There is a VERY GOOD reason I don't drive F1 cars! | iRacing Mercedes W13 at Silverstone
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My respect for F1 talent quadrupled after running F1 cars in Iracing.
very underated comment. that's what me and my iracing buddies said!
Seriously, the biggest opponent isnt other drivers, its yourself trying to not make a massive mistake for 20 minutes.
Haha now try it in real life with gforce, risk of injury, trashing an expensive car, and losing your job
For Ferrari drivers even more.
Imagine driving this, while coming up with strategies. Oof.
Same here... O bought the F1 car as soon as I reached A Class, did one practice session, realized how much I still have to learn and went back to the F4 car. Never touched the F1 car since 😂
Yes Dave!! Come to the F1 darkside 😂 In fairness to you this car is more difficult to drive than the W12. The extremely cold tyres at the start make things that much harder. Be good to see you in a few races in the future if you feel brave enough again.
The F1 games are full of people spinning the cars in MP in the early stages of the game, just need to learn where you can hit the pedal harder and where you have to ease it on, then find the limits before wheelspin or snaps occur. Great race Dave
Your transparency and honesty is honestly what keeps me coming back!
You don’t edit out all of your track mistakes and show the human side of driving, motivates me as a beginner!
Regarding the tires going away in 8 laps, it makes sense since they are softs, and you had a few moments that were not very kind to them, with spins and lock ups. And since we don't see temperatures in the overlay, they might have overcooked a few times.
Take this analysis with a grain of salt though, from the point of view that I'm a huge F1 nerd so I'm comparing to real F1, but I haven't raced with the iRacing version of the car.
you can switch the steering wheel screen to "warmup" page and there will be live core temperatures and surface temperatures and surface temps are going to 200C really quick as soon as you do any mistake
The W13 in iracing is way harder to drive than the w12 from the last sason. Tyre temps make a massive difference, you start off with 70c tyres and not 90c so warm up is important. Its going to be really interesting seeing how everyone gets on during the first season in iracing.
You need to upshift faster brother! You don't really want to be feathering the throttle either on the F1 cars, off the gas fully, downshift to where you need to be, steady for the corner then full throttle on the exit once you feel your rear gripping up, losing a lot of time on that, I think its cause of your experience with other classes where it is actually very useful to do so.
Get some practise in mate, open wheel racing is awesome!
Lol the cars ahead seem to move so unnaturally like its Mario kart
I don't know why iRacing seems so highly rated. The physics seem unrealistic. Extremely expensive, too.
I got into sim racing because i realised it was the nearest thing i would ever get to driving an F1 car. I was so excited when i fired up F1 2015 at Monaco (my then dream car/track combo) for the first time. What a shit show that turned out to be and still is to this day. It left me with sim PTSD. With experience I've ventured back to open wheelers and formula cars with AC but it definately needed much more sim skill than i had back then. I did stick with the F1 series but it has been a battle of attrition.
those fast downforce cars highlights the laughable physics in iRacing xD just look at it
Dave I'm sorry but I'm going to have to unsubscribe from this channel I thought you were a good driver lol 😂😂😂😂
Oh no, I'm bad. I've been bluffing all this time 😂
Nicely done, Dave! The loss of grip may have been heat related after your spin. Once you cook these tyres they tend to stay that way, unfortunately. Even if the temps come back down the grip doesn't necessarily return. Great job overall, though. Nothing wrong with a top 5 finish.
You wouldnt expect to be able to drive a f1 in real life without some serious training and skill so its probably fitting that its a nightmare to drive in sim land
"Is he on a gamepad?"
The ultimate sim racing insult
F1 cars were back in the day, Senna..... This is just NFS, little games for little boys like Hamilton and verstapen. :))
I know it's a sim so all about physics etc but my god this game looks terrible....don't get me started on the sound 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
They are great cars to hotlap, and if I had a league with a grid full of experienced, respectful drivers, it might be fun to race them. However, when you factor in netcode, connection lag, fast closing speeds, and drivers who don't respect those things, then the racing becomes a shit show. You did quite well though! I'm sticking to F4 and F3, myself.
I much prefer the Williams F1 car for hotlapping...these hybrids just run out of juice so quickly or in management mode it becomes pretty boring quickly. The laptimes are too reliant on whatever the hybrid system is set to. I really wish iracing put the Williams in with the W13 races...
@@550LMS That's a good point. Same for the LMP1's and the new BMW hypercar. Although, the active reset feature should come in handy.
I must say, I quite enjoyed this! 😊
You sicko 😂
Hi Dave, great to see you have a punt in this car but I promise you it isn’t always a spin fest lottery. Once the regulars start to get to grips this series will be fierce and precise up front with few errors. If you persisted you’d be one of the quick guys as well. Like any car it takes commitment to get used to the high-power open wheelers. The W12 was a bit too easy but the W13 is a lot less forgiving.
They should have made this free if you got the one last year. They killed that car and the other open wheeler they put out last year. That's $22 for cars that were obsolete in months.
iRacing is about money. It's not even that great as a sim.
I wonder if he ever used his DRS, the beeper kept going off to enable 🤣
Probably not 🤣
The W13 is a blast to drive and I think without a doubt the closest you can get to a real F1 car in terms of realism. It's also one of the most difficult cars i've ever driven, i just do hot laps and ai races with it 😂
I don't like driving modern f1 cars in sim because they're too cumbersome through low speed, and because they removed tc after the v10 era you have to just sit there and wait to get fully on power, it just feels terrible, the f2004 in AC is much nicer to drive imo
This was so entertaining 😄. You already always so composed in your races so there's a little sadistic enjoyment here
Lol. Please continue with F1 😂
Yeah this car demands skills
Somehow this is looking more like a video game.
No matter how bad youre doing, as long as others are doing worse, its all good! 😂
"I just watch it and get excited for the pitstops" Best F1 summary ever!
Its good iRacing has F1 cars but I will stick to F4 and F3 formula series, I'm not good enough to stay with the front pack so I just get board lapping by myself then usually just spin out because I have the attention span of a squirrel.
F1 sucks in pretty much all sims. It's just not very good for wheel to wheel racing.
Fake F1 can be fun though, when the cars just look like F1 cars, but the handling doesn't match them in the slightest.
Kind of annoys me how you need to buy it again if you have the W12, but I guess I do understand, it just sucks cause I spent money on the W12, only now just got class A, and now there’s a new F1 car I need to buy :(
Hey Dave, have you ever published a video that shows your iRacing video production process?
For example, are you recording in real time using OBS, or are you using OBS to record the replay? Or is there a way to export the replay to a .MP4 file?
I find in iRacing with open wheel cars between 6 to 10 laps in you will start to feel the car getting more slippy and understeer, I found with iRacing more downforce = faster tyre fade off
Chin up Dave, Max Verstappen started these at 17 so you have at least 5 years catching up to do :p
Thank fuck, Dave and I have the same issues with high powered openwheelers. I'm not that bad after all.
Why are the bloody tyres shiny? That F1 fresh tyre shine lasts about 5 seconds irl.
first beep is that you are within one second of the car ahead in the DRS detection zone the second is in the activation zone.
Oh dave, the more you know about F1 the better it is :D You get DRS from the detection point, so if you're under 1second behind there, then overtake before the DRS zone, you still get the DRS :)
“I’ve made my earbuds pop out there, cause I smiled too much”- accurate representation of trying the F1 car
Around and around we go, can't drive those cars either.💀🎅👍
Knowing where iRacing code came from, I'm unimpressed. I had this quality of graphics on the Amiga. Yes...that is where the iRacing code started, and it doesn't look to have changed much, regardless of what they claim.
Do you play iracing? Because the graphics are the least of the concerns, they're good enough. The physics are the number 1 priority then tracks and cars. Graphics don't make or break a game
Dave would you say open wheelers lower popularity in sims(dont count F1 game as sim) is due to the difficulty of the cars?
First video I’ve seen of yours ever. Enjoyed it, great race, great banter. Good stuff. I am now subscribed.
Thank you 😁
I've always been crap in an F1 car. I'm probably faster in a 2CV.
More F1 and more LMPs. Let's drive manly cars!!! LOL
Dave, you had DRS for ages…..lol
the late shifting hurts
Everything hurts 😂
Loved the video Dave!!! Amazing skills in a car that you're not used to drive!
Cheers!
I swear I had to keep checking the time becuase the video felt like it was sped up lmao
Don't know other people, but I'd love to see more of this.
I cant be the only person who thinks these cars move in a very cartoonish way
My only problem with watching these races that makes it not really interesting is once the down force comes on strong you just keep it floored and who cares because it sticks. You're railing half the course in 7th gear with the gas at 100% and it's just not interesting. Driving them can definitely be more fun, to me that effect of just holding the pedal down is still there, but when you've been driving GT3/GTE cars or whatever else, the speed with an F1 can be fun to mess with for an hour. But for watching it's just not as interesting, there isn't a lot of pedal control outside of slow corners, you aren't managing crazy braking and throttle at the same time or getting loose on the S corners while hitting the brakes slowing down on each one, etc.
I'm not saying just stick with GT3, but "slower" cars are just more interesting to watch in my opinion. Maybe it's just Silverstone and I'm talking a bunch of crap, who knows.
I think the same. I think the overall skill level at F1 is not as great as with other classes. They're fast, yes, but harder to drive?
High rev sounds at top gear is disappointing no pulsing, just one boring droan
I’m not a fan of formula cars either Dave. You can’t really feel the limit like other classes. GT cars you can really dance around on the limit.
Good video bud 👍
Lmao. What a stupid car. Dave makes me laugh.
The racing almost seems speed up, its so fast.
lmao 3:40 made me jump too 🤣 maybe i should try the w13...
Am I watching iRacing or Forza? 🙃😉
There it is,,, you said it,,, my thoughts exactly ,,, just,,, PLEASED TO FINISH 🤪
hope you enjoyed expo too , saw you had a quick exchange with GM
Respect to Merc for actually releasing a sim version of this cursed car! I imagine the W12 is easy mode compared to driving this thing.
The tires are exaggerated how cold they are at start IMO
Tension was your enemy here David, not the car, set up, or anything else mate.
Relax! Enjoy, learn... Progress!
Fare play Dave and stick at F1 brother, you might surpass yourself. 👍❤🏁
To much power? Never, only to much boot 😛
Good to know that i drive like "perfection" too. 😜
I know you've most probably had this question many times but do you have a link to you PC spec Dave? I'm building a new PC purely for sim racing next year.
Look mom im on RUclips! lol
gg Dave we were in one heck of a split thats for sure, glad to share the track with you 😊
Try the L79, much more fun! ☺
but you didn't have to hide great either, with the performance. With a little practice you'll quickly get the hang of it. Yes, they are hard to drive, I always have the problem that when I drive out of the box, I stand in the opposite direction to the direction of travel^^.
How's the aero wash in these cars?
I thought you done well considering you don’t race F1 cars. Around silverstone I think you should of gone with the medium’s, It’s brutal on tyres.
Definitely would like to see more of these f1 vids. Seeing you progress with the F1 cars would be a good series 👍🏻
Threshold braking is harder imo
yeah i did a reace with it a little earlier. i lost about 1 second and got a slowdown penalty for 1.8 seconds so effectively lost 2.8 seconds which is just wierd. F1 dont work in iRacing for the fact that track limits are not correct
This car is way harder to drive than last year's car IMO. But that might actually be in line with what the IRL drivers have said about this year's formula. The single biggest issue with F1 cars within iRacing is netcode. So yeah, that guy might not have been as erratic as he seemed.
If spinning makes you part of the cool kid group, hell I'm the king. Lmao,
Those cars are hell to drive. Your right.
I love how P5 in a new car that's likely not configured well yet on the wheel with a few spins and slow-downs is considered a "don't subscribe to me" while I'm happy to get a p10 in mazda cup
I bet you were missing the Rf2 tire temp hud there. I've just got my first iRacing D license in the formula Vees, and I've been wondering how I'm going to watch tire temps when I get to the more powerful stuff. I know there is a digital temp blackbox page, but not at the same time as the relative. Is there a third party hud for graphic tire temp?
IMO, normal human beings don’t have the reaction time necessary to facilitate good racing at these speeds. That’s why I don’t bother.
Second clutch good sir ;-)
I love seeing this! You looked great until the little spin, you can come back to F1 whenever you want buddy. I do like F1/Formula better on other games than iRacing though.
11:47 Dave looks at us like we're the problem and or its our fault and he's not angry.....just disappointed Ha!
Well tbh there's no shame on what happened there Dave.. u went there with no proper trainning with a Car that is regarded as one of the most dificult Cars on iracing. The ammount of Precision needed is enormous. But nevertheless you nailed it (despite some penalties along the way). Nice racing mate.
I like to drive the F1 cars but I don't like to race the F1 cars. They're just too fast for any good side-by-side racing.
dave, you kept playing with fire coming out of those slow speed corners in 3rd going full throtle with the wheel turned X-D! lol
Is that GSI FPEv2?
Is great to see the former British Prime Minister drive around Silverstone!
Tips for donuts do them using brake as well. It's easy on any car like this.
What a car! Nice video. But I wonder what is this telemetry app you are using?
It looks so erratic and unrealistic. Is it really that bad in the most realistic sim?
Most expensive sim, sure! I wonder if people are blinded by "I paid a lot of money so it must be the best", instead of being objective and saying it's massively over-priced and over-hyped.
F1 sifts run about 8-10 good laps max in real life, of course your softs went off
I don't race F1. I'd rather not set myself up for disappointment.
Needs alot of practice and knowing when to use the throttle etc. but I am so confident for this upcoming season after just driving this around Fuji this whole week 13.
The throttle management is really interesting and fun for me in these cars.
Gonna give it a proper try.
I'm Super Cool!
I dunno Dave, this was quite enjoyable to watch!! Might be fun to see you do a couple more f1 races!
Also, probably someone already said this, but when you hear those beeps, the first one means you will have drs on the next straight. And the second is when you can activate it.
I think you would do good if you spent some time with it but for me i just cant be bothered to learn about the battery, diff settings etc etc etc ( if you can adjust those in the game )
that car is pain in the ass Dave. it drives well until it snaps. low speed corners are nightmare 🙃👊
Painful to see
OG iRacing G
Next F1 video a full lenth Grand Prix ?
"It's not even funny" I disagree Dave 😃 Nice video!