Which ATEM Mini should YOU buy?
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- I get this question a lot, so I figured I'd make a video about it! Which ATEM Mini is right for you? Each one has its particular advantages depending on how you'll be using it!
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This is really the only time in my life, that I did not mind watching an advertisement video :) I have learned so much from you Aaron. Thank you for all your great videos. I want to mention one mayor minor indirectly caused by the mini pro. The fact that this is a great "live" machine makes more people doing live broadcasts. And live broadcasts are great for the maker but totally miss the whole reason that I, and many others, watch RUclips instead of regular TV. Recorded and edited videos are much more to the point while live broadcasts are so so long. I have to admit your live broadcasts are often having enough info and speed but even then I leave before the end knowing I will miss some important information. :) I use my Atem mini pro for live broadcast of funerals but mainly to be able to "live-edit" recordings of events to save me huge amounts of editing time afterwards. This means I can offer my recordings for less money and with that creating a larger potential in the budget-market I am in.
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Best review on the Atems that I have seen...
I hope, bmd will release an atem mini 4k with dual type c for recording and webcam stream. 😍
So true! Each one is such a great value for what they do but I agree the ISO is just amazing. I would have bought a second one already if I wasn’t scared a new one like the one on your wish list comes out soon after😂
Excellent review! I’m considering an ATEM Mini and these details on the differences were priceless in helping me decide which to get if I should decide to go for it. So helpful-thank you!
Great video. Time to buy the Pro
I've been considering getting an ATEM Mini not the ISO but either the Pro or original. Appreciate this breakdown of the differences. Will definitely help me decide which model to get. Thanks
Great video. Thank you. I was talking to my brother, who’s a broadcast engineer, about the product line sometime ago, and he said “I guess the pro is an ATEM mini inside another ATEM mini”. Made me laugh, but he’s probably right.
Stupendous job my friend thank you very much definitely helps me out a ton by having this video available!
The one thing I didn't hear you make a comment on, but is a really big deal, is the auto-scaling for the HDMI inputs. That is a feature still not available on some of the very expensive BMD switchers.
Yeah that's a great feature! I forgot to mention it in the summary, but that feature exists on all three models and I was more focusing on the differences between the three in this video.
Happy New Year Aaron. Great content as usual. This makes me feel better about my decision to go with the original Atem Mini. :-)
Thank you for the information. God bless you.
Thank you Aaron and Happy New Year.
Thanks Aaron. This is the information I've been needing!
Great explanation! Thanks Aaron!
The question is: shall we wait until the next Atem mini comes out or buy the pro ISO now? 😀
That's an excellent question too! Tho at this point there's no indication there even will be another ATEM mini! Who knows!
Get a real (not mini) atem. I got the constellation
Hi again. You really know this ATEM business and I'm new to live streaming devices. From what I can tell from videos etc, there is no easy way to use an ATEM mini or mini pro to do a smooth live stream to say RUclips of a live Zoom call with good sound and all participants. I see solutions with services who re-stream, and there's a way another ATEM expert uses the Extreme to do it, or with virtual audio cables (which I don't want to screw with my windows sound) some do it straight out of OBS with virtual cameras etc. The two questions I have are related. 1) Is there a simple way to do it that works well with the mini? 2) Why can't one just grab the signal coming out of the laptop HDMI that goes to a monitor per se, and feed that into an ATEM mini as one of the HDMI sources, a source that contains the Zoom call, and then stream from the mini pro for example using that HDMI signal and anything else that one wants to provide through the mini?
Would that work? I have so much audio hardware and stuff, and now I have a use case to do some streaming of Zoom calls and I don't want to just start buying ATEM devices before I know I can do it. Thanks very much!! Sorry for the long message..
You're on the right track, you can definitely connect an HDMI cable from your computer to the ATEM Mini and your computer will see it as a monitor, so you'll probably want to mirror your displays for that. You'll have a bit of a challenge with audio though since you'll need to send the audio from zoom to both the HDMI out, but you'll need a separate audio input to zoom otherwise you'll have bad feedback. There's also the problem that just streaming the zoom screen doesn't look super great to an external audience later, which is why you often see people publish zoom events from the zoom recording itself instead of this way. If you want to get into some more advanced stuff check out ZoomISO, it has some really powerful features but might take a bit to learn.
@@aaronpk you're a good dude. Your videos are second to none, and you get back to a guy struggling to understand how to make this work without services etc. Thanks again!!!!
@@aaronpk So it can't be done with just hardware like buying one of the Extreme ATEM boxes, or using 2 computers, to get around the audio issues? Again, to present a nice live stream of a Zoom call with high quality camera video etc? I started to read about the Zoom ISO but I'm not sure how deep I want to dig to make this happen. Maybe another video conferencing platform is easier to take into a box like an ATEM and produce high quality output for streaming with good sound, bells and whistles that ATEM provides etc. I'm a stinker, because I tend to see a technology that's sort of new and often have a use case that's not easily ironed out. I was casting my phone to TV 20 years ago using crazy dongles made in China that had too little resources to work well, but I wanted that technology years before Google or Amazon came around with it.
Got the Pro ISO plus streaming bridge to record all trucks plus getting an external clean signal via HDMI (plus preview). Great explanation!
Great video sir!, you helped greatly to understand their differences and make a purchase decision. Cheers!
A very useful summary indeed. Very frustrating that on the Pro and ISO there is no separate clean programme out over HDMI for high quality master recording as the streamed copy will have to be low quality if the upstream bandwidth is poor. I realise on the ISO you can re-render a proper master from the ISO files but a slight nuisance to have to.
Happy New Year, and thank you for this video.
Despite the wonderfull features of the Atem Mini line, I'm also considering the Roland V-01HD+ (the successor of Rolands V-01HD) Amazon is selling this at arround €1000,-.
Price wise close to the Atem Pro Iso.
It doesn't have the option to livestream directly, nor does it have the option to record 5 tracks. Though I have the impression Roland implemented some of your wishes you like to be added to a next Atem Mini: XLR inputs &
2nd HDMI output.
Therefore looking forward to your comment or more preferrable a comparison video.
Especially as I get confused regarding the signifcance regarding 8-bit vs. 10-bit video processing. Maybe less important for livestreaming, but for recording perhaps more significant.
Stay with bmd, get some bmd cams
And the one limitation that you didn't point out is that all three of these devices have only a single upstream key generator, so you can have PIP or green screen, but not both at the same time. I wound up overcoming this issue by cascading a base ATEM Mini into a second ATEM Mini (Pro), using the first as a camera feed (with a green screen feature for that feed) to the second. Then the second ATEM Mini provided the needed PIP function.
Yep! That's a great solution too. Again, I was focusing on the differences between the three models in this video, not a general overview of the ATEM mini line.
Great video...I sold mine pro and grabbed a Yololiv. Its fantastic. only thing is two wireless video signals like Hollywood 300 and 400 wont work together! Hope you make another video on this one...
Happy New Year Aaron. So I don't know about your New Year's Resolution, but mine was to (finally) start setting up all the equipment I've been slowly purchasing over the course of 2020.
So to that end I unboxed the ATEM Mini (I have both the Mini and Pro) and tried to set it up with my PC. (I finally figured out that I need to plug it in via USB to change the network settings - as the device was initially set-up on a different IP range.)
My question is this: I remember you talking about a new software prototype that allows you to create a layout diagram of your workflow. I couldn't for the life of me remember what it was called, or which live stream you mentioned it in?!
Yeah! That's h2rgear from John Barker, it's still in beta so subscribe to his channel to watch for the release! @Here to Record
Thank you for this review. Clear message, very helpful.
Thank You Sir! Real Quickly, "Can I connect an ATEM MINI PRO with a RODE PROCASTER 2 and STREAM through STREAM YARD?
Hey Aaron. What is the difference in using the Video Assist and either Blackmagic switcher as a web cam?
Bmd switcher have no usb webcam out, exept the mini. The best solution is a declink card or ultrastudio
Happy New Year Aaron. I wish I'd got the ISO but the extra cost seemed a bit much for features that didn't match what I expected to be doing. However, as I've got used to what the PRO can do I've increasingly wanted to have multiple recordings.
But I'm reluctant to buy an ISO now just in case BlackMagic suddenly release an enhanced "ATEM Mini Pro ISO Parecki" model matching the specifications you gave them.
if your cameras are blackmagic pocket cinema cameras then you can set macros in the controlsoftware that starts recording on the cameras internal storage when you activate the macro. if you don't have those cameras and don't plan on getting them you could just flip the pro on ebay and use the money to by the iso. or if you keep it you can go from the video out into the iso to get more video inputs
@Aaron. Are you reading from a script in this video? If so, are you using a teleprompter? It looks *so* smooth. Clue me into the tech you're using for the teleprompter.
Yeah! I've been doing all my recent edited videos with a script and a teleprompter, it makes recording and editing SO much faster! It takes practice to make it sound natural, and the other trick is to not scan your eyes back and forth across the line but keeping your eyes right in the middle, kind of like speedreading technique.
@@aaronpk well, it looks great. What are you using for the teleprompter setup?
@@RapPayne thanks! It's the Padcaster Parrot geni.us/hhac8 and an iPod touch. The app is called just Teleprompter, and you can use another iOS device as a remote control for it!
Great video, very informative. I’ll be using it for video podcast, 3 camera setup with 4 mics connected to ride caster pro. Atem mini will be used to reduce the time editing, so which one is the best option?
Excellent job in all regards. Very much what I needed. Did you say that with the Mini pro that I can't record while streaming using OBS?
The problem is there's only one USB port, so you can either connect it to your computer or connect a hard drive, but not both. so if you want to record to a drive, then you'd have to bring the video into your computer from the HDMI port with another capture card instead.
@@aaronpk You did an exceptional job on the video, and I'm a techy guy who looks at many videos. Fantastic!! And thanks for the quick reply.. big fan..
So for podcasting. On the Atem Mini , Would I have to record on the cameras separately ? And then sync audio later ?
Easy answer: Always the latest!
Aaron, How can i turn my usb type c port on atem mini pro in an hdmi out video feed.
Can you use the USB-C port on the ATEM mini pro as a webcam though it's not labelled as a webcam?
Yes, all the ATEM Mini models will appear to the computer as a webcam when plugged in via USB
@@aaronpk does it transmit audio too when connected via USB
one slight minor detail you failed to mention ( the reason I purchased the ISO and didnt find out till later) is that the recording of 4 cameras have to be BMPCC... sucks.. most youtube videos didn't specify that...
Not quite! The ISO records itself whatever is connected to the HDMI inputs, whether that's a Blackmagic camera or another brand or even a computer screen. The feature specific to the Blackmagic camera is the ATEM can tell the Blackmagic camera to record internally to the camera as well. But the ISO is totally capable on its own anyway!
@@aaronpk ya, dont get me wrong, I still love this thing, but I thought based on some youtube tutorials and reviews, that it would record any HDMI input for the pro..@ 18:16 in this video review ruclips.net/video/xecUpJ3u3Y4/видео.html ...thanx.
Non mini. I am waiting for the atem constellation to arrive. The mini (without a pgm & multiview) is just not usable for a lot of stuff. The atem hd is the much better deal and even has sdi in.
This is what I really want: ruclips.net/video/lRdw2uHyB1A/видео.html
@@aaronpk in an professional environment you always have different devices for different task, never a all in one. Have a look at phones, and Laptops vs a Datacenter. a Laptop does all things: Backup power, Storage CPU & GPU, ... in a Datacenter you often have Power Management, Storage and Processing separated. Its the same with video mixers. atem mini are ok for hobbyists, not for professional use.
@@aaronpk the one thing i realy miss from bmd is an hardware encoder, like an hyperdeck, just with the function to upload an rtmp(s) stream. i would like to control the encoder with the atem control panel, just like a hyperdeck.
Hey Aaron I have a pro & ISO that im super happy with : ) The only downside is when Im streaming on Twitch I haven't been able to workout how to have notifications and other types of interaction appear on my stream. Seems to be a layering/OBS feature. I have purchased a stream deck to trigger some of my macros, is it possible to have the loop function built into a macro? I can trigger the macro but I have to use the ATEM software to make it loop : /
Hey bud thank you sooooo much for making this video,
Q, I’m a amateur RUclipsr, I do art tutorials & just painting for fun & I film & post what I paint, but I’m wanting to set up 2 more cameras & I will maybe once in a blue moon do a live stream, I’ll pretty much be using this so I can record multiple cameras at once & then edit it before uploading to RUclips. I’m thinking the “PRO” is all I need do you think I’m on the right path, again all I’m want to do if record with 3 cameras at the same time, so I can edit after I film before uploading to RUclips & maybe once in a blue moon I’ll go live.
Thank you in advance, I hope you can point me in the right direction 🙏
Blackmagic officially dropped the lowest model recently, and dropped the price on the other two. So the only difference now between the ATEM Mini Pro and ISO is whether you want to record all the cameras at once to be able to edit later, or just have the one file at the end.
@@aaronpk thanks so much for replying 😃 ohhhh wow, hopefully that’s a worldwide price drop, I’m in AUS 🇦🇺 yeah I’m wanting to be able to record all at once to be able to edit later, but still be able to have on hand if I want to go live, from time to time
Definitely go with the ISO then! Even tho it's more expensive, it's still the cheapest way to get a 4-channel recorder! The price dropped from $900 to $600 USD and it should be a worldwide price drop!
@@aaronpk thank you soooooo much, I truly appreciate your advice, you ROCK 😃
@@aaronpk hey bro great news, I just ordered the ISO for $750 AUD, the store where I was going to buy it from still has it listed for $1199 & they’re RRP $1399 they haven’t dropped their price yet to comply with the worldwide price drop. Yeah I just done a Google search for Blackmagic ATEM PRO ISO AUS price drop & a couple of stores popped up showing the new price drop price YIIEEEEEEEW 🥳
So bro thank you soooooo much for letting me know about the price drop cause I pretty much got the ISO for what I would of normally got the PRO for.
You sir are a bloody legend 🙏😃🙏😃🙏
For Atem Mini Pro - Can we connect it to the computer for Zoom, and at the same time use it to send to RUclips and Facebook?
Yes! You can use the USB connection for Zoom, and it can stream via RTMP at the same time. (Of course it's still limited to streaming to one RTMP endpoint at a time, so if you wanted to stream to both youtube and facebook you'd need to use a restream service)
With the Blackmagic ISO can I use cameras other than the Blackmagic cameras? e.g Can I use my Nikon Z6ii or the Lumix G7?
I now have the answer. No! Thanks to Blackmagic. So I'll be investing in a Blackmagic camera or two. No worries about color matching.
Help a beginner on ATEM! I connected canon 70D and canon R to the ATEM but video shows with black bars on the side. how can i make these black bars go away ?
I don't have any Canon cameras but what I've seen on other cameras is my guess is that the camera is set to still picture mode. Set it to video mode and it will probably fix it. If that doesn't work, check the menus for an aspect ratio setting.
@@aaronpk Your advise was very helpful, gracias. I follow your videos, I live in Panama (the country). We are new in the streaming world. Hopefully I can keep learning from you and soon buy your stand for the ATEM.
thx, great video as always. Please I have a question, I use ProPresenter 7 to send lower thirds (upstream key (chroma)) and logos (downstream key) to my ATEM MINI PRO ISO ( at my church). But, these no not appear in my recording on the ATEM MINI PRO ISO. Is there a way to make these appear in the SSD recording on my ATEM MINI PRO ISO? Is there a setting I need to change to capture these?
I do not know the answer to your question, but an alternative solution could be to record your output within ProPresenter 7. I usually record the output then overlay that on the video timeline when editing.
Can we use the atem output for preview in one screen and program in other screen?
There’s only one HDMI output, but you can choose whether that output shows you the program or preview (or multiview with the Pro and ISO)
Hi Aaron what is the smallest laptop computer to buy for running the software control panel I'm looking to upgrade to the ISO model so I can run & record 3 to 4 cameras in my boat at once any tips.Happy New Year Mate CHEERS.
The Software Control app doesn't require much CPU or RAM at all, pretty much any windows or Mac laptop should be able to run it. You should be able to get a cheap windows laptop or a used laptop and it'll work fine.
@@aaronpk Thank mate love your channel CHEERS