Designing the MEGA AQUEDUCT in Timberborn!
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Hi rce 👋
Palworld is definitly something I think you should bring your engineering prowers to
Was that an RCE face reveal?
you can build a platform in the middle of the volcano on the water. the beavers will shed material without having to tear anything down and will still be healthy.
Yep they can build down from any point, so a platform would work great without beaver sacrifice.
Please let rce see this before we have another incident 3.0
I'm engaging with this comment so Matt can see this comment
I did this exact thing on this map.
came here to post this. .... but it might be that Matt hates his beavers and wants them to dive in poo 😀
I feel sad for the beavers that RCE constantly forgets that they can build down nearly unlimited height wise. So building a small single line of platforms can protect the beavers from an.... INCIDENT™
Came here to say this but not in nearly as entertaining a way.
Thing is that I would love to see another incident
With a hole this deep (hehheh) its usually worth unlocking suspension bridges. Saves a lot of planks when youre spanning ~20 tiles. You only need to build a footing every 6 tiles instead of on every tile.
Just have to remember to build them all from the same end. It doesnt look the best, but if you try to put the pillars in opposite ends of a span they wont be able to build the far pillar.
@@necropawit's also useful in extremely tall maps (often mods) since every time you have to shove 3+ platforms of 3 height, it becomes pretty efficient 😅
Charles Leclerc : that was just an INCHIDENT™
Beavers can build an infinite distance below them. You can create platforms from the edge all the way to the middle and build the cap from above the bad water. The beavers should build the platforms and the cap while staying above water.
Shut up and let the dummy do it his way, anyway is ok it’s just that some are better than others
or even a bridge (ig cuz hes not on experimenmtal they cost more but could still be worth)
Was fully expecting this to be experimental, doing the old school levees and power shafts seems like a massive amount of work when both are solved and look way cooler in the new version.
Agreed, he definitely should've just updated his world
This was the comment I was looking for. Thanks!
Then again, considering his performance with Beavantlantis 2, he'd probably use his civil architecturing skills to just flood the entire map with bad water.
i have been playing the experimental update and i would said they sure nailed the name for its phase at the moment. It is an insanely buggy mess. I have had multiple crashes, and even corrupted saves playing it. Not to mention all the bugs of water and bad water leaking due to the new water physics not being fully ironed out yet. If it was put to a vote, i would say just wait for a proper release.
@@gredystar8333 I've had no issues and I'm pushing 1000 beavers. We'll see how many I can cram into by beaver metropolis.
14:30 You need the experimental to make an actual aqueduct that can bridge over rivers, so why not just do it? The experimental also have automatic sluices and it will be easier to transfer energy from the tower. We're you gonna save the new update for a later season or something?
Yeah, he probably planned out the bext season with experimental and doesn't want it to be merged into this season.
he usually waits till its not experimental before starting a season on it.
Yes
I would love for you to use experimental becouse its just better
More than that, in experimental mode you have acces to stackable vertical power shafts, the gavity battery he built could be connected in a reasonable amount of time with those.
Just putting this out there, but beavers can build DOWN from a mega bridge over the poo water 5:55
Unless it's changed, beavers can build an unlimited distance downward, so you *could* build platforms out to the badwater source and build the dome without contamination.
Hasn't changed yet
25:56 RCarchitEct: Why are my beavers sick? - Path into Poocano on full display...
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Btw might consider the installation next to the badwater Dome. That still allows you to extract the badwater and prevents it from coming out of the hole. The dome just seals it
Yes and platform to the center so we don't have another incident.
@@MrKarmapup69don't mention the incident
The dome has its uses, iirc, if you open the dome on the dry season you still get poo out of it, so it's basically useful for unlimited energy.
@@lXlDarKSuoLlXlthe iron teeth have that one, the dome just stops it
@@zerken77 wait, really? I guess my tendency for playing mostly iron teeth has come to bite me in the tail uh?
you'll need a bad water rig instead, so you can get bad water when the poocano is cleaned.
also you can also just build platform and just build them from up top. no matter how deep below the building is...
The badwater rig won't work once he floods it with water.
@@mandrakejake thats what levees are for xD
Though unless Matt goes crazy with dynamite and terraforming, something he’s never shown any inclination towards, he probably will be fine with just what bad tides provide.
There is a 2nd badwater source, so that could be kept isolated and run a rig in it
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High priority literally everthing
Matt getting distracted or cocky and a massive adverse hit (like robot beavers , droughts etc )
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BEAVERS CAN BUILD INFINITELY DOWN U DONT HAVE TO DROWN THEM IN BADWATER!!!!!
Bump
Bump again
You could use bridges to reach the badwater source so as not to contaminate your beavers
I support this comment because I think all caps is better for Matt's understanding 😅
Bump
Please just go to experimental. Replacing the paths with power shafts one by one is completely insane. You can also use the 6x1 ( or other sizes ) metal platforms for the mega aqueduct and also the automatic sluice gates for bad tides.
Also seriously bro, look into sluices. They make dealing with badwater SOOOOO much easier. You could replace the dam piece near your blueberry fields with a sluice gate and set it to only open when badwater contamination is above, say, 5%. You won't get any water, but it'll help your crops keep longer. Likewise with your primary water source at the top of that small hill there, you can have sluice gates pointing off the map and another set of gates feeding into your village. If you set the one leading off the map to open above 5% contamination and the other to close above 5%, all the badwater will be directed off the map rather than into your water supply. Another interesting thing: Floodgates control the water level BEHIND them, sluice gates help control the water level IN FRONT OF them. You can use that to build reservoirs that slowly leak into your waterways to keep them topped up during droughts. Hope that helps.
Edit: Oh you're still playing in the Release build. I've stuck entirely to the Experimental build lately and thought they'd already released it proper. Advice still applies once it rolls around, though!
Now that you have dynamite, you could make irrigation holes for your crops so you don't need to relly on the turn of the tide.
Blow a big hole, dump it full of water and BAM.
or rebuild your pathways on top of irrigation paths.
they dont work as well anymore. single blocks only water a small area around. a 3x3 hole though should give the full irrigation since 3 is the minimum for full spread.
@@pulsefel9210 true.
Also you'll have to build a 1×1 bridge over it. Or the beavers won't reach the middle.
If you make the skyscraper a rectangle, instead of the architectural shape it is now, you can build all of your horizontal power shafts on one side of the tower and have the path on the other. That should save a lot of time in deleting paths for a couple of shafts.
he could just go to experimental so he could build an actual aqueduct and just run vertical power shafts up the side
5:53 rce being an actual architect, making beavers suffer
He's got access to platforms, overhangs, and bridges. He could easily build the badwater dome without contaminating a single beaver, yet here we are.
Please go into experimental mode. Please remember that Beavers can build down vertically extreme distances and just make a bridge over the badwater for them to build the badwater cap
you can use tall house to transfer power vertically
I don't think lodges of any type transfer power
2 things you should do:
1) Dynamite the overflow for the pond by the berry farm to allow it to fully drain, and put in a floodgate. That way, when a badtide hits, you can dump out the badwater and avoid your berries getting contaminated. Badtides only last a couple of days, and the berries will survive for 9 days without water, so that's probably a preferable result.
2) Add floodgates on both overflows for the main water source. When a badtide hits, raise the one leading to the main valley and lower the one off the back, allowing the badwater to spill off the map quickly without passing by your farms. When a drought hits, raise both to increase your storage capacity.
Building range down is unlimited, you could build an avove-water pontoon to the edhe of the bad water discharge and noone has to die
If you were in experimental and used the new sluice blocks, you wouldn’t haven’t to manage your floodgates for bad tides. Sluice gates do it automatically if you set it up right.
Barracks, lodges and other buildings pass power along, even if they don't require power. You could pile houses on the side of the tower to get the power down instead of building shafts one by one.
So a few tips about beaver builders: They can build up to one tile above them, but can also reach every single tile under that. If you have the ladders mod, for example, building UP requires you to put 2-tile-high platforms on one side of them, but if you're trying to get down a cliffside, even if it's 5, 10, 20 tiles down, you can build it from the bottom up, since the building is below the beaver. So for that poocano, you can easily have them safely build the badwater dome by having platforms reaching up to just above the badwater levels. Despite being way higher up than the dome, they can still reach it. Don't ever have to go into the badwater if you plan carefully x) Hope it helps m8
matt not seeing those stairs built inside the poocano? pure joy
Make sure you blow the ground underneath that battery! MAXIMIZE THAT BATTERY BABY
You're underestimating the determination of beavers. Just because you didn't put a connected path to the stairs down the poocano doesn't mean it's out of reasonable reach of a path's end for the beavers. I can't say for certain, but I want to say that beavers will act on a certain block radius off any path they're able to access that's connected to their district and is within relative reason. Like I've had beavers in 2 different districts cross the district crossing on either side to pick up resources from things I deconstructed around it. Like a group from one side was crossing into what would be the other district's territory to grab stuff, and vice versa and it wasn't like 2 or 3 blocks distance. It was like 12-15 blocks. So even though you didn't have a connected path to the stairs down the poocano, I suspect your builders still saw a job to be done within a reasonable distance from a path connected to the district and did what they could. You've inadvertently already caused the Incident 3.0 official.
You can see that they started building the stairs down to the bad water source.
I believe your build limit is 10 squares away from the end of the path.
14:30 Matt, just do experimental, you're gonna need it anyways to do the MegaAqueduct!
5:35 just build a bridge
Yesss but it's going to take him 3 episodes the realise
You, in theory, could use the megaqueduct for water storage as well. Just build a platform on an edge and slap a pump on that.
Hey Matt! If you build platforms over the poocano to the pop water source for the cap then the beavers won’t get contaminated. They can build infinity downward. Also you should use the bad water rig and not the dome so you still have access to poo water for your centrifuge and explosives.
17:55 Did he face revealed in his newslettler.
Hey RCE, you can build from high to low
So I'm pretty sure you can just build platforms above the poo-cano water and have the beavers "dump" materials into the bad water seal thingy
When they're done with materials they can build it from up above as well
The beavers can build 2 levels above them & unlimited below them. So, build a platform or bridge over the bung, above the badwater. A single wide path down the middle.
Honestly, your current projects definitely scream experimental. I think you are just hurting yourself by staying where you are
Oh man, you know you dont have to kill beavers to build. You could just make a pathway on top of the sludge. They can build straight down.
Face reveal??? 17:57
I thought so too
Or is Matt trolling us
That is Brad Pitt lol
I saw that and SPRINTED to the comments. Almost got me to sign up for the news letter, too bad it's Brad Pitt.
Make sure you have space for the gravity batteries on either side so they don't get interrupted by roads. While you're at it bomb out the ground beneath them as low as you can.
I honestly thought this was going to be an experimental one. Nope, it's a Timberborners!! Woohoo!
Him building those pumps as far away as possible killed me lol
You don't need to sacrifice any beavers just build platforms out to it above the badwater.
25:14 if you start building at the bottom and let it slowly fill up with water as you go, would beavers be able to swim to all parts of the aqueduct alleviating the need for all the extra levies?
Beavers need pretty close access to whatever they're building, unless they are building from above, they won't stray more than 10 tiles away from the path to build, and they will stay at ground level when going on paths (or land) through water.
You can use buildings to transfer power. Meaning you can build narrow houses vertically to the top of the tower. So you don't have to replace the stairs.
Build a platform above the poo water. Beavers will build down below without getting into the water. When the platform gets out to the cap, they'll build that without going down either. They can always build down, an infinite amount, without having to go down to the same level in order to build it. They can only build up by one block.
Evil for making those stairs instead of platforms for the beavers to not have to go through all that badwater
We NEED the experimental mode. It would make everything so much easier and also the shafts and the Megaqueduct(TM) would look sooooooo much cooler. Also if you're feeling cheeky you could use the space below the Megaqueduct(TM) to shame some beavers in the shadows or just put a WheelOfShame(TM) on top of the PowerTower(TM) (please call it like that) for some architects. Or put a rooftop terrace up there for the Beavles... Endless possibilities!
Also keep up your videos! I really enjoy them!
Hey, beavers can build from above! Consider building a bridge and then sealing the bad water source.
Also there is a bad water extractor, wich seals the source and extraxts a lot of badwater.
23:00 the unconnected stairs are in range of the end of the path
I made a Mega Aqueduct before the experimental. It was great. It provided water to both sides of the map.
It was the canyon map, tho, so it basically was a giant double wall at one side of the map, with platforms in the middle, but it did its job. Most of the map was green.
It also had 4 water exits: the main one (the original one), 2 that went to one side each, and a 4th one that dropped water out of the map to the same side it came from (for badtides).
It looks a lot better now that it's a propper acqueduct thanks to the update, but I'm still pround of the original desing.
(It has also ben automated now.)
Since yours goes through the middle of the map, and it's gonna take waaaay more materials, and be made in one go, I would suggest you to wait until you can use the new platforms and new stuff before designing it. For now, focus in the power tower and the volcano. (And build more builder's huts, please. It takes them hours to walk up so many stairs, and up a mountain, uphill both ways.)
Another trick I like to do is place a single dynamite on each tile of pathway, run water through the resulting channel, pop in some power lines, and cover em up with a platform and a path. You can actually connect buildings to the power system from underneath, so all you have to do to power something in a nice, orderly way is to bomb out a single tile underneath where you're building the building, place a horizontal to vertical power shaft, and build the building directly on top of it. Simple, efficient, and it looks organized! Mind you this is just how I play, just some tips, if you prefer some other way, noooo judgement here.
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the fact that its not 100k power bothers me more than it should
And that is why you build the power tower out of living quarters. They transfer power between each other. Yes, also up and down. Also, I wonder if he will read the comments telling him that the beavers can build down infinitely and he could just put platforms above the waterline before he drowns them all in the poocano.
Hope this series gets 1000 spin-offs! I love the combination of both RCE and Timberborners!
I just binged all 8 seasons of Timberborners. I gotta say, Matt, your heightened skills in the later seasons are impressive, compared to S1. You make a great beaver god. "Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make" - RCE, probably
At the source of the Megaqueduct, have two paths, each gated with a flood gate. During normal times you have the megaqueduct open, when the bad tide hits, close the megaqueduct and open the pooaqueduct, which will dispose of the poowater off the edge of the map
*Watched the rest of the video* Yep that'll work lol
Please keep this season going with the beaver nation getting happier and happier as the megaquaduct is built
You don’t need to send beavers down into the poo water to build, you can build platforms out. Or you could build a bridge using suspension bridge parts. Suspension bridges are cheaper over deep areas like the poocano than platforms and you could be the first engineer in the world to create a bridge over a poocano.
Can’t wait to see the Megaqueduct if you can build that tower and a few megadams you surely could find a way to do the aqueduct. You could try to make it like a bridge over the valley if you can do a waterproof floor. At least you won’t have to block off half the map that way and it should look pretty nice where you put it.
In the top right corner, if you press the down arrow it'll visually shave off layers so you can work below already built structures
you can use the holes in the map to pump freshwater in. More green spots to farm on.
@RealCivilEngineerGaming for the vertical power shaft you could just use some tall buildings stacked on top of each other. no need to use them for something else. the high aparment from the Iron Teeth is for example perfect for that. Yeah, its expensive in logs, but you dont have to keep track of it at least..
Everyone else is telling you you can build a platform out for the beavers to build the poop plug without your beavers getting sick. You need some sluices heading off the map and screening your megaaquaduct.
I remember making a late game super gravity battery that had like 3 million horsepower capacity at its highest and to make it most space efficient I had the staircase up to the top placed inside it then converted to where the axles went up to the top. Deleting each individual path and stair was EXCRUCIATING because you had to do each one at a time cuz if you clicked and dragged in the slightest it also selected everything else above it…
Needless to say, in my going on autopilot, I had to reopen the save several times after deleting the tower halfway down multiple times. I was so done with that whole project afterwards that I went to the games “make a suggestion” feature, relayed everything I just said in way more detail, and suggested a “quick place on stairs and paths” type feature where you can select times where you don’t need to delete these to build on top of them.
The ticket I made for the creation of the feature was put on “in consideration” a week or so later.
You could build the megaduct with half levees and half platforms to safe logs but it would take more planks.
Also beavers apparently build in de same order you place them so you should start the one where you start and then you can powershalft a whole floor of the tower at once
Save wood on the aqueduct by using the elevated platforms. you only need the walls to be as deep as the elevated channel.
5:50 I'm sure that will make some problems with contamineted Beawers in future- but really soon.
i saw it on another content creator, you can make a stack of cheap buildings (he used housing, but i think warehouses are valid too, and conect them to the bottom and top of the stack to the power grid
Switch to experimental mode. You can build a sluice gate where you have the flood gate. Tell it to close when contamination is above 1% and you'll never have to open or close it again... it's automatic.
The beavers can build Down from any height you can build platforms out to the bad water source and build the dome from above the surface.
@RealCivilEngineerGaming dont forget to have a floodgate to keep the bottom farms ect because the water your using down there now is from that open side once the aquaduct is in the bottom will dry up
Farms! Make them bigger. Put a stair besides them, so one farm can reach multiple levels, instead of an extra farm (19:25)
And remove the path that goes to nowhere.
Plant sunflowers!
Please do this in experimental, it will look better, better engineered, also beavers can build down an unlimited amount. Maybe make a peir that goes to the middle of the poocano, less unhappy and sick beavers.
And you will much prefer in the long run a dog leg aquaduct, as they are more usable especially when it comes to power and paths. You may want to have localised power on the aquaduct, could even gravity battery it up with power wheels so you can have a log, plank, gear etc district on that side, as it will be very green once your done even partially filling it with clean water.
Also the sluice gate will be great for you as you likely remember. Please go experimental.
Love the Timberborners series I’ve watched all seasons in less then two months 😅
NGL i watch for the unbridled chaos this series is, i keep wanting to give you tips but I'd definitely play this way if i was going in blind
Not me getting all excited at 17:55 about the face reveal.... before realizing lol 🤦♂
Using water tanks is more viable than relying on water sources. The water on the tanks can hold more water per scare cube and it doesn't evaporate.
It would be a good idea to give a big increase to the water tanks.
23:08 I was confused how the beavers were getting contaminated, then when he looked over the pit, I knew instantly. (I also predicted that the cut off path wouldn't stop the beavers from building that! I don't blame him fully, that is an insane distance for them to register)
Also I've watched the past 11 episodes today!
I don't know about anyone else but I wouldn't judge you for going into experimental mode to run the power shafts.
So far as the aquaduct goes, why not build a support structure with the platforms and build the channel/trough with levees? It would take a fraction of the resources and have thr same result.
Edit to add: I did the same as you with the gravity batteries, but I built the core first and used scaffolding around the exterior so the builders could access the gears and platforms. It also made it easier to build the platforms for the gravity batteries themselves.
If you have beehives covering the roads you get a negative happiness effect from them because the beavers get stung, so you should make sure the yellow part doesn't go on the roads.
I think you can build a vertical power shaft on the missing space in your rectangle skyscraper and connect from there.
rce, you can use Metal Platform too make the floor of the mégaduct and add a few levee to bring the water like Roman aqueduct.
I love Timberborners ep :D
I'm waiting for the moment when RCE realizes that he will need badwater later and that he won't be able to fill poocano with normal water and use the badwater source in the same time until next patch (or experimental)... :)
After all this years matt still have no idea that you can build down no matter what the height, so he could use platform to build the tap to the badwater
Noice
I love how he forgot the part that he was building the stairs on the poocano and was worried of how did the builders get contaminated 🤣
Matt, do you really consider replacing all stairs with shafts, stair by stair, shaft by shaft a better option than just building a 2x3 extension behind it and having it all planned at once? Sure, you would recover a lot of materials, but that's going to take a LONG time, while building a secondary tower for shafts is a thing to plan out once and let it be built over time.
18:13 petition for Matt to refer to them as posh planks again
you need to increase the wellbeing of the beavers so they can run faster and work faster so they won't get tired carrying the log that up. Make sure to create a fancy neighborhood for the Beavers where they get all the possible boosts, decorations, statues, roofs, rooftop terraces etc. Make all the diversity of food for the beavers, not just raw food or just one prepared meal, get them all.
since power transfers through buildings, you can just build houses up the side of your tower instead of shafts. or yeah, experimental :D
Maybe timberborn should implement an elevator mod. Also the new update added vertical shafts
This is probably too late to tell you... but you should be using platforms as construction scaffolding for your bad water dome. Beavers can build down infinitely, so you can create a safe walkway by stacking platforms up to the surface.
Once you have enough social life buildings, your beavers become more efficient if you reduce their working hours to 15 hours. Once you get a dance hall, reduce the working hours 14 hours. Once you have all the social life buildings, reduce it to 12. They move way faster, it saves time
All you needed was some suspension bridges and platforms, your beavers can build infinitely downwards
The river for your power wheels has fresh water running in it. Dam the poo off at the top and you’ll get a ton of free real estate around the original starting area.
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RCE not knowing you can build off the end of Bridges...such an architect... lol
You can make the badtides a lot less serious if you blocked off the larger channel at the top of the hill. The badwater would just run off the back of the map from the third outlet, largely leaving your agrarian areas untouched.