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BagOfMagicFood It's usually used for a few landscape shots per scene, with a handful of scenes being mostly IMAX. The Blu-Ray for Dunkirk does expand the screen to 1.78:1 during IMAX scenes, and that's a good example of a film that uses a lot of IMAX.

  • @Mellojoseph
    @Mellojoseph 7 месяцев назад +8

    Something that always surprised me was how King of The Hill always stayed in 4:3, obviously the show will be in 16:9 for the reboot, but looking at king of the hill animated in widescreen (which we have seen in family guy) almost looks jarring

  • @Dovendraw
    @Dovendraw 7 месяцев назад +5

    Watching old cartoons on an iPad is great since the 4:3 aspect ratio nearly fits the entire screen, can't recommend enough 👍

  • @haystacks6181
    @haystacks6181 7 месяцев назад +4

    I just had to stop this a few minutes in to say thaaaank yoooouuu for sheding light on a topic like this. It's cool to hear people talking about the technical kinda side of animation like this insteada just talking about the art or writing and whatever

  • @stump5228
    @stump5228 7 месяцев назад +60

    3:20 Billy and Mandy and Foster's actually switched to 16:9 by this point. The reason why shows like Ed, Edd n Eddy stayed in 4:3 is only because they were made on a different studios instead of usual CN Studio

  • @walpoleandworcester
    @walpoleandworcester 7 месяцев назад +9

    I was watching a Nicktendo video today and he mentioned how there were Kids WB shows already made for HD then. Nice to see a video on aspect ratio tonight with these cartoons.

  • @theNerdifacation
    @theNerdifacation 7 месяцев назад +7

    Im a real stickler for aspect ratio. I’m happy to see it covered by someone as talented as yourself. I also love when a show or movie can play with aspect ratio in an interesting way

  • @aidztube8928
    @aidztube8928 7 месяцев назад +13

    You're telling me after rewatching Simpsons seasons 1-8 about 5 times on Disney+, that there was an option to switch to classic aspect ratio for the past 3.5 years?!?!?

    • @alysssabear
      @alysssabear 7 месяцев назад

      Nah cuz WHY DIDNT ANYBODY TELL ME

    • @ToonrificTariq
      @ToonrificTariq  7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh my gosh 😭😭😭 I am sooo sorry.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 7 месяцев назад +1

      NOTE: This doesn't affect any other shows sadly, so Goof Troop, Rescue Rangers, Little Mermaid (Animated Series) and Super Robot Monkey Team (was originally in widescreen, unlike the rest) are all in the wrong aspect ratios.

  • @laotasurfs1110
    @laotasurfs1110 7 месяцев назад +10

    I personally believe Futurama works better the bigger the picture is because, like Disenchanted, the world it takes place in is the main character.
    Springfield is definitely *a* character in the Simpsons, but it's more about a family in a satirical-yet-recognizable world. You can have the Simpsons go to the past or future and leave Springfield and even the earth, and they're still the Simpsons. Futurama is set in the far-flung future and that is the most important thing in the story. You wanna see as much of that weird, wonderful world as possible.

  • @TheRandomPosterTRP
    @TheRandomPosterTRP 7 месяцев назад +7

    This video is making me want to look into the Powerpuff Girls original series and see if it ever got an HD remaster, for the series and the movie

  • @leechnerd
    @leechnerd 6 месяцев назад +2

    even though this show isnt a caroon, theres one I really wanna see in 4:3, and thats Breaking Bad. Season 1 released before analog was changed, and season 2 was dropping when 16:9 was getting wide-spread. People had definitely watched it in the classic tv aspect ratio, but I cant find any recordings. It wasnt anything special, just cropped shots, but that alone has always been interesting. Sometimes I even download clips from the show and edit them into 4:3 to see what they would look like. Id love to see what a lot of shows in general would look in their non-native aspect ratios, like the sopranos in 4:3 or early spongebob in 16:9. love this video, really made me think more

  • @maxresdefault_
    @maxresdefault_ 7 месяцев назад +5

    I'd love a CRT in my room. I grew up with CRTs and I mostly watch 90s cartoons when I go to bed, (Simpsons, Evangelion, Daria, Batman TAS, etc). Watching those on a classic 4:3 TV sounds so cozy!

  • @NIGEL341Hilasd
    @NIGEL341Hilasd 7 месяцев назад +3

    Excellent vid and I never knew that about animation from before 2009! That’s crazy how they just leave stuff undone below the screen and now widescreen exposes it

  • @blackguyofthesouth2161
    @blackguyofthesouth2161 7 месяцев назад +4

    Yea, the And Then There were Fewer episode was definitely them showing off. Especially how they did a whole POV shot of the mansion

  • @madsceptictrooper6803
    @madsceptictrooper6803 7 месяцев назад +5

    An animated show that, in my opinion, should be watched in 4:3 aspect ratio is the 2003 TMNT series because that show has scenes where aspect ration changes to 16:9 or even 2.39:1.
    Those aspect ratio changing scenes would lose their authencity if the show is watched in widescreen aspect ratios.

  • @channel_shi
    @channel_shi 7 месяцев назад +5

    great video! i am personally a fan of whenever squarish aspect ratios are used in newer productions; what little i saw of the snyder cut made me learn that i'm quite a fan of extra vertical real estate (and naturally, i went all the way to nyc to watch oppenheimer in full frame imax). as for cartoons, my beef with aspect ratios simply comes in if i'm not able to view it in the original one it was produced in. i spoke about this at length a while ago re: house of mouse/mouseworks, but that one's a doozy cuz a few shorts were inked on cels and produced in 4:3, but everything else is 16:9 digital. the og mouseworks episodes were all on 4:3 tapes, but house of mouse episodes were in 16:9. this'd be fine but they cropped the cel-animated episodes (you can even see they're film scans, which makes it disconcertingly similar to stuff like the garfield and friends remasters from *twenty+ years later*), and then all of the US airings are 4:3 crops again!
    funny thing, i actually read something by gene deitch (rip) regarding his time at terrytoons. 20th century fox wanted shorts in cinemascope, and it turned out to be really hard to do this, especially since parent company cbs wanted a 4:3 safe area to broadcast the shorts in. in the end, he said only a few of the shorts really took advantage of the extra horizontal real estate. idk if he specified which, but i imagine one of them is *it's a living* starring dinky duck, which does a whole aspect ratio change like it's a wes anderson film or something.

  • @spin08
    @spin08 7 месяцев назад +7

    Honestly, I think it depends on the direction of how the creators want their show to be shown. I remember watching an ep of My Adventures with Superman and they had a flashback scene that used 4:3 to show some old shit. I'm personally gon be nostalgic for 4:3 presentation cause that was how I first saw the shows I'd grow up watching but I don't mind letterbox and 16:9 if it isn't forcibly cropped like most of the Dragon Ball DVDs. Love your videos dude and I wish you well!

  • @EmployeeAMillion
    @EmployeeAMillion 7 месяцев назад +3

    Someone asked me to make a video about this topic a year or two ago, but now that you’ve done it, that’s less work for me. 👍

  • @adamkaunfer4384
    @adamkaunfer4384 7 месяцев назад +6

    So many Disney and WB cartoons in the mid-2000s aired in 4:3, when they started being made accessible in HD, it was like a revelation.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 7 месяцев назад +1

      I can't even find some My Gym Partner's a Monkey episodes in widescreen! Also for whatever reason Disney + refuses to put Rescue Rangers, Goof Troop, The Little Mermaid (Animated Seires) and Super Robot Monkey Team in their proper aspect ratios.

    • @bigglou
      @bigglou 6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the heads up. Glad I finally decided to buy the DVDs before Best Buy removed them.@@YujiUedaFan

  • @abandonedacc
    @abandonedacc 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's crazy how extending the borders of a video could impact it so much

  • @NJdaniels96
    @NJdaniels96 7 месяцев назад +5

    Personally I prefer 4:3 because it allows for denser and more intimate compositions. You can pack a lot of things onto the screen, do a close-up shot, or isolate a subject in a way that's a lot more difficult to do in 16:9. A lot of compositions in 16:9 can end up with a lot of unused space on the sides that create a feeling of separation between the viewer and the show.

  • @ClareHehe
    @ClareHehe 7 месяцев назад +1

    i love you videos so much. the music choice. your humor. it is just the best i've seen.

  • @tyjuarez
    @tyjuarez 7 месяцев назад +3

    From what I've heard, Cartoon Network shows that were produced in 16:9 had a 4:3 "Safe Zone" until about 2016.

  • @fusetunes
    @fusetunes 7 месяцев назад +4

    this is such an interesting topic, thanks for giving animation fans so much great content! (also i helped remaster the short at 8:51!)

    • @baerenonkel
      @baerenonkel 4 месяца назад

      Flip the Frog, 2-strip technicolor?

  • @nekkawaii
    @nekkawaii 7 месяцев назад +2

    An unspoken thing I love about 4:3 when producing even stuff for RUclips is that you have to worry less about filling things around the frame, which by extension lets you as a viewer focus on whatever's in the center instead of the environment.

  • @zacharyspaghetti6988
    @zacharyspaghetti6988 5 месяцев назад +2

    I’ve always felt that aspect ratio plays a huge role in how you perceive and respond to any piece of media emotionally. It can seriously completely change the vibe of something. For example, when full screen DVDs were still a thing, watching spider-man 2002 in widescreen and then in 4:3 changes everything for me. It’s a brand new experience. Aspect ratio is overlooked way too much and it’s honestly an integral part of media.

  • @koloco5638
    @koloco5638 7 месяцев назад

    Glad you uploaded this gon be fye

  • @MagicalStarr
    @MagicalStarr 7 месяцев назад +22

    I have a quick question: where did you get all of your footage from when it comes to cartoons?
    Love your videos and keep up the amazing work 🎉

  • @ArtieRaccoonReviews
    @ArtieRaccoonReviews 7 месяцев назад +9

    As long as episodes of shows originally produced in 4:3 aren't stretched/cropped to widescreen is all the matters. It's an ugly, blurry, and pixelated mess and should instead be presented the way it was made.

  • @zOOpygOOpert
    @zOOpygOOpert 7 месяцев назад

    I love your videos, and your editing is very simple (in a good way)

  • @kodakbmw
    @kodakbmw 7 месяцев назад +1

    Happy New Year Tariq God Bless You Brother!

  • @kitzen1795
    @kitzen1795 7 месяцев назад

    ayooo your hyperfixation just hit all the beats of my hyper fixation on the topic. like I dont think you missed a single thing.
    also hella enjoyed the editing in this, keep up the good work!

  • @PogieJoe
    @PogieJoe 7 месяцев назад

    Happy New Year, Tariq!

  • @BryQ1030
    @BryQ1030 7 месяцев назад +1

    I grew up on late night nick toons and three delievery was such a huge part of that lmao its funny it was referenced in this episode of toonrifictariq

  • @therealmachine08
    @therealmachine08 6 месяцев назад +2

    I was born in the funky time when 4:3 where just starting to fade out.
    I saw widescreen more often, but I did see a bunch of 4:3.

  • @cfan6716
    @cfan6716 7 месяцев назад +1

    I saw Tamika in the thumbnail! Ngl, you always put out good videos…😂❤

  • @silentsigher
    @silentsigher 7 месяцев назад +1

    Happy Birthday ToonrificTariq

  • @emptyspotlight
    @emptyspotlight 7 месяцев назад +2

    One of the things that really annoys me is that certain shows on Disney Plus are cropped to 16:9 without an option for the original resolution

  • @patricklauer4452
    @patricklauer4452 7 месяцев назад +3

    As someone who’s been binging South Park with my friend for the past few months I’ve been thinking about aspect ratio a lot lately great vid

    • @nathansmith8883
      @nathansmith8883 6 месяцев назад

      I been watching a lot of south park lately and I found it weird that even the older sessions where 16:9. It reminds me of pixar because they use to move objects in the scene around to fit for 4:3.

    • @baerenonkel
      @baerenonkel 4 месяца назад

      The old seasons also feel weird looking so clean. I grew up with the slightly grimy, videotape sourced versions and that just fit the tone. I wish they'd give us the option.

  • @amicus9450
    @amicus9450 7 месяцев назад +2

    An interesting thing is that Japanese public TV station NHK has actually been playing around with aspect ratios since the mid 90s and that there's still recordings of those HD masters out there (hell some of them have even been re-released on streaming using widescreen masters, while the DVD releases use 4:3 ones).

    • @amicus9450
      @amicus9450 7 месяцев назад +2

      Admittedly the DVDs are (imo) the better experience for some of these 90s shows since they were primarily cel animated, but it's still neat that even back then, HDTV was being used on some level

  • @sammyruntz
    @sammyruntz 7 месяцев назад +7

    I love this topic, but it mostly raised the question for me, where is Tariq getting these HD, widescreen clips of Gym Partner? I've wanted to go back to those mid 2000s CN shows and watch them in good quality, but I don't know where to find them.

    • @brickhead9111
      @brickhead9111 7 месяцев назад +5

      He got them from the Boomerang Streaming Service which has every episode of Gym Partner in HD aside from the three 22 minute specials made for Season 4.

  • @samcandles
    @samcandles 6 месяцев назад

    I love your editing style

  • @brickhead9111
    @brickhead9111 7 месяцев назад +12

    This is the third time this week that I’ve seen a video essay about tv shows that were produced in 16:9 but aired in 4:3 during the early 2000’s. Love the somewhat niche topic here and great video as always! Also Gym Partner’s a Monkey rocks in its original format and the HD makes the far funnier later episodes (Season’s 3 and 4) even better. More people should definitely give those eps a chance.

  • @CubeAtlantic
    @CubeAtlantic 7 месяцев назад

    i never even analyzed the format or something interconnected but that boosted up good nostalgia broski :D

  • @T9C1PSayWha
    @T9C1PSayWha 7 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a simple man. I see ToonarificTariq, I click.

  • @wutshii
    @wutshii 7 месяцев назад +2

    Class of 3000 MENTIONED YEAHHH

  • @QueenBeeTheOG
    @QueenBeeTheOG 7 месяцев назад

    A Toonrific Tariq upload?! Merry Christmas to us!

  • @Tman64DD
    @Tman64DD 7 месяцев назад

    Great video, and the thumbnail goes hard

  • @standoidontwantalastname6500
    @standoidontwantalastname6500 7 месяцев назад +2

    you failed to mention that foster's did switch to widescreen hd in the fifth season, starting with the invaded special

  • @wardogdauwdd3020
    @wardogdauwdd3020 6 месяцев назад

    Im working on my own cel animation and this video surprisingly helps me alot

  • @Thot_Patrol_USA
    @Thot_Patrol_USA 7 месяцев назад +3

    8:52 to be fair, most of them didn’t have color either. unless it was a singing short (silly symphonies or merrie melodies) there weren’t too many cartoons that had a lot of color because it was VERY expensive back then. If you want a truly 1930s accurate cuphead show, record the episode, make it black and white, worsen the audio quality, 4:3 ratio, and add some blackface

  • @cuban_linxx
    @cuban_linxx 7 месяцев назад

    Happy Birthday Tariq‼️🎈🎈

  • @Twin0246
    @Twin0246 7 месяцев назад +2

    My brother liked threes delivery

  • @Chris.Batchelor
    @Chris.Batchelor 7 месяцев назад +2

    The South Park thing is so weird but honestly really cool to me. I love seeing the old episodes in the 16:9 format and comparing them, but you can definitely tell in some shots when it wasn’t planned because there is so much wasted space. The Hanky shot was the perfect example lol. Bro took up the entire middle and then it was just extra space.

  • @MightyMewtron
    @MightyMewtron 3 месяца назад

    One good thing about growing older is realizing all the little details that endeared you to the style of your favorite shows. I didn't even know what aspect ratio really was before college but it's really something an artist has to adapt to and it's cool seeing comparisons to understand the benefits of both formats.

  • @DoctorNostalgia
    @DoctorNostalgia 7 месяцев назад +1

    🔥 Fire video. Never really thought deeply about something as trivial as aspect ratios before. Genius lol. Puttin in out in the universe from now, we gonna work together one day. 📈

  • @eggmoe23
    @eggmoe23 7 месяцев назад

    Hqppy Birthday Tariq!!

    • @eggmoe23
      @eggmoe23 7 месяцев назад

      Happy* fuck

  • @Hulk1566
    @Hulk1566 7 месяцев назад

    Happy Birthday Toonrific Tariq

  • @johncrowbatty2000
    @johncrowbatty2000 7 месяцев назад

    I really like the concept of this video

  • @Elvusmiw
    @Elvusmiw 7 месяцев назад +1

    As usual the topic slaps.

  • @chrisfratz
    @chrisfratz 7 месяцев назад +9

    Honestly when it comes to The Simpsons I go a step further and say that even the 4:3 version of Disney Plus sucks. Because in an attempt to try and upscale the show to HD, they ended up giving it this waxy appearance that just looks gross in my opinion. I think the best way to watch The Simpsons is with the original DVD box sets.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 7 месяцев назад +1

      It's because they upscaled the DVD prints; super noticeable in far away shots (you can see the antialiasing).

  • @RomanceRoach
    @RomanceRoach 7 месяцев назад +3

    Dawg it’s almost 2024 but don’t worry you still got one more day to drop Daria lmao jkjkjk

  • @godhimself1128
    @godhimself1128 7 месяцев назад +3

    10:23 not a cartoon but the Schneider cut of justice league was exactly that and me and dad (who forced me to watch it) were SNOOZING by the end holy shit

  • @SouthernGothicYT
    @SouthernGothicYT 7 месяцев назад +2

    i kinda miss the 4:3 aspect ratio. That and the big, bulky TVs that would crackle with static electricity when you turn it on. God i miss the 2000s

  • @ToonyTails
    @ToonyTails 7 месяцев назад +4

    (Long comment Warning)
    Ok weird tangent that I don’t know if it fits into the topic of this video but you know the SpongeBob special “Truth or Square” and the Fairly Odd Parents special(s) “Wishology”? Those episodes specific episodes were produced AND aired in 16:9. Which is cool. But the episodes after that point (until season 9 in both shows coincidentally) went back to 4:3. I don’t understand why they went to 16:9 for ONE episode (or 3 in FOP’s case). Waited a few years and then went BACK to 16:9 permanently. What’s even weirder is that while “Truth or Square” is still aired in the original 16:9 format. Meanwhile the version of Wishology (apart from part 1 for some reason) that NickToons chose air are letterboxed… despite the fact that they were produced in 16:9 and the fact that widescreen is now the standard. This also applies to the version on Paramount + and now even part 1 is letterboxed! Why?! This makes the OG 16:9 versions of those episodes REALLY hard to find in a decent quality.

    • @okjeffy6581
      @okjeffy6581 7 месяцев назад +1

      Strangely, I watched “The Stop Motion Spongebob Christmas special In 2021 on YTV and it was letterboxed for some reason.

    • @ToonyTails
      @ToonyTails 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@okjeffy6581 Yeah that one’s also weird.

  • @JoJo-oc8zf
    @JoJo-oc8zf 7 месяцев назад +4

    Related but I hate how FX stretches and crops in old Simpsons episodes just to fit widescreen even though just having the black bars would be 10x better

  • @licketysplitz4241
    @licketysplitz4241 7 месяцев назад +5

    This is only semi-related but y'know what else fucks up the viewing experience of old cartoons? Interpolation. I was watching Bon-Voyage Charlie Brown and the network decided it was a good idea to interpolate it to at least 2x the original framerate. It was fucking disgusting 😭especially since the messier linework of old Charlie Brown specials makes the artificial frame bumping 10x more noticeable.

  • @TheActualCathal
    @TheActualCathal 6 месяцев назад +1

    One thing about the simpsons widescreen crop is that the 4:3 version still has thin black bars at top and bottom of the screen, so you do really feel like it's a little too small on your screen because it actually is. When I showed my flatmate he could watch it in 4:3 he initially objected. I think the fact that he didn't change it back to widescreen is more out of laziness about looking for the button than any actual preference.