What's your thoughts on Izotopes Ozone mixing? I've tried it using Ozone elements and some of the mixes have blown out a mix or my mixes are that bad it's blown it out 😂🤷🏾♂️
You're an excellent teacher. I'm in the process of making my first tune in about 20 years and I've learned more about mixing from watching your videos than I ever did back then. Keep up the good work!
"everything else is a BONUS"... thanks Stranjah, I needed to hear this so badly and will keep this in mind when mixing in the future, as I've overcomplicated things a lot in the past and it hindered my progress and overall enjoyment from the music making process a lot!
I think the most challenging part of mixing is actually choosing/shaping sounds that will fit well together. Like often if you're struggling to get elements to fit together it's good to go right to the source. This is why I usually do some mixing as I produce, i want to make sure my core elements fit together well before i add smaller embellishments and sfx. Also i spend a lot of time trying to get the side chaining on bass just right!
Dude if I would have had someone explain mixing like this to me right off the bat it would have saved me about 3 years of beating my head against the wall maybe, we’ll half if that but…..this might be one of the best mixing tutorials out there
Excited to watch this! I always have issues with clipping (red lining) and need to re-level everything multiple times. Definitely my least favorite part of producing. I'm still learning how to improve this and limit the amount of re-leveling I need to do. Hoping you have some cool tricks, Stranjah! :D
I use the same meter. It's all you need and it works perfectly!! I usually get my kick to -2 give or take. I'll start at -2 then fine tune from there but use that as my base point. I keep all my unity gain to -5 on all my channel strips.
i've definitely kept myself overthinking about mixing and mastering, but now since i've seen this video, it helps a lot, thanks! will you eventually do a video on bass processing? how can i make my basses sound good on speakers?
Really good video. Can you do a small series on mixing each buss/group. Would love to see multiband side chain compression techniques on the drum buss group specifically. Maybe a mixing with automation and sends video as well.
Good video. My headache is then getting a perfectly ok sounding master to correct levels for streaming. Usually it's getting to -14 LUFs, but my tracks are always quiet in comparison when I've done this, and have heard people say ignore the LUFS..RUclips or whoever will be ok if it's over
i strictly mix on ear basis. same structural basis like yours. i started mixing on very low db level -16db in ableton. mixer and monitors and my os system are calibrated on 50% loudness tomget a steady level goin on my ears. all musical audio material then is brought to around that -16db level either inside the vst or with the sampler options and according to what i mix and how i wanna want it i raise or lower the levels - average down to -24 and up to -12 mostly something inbetween. every track has a chain of vst effects and an eq. same with the master, plus a compressor. i use a special trick i learned from a dan worrall video about using an eq on the master for mixing on low, and and high db level if necessary, according to how the ear hears differently. the master export file i treat then in a wav editor with tdr master eq and nova ge plus some special sauce vsts ;P
thanks again for making these videos. is there a chance that you would cover in what order the effects in the processing chain should be placed? for example why should my saturator in this case thickify be applied before or after the glue compression .. that would be very helpful. regards.
The most difficult thing for me is keeping things from getting too "dense", but most of that is learning to get better at eq-ing (using available visualizers has been a huge benefit, along with the good default channel strip eq within Cubase). I actually started using something similar to LANDR (Ozone 9 by Izotope), and it made a big difference in the final product for me when it comes to getting the balance and loudness that I am looking for. LANDR is about half the cost of Ozone 9, so that's nice, but for your money, you get more options with Ozone 9. It certainly is a CPU hog, though.
You wanna focus on arranging sounds more delicately if you get too "dense" mix. Its not usually mix issue if you feel like there is too much happening same time.
I like to think about my arrangements an mixes as a band playing live. Listening carefully to pro mixes, you realise that most of the time there are just 4-5 elements playing at the same time. So If Your track couldn't be played by a "5 piece robots band" your track is petentially too busy. I used to struggle a lot with my drums and still do. I allways remind myself not to have more than two robot drummers in my tracks. Helped me a lot.
When I'm mixing DnB I have a hard time getting fat width out of the bass sounds while keeping the sub in mono. Another big struggle is getting those crisp highs overall. I am touching the -3 LUFS but When compared to other DnB releases, my "finished" tunes are still missing a little bit of the body or that bass that fills up the room. How can I get my tracks sounding like a Mefjus release? Lol
i have a question when i cut de sub frequencies of mid sound my peak level go up how i can cut them compression doesnt work for transient so i use cliper but maybe there is better thing? tks
How to get good to mixing: Listen to a LOT of Music on your Reference Headphones. You MUST get that 90% of mixing is setting the Volume of each instrument. The rest is eq und maybe compression (most presets and samples are already compressed)
Love your vids man! Keep up the good work! Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how to stop a good mix from sounding bad after rendering… this is my biggest problem… 😓 (not sounding terrible but definitely slightly different to how it sounds in fl studio)
Can we get a video on sidechaining pluck sounds, cause I find it hard to side chain a pluck sound on a kick and it always takes away from the pluck sound and makes it not hit as hard
you can consider stereo enhancement man,the pluck should be placed in the point that the ears can focus on that.the bass should be low passed much as possible.
@@brendancarmona4521 it depends,i mean you can try varying the width of the pluck sound,there are several points that the ear can focus,smaller the width,lesser it conflict with other elements.But don't be too small that the ear can't focus.Also there is pre delay on the tool which would help. A wider width is usually used for pad or atmospheric sound elements.
because each sound,sample is different.I usually make music from totally scratch,so it's more challenging,the tonality of each sounds is different. the rule is you always need an stereo enhance for pad for adjusting the feel of the pad. and always add stero width vary with elements you feel it's out of focus. example the drum need to be well focused,the lead should be well focused and presented.
@@brendancarmona4521 one more tip for you,adding reverb with 15-30ms delay for vocal or drum will fit it well into the mix.The reverb should be high frequencies only. There are so many things to learn man/miss.I found mixing and producing from scratch really hard.
you really need to switch side of your camera or mirror it to "look" at what you're doin' on screen and not outside of it. btw great tutorial again you helped me in a crazy way to bring out my music cheers up.
I use audio vitamins for gain staging. One at first stage of the chain and one at the end of the chain. I have finished 6 tunes in 30 years so my advice is worthless. Big it Stranjah ☮️🌻☮️
no mention of the use of mono and stereo or delay or panning techniques? i know you dont want to give out all the sauce but you didnt even touch on using tab view to actually see levels of the channels when mixing..
worth noting is to really listen (&watch) your favorite music on an analyzer. watch the DB peaks through the intro and drops some mix a 6db difference between them some dont. & you'll notice not only loudness peaks but how each element has space. not often is the whole spectrum full at once. often times you can see a smooth dance between elements frequencies. if using Span -24 is about where your dominant elements peak should be if you want loud mixes.
I hate it when it sounds so good in your DAW and when exported and played, even on the same system, it sounds LIKE SHIT, waveform sits nowhere like any reference, so you're just here sitting in a state of desolation.
If your mix is good, you don't need landr for mastering, you can do it yourself, it will most probably sound better than landr, those cheap mastering engineers are way better than landr aswell, but it all comes down to that mix..
I used to have a year subscription to LANDR and I'm not going to lie, just use someone like Guzi (GZ Audio) who charges £10 per track digitally mastered (for analog I think it bumps up to £20 but still). I spoke to a mastering engineer about a track I mastered with Landr and he said it was too quiet and weak.
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What's your thoughts on Izotopes Ozone mixing? I've tried it using Ozone elements and some of the mixes have blown out a mix or my mixes are that bad it's blown it out 😂🤷🏾♂️
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@@jonbrew7207 Works for me, make sure to leave out the quotation marks: GETLANDR_STRANJAH30OFF
@@STRANJAH Weird, I did leave out the quotation marks of course, maybe it doesn't work when buying just 5 masters instead of the subscription.
You're an excellent teacher. I'm in the process of making my first tune in about 20 years and I've learned more about mixing from watching your videos than I ever did back then. Keep up the good work!
Thank that means a lot. Keep at it!
Please make more mix/mastering videos, these are very important! Much love!
Thank you Alan! 😊🙏 Really clean and straight forward explanations on mixing. Great video! ✨
Nice to hear from you and glad you liked it!
Hey hey Yalcin!! 👋
"everything else is a BONUS"... thanks Stranjah, I needed to hear this so badly and will keep this in mind when mixing in the future, as I've overcomplicated things a lot in the past and it hindered my progress and overall enjoyment from the music making process a lot!
Well the Bonus can get you even better results.
@@arqelf9505 not necessarily
Thanks
I think the most challenging part of mixing is actually choosing/shaping sounds that will fit well together. Like often if you're struggling to get elements to fit together it's good to go right to the source. This is why I usually do some mixing as I produce, i want to make sure my core elements fit together well before i add smaller embellishments and sfx.
Also i spend a lot of time trying to get the side chaining on bass just right!
Yes the it’s always the core of the issue. Sample and sound selection
Thanks Alan, this video is terrific. Such a great guide for anyone learning how to mix.
Thank you and pleasure collabing with you!
YOOOOOOOOO!!, this tutorial is just what i needed , thank you Stranjah!!!!!!!!!
Been producing for a while but I seem to have forget the basics, especially now I've got too many plugins. Good upload mate, put me back on track.
Pro q3 does have that fundamental feature. It also shows you the key of the fundamental.
Dude if I would have had someone explain mixing like this to me right off the bat it would have saved me about 3 years of beating my head against the wall maybe, we’ll half if that but…..this might be one of the best mixing tutorials out there
You almost made me cry...thx so much for this explanation. I have been losing myself in so many vids. Now I am getting some where. 🌅👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
Such a Vibe
Edm tips channels is really helpful but i missed this one. Thanks for the content. Boh.
Excited to watch this! I always have issues with clipping (red lining) and need to re-level everything multiple times. Definitely my least favorite part of producing. I'm still learning how to improve this and limit the amount of re-leveling I need to do. Hoping you have some cool tricks, Stranjah! :D
This guys, is the knowledge right there!
This is GOLD! Should have a million plus likes!
Master the mixing - that's a good one Stranjah! When do we get to mix the mastering? 😅
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Only been watching your videos along with edm tips for the last couple of weeks but my production has improved massively thanks so much 🙏
Helpful video for any genre. Great job. Would love to see more mastering and mixing techniques.
I use the same meter. It's all you need and it works perfectly!!
I usually get my kick to -2 give or take. I'll start at -2 then fine tune from there but use that as my base point.
I keep all my unity gain to -5 on all my channel strips.
i've definitely kept myself overthinking about mixing and mastering, but now since i've seen this video, it helps a lot, thanks!
will you eventually do a video on bass processing? how can i make my basses sound good on speakers?
Always good to hear other producers methods💯👍
good checklist
Great content, man! Thank you so much!
Thank you u really helped me ✌️ awesome video
excellent course thanks
Really good video. Can you do a small series on mixing each buss/group. Would love to see multiband side chain compression techniques on the drum buss group specifically. Maybe a mixing with automation and sends video as well.
Love n blessings stranjah from another stranjah you absolute legend ♥️🙏🏾👊🏿
Yes the dark stranjahhhh!
cool tutorial!
you should do one when you work with breaks to see how you balance the breaks with basslines for example in old school jungle!
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Love these types of videos man, mixing & mastering is definitely a topic you should touch on again
Thanks man will try more!
thanks so much for this i will be rewatching and implementing these techniques to really get the hang of this. excellent content as always!!!
Good video. My headache is then getting a perfectly ok sounding master to correct levels for streaming. Usually it's getting to -14 LUFs, but my tracks are always quiet in comparison when I've done this, and have heard people say ignore the LUFS..RUclips or whoever will be ok if it's over
thanks alot for this but it makes me wonder when you adjust levels first and then do the eqing the levels would have changed alot.
Thank you for more great content!
i strictly mix on ear basis. same structural basis like yours. i started mixing on very low db level -16db in ableton. mixer and monitors and my os system are calibrated on 50% loudness tomget a steady level goin on my ears. all musical audio material then is brought to around that -16db level either inside the vst or with the sampler options and according to what i mix and how i wanna want it i raise or lower the levels - average down to -24 and up to -12 mostly something inbetween. every track has a chain of vst effects and an eq. same with the master, plus a compressor. i use a special trick i learned from a dan worrall video about using an eq on the master for mixing on low, and and high db level if necessary, according to how the ear hears differently. the master export file i treat then in a wav editor with tdr master eq and nova ge plus some special sauce vsts ;P
Good technique!
thanks again for making these videos. is there a chance that you would cover in what order the effects in the processing chain should be placed? for example why should my saturator in this case thickify be applied before or after the glue compression .. that would be very helpful. regards.
Hi stranjah i would be thankful if you can make tutorial about how to make kick n snare like delta heavy, they signature drum, like in Kill Room track
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@@STRANJAH thanks you
Nice video!
Problem i find using reference tracks is that they are mastered. I know you can reduce the gain but there still polished tracks.
The most difficult thing for me is keeping things from getting too "dense", but most of that is learning to get better at eq-ing (using available visualizers has been a huge benefit, along with the good default channel strip eq within Cubase). I actually started using something similar to LANDR (Ozone 9 by Izotope), and it made a big difference in the final product for me when it comes to getting the balance and loudness that I am looking for. LANDR is about half the cost of Ozone 9, so that's nice, but for your money, you get more options with Ozone 9. It certainly is a CPU hog, though.
You wanna focus on arranging sounds more delicately if you get too "dense" mix. Its not usually mix issue if you feel like there is too much happening same time.
I like to think about my arrangements an mixes as a band playing live. Listening carefully to pro mixes, you realise that most of the time there are just 4-5 elements playing at the same time. So If Your track couldn't be played by a "5 piece robots band" your track is petentially too busy. I used to struggle a lot with my drums and still do. I allways remind myself not to have more than two robot drummers in my tracks. Helped me a lot.
@@jcdenton868 Yeah, I know that's been a problem for me as well, as I tend to get carried away sometimes.
When I'm mixing DnB I have a hard time getting fat width out of the bass sounds while keeping the sub in mono. Another big struggle is getting those crisp highs overall. I am touching the -3 LUFS but When compared to other DnB releases, my "finished" tunes are still missing a little bit of the body or that bass that fills up the room.
How can I get my tracks sounding like a Mefjus release? Lol
Compare different areas of your track to a reference to find out whats missing.
My Audius ninja! Good to see you my friend! Necrosisdnb here ;)
i have a question when i cut de sub frequencies of mid sound my peak level go up how i can cut them compression doesnt work for transient so i use cliper but maybe there is better thing? tks
This is pretty much how i do it now... subconsciously. But thanks for the video man! Very helpful 👍
-6db standard for sub (spectrum), after limiter
Very interesting, thanks.
Great info and the track is a banger :)
Making the perfect kick and. bass level.
How to get good to mixing: Listen to a LOT of Music on your Reference Headphones. You MUST get that 90% of mixing is setting the Volume of each instrument. The rest is eq und maybe compression (most presets and samples are already compressed)
Love your vids man! Keep up the good work! Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on how to stop a good mix from sounding bad after rendering… this is my biggest problem… 😓 (not sounding terrible but definitely slightly different to how it sounds in fl studio)
Is mono-ing sub frequencies still a thing or was that just good practice when having stuff cut to vinyl?
Could you share the ableton skin you're using?
Can we get a video on sidechaining pluck sounds, cause I find it hard to side chain a pluck sound on a kick and it always takes away from the pluck sound and makes it not hit as hard
you can consider stereo enhancement man,the pluck should be placed in the point that the ears can focus on that.the bass should be low passed much as possible.
@@lanmichaelmix2818 do you mean like add more stereo width to the pluck?
@@brendancarmona4521 it depends,i mean you can try varying the width of the pluck sound,there are several points that the ear can focus,smaller the width,lesser it conflict with other elements.But don't be too small that the ear can't focus.Also there is pre delay on the tool which would help.
A wider width is usually used for pad or atmospheric sound elements.
because each sound,sample is different.I usually make music from totally scratch,so it's more challenging,the tonality of each sounds is different.
the rule is you always need an stereo enhance for pad for adjusting the feel of the pad.
and always add stero width vary with elements you feel it's out of focus.
example the drum need to be well focused,the lead should be well focused and presented.
@@brendancarmona4521 one more tip for you,adding reverb with 15-30ms delay for vocal or drum will fit it well into the mix.The reverb should be high frequencies only.
There are so many things to learn man/miss.I found mixing and producing from scratch really hard.
I knew I didn't know what I was doing and this video confirms it 🤣
you really need to switch side of your camera or mirror it to "look" at what you're doin' on screen and not outside of it. btw great tutorial again you helped me in a crazy way to bring out my music cheers up.
i always do this under the process when writing
Man, I feel so bad that I had not seen this video before, thank you so much for what you doing🙏Gonna study these principles right away🎉
I use audio vitamins for gain staging. One at first stage of the chain and one at the end of the chain. I have finished 6 tunes in 30 years so my advice is worthless. Big it Stranjah ☮️🌻☮️
nice!
compression is fancy???
If you wanna go that deep, then even arrangement is mixing
dillinjah feel
dudes about to sell me on landr 😩
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So Landr is like Ozone 10?
no mention of the use of mono and stereo or delay or panning techniques? i know you dont want to give out all the sauce but you didnt even touch on using tab view to actually see levels of the channels when mixing..
worth noting is to really listen (&watch) your favorite music on an analyzer. watch the DB peaks through the intro and drops some mix a 6db difference between them some dont. & you'll notice not only loudness peaks but how each element has space. not often is the whole spectrum full at once. often times you can see a smooth dance between elements frequencies. if using Span -24 is about where your dominant elements peak should be if you want loud mixes.
The hardest part of mixing is figuring out what's wrong with your mix.
Title confused me for a sec 😂
I thought that would be confusing too, should I change it?
I hate it when it sounds so good in your DAW and when exported and played, even on the same system, it sounds LIKE SHIT, waveform sits nowhere like any reference, so you're just here sitting in a state of desolation.
If your mix is good, you don't need landr for mastering, you can do it yourself, it will most probably sound better than landr, those cheap mastering engineers are way better than landr aswell, but it all comes down to that mix..
I used to have a year subscription to LANDR and I'm not going to lie, just use someone like Guzi (GZ Audio) who charges £10 per track digitally mastered (for analog I think it bumps up to £20 but still). I spoke to a mastering engineer about a track I mastered with Landr and he said it was too quiet and weak.