How the hell do you manage to miss shots with stuff like the Zimmerman? If anything you not being able to hit shit is either because you got the wrong type of FCS on your build or you just mash the fire button when your crosshair is still trying to get to your target
@@purpleboye_ If you're having trouble landing shots you may be firing before your FCS 'locks on'. When you hardlock your reticle turns red and lags behind your target, and when it snaps onto your target your FCS is 'locked on' and will fairly accurately land shots on your targets. The range 'correction' from close/mid/long is just the time your FCS takes to 'lock on'. 'Firearm Spec.' on your arms determines the modifier of your FCS timer. The higher the spec the faster you snap on when your target enters range or after they QB. The Weuger uncharged is 'meh' as a laser weapon, the other shotgun is better for ranged combat, but the melee attack it has for a charged shot comes out quick, has a big hitbox, and hitstuns targets which disrupts certain things like drones being active etc. You want to equip arms with a decent firearm spec with it, an FCS with a good close-range modifier, and you want to get close to your target to use that weapon
@@sleekthrone7135 There's not a lot of feedback for determining when you even hit your target so I may have been hitting more than I thought I was but just couldn't stagger the opponent so it felt like nothing was happening. Naturally if you can't get a stagger and punish it you wont be winning since the game revolves around it so heavily.
@purpleboye_ you get a lot of feed back when you hit as the stagger bar will jump and you'll get a 'HIT' notification under their health bar. You'll hear a louder ping sort of noise if your shots Ricochet. If you're not getting feedback you might not be paying attention or missing entirely
For anyone using the rifles, smgs, etc it is VITAL that you push your game to 120 FPS by any means. It was discovered that your accuracy and hit rate will actually improve by a great amount by just increasing your FPS. I found it to be a massive improvement and I'm honestly enjoying the game again now that I have access to using so many more weapons in A-S rank without getting steamrolled. It probably explains why on this list, the rifles and SMGs are placed lower on this list although we're all seeing rifles and SMGs all over the top 100 now.
Gonna go ahead and press the doubt button until I see a direct side by side video comparison with showcased results because I've never heard or seen it from anyone. Sounds more like personal placebo hype because you got a new toy at home
I still have nightmares about the 2x Zim, yo-yo, quad builds that terrorized PvP when this game first came out. Thank god quad kicks aren’t as good anymore.
Flame granade is called a Napalm bomb launcher (MA-T-222 KYORAI). It carried me up to A-2 rank, no more than that. Yes you can use it. Perhaps you could somehow go higher in ranks if you had more time and nerves to invest into this weapon. edit- nope, still good in A3. If you can land a hit- hell it does hit. Its damn fun.
The jammer is SUCH an underrated weapon, along with the pulse shield launcher. I use them both on a double ML build and I've gotten all the way to S-promos with it, still working on getting S but it's mostly a time game and I only get so often to grind out rank matches. I've got a video in the works detailing a full breakdown of the jammer+shield launcher, hoping to get more people to understand just how good they are.
I like using ducketts, I just wish they buffed the effective range a bit to be more usable against heavies cuz I suuuuure love ricochets. Nebulas have been the bane of my existence with me usually going a close range lightweight setup.
I have to disagree on the Ducketts and Laser Slicer. The impact of the Ducketts makes up for it's fire rate in my experience, and still can stagger faster than a pre-nerf BVO if used in a double trigger build. The main downside is the projectile velocity, but close up (where you should be) it isn't too much of an issue. The laser slicer is an absurd stagger punish if you run a close up build. The damage is worth the risk of the target escaping in my experience.
So the way the math works out: - Stagger falls off in 2 seconds. - Duckett fires 3/7 shots in those 2 seconds. (approx. 450 floating stagger) - Coquillett fires 5/7 shots in those 2 seconds. (approx. 430 floating stagger) - Duckett ends up producing 1504 impact in ~4.1 seconds. - Coquillett end up producing a similar 1473 impact in ~2.8 seconds. - Since this isn't usually enough to stagger someone, you end up having to fire two clips. - Duckett can complete this in ~10.7 seconds. - Coquillett does the same thing in ~7.7 seconds. - The more clips you fire, the more this effect adds up. As for slicer, it just doesn't do enough additional damage vs pulse blade. Any time the slicer bug happens, you lose instantly; that wipes away 30 wins of progress on the ladder (prob more like 5 if you're playing BVO) and I am not down for that.
It seems like after watching a few of these tier videos I could set the good shotgun at the top and just hit random for the rest. All these lists have very different rankings. Which I'm pretty happy about.
Laser Lance is actually really good with a charged Wuerger. If you hit the Wuerger (which you almost always will because it's attacker side hit detection) you can go right into the charged lance and shred people. Not a true combo but it's consistent.
OK like 10 min in and sorry but like, thinking of kicks in a tier list is lowkey like blowing my mind when I’m actually thinking it through and like “oh yeah, my off meta builds all win when I land kicks and kicking is usually the best thing to do at many a moment” and yeah, the kicks really are better than that much shit, my first vid of yours and I love it! Edit: regarding Haldemann and stagger build up, haldemann has a significantly better impact/accumulated impact ratio than zimm. I mostly memed around with it and a shoulder gat so it would never reset when shoulder gat first came out and spent some ime with it on a laser dagger build before that, I wanna do that again now Edit 2: chunky duo missile might have potential on some sort of waterskimmer or whatever folks call them, since it keeps shooting while boosting and can get them with weird ass angles.
My beloved Hu-Ben... I wish the dev team would give it some kind of a buff, along with all other non-etsujen MGs so they can be usable. maybe give the gat less spread? that way more bullets would actually hit?
@@chlorastroklos IMO what vert missiles need is an explosion AOE so that despite only hitting next to peoples feet, they could use their hypothetical burst to tag normal boosting targets along the ground, similarly to how the pestwerz in 5th gen behaved.
Huben and shao combo so well with the chainsaw on a heavy build but with how weak huben and how broken chainsaw is your going to suffer im working through A tier with them now but its a struggle currently
Disagree on Pilebunker and Stun baton. 1) Pilebunker- just a strong stagger punish, the strongest at its job, no idea why you put it so low, I consider this nothing but a skill issue of yours. It should be in A tier. 2) As for stun baton- I can't actually play with it myself but I've seen builds where they use it to permanently stun the enemy putting them into something like an infinite short circuit loop once they're staggered. So, this weapon is not unusable, it has it's very specific niche build, kinda like Aperitif or other meme weapons.
Personally, i think the laser turrets are better than the laser drones. The drones are incredibly easy to dodge, and i genuinly have not lost to them once. With turrets not only is it harder to dodge becuse you controll where they are, but you also controll your opponent. I also think the explosive thrower should be higher, but im willing to admit that one is just bais, becuase i love that weapon to death.
What's the counter to the Quad shotgun build? (2 Zimmermans, 2 Haldeman). I've tried using Shields to counter but the shotguns just overwhelm the shield so fast.
Yeah shields don't have enough uptime. I would suggest playing a tank or a quad with high stability, and running the HMMR to punish them when they get close. You will have a harder time beating Lamm. Some players have solved this by manual aiming big cannons like LCB or LCD, others play weapons that pressure Lamm like Nebula + 2 missiles. Look through the top 100 builds for players who use HMMR or cannons. (Once they're up there.) - Aphrodite - Kyne - Lord Farquad - Navigator - Scorch - Sea Knight of Ea (Not mentioning Lamms because their stability is more like what you're already playing probably.)
How does the pulse blade deal a similar damage to the slicer? Like, yeah, if you're swinging the slicer raw... But it literally one-shots most ACs if you get them into a stagger first. Pulse Blade is still way better, as it's easier to use and has better movement options, plus the angle is amazing, but I just don't think the comparison should really be made at all like that.
In most harder matchups they both require two rotations to kill your opponent. There aren't really many matchups where you need three pulse blades to kill, but only two slicers.
@@chlorastroklos aaah yeah when you break it down like that it makes sense. I'm into PVP but I'm not that good yet so things like taking into consideration exactly how many rotations the more prominent builds take to kill didn't occur to me. Thanks for explaining!
I use an explosive thrower on my slicer build and it preforms better, usually enough to kill them in one cycle thanks to the extra damage. And if not, it flows direct into another hit of the explosive thrower, and while thrower> slicer> thrower isn't a true combo, it's almost impossible to dodge. It's usually fast enough to still get the stagger damage bonus as well, and if not oh well you kickstart the stagger bar. It's a win-win regardless the outcome. One of the only scerios I have found that makes slicer actively better than pulse blade. Takes some skill in awareness of your opponents reloads to run on a BVO, but very worth while. You should try it if you insist on using da funni rusty swords
I have been messing with the chaff launchers since day one. They are high A and low S but are hella tricky to make work in ranked with lack of major damage output while no fcs lock. Definitely worth a try even just for giggles 😂
The needle still destroy enemies in pve. If you see the patch notes in 1.06 they had increased the attack power. Another time... This weapon is bit cheat in pve
I think we need a big patch for that. The game feels pretty solved right now for me. There's not really enough top-tier stuff. Lamm, LRBster, Omatank, and LCBTank are basically all I think is good.
I see... Also you mentioned running VE 20B for moonlight, i heard that energy weapon spec doesnt work for melee weapon, does it work for moonlight specifically? Thanks!
After the nerf to it's accumulative impact, I would be putting the Viento MUCH lower than that on the list. The clip size is small, the dps is trash, reload time is undesirable, the range is about as small as machine guns, and it takes a lot more effort than before to stagger with it. Even the Sampu is better at building stagger now. If you want a comparison: I used the Sampus in replacement of Vientos on my stagger melee build. And when I would fight another similar build using Vientos, I would win against them every time with little stress or effort. They are just that bad now.
Its so dumb that majestic is better than guan-ge in almost every way and also lighter and less en load, and also id say laser rifle better than ransetsu rf if you run it with 20b gen
25:48 Not too surprising. Not only you have to be in the right place at the right time, you better pray that the netcode is being nice and hope that you get the charged attack off first before your opponent pops PA.
Your list has some really odd placements, Laser is better the plasma rifle? see way more plasmas but other then that seeing so many peoples diff opinion maybe shows the game is healthy
@@chlorastroklos i think its strong, its just hard for me to take a giant ordered tier list too seriously lol game has way more variables then the average fighter, still keep it up
@@KindKraken I think you'll find in time at the highest level of play it's unbelievable how good consistency is. The LCS is too inconsistent against the best players, missing often. Nebula never misses.
how is the jammer A-tier?! who's playing it at a high tier, cuz I clearly am missing something. and i like the weird weapons (given up on napalm tho lol)
PANDAMAN is the best smoke player I have seen. Channel here: ruclips.net/video/Aw8G6Y9Endw/видео.html Toasty is also quite good at it, although I don't think he does any tech videos. :P
Probably not if you're on global matchmaking. The way From Software configured the matchmaking, it's difficult to find matches if you're just starting out. If you head to the armored core discord linked in the description, they can probably help you find matches.
@@Vahloksavjul I'm not sure how to make the noodle gun work. I've seen one player use it as a keepaway tool with kbm but on controller it seems much worse. Rebula is good at close range but you need to be a quad or tank to avoid the stance. Normal nebula is again better on quad and tank. Disc-OH! won the biggest tournament playing it on biped by abusing coral shield when he would stance with it, but I think the stance is too much of a detriment now for biped.
@@chlorastroklosRetargeting your opponent with orbits active causes them to reset and fire again instantly, if you are playing with mouse you can rapidly take your opponent on and off screen causing them to rapid fire without overheating, it takes a little bit practice but you can almost insta kill your opponent if you get it right. honestly surprised more people aren't abusing it online, though maybe people are scared of being banned for exploiting it.
They buffed these weapons in 1.06 IIRC. I don't really know how rifle kites win but it's been a thing since GEKIRO got to S rank first with it last season.
@@chlorastroklos Ya because currently #2 in the world is a Dual Harris build. I fought them a lot last season and they just seemed to land far more shots than I ever could. Maybe a manual aim God?
@@Captain_Mace I run a couple of different double trigger builds and something I've noticed in general is you hit a lot more with well aimed softlock (I've found centred or slightly leading the target to be best) than hardlock, especially against faster opponents. Another comment says higher FPS apparently also helps and I'm normally running at 90+FPS. So these might be factors to consider.
harris a meme weapon oof rly ? i play harris dual gem on light AC with 2x2 missil on each soulder funny as hell (i guess this make harris a meme weapon).. But actually some light AC with dual harris are good not smell meme for me he dual harris with occelus . Playing a B tier weapon ( a mid weapon not good but not bad either is a meme ? nice go play the top meta or not mentality ) That why so many people dont want to try some fun and average build so much people sleep on top tier build when no clue how to play . Number make your equipement S tier but with a good AC pilot every weapon is a threat . Almost .
How clever of you, recognizing the true broken strength of Delivery Boy but putting it in D tier since D stands for Delivery. Very sneaky
Lmao, that weapon is hilarious
Man this perfectly explains why pvp is so miserable.
None of the weapons I like are good and I can never even hit with any of the good weapons.
How the hell do you manage to miss shots with stuff like the Zimmerman? If anything you not being able to hit shit is either because you got the wrong type of FCS on your build or you just mash the fire button when your crosshair is still trying to get to your target
@@CoolBird420 I just mostly refuse to play with the zims because I'm a hipster but I've spent entire games whiffing weuger shots if you can believe it
@@purpleboye_ If you're having trouble landing shots you may be firing before your FCS 'locks on'. When you hardlock your reticle turns red and lags behind your target, and when it snaps onto your target your FCS is 'locked on' and will fairly accurately land shots on your targets. The range 'correction' from close/mid/long is just the time your FCS takes to 'lock on'. 'Firearm Spec.' on your arms determines the modifier of your FCS timer. The higher the spec the faster you snap on when your target enters range or after they QB.
The Weuger uncharged is 'meh' as a laser weapon, the other shotgun is better for ranged combat, but the melee attack it has for a charged shot comes out quick, has a big hitbox, and hitstuns targets which disrupts certain things like drones being active etc. You want to equip arms with a decent firearm spec with it, an FCS with a good close-range modifier, and you want to get close to your target to use that weapon
@@sleekthrone7135 There's not a lot of feedback for determining when you even hit your target so I may have been hitting more than I thought I was but just couldn't stagger the opponent so it felt like nothing was happening. Naturally if you can't get a stagger and punish it you wont be winning since the game revolves around it so heavily.
@purpleboye_ you get a lot of feed back when you hit as the stagger bar will jump and you'll get a 'HIT' notification under their health bar. You'll hear a louder ping sort of noise if your shots Ricochet. If you're not getting feedback you might not be paying attention or missing entirely
Dboy is S tier confirmed
Just skip 56:00... And maybe close your eyes for the last part.
For anyone using the rifles, smgs, etc it is VITAL that you push your game to 120 FPS by any means. It was discovered that your accuracy and hit rate will actually improve by a great amount by just increasing your FPS. I found it to be a massive improvement and I'm honestly enjoying the game again now that I have access to using so many more weapons in A-S rank without getting steamrolled. It probably explains why on this list, the rifles and SMGs are placed lower on this list although we're all seeing rifles and SMGs all over the top 100 now.
Why I need to switch from my old Xbox to PC, I think I'm hitting 30-60 at best
@helixwash4508 On Xbox you shoukd be hitting 60fps. Unless you are playing with the prioritize framerare off which you can turn on in the settings.
Gonna go ahead and press the doubt button until I see a direct side by side video comparison with showcased results because I've never heard or seen it from anyone.
Sounds more like personal placebo hype because you got a new toy at home
@@SirBagsAlot-fj3pe ruclips.net/video/7kl5Ixj9sS4/видео.html You're welcome. I switched to 120 FPS and right away saw massive improvement.
I still have nightmares about the 2x Zim, yo-yo, quad builds that terrorized PvP when this game first came out. Thank god quad kicks aren’t as good anymore.
You and me both. Verrill died for our sins.
Flame granade is called a Napalm bomb launcher (MA-T-222 KYORAI). It carried me up to A-2 rank, no more than that. Yes you can use it. Perhaps you could somehow go higher in ranks if you had more time and nerves to invest into this weapon.
edit- nope, still good in A3. If you can land a hit- hell it does hit. Its damn fun.
The jammer is SUCH an underrated weapon, along with the pulse shield launcher. I use them both on a double ML build and I've gotten all the way to S-promos with it, still working on getting S but it's mostly a time game and I only get so often to grind out rank matches. I've got a video in the works detailing a full breakdown of the jammer+shield launcher, hoping to get more people to understand just how good they are.
2 dizzy and 2 earshot is hilarious. Is it really good? No… but it’s hilarious.
I like using ducketts, I just wish they buffed the effective range a bit to be more usable against heavies cuz I suuuuure love ricochets. Nebulas have been the bane of my existence with me usually going a close range lightweight setup.
the therapist and chaff launchers are such dark horse picks, nice to see someone rate them high tbh
I have to disagree on the Ducketts and Laser Slicer. The impact of the Ducketts makes up for it's fire rate in my experience, and still can stagger faster than a pre-nerf BVO if used in a double trigger build. The main downside is the projectile velocity, but close up (where you should be) it isn't too much of an issue. The laser slicer is an absurd stagger punish if you run a close up build. The damage is worth the risk of the target escaping in my experience.
So the way the math works out:
- Stagger falls off in 2 seconds.
- Duckett fires 3/7 shots in those 2 seconds. (approx. 450 floating stagger)
- Coquillett fires 5/7 shots in those 2 seconds. (approx. 430 floating stagger)
- Duckett ends up producing 1504 impact in ~4.1 seconds.
- Coquillett end up producing a similar 1473 impact in ~2.8 seconds.
- Since this isn't usually enough to stagger someone, you end up having to fire two clips.
- Duckett can complete this in ~10.7 seconds.
- Coquillett does the same thing in ~7.7 seconds.
- The more clips you fire, the more this effect adds up.
As for slicer, it just doesn't do enough additional damage vs pulse blade. Any time the slicer bug happens, you lose instantly; that wipes away 30 wins of progress on the ladder (prob more like 5 if you're playing BVO) and I am not down for that.
It seems like after watching a few of these tier videos I could set the good shotgun at the top and just hit random for the rest. All these lists have very different rankings. Which I'm pretty happy about.
Laser Lance is actually really good with a charged Wuerger. If you hit the Wuerger (which you almost always will because it's attacker side hit detection) you can go right into the charged lance and shred people. Not a true combo but it's consistent.
"it doesn't need to work great, it just needs to work..." kind of energy
OK like 10 min in and sorry but like, thinking of kicks in a tier list is lowkey like blowing my mind when I’m actually thinking it through and like “oh yeah, my off meta builds all win when I land kicks and kicking is usually the best thing to do at many a moment” and yeah, the kicks really are better than that much shit, my first vid of yours and I love it!
Edit: regarding Haldemann and stagger build up, haldemann has a significantly better impact/accumulated impact ratio than zimm. I mostly memed around with it and a shoulder gat so it would never reset when shoulder gat first came out and spent some ime with it on a laser dagger build before that, I wanna do that again now
Edit 2: chunky duo missile might have potential on some sort of waterskimmer or whatever folks call them, since it keeps shooting while boosting and can get them with weird ass angles.
Thanks for your vids, you taught me how to play!
Very quality reasoning , to the point as well
Gatling and attache are my most used weapons, they do so good
My beloved Hu-Ben... I wish the dev team would give it some kind of a buff, along with all other non-etsujen MGs so they can be usable. maybe give the gat less spread? that way more bullets would actually hit?
Yeah I'm hoping automatic weapons and vertical missiles get a buff in the next patch.
@@chlorastroklos IMO what vert missiles need is an explosion AOE so that despite only hitting next to peoples feet, they could use their hypothetical burst to tag normal boosting targets along the ground, similarly to how the pestwerz in 5th gen behaved.
@@theneer-do-well3240 My thoughts exactly. 5th geners know.
Huben and shao combo so well with the chainsaw on a heavy build but with how weak huben and how broken chainsaw is your going to suffer im working through A tier with them now but its a struggle currently
LASER TURRET MENTIONED (i am the laser turret guy)
Disagree on Pilebunker and Stun baton.
1) Pilebunker- just a strong stagger punish, the strongest at its job, no idea why you put it so low, I consider this nothing but a skill issue of yours. It should be in A tier.
2) As for stun baton- I can't actually play with it myself but I've seen builds where they use it to permanently stun the enemy putting them into something like an infinite short circuit loop once they're staggered. So, this weapon is not unusable, it has it's very specific niche build, kinda like Aperitif or other meme weapons.
Personally, i think the laser turrets are better than the laser drones. The drones are incredibly easy to dodge, and i genuinly have not lost to them once. With turrets not only is it harder to dodge becuse you controll where they are, but you also controll your opponent. I also think the explosive thrower should be higher, but im willing to admit that one is just bais, becuase i love that weapon to death.
What's the counter to the Quad shotgun build? (2 Zimmermans, 2 Haldeman). I've tried using Shields to counter but the shotguns just overwhelm the shield so fast.
Yeah shields don't have enough uptime. I would suggest playing a tank or a quad with high stability, and running the HMMR to punish them when they get close. You will have a harder time beating Lamm. Some players have solved this by manual aiming big cannons like LCB or LCD, others play weapons that pressure Lamm like Nebula + 2 missiles.
Look through the top 100 builds for players who use HMMR or cannons. (Once they're up there.)
- Aphrodite
- Kyne
- Lord Farquad
- Navigator
- Scorch
- Sea Knight of Ea
(Not mentioning Lamms because their stability is more like what you're already playing probably.)
:)
Dodge.
pre dodge
How does the pulse blade deal a similar damage to the slicer? Like, yeah, if you're swinging the slicer raw... But it literally one-shots most ACs if you get them into a stagger first. Pulse Blade is still way better, as it's easier to use and has better movement options, plus the angle is amazing, but I just don't think the comparison should really be made at all like that.
In most harder matchups they both require two rotations to kill your opponent. There aren't really many matchups where you need three pulse blades to kill, but only two slicers.
@@chlorastroklos aaah yeah when you break it down like that it makes sense. I'm into PVP but I'm not that good yet so things like taking into consideration exactly how many rotations the more prominent builds take to kill didn't occur to me. Thanks for explaining!
I use an explosive thrower on my slicer build and it preforms better, usually enough to kill them in one cycle thanks to the extra damage. And if not, it flows direct into another hit of the explosive thrower, and while thrower> slicer> thrower isn't a true combo, it's almost impossible to dodge. It's usually fast enough to still get the stagger damage bonus as well, and if not oh well you kickstart the stagger bar. It's a win-win regardless the outcome. One of the only scerios I have found that makes slicer actively better than pulse blade.
Takes some skill in awareness of your opponents reloads to run on a BVO, but very worth while. You should try it if you insist on using da funni rusty swords
I have been messing with the chaff launchers since day one. They are high A and low S but are hella tricky to make work in ranked with lack of major damage output while no fcs lock. Definitely worth a try even just for giggles 😂
Have you thought about doing Armored Core 5 next? No one has done a good playthrough of that.
I will sometime in the future. I am going to re-do all of my playthroughs as well because I scuffed the recordings' framerates.
The needle still destroy enemies in pve. If you see the patch notes in 1.06 they had increased the attack power. Another time... This weapon is bit cheat in pve
the roblem with handguns is the recoil, it's way too high to be usable without 30 t arms and nt great on heavy builds
Love the vid! Would be great if you can do some build videos haha, will definitely watch them if u do!
I think we need a big patch for that. The game feels pretty solved right now for me. There's not really enough top-tier stuff. Lamm, LRBster, Omatank, and LCBTank are basically all I think is good.
I see... Also you mentioned running VE 20B for moonlight, i heard that energy weapon spec doesnt work for melee weapon, does it work for moonlight specifically? Thanks!
@@benhzy9609 Yes it does, in patch 1.06 they changed this.
@@chlorastroklos ohh i see, thanks for the info!!
I slept on the curtis for a while but its repeatable charge shot(x3 b4 overheat) is crazy on a rifle build!
After the nerf to it's accumulative impact, I would be putting the Viento MUCH lower than that on the list. The clip size is small, the dps is trash, reload time is undesirable, the range is about as small as machine guns, and it takes a lot more effort than before to stagger with it. Even the Sampu is better at building stagger now. If you want a comparison: I used the Sampus in replacement of Vientos on my stagger melee build. And when I would fight another similar build using Vientos, I would win against them every time with little stress or effort. They are just that bad now.
I use dizzys alot and got to S rank with them, so you can see how they are by looking at my vids :). Iridium is pretty nice on dual earshot lamm
I think unbiasedly coral oscillator and smoke are S rank but I also think u are right chlora ❤
Well, either Gatling gun darker Best gun in the game
Its so dumb that majestic is better than guan-ge in almost every way and also lighter and less en load, and also id say laser rifle better than ransetsu rf if you run it with 20b gen
25:48 Not too surprising. Not only you have to be in the right place at the right time, you better pray that the netcode is being nice and hope that you get the charged attack off first before your opponent pops PA.
Why is the shoulder chaingun considered good but hand machine guns with seemingly similar stats aren't?
Hand weapons are generally more powerful than shoulder weapons. That's why the swapping weapons strategies work as well.
why is the walter worse than the coral rifle?
Your list has some really odd placements, Laser is better the plasma rifle? see way more plasmas but other then that seeing so many peoples diff opinion maybe shows the game is healthy
I suspect you're seeing the Nebula, which you'll note is the very best weapon in the game in my opinion.
@@chlorastroklos i think its strong, its just hard for me to take a giant ordered tier list too seriously lol game has way more variables then the average fighter, still keep it up
its def not better the lcs lol
@@KindKraken I think you'll find in time at the highest level of play it's unbelievable how good consistency is. The LCS is too inconsistent against the best players, missing often. Nebula never misses.
how is the jammer A-tier?! who's playing it at a high tier, cuz I clearly am missing something. and i like the weird weapons (given up on napalm tho lol)
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PANDAMAN is the best smoke player I have seen. Channel here: ruclips.net/video/Aw8G6Y9Endw/видео.html Toasty is also quite good at it, although I don't think he does any tech videos. :P
i can’t find any matches for online battles, am i doing something wrong?
Probably not if you're on global matchmaking. The way From Software configured the matchmaking, it's difficult to find matches if you're just starting out. If you head to the armored core discord linked in the description, they can probably help you find matches.
Hey was wondering, what’s the trick to making the coral weapons work? I’m trying to find a good high level build that uses em. Thanks!
Can you be more specific? Which coral weapons? They're pretty diverse.
@@chlorastroklos mainly the Walter laser and red nebula
@@chlorastroklos also I was wondering if there is a way to make the normal nebula work on a biped
@@Vahloksavjul I'm not sure how to make the noodle gun work. I've seen one player use it as a keepaway tool with kbm but on controller it seems much worse.
Rebula is good at close range but you need to be a quad or tank to avoid the stance.
Normal nebula is again better on quad and tank. Disc-OH! won the biggest tournament playing it on biped by abusing coral shield when he would stance with it, but I think the stance is too much of a detriment now for biped.
@@chlorastroklosmmm okay thanks! What about lasers on a biped?
Laser Orbit glitch makes it S tier easy.
elaborate?
@@chlorastroklosRetargeting your opponent with orbits active causes them to reset and fire again instantly, if you are playing with mouse you can rapidly take your opponent on and off screen causing them to rapid fire without overheating, it takes a little bit practice but you can almost insta kill your opponent if you get it right. honestly surprised more people aren't abusing it online, though maybe people are scared of being banned for exploiting it.
Wow coquette in D tier under duckett, in all my testing and pvp runs coquette has dominated vs the duckett as a stagger tool. Can someone elaborate?
I think you got this backwards.
Ohhhhh you're right, I got the names mixed up and you got the images mixed up I was really perplexed lol
Truenos should be a tier
I'm seeing multiple double Harris and double Etsujin builds within even the top 20. Was there something discovered recently?
They buffed these weapons in 1.06 IIRC. I don't really know how rifle kites win but it's been a thing since GEKIRO got to S rank first with it last season.
@@chlorastroklos Ya because currently #2 in the world is a Dual Harris build. I fought them a lot last season and they just seemed to land far more shots than I ever could. Maybe a manual aim God?
@@Captain_Mace I run a couple of different double trigger builds and something I've noticed in general is you hit a lot more with well aimed softlock (I've found centred or slightly leading the target to be best) than hardlock, especially against faster opponents. Another comment says higher FPS apparently also helps and I'm normally running at 90+FPS. So these might be factors to consider.
Top 100 on Xbox. Great video bro.
I want to like your video, but the audio is extremely faint. What? Huh? I'm sure you have a lot to say but we need to be able to hear you.
Appreciate the audio feedback! I need to figure out a good strategy for this.
How would I find a build? Does this work for PVE too
where’s needle
C Tier
harris a meme weapon oof rly ? i play harris dual gem on light AC with 2x2 missil on each soulder funny as hell (i guess this make harris a meme weapon).. But actually some light AC with dual harris are good not smell meme for me he dual harris with occelus .
Playing a B tier weapon ( a mid weapon not good but not bad either is a meme ? nice go play the top meta or not mentality ) That why so many people dont want to try some fun and average build so much people sleep on top tier build when no clue how to play .
Number make your equipement S tier but with a good AC pilot every weapon is a threat . Almost .
Zimmerman BLOW 1v1