Rode about 45 miles behind 611 around 1985. Looked her over for about an hour as she took on coal and water while the crew had lunch. What a magnificent machine! Both the beauty AND the beast.
Interesting reply, because 611 reminds me a helluva lot of my Mother in Law: Weighs over 300 tonnes, has enough power to pull down a house and is loud enough that you can hear her from across town if she's going uphill.
The wheel slip is in my opinion one of the best parts about trains. Because it shows you the power of the engine in a brief second . Also probably because of the polar express frozen ice scene.
611 does it a lot too. I've noticed this engine doesn't like switches, and will predictably slip on encountering a switch at low speeds. Here they had parked on top of one, and had to bunch up slack and take a rolling start at it.
@@hehe-IgoBRRRR at first I was like "yeah, tf is this dude trolling?" But then I remembered some locomotives have steel bands around the wheels called tires.
Wow these old steam locomotives are truly amazing, they seem almost alive, like huge living and breathing monsters. I can only imagine what an event traveling by train must have been in the old days
I love the sound of a steam loco getting up to speed. The initial puffs of steam bursting through, and each beat and pulse of the engine getting quicker and closer together. Just really adds a sense of occasion I think.
@Bill Williams , Dr. Demming said the root cause was the preoccupation of USA upper management with quarterly profits and that same management believing that an outlook of 2 years was long range planning.
They are truly amazing and it is great that so many organizations are restoring and maintaining these machines for future generations to see. Now that the BigBoy is out in the public more people are being introduced to trains and steam in particular and I can only hope that equates to more interest in train travel, train logistics and even model trains.
@@sydspoak6754 Yeah Steam was the technology of the time and what they did to maximize these machines was awesome. But yes, the newer locomotives provides more durability, easier on resources and the cost to maintain is significantly less. Heck, there are diesel locomotives still in revenue operation that were built 50's and early 60's...granted they likely had mods since the original build but they are still around working hard.
@Bill Williams Let's for one second give the other side of the argument the benefit of the doubt. I am though also for quality over quantity. But isn't the fact that these kind of machines are so incredibly well built, a sign of over-panning? And that they did not take into account that new technology would make things more efficient and outproduce over-planned craftmanship? In spite of this, i also like well-built and quality industrial solutions, because over time, it makes the best use of limited resources, and also gives people psychological boost and safety. It lifts the community when you know that someone gave a damn when they did something, and it makes you want to learn more about it. You don't exactly feel like learning about "made in China" crap.
I _adore_ the wheel slip. You think steam engines, you think torque, but we tend to forget sometimes that these are also precision machines, the absolute peak of the tech of their day, and they have more than _just_ tremendous brute force. They have _insane_ power, and yet the ability to apply that power _just so._
They are like tame dragons - sensational. The whistle is more like a big ship's foghorn. You would hear that for miles. One of the most beautiful steam locos of all time.
I remember when I was young my house was close to the railroad. And once in awhile this train would come through when we heard it we all would run to the tracks to see it. This one and the older steam engine was really a site to see love the whistle on these
Love it, because that's just tougher than woodpecker lips: the wheels spin on occasion when starting out and it's slow deep chug! I could listen to that all day.
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What a magnificent locomotive. Thank goodness there are groups of volunteers who are working hard to keep these engines in good working order around the world. Thank you for sharing this video.
We road behind the J611 on its inaugural run. It was GREAT! The engine real "talks" as it charges up the hills. We were in the lounge car (extra fare) with "continuous light refreshment and beverage service". As my five year old son remarked: "This is the way to travel". Good to see it is still running and allowing people to experience steam in action.
When I was visiting my grandmother's house in a small village, at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, I would hear the steam train going past the station. Some times they would toot the whistle at the crossings, I would wake up then drop back to sleep. It is a wonderful sound to hear especially at night. Toot & Carry on
Listening to the distant sounds of an old steamer pulling the mountain pass a few miles away from my childhood home is a memory I'll hold onto as well. Wake up just enough to recognize what the racket was all about and drift right back to sleep. Years later, after that line was closed down, a few of us would saddle up and spend a weekend 'hiking the rails'. Good times all 'round.
Such an awesome bit of kit. I wish I could experience something like this. There are some fantastic old steam engines coming through where I live in England this year and I cannot wait. I completely agree about recording everything you can. Especially when it comes to the railway. Thanks mate
Nice. Its style looks more advanced/better/cooler faster stronger than the new 2025 cyber truck. Thats pure steam torque just to get the big wheels and push rods to rotate once around takes strong energy and its only a tiny share of the total weight =). Thats about the coolest thing Ive watched in a long time.
Beautiful machines built with pencil, paper, slide rules and imagination….my grandfather was an engineer for the B&O. I’ve got all kinds of memories and railroad stuff. Got to ride in a couple steam and diesels.
Almost brings tears to my eyes seeing these beautiful beasts. My dad (R.I.P) worked and retired from Southern Pacific (38) years and we lived three house down fron the railroad tracks. Remember them very well in the 1950's.
My Grandfather and Uncle both were engineers on Ft. Worth and Denver Railroads. Grandfather and family lived in railroad center of Sterley Texas just north of Lockney Texas. Grand parents and six kids lived in the back of a long narrow [shotgun] house and women cooked for rail workers who ate there. Grandfather's daily run just like UPS [was from Shamrock to Silverton Tx, to Sterley, Lockney, Hart and Dimmit Tx. It was the old west [literally] the area where indians, robbers, cowmen and marshals existed. My Uncle was drafted for WWII - no boot camp for him - just direct to England where he managed war freight through Sherwood forrest and prowling German aircraft. I've managed to buy a long spout oil can and coal [kerosene] can both marked Fanta Fe Rwy ! Prized possessions being saved for my grandson [nicknamed "Train Man']. Thanks for the great video - the engineer is an artist at minimising wheel spin.
Incredible machines. A few years back, my wife and I had the pleasure of riding behind the NKP 765. No matter how many times I see one, I stand in awe at the engineering and craftsmanship of these beautiful machines.
@@kurttug Um ... not. It´s about 7 - 10%. BUT you should take into consideration that this technology is not developed from 30´s or so ... So with modern technology of controlled burning ... and not burning coal but natural gas maybe ... who knows.
And don't forget how the fireman got rid of the black smoke. The coal got put on a little too heavy by the stoker - but a little application of the blower took care of it.
I believe this engine pulled the train I rode from Moberly, MO to Paris, MO in the mid 1980s on an excursion run. Got to go into the can at Paris. Great memory! Thank you for sharing!
What an awesome sight. It appears 611 lifted the train without any assistance from the 2 Diesels attached.. at one point I thought the Driver was going to have to let her rock back to get the cranks in the right position to start her, but he managed beautifully and controlled the slips with what appears to be little of no sand. Great piece of footage.
Why "rock back"?. When the rods on one side are in the wrong position, those on the other side are in the best position. That's why they are 90 degrees apart.
@@IndependentBear You're correct in saying that the rods are set at 90* angles, but when you view the video there is a point where the cranks reach a position which doesn't allow full pressure to be exerted on either piston.. 1 side being at the point of cut off and the other at the point of opening to lead. Thus.. if you let the engine rock back to a position where at least 1 side is at bottom or top quarter, the engine is able to have full power applied to that side.
The "rock back" is to compress the slack in the couplers. That minor amount of give allows the engine to start under load. Even a modern diesel uses that advantage when required.
@@waynehall6273 I have had to start on heavy grades a number of times on our steam Locomotives and it's always been because of crank position. Our heritage rollingstock is Drawhook and buffers. I have seen a mate lift his train on a steep grade out of Cloncurry Qld by compressing the draw gear (all auto couplers) and as the brakes released using the drawgear to help get the train started.
I've seen 611 pass through the Cambria crossing in Christiansburg VA a number of times, going back several decades. The most memorable was early one autumn morning (a "leaf excursion") with a definite chill in the air. The entire locomotive was absolutely wreathed in a cloud of steam as she headed west! How I wish I'd had a camera with me that day! (Years before they invented cell phones with cameras, sadly.) But the memory will stay with me forever! 🥰
Once I flipped a vinyl LP record of a recording of the last trip of a steam engine between Minneapolis and Chicago, I believe the trip was in 1965. According to the album cover, it turned out that it would be about 2am when the train would pass right by the home of the CEO who made the decision to mothball the engine. So of course when it got to that spot at that time, the engineer saw fit to let out a series of good long blasts of the horn, just for extra safety of course.
during my 25 yr career on Southern and then NS railway I got to work around this beast several times and spent one night on watch duty helping keep the boiler stoked when it was laying over at Hayne Yard in Spartanburg, SC. it is a fascinating piece of engineering work. very powerful, sleek and beautiful.
Seems that many are missing the point...yes sanding will help reduce wheel spin but then what fun would that video be? Engineer is giving folks a little show, what this machine can do. Also, anyone that really appreciates the magnificence of it wouldn't skip to the part with spin. The sounds and visual of the process to getting one of these beautiful beasts going it the spectical...you don't just flick a switch and go. It takes a hell a long time and a lot of work to get one ready to roll. That's what makes it so magnificent. Great video!
From India Travelling in those trains gave us a lot of excitement and joy. In those days people would cry when their loved ones left for a far away place because there was so much poverty and lack of trains.
In 1993 I had the pleasure of riding this beauty from Jacksonville, FL to Fargo, Ga and back. Now at nearly 40 I can say it was definitely one of the highlights of my life.
Otaku hunter - I respectfully disagree. Most modern industrial design displays a largely 'function before form' mindset. The example we see here in this steam locomotive, contains a modicum of ornamentation that while not necessary to the engines functional performance, is only present to enhance the form. Modern design doesn't seem to 'bother' with this notion.
Otaku hunter - I believe the big stylistic differences are due to natural evolution in the tastes of the designers, engineers and draftsmen...that change over time, as well as the technological changes in both what is being designed (steam vs diesel-electric...etc) AND how it is being designed. Pencil and paper at a drafting table vs computer. I’m certainly more of a fan of ‘design’ than an authority on it. I could be completely off base.
@@deaterk absolutely. Raymond Lowey (I think that was his name) I believe was a design artist not an engineer. Everything was designed with style in mind
Yea brother, for the train travel that is. Even with all our modern technological advancements we have made. A nuclear power plant still uses The power of steam to produce the electricity. The power it takes to wheel slip six, six foot in diameter cast iron wheels while carrying that mass while pulling the world behind it. Is as much, if not more humbling for me, for that period of time in history. As standing next to a three stage 48 foot, diameter turbine, spinning at 800 to1,000 rpm. Powered by an 850MW nuclear reactor, representing "our modern" steam technology. Just the thought of tubing that boiler. And making that steam drum without modern welding capabilities. let alone the casting and milling to exacting specifications all that running gear. And the assembly. Is a testament to the innovation and resolve of our forefathers. And still breathing Fire today! Out living all who built her. Awesome! Thanks dubch87 for the post.
Love to hear that whistle blow, such a melodious note, better than the tweets. Great piece of vlog, thanks for sharing. No wonder the spinning, what with all that extra weight behind.
@@Trainfan1055Janathan when you work in the railway you can, under shows you can, if the rails are not in use you can stop being so fucking high and mighty
@@LadyZeldaia Railroad workers don't just stand in the middle of the track. Also, there's no way to know if a track is no longer in use. It can go out of service for months and still be in use.
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What a beauty of a locomotive! I'm not entirely sure, but I think the wheel slip was on purpose, just by adding a little bit more steam, the awesome power of this machine could be seen and also impress the people around who were admiring the train at the same time...
When I was a young boy I lived near the Pennsylvania railroad in the 1940s. I heard wheel slips everyday. Actually I never knew the name for that until I saw this video. It always accompanied a train starting to move. Typically they were more pronounced and longer lived than in this video where they seem to have been controlled in extreme.
Norfolk & Western 611 makes its home in Roanoke Virginia, with regular visits to North Carolina and special runs to other destinations. This year it made its way North to Paradise Pennsylvania to visit Strasburg, and their Norfolk & Western 475.
@@suntrifermakes2765 To correct YOU, I was not just referring to the locomotive, but the design of the train and associated cars here and of this era... hence "TRAINS".
I got to ride on an excursion behind 611 many years ago. They dropped all of us rail-fans in a field and set up a temporary safety line then backed the train completely out of sight. We heard the whistle blow and the train came by at speed for a photo op. Very impressive from such a close point of view.
Mesmerizing watching 611 start to pull away from a dead stop. Wheel slippage? I have no idea how you prevent it, but engineers did. Experience, I'm sure. Seems like something you cannot train very well; something you learn; a skill you develop by touch and experience. Impressive.
Being an engineer, I like this Class J locomotive very much, simple, streamlined (adding to its beauty) & last but not least is without any clutter like UP's Big Boy.
Oh my goodness! What an awesome thing of beauty! I love everything about this video. Breathtaking, simply breathtaking! THANK YOU SO MUCH. New sub. Be well. STAY ENCOURAGED.
My father-in-law explained that when steam locomotives started they backed up to take all the slack out of the couplers. Then when the locomotive started moving, it only had to pull the tender, then taking the slack out - the first car, then the second, etc. That way they would start without slipping. Also, he noted that when diesel-electric locomotives first came on the scene, engineers would do the same, and would pull the draw bars out of the cars.
Make no mistake about it, the 611 doesn’t need the help of those diesels. I’m not sure why they are there on this particular trip. Sometimes its because of insurance, or a railroad executive rules it so, or because the passenger cars require electric power and the steam engine can’t provide it. But the 611 has no problem with powering passenger trains. I’ve seen the 611 carry huge passenger trains with no diesel. I’ve Ridden some of them, too. Could be that they needed helper service on the Loops at Old Fort, a few miles out of town. That’s a place where the Southern Railway scrunched a rising 2.2% grade of 13 miles of track into about 3 miles of leisurely crow-flying. It’s a challenge for any engine, but the 611 handled it without any problems. But those are special diesels. The F unit is reconditioned and painted in its original Southern livery. The modern unit is a “heritage” unit, painted to resemble the other unit in honor of the fallen flag of the Southern, the home road on which the N&W 611 is currently traveling in this video. It’s all Norfolk Southern now, anyway.
Diesel is probably there to enable train protection. Steam operation was regulated by timetable and tokens. Separate generator cars exist to power passenger cars, but they lack automated emergency braking.
That just shows the tremendous power that machine has. It can "smoke the tires" without even trying. As a matter of fact, it takes real skill and delicate handling of the controls to be able to get that thing rolling without just sitting there spinning the wheels.
I saw a steam video recently and the locomotive had the same problem. Whoever built the engine only added sanders going backwards so the engineer had to go backward to coat the track with sand and were able to make the grade.
When the locomotive starts moving at the end, we get to see some other folk enjoying the spectacle...including some adults standing on the adjacent tracks, with some kids a little further back. The adults "yeah it's fine to stand here, absolutely fine. Just keep looking left and right" whilst the kids "are you completely stupid? You never stand on the tracks mom, c'mon, everyone knows that". Never stand on train tracks // railroad tracks. Unless you are a train.
On January 8, 2023 Norfolk & Western #611 was parked in Ronks,Pa at the Strasburg Railroad Station. Don’t know how she ended up at Strasburg RR or any other circumstances about her but i took pictures of her beautiful elegance!
You know, I worked there, but lets look at the amazing technology of today's locomotives. It's okay if you love them, just don't miss out of the amazing locomotives they have today.
Rode about 45 miles behind 611 around 1985. Looked her over for about an hour as she took on coal and water while the crew had lunch. What a magnificent machine! Both the beauty AND the beast.
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The reason for the wheel slip is because my mother in law was on this excursion. back in the 90s, it took both 611 and 1218 to move her.
This made me laugh harder than I have in a while.
har-dee-har-har. about as funny as a busted rubber in a 16 yr old girl at the height of her ovulation cycle. quick marriage to follow.
harry brownneigh you sound like chris hansen, dateline nbc, predators. no i don't want the damn teeth busting brownies or the ugly girl.
@Commentor1 that's what put my in a early marriage at age 19. a loaf in the oven now 45. marriage didn't last either.
Interesting reply, because 611 reminds me a helluva lot of my Mother in Law: Weighs over 300 tonnes, has enough power to pull down a house and is loud enough that you can hear her from across town if she's going uphill.
The wheel slip is in my opinion one of the best parts about trains. Because it shows you the power of the engine in a brief second . Also probably because of the polar express frozen ice scene.
Yeees!!!
611 does it a lot too. I've noticed this engine doesn't like switches, and will predictably slip on encountering a switch at low speeds. Here they had parked on top of one, and had to bunch up slack and take a rolling start at it.
But it also wears the tyres out.
@@hehe-IgoBRRRR at first I was like "yeah, tf is this dude trolling?" But then I remembered some locomotives have steel bands around the wheels called tires.
Train enthusiasts equivalent of a burnout!
Wow these old steam locomotives are truly amazing, they seem almost alive, like huge living and breathing monsters. I can only imagine what an event traveling by train must have been in the old days
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Whatch out for the dirty smoke on your white clothes!
I love the sound of a steam loco getting up to speed. The initial puffs of steam bursting through, and each beat and pulse of the engine getting quicker and closer together. Just really adds a sense of occasion I think.
These machines were amazingly engineered, designed and then built by a small army of craftmen that took great pride in what they produced.
@Bill Williams ,
Dr. Demming said the root cause was the preoccupation of USA upper management with quarterly profits and that same management believing that an outlook of 2 years was long range planning.
Not to mention diesels were WAY cheaper to run and maintain. More so to maintain and less so to run.
They are truly amazing and it is great that so many organizations are restoring and maintaining these machines for future generations to see. Now that the BigBoy is out in the public more people are being introduced to trains and steam in particular and I can only hope that equates to more interest in train travel, train logistics and even model trains.
@@sydspoak6754 Yeah Steam was the technology of the time and what they did to maximize these machines was awesome. But yes, the newer locomotives provides more durability, easier on resources and the cost to maintain is significantly less. Heck, there are diesel locomotives still in revenue operation that were built 50's and early 60's...granted they likely had mods since the original build but they are still around working hard.
@Bill Williams Let's for one second give the other side of the argument the benefit of the doubt. I am though also for quality over quantity. But isn't the fact that these kind of machines are so incredibly well built, a sign of over-panning? And that they did not take into account that new technology would make things more efficient and outproduce over-planned craftmanship?
In spite of this, i also like well-built and quality industrial solutions, because over time, it makes the best use of limited resources, and also gives people psychological boost and safety. It lifts the community when you know that someone gave a damn when they did something, and it makes you want to learn more about it. You don't exactly feel like learning about "made in China" crap.
I _adore_ the wheel slip. You think steam engines, you think torque, but we tend to forget sometimes that these are also precision machines, the absolute peak of the tech of their day, and they have more than _just_ tremendous brute force.
They have _insane_ power, and yet the ability to apply that power _just so._
The engineer actually did a very good job controlling the wheel spin.
That engine was the forerunner of "wheelies".
@@davidkamen I think you mean "burnouts". It is physically impossible for this train to do a "wheelie"
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@@TBonerton It’s neither. It’s wheel slip.
Locomotives are one of the few things in life that get better with age.
Cars too
(Of course when are in good conditions)
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It’s amazing how we created magnificent machines like this with only steel and steam
Steam machines have so much soul
Well, you say "we" but let's be honest you and I contributed very little to the overall effort.
@@chaosnexxus9255 thats fair
You didn’t create shit.
@@krakenwoodfloorservicemcma5975 dude, its an expression. go take an english class
They are like tame dragons - sensational. The whistle is more like a big ship's foghorn. You would hear that for miles. One of the most beautiful steam locos of all time.
Tame dragon… now that’s a lovely analogy.
Why not a 'Flaming Dragon' or did Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller ruin that for everyone. 😂
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The locomotive looks so muscular and athletic, I mean it just wants to go. A good amount of streamlining without going over the top, 10/10
I am amazed at the size of these locomotives. I know there are bigger locomotives, but that thing is MASSIVE! and the power they release is awesome!
I remember when I was young my house was close to the railroad. And once in awhile this train would come through when we heard it we all would run to the tracks to see it. This one and the older steam engine was really a site to see love the whistle on these
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Love it, because that's just tougher than woodpecker lips: the wheels spin on occasion when starting out and it's slow deep chug! I could listen to that all day.
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What a magnificent locomotive. Thank goodness there are groups of volunteers who are working hard to keep these engines in good working order around the world. Thank you for sharing this video.
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We road behind the J611 on its inaugural run. It was GREAT! The engine real "talks" as it charges up the hills. We were in the lounge car (extra fare) with "continuous light refreshment and beverage service". As my five year old son remarked: "This is the way to travel". Good to see it is still running and allowing people to experience steam in action.
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When I was visiting my grandmother's house in a small village, at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, I would hear the steam train going past the station. Some times they would toot the whistle at the crossings, I would wake up then drop back to sleep. It is a wonderful sound to hear especially at night. Toot & Carry on
Listening to the distant sounds of an old steamer pulling the mountain pass a few miles away from my childhood home is a memory I'll hold onto as well.
Wake up just enough to recognize what the racket was all about and drift right back to sleep. Years later, after that line was closed down, a few of us would saddle up and spend a weekend 'hiking the rails'. Good times all 'round.
Such an awesome bit of kit. I wish I could experience something like this. There are some fantastic old steam engines coming through where I live in England this year and I cannot wait. I completely agree about recording everything you can. Especially when it comes to the railway. Thanks mate
watching these brings back many fond memories of the 40's and 50's
Nice. Its style looks more advanced/better/cooler faster stronger than the new 2025 cyber truck. Thats pure steam torque just to get the big wheels and push rods to rotate once around takes strong energy and its only a tiny share of the total weight =). Thats about the coolest thing Ive watched in a long time.
Beautiful machines built with pencil, paper, slide rules and imagination….my grandfather was an engineer for the B&O. I’ve got all kinds of memories and railroad stuff. Got to ride in a couple steam and diesels.
Almost brings tears to my eyes seeing these beautiful beasts. My dad (R.I.P) worked and retired from Southern Pacific (38) years and we lived three house down fron the railroad tracks. Remember them very well in the 1950's.
Aww
A home by the railway track has been my childhood dream and now on my bucket list ..
My Grandfather and Uncle both were engineers on Ft. Worth and Denver Railroads. Grandfather and family lived in railroad center of Sterley Texas just north of Lockney Texas. Grand parents and six kids lived in the back of a long narrow [shotgun] house and women cooked for rail workers who ate there. Grandfather's daily run just like UPS [was from Shamrock to Silverton Tx, to Sterley, Lockney, Hart and Dimmit Tx. It was the old west [literally] the area where indians, robbers, cowmen and marshals existed. My Uncle was drafted for WWII - no boot camp for him - just direct to England where he managed war freight through Sherwood forrest and prowling German aircraft. I've managed to buy a long spout oil can and coal [kerosene] can both marked Fanta Fe Rwy ! Prized possessions being saved for my grandson [nicknamed "Train Man']. Thanks for the great video - the engineer is an artist at minimising wheel spin.
Wow
Oh mate that's really fantastic WHAT A MEMORY lots of love from the U.K.
I love seeing steam engine wheelslip for some reason! 🚂
yes here in germany we call it "schuhe putzen"
Very true, and here in India we call it talakei sugamilla
Here, in Czech Republic we call it "Protočení kol" or "kurva rozjeď se už" and i think that's beautiful. (translate it)
19th century burnout
And here in sodelen, we call it deke der deper
60% of viewers and comments: 611 is beautiful especially with that wheel slip!
The other 40%: Yo this is cool....Wait hold up why am I here?
A very appropriate thing to say in this case.
Incredible machines. A few years back, my wife and I had the pleasure of riding behind the NKP 765. No matter how many times I see one, I stand in awe at the engineering and craftsmanship of these beautiful machines.
It must be a relief blowing off steam
a lot more than that! ugh.
It’s relaxing to let that pressure out.
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@@zenokarlsbach4292 Right, coal or oil.
Watch out here comes the climate change prophet.
Steamers all over the world are so great, nice to see people hold a few alive.
The saying "They dont build them like they used to." Is a very true statement
Why? Wheel slip is usual when you put down too much power
Yeah, now they build other things, differently
That's why we cherish them with all our heart while we still can
I'm sure the engineers who built the train would have a very different view to that if they could see modern trains and planes...
@@dagmitchell7580 morning
That is because a steam engine has 100% torque at zero miles per hour.
Same with diesel electric
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And an efficiency of 1% tops
So that's why they need to start up slowing, and build up speed slowly by gaining a little speed.
@@kurttug Um ... not. It´s about 7 - 10%. BUT you should take into consideration that this technology is not developed from 30´s or so ... So with modern technology of controlled burning ... and not burning coal but natural gas maybe ... who knows.
And don't forget how the fireman got rid of the black smoke. The coal got put on a little too heavy by the stoker - but a little application of the blower took care of it.
I believe this engine pulled the train I rode from Moberly, MO to Paris, MO in the mid 1980s on an excursion run. Got to go into the can at Paris. Great memory! Thank you for sharing!
What a beauty, so nimble speeding along the track. Harmonious engineering, proudly showing American spirit.
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What an awesome sight. It appears 611 lifted the train without any assistance from the 2 Diesels attached.. at one point I thought the Driver was going to have to let her rock back to get the cranks in the right position to start her, but he managed beautifully and controlled the slips with what appears to be little of no sand. Great piece of footage.
Why "rock back"?. When the rods on one side are in the wrong position, those on the other side are in the best position. That's why they are 90 degrees apart.
@@IndependentBear You're correct in saying that the rods are set at 90* angles, but when you view the video there is a point where the cranks reach a position which doesn't allow full pressure to be exerted on either piston.. 1 side being at the point of cut off and the other at the point of opening to lead. Thus.. if you let the engine rock back to a position where at least 1 side is at bottom or top quarter, the engine is able to have full power applied to that side.
The "rock back" is to compress the slack in the couplers. That minor amount of give allows the engine to start under load. Even a modern diesel uses that advantage when required.
@@waynehall6273 I have had to start on heavy grades a number of times on our steam Locomotives and it's always been because of crank position. Our heritage rollingstock is Drawhook and buffers. I have seen a mate lift his train on a steep grade out of Cloncurry Qld by compressing the draw gear (all auto couplers) and as the brakes released using the drawgear to help get the train started.
Great piece of driving.
Such an awesome sound!!! The power though to slip those wheels is amazing!!!
I've seen 611 pass through the Cambria crossing in Christiansburg VA a number of times, going back several decades. The most memorable was early one autumn morning (a "leaf excursion") with a definite chill in the air. The entire locomotive was absolutely wreathed in a cloud of steam as she headed west! How I wish I'd had a camera with me that day! (Years before they invented cell phones with cameras, sadly.) But the memory will stay with me forever! 🥰
Да, этг по настоящему классные машины. Американские паровозы, это великолепное произведение искусства
Once I flipped a vinyl LP record of a recording of the last trip of a steam engine between Minneapolis and Chicago, I believe the trip was in 1965. According to the album cover, it turned out that it would be about 2am when the train would pass right by the home of the CEO who made the decision to mothball the engine. So of course when it got to that spot at that time, the engineer saw fit to let out a series of good long blasts of the horn, just for extra safety of course.
during my 25 yr career on Southern and then NS railway I got to work around this beast several times and spent one night on watch duty helping keep the boiler stoked when it was laying over at Hayne Yard in Spartanburg, SC. it is a fascinating piece of engineering work. very powerful, sleek and beautiful.
Wow - what a great story.
What a majestic beauty. A true sign of the true innovators on good old days.
I read "at the old fart" and laughed for the rest of the month
🤣🤣🤣those old farts can be pungent though.
Seems that many are missing the point...yes sanding will help reduce wheel spin but then what fun would that video be? Engineer is giving folks a little show, what this machine can do. Also, anyone that really appreciates the magnificence of it wouldn't skip to the part with spin. The sounds and visual of the process to getting one of these beautiful beasts going it the spectical...you don't just flick a switch and go. It takes a hell a long time and a lot of work to get one ready to roll. That's what makes it so magnificent. Great video!
It looks so brawny. All the parts are absolutely massive in their proportions.
Omg yes! It’s like Bo Jackson on steroids 😂
What a beautiful piece of engineering art.
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Absolute amazing work
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Travelling in those trains gave us a lot of excitement and joy.
In those days people would cry when their loved ones left for a far away place because there was so much poverty and lack of trains.
In 1993 I had the pleasure of riding this beauty from Jacksonville, FL to Fargo, Ga and back. Now at nearly 40 I can say it was definitely one of the highlights of my life.
when designing trains was an art...
As were planes, ships, and automobiles
Otaku hunter - I respectfully disagree. Most modern industrial design displays a largely 'function before form' mindset. The example we see here in this steam locomotive, contains a modicum of ornamentation that while not necessary to the engines functional performance, is only present to enhance the form. Modern design doesn't seem to 'bother' with this notion.
Otaku hunter - I believe the big stylistic differences are due to natural evolution in the tastes of the designers, engineers and draftsmen...that change over time, as well as the technological changes in both what is being designed (steam vs diesel-electric...etc) AND how it is being designed. Pencil and paper at a drafting table vs computer. I’m certainly more of a fan of ‘design’ than an authority on it. I could be completely off base.
when designing anything was an art.
nowdays everything is sterile, boring and the same.
@@deaterk absolutely. Raymond Lowey (I think that was his name) I believe was a design artist not an engineer. Everything was designed with style in mind
Awesome catch !! :) 👍🏻
Absolute poetry in motion even with wheel slippage. The height of modern steam technology.
Yea brother, for the train travel that is. Even with all our modern technological advancements we have made. A nuclear power plant still uses The power of steam to produce the electricity.
The power it takes to wheel slip six, six foot in diameter cast iron wheels while carrying that mass while pulling the world behind it. Is as much, if not more humbling for me, for that period of time in history. As standing next to a three stage 48 foot, diameter turbine, spinning at 800 to1,000 rpm. Powered by an 850MW nuclear reactor, representing "our modern" steam technology.
Just the thought of tubing that boiler. And making that steam drum without modern welding capabilities. let alone the casting and milling to exacting specifications all that running gear.
And the assembly. Is a testament to the innovation and resolve of our forefathers.
And still breathing Fire today! Out living all who built her. Awesome!
Thanks dubch87 for the post.
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I actually saw 611 speed through Marion NC, our hometown and little me was SO EXCITED! I'm 20 now.
All that weight and can still do a burn out, a beautiful piece of history, imagine what it took to build thi engine.. thanks for sharing.
😄😄😄
What a monster loco, nice to see you guys over the pond love your steam as much as us Brits.
What a beautiful machine!
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Blowing off steam I think it is inspiring to apply this to our lives. Thanks for the video.
Love to hear that whistle blow, such a melodious note, better than the tweets. Great piece of vlog, thanks for sharing. No wonder the spinning, what with all that extra weight behind.
It's ALIVE! Super Loco
4:37 Don't stand _on_ _the_ _tracks_ while filming a train! You're part of the problem.
you dont know the story, do you? why assume shit so easily
@@LadyZeldaia You shouldn't stand on the tracks no matter _what_ the "story" is. There's no excuse.
@@Trainfan1055Janathan when you work in the railway you can, under shows you can, if the rails are not in use you can
stop being so fucking high and mighty
@@LadyZeldaia Railroad workers don't just stand in the middle of the track. Also, there's no way to know if a track is no longer in use. It can go out of service for months and still be in use.
@@Trainfan1055Janathan do you like your own comments?
In the 50's I lived 2 Blocks from the track , When one of the Giants went by I could feel the ground shake even from 2 blocks away !!
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So much power in those beasts!
how old are you man
@@Smoke_Weed_Everyday_ old as dirt!!! been around since the jupiter was running.........
What a beauty of a locomotive! I'm not entirely sure, but I think the wheel slip was on purpose, just by adding a little bit more steam, the awesome power of this machine could be seen and also impress the people around who were admiring the train at the same time...
When I was a young boy I lived near the Pennsylvania railroad in the 1940s. I heard wheel slips everyday. Actually I never knew the name for that until I saw this video. It always accompanied a train starting to move. Typically they were more pronounced and longer lived than in this video where they seem to have been controlled in extreme.
Bestial de frumoase locomotiva cu aburi senzațional respect
So there are still some engines from the era of "streamlined steam" in service. Indeed, they were uniquely beautiful.
Norfolk & Western 611 makes its home in Roanoke Virginia, with regular visits to North Carolina and special runs to other destinations. This year it made its way North to Paradise Pennsylvania to visit Strasburg, and their Norfolk & Western 475.
@@renegadeoflife87 And it’s doing it Again!
@@spiralhillrailfan3768 When they fix it. The mechanical stoker broke, and I wouldn't want to feed the 611's appetite using only a shovel.
This is class J, built by Norfolk & Western in Roanoke.
THAT is what a train should look like. Today's trains are boring.
Tuna on White, No Crusts true. They don’t have a sleek design, there all blocky and boring.
Yes. That thing looks really badass!
To Correct You This Are Locomotives, Trains Are Those Locomotives With Frieght Cars/Passenger Cars And Locomotive Now A Days Are Diesel Or Electric
And To Add A Bit... That Locomotive Is An Steam Loco
@@suntrifermakes2765 To correct YOU, I was not just referring to the locomotive, but the design of the train and associated cars here and of this era... hence "TRAINS".
I got to ride on an excursion behind 611 many years ago. They dropped all of us rail-fans in a field and set up a temporary safety line then backed the train completely out of sight. We heard the whistle blow and the train came by at speed for a photo op. Very impressive from such a close point of view.
Great video as always my friend....I like IT!!!! All the best from Romania
Mesmerizing watching 611 start to pull away from a dead stop. Wheel slippage? I have no idea how you prevent it, but engineers did. Experience, I'm sure. Seems like something you cannot train very well; something you learn; a skill you develop by touch and experience. Impressive.
I love these sort of locos, streamlined and beautiful. I would love to drive one.
It is truly amazing, very impressive engineering.
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Being an engineer, I like this Class J locomotive very much, simple, streamlined (adding to its beauty) & last but not least is without any clutter like UP's Big Boy.
Are you a smart engineer that designs things? Or a RR engineer.
What a beautiful piece of machinery!
Oh my goodness! What an awesome thing of beauty! I love everything about this video. Breathtaking, simply breathtaking! THANK YOU SO MUCH. New sub. Be well. STAY ENCOURAGED.
This reminds me of that feeling you get when you try to run in a dream.
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My father-in-law explained that when steam locomotives started they backed up to take all the slack out of the couplers. Then when the locomotive started moving, it only had to pull the tender, then taking the slack out - the first car, then the second, etc. That way they would start without slipping. Also, he noted that when diesel-electric locomotives first came on the scene, engineers would do the same, and would pull the draw bars out of the cars.
Make no mistake about it, the 611 doesn’t need the help of those diesels. I’m not sure why they are there on this particular trip. Sometimes its because of insurance, or a railroad executive rules it so, or because the passenger cars require electric power and the steam engine can’t provide it. But the 611 has no problem with powering passenger trains. I’ve seen the 611 carry huge passenger trains with no diesel. I’ve Ridden some of them, too. Could be that they needed helper service on the Loops at Old Fort, a few miles out of town. That’s a place where the Southern Railway scrunched a rising 2.2% grade of 13 miles of track into about 3 miles of leisurely crow-flying. It’s a challenge for any engine, but the 611 handled it without any problems. But those are special diesels. The F unit is reconditioned and painted in its original Southern livery. The modern unit is a “heritage” unit, painted to resemble the other unit in honor of the fallen flag of the Southern, the home road on which the N&W 611 is currently traveling in this video. It’s all Norfolk Southern now, anyway.
Diesel is probably there to enable train protection. Steam operation was regulated by timetable and tokens. Separate generator cars exist to power passenger cars, but they lack automated emergency braking.
What an awesome piece of machinery 👏👏👏👏👏👍
That just shows the tremendous power that machine has. It can "smoke the tires" without even trying. As a matter of fact, it takes real skill and delicate handling of the controls to be able to get that thing rolling without just sitting there spinning the wheels.
Great sight. Thanks to the staff who made it possible.
What a magnificent locomotive
Simply GORGEOUS streamlining!
It was even more magnificent when it triple headed with 4501 (I can’t remember the road number of the other locomotive)
Engineer: Why all the slipping.
Also Engineer: has wrong sanders on.
if I didn't fall asleep
I regularly watch this
The "SLIP MASTER" Perfection.... ❤ Love the Double Slip.. Not sure if saw Triple Slip!!
❤AWESOMENESS❤
I saw a steam video recently and the locomotive had the same problem. Whoever built the engine only added sanders going backwards so the engineer had to go backward to coat the track with sand and were able to make the grade.
When the locomotive starts moving at the end, we get to see some other folk enjoying the spectacle...including some adults standing on the adjacent tracks, with some kids a little further back.
The adults "yeah it's fine to stand here, absolutely fine. Just keep looking left and right" whilst the kids "are you completely stupid? You never stand on the tracks mom, c'mon, everyone knows that".
Never stand on train tracks // railroad tracks. Unless you are a train.
Cats
Or if your a penny
Do not stand on the tracks. Tracks are for trains. If you can read this, you are not a train.
"N & W 611 has trouble getting taction..."
Translation: HOW MUCH TORQUE DOES THIS MONSTER HAVE TO SPIN A 6' IRON WHEEL WITH THAT MUCH EASE?!!!
A lot.
all of it
“A” 6’ iron wheel?
Mate it’s got eight
Wikipedia says she has a max output of 5300 hp.
Over 70,000 foot pounds.
On January 8, 2023 Norfolk & Western #611 was parked in Ronks,Pa at the Strasburg Railroad Station. Don’t know how she ended up at Strasburg RR or any other circumstances about her but i took pictures of her beautiful elegance!
Excellent & marvelous capture 😍😍😍
BRILLIANT
they shout run the more often
What a beautiful machine.
I took my grandson to see this..amazing!
Very good control from the crew to stop the slip almost immediately
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How can something look so old yet so futuristic at the same time? It has a slick appearance you don’t see on most old steam locomotives.
It was streamlined so that it could go at higher speeds.
That is totally awesome, gives me goosebumps period.
i just love that locomotive’s horn, it sounds so satisfying
Wolfie 577 steam locomotives don’t have horns, they have whistle.
@@meepmeep1909 Some have a whistle AND a horn.
In particular, the Pennsylvania Railroad's S-1 has a single air horn visible in some photos, and the last class of Chinese 2-10-2s had air horns.
So does SP4449
*whistle*
You know, I worked there, but lets look at the amazing technology of today's locomotives. It's okay if you love them, just don't miss out of the amazing locomotives they have today.
Today's locomotives are better in every way , but we all know who puts on the best show.
To much pollution
I don’t know why this is on my recommendation list but I like it
I know nothing about locomotives, but Wheel Slips are cool!