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  • @rathernotdisclose8064
    @rathernotdisclose8064 6 лет назад +193

    "Don’t Learn Code. You’re Too Late."
    .... "Become a developer in 6 months here:"
    lmao

  • @goodgood9955
    @goodgood9955 6 лет назад +139

    Im 48. I THINK THIS IS MY CALLING. IM GOING TO TRY IT! I moded a game and spent 6 weeks 24/7 trying to solve problems and I LOVED IT!

    • @THEARPE07
      @THEARPE07 5 лет назад +1

      how did it go ? are you programming ?

    • @theboringprogrammer4444
      @theboringprogrammer4444 4 года назад

      gg

    • @youngninjamelo6039
      @youngninjamelo6039 4 года назад +2

      @Good Good bro it’s been two years and I just wanna know how are you doing on your journey?

    • @goodgood9955
      @goodgood9955 4 года назад +3

      @@youngninjamelo6039 havent done a thing bro. Sorry. I feel ashamed actually.

    • @Milo1267
      @Milo1267 4 года назад +4

      @@goodgood9955 rip that was anticlimactic

  • @timduncan2847
    @timduncan2847 4 года назад +14

    Learnt javascript 3 years ago aged 30. Now a senior dev. Best life decision I made.

    • @xdeep613
      @xdeep613 2 года назад +1

      I am 29 and started learning JavaScript and also doing clg degree ..hope after 3 years i will be somewhere good

    • @lobo-92
      @lobo-92 2 года назад

      Awesome.! Cheers to you mate.
      Even I'm in the same path. I'm 30 yrs old and transitioning to software development.
      Time to grind and see what i can make out of it.

  • @toddboothbee1361
    @toddboothbee1361 6 лет назад +767

    I'm 51. I can do 22 pull ups, etc...I'm fit, though I don't workout more than twice a week...and I'm learning to code. My working memory is fully functioning, my fluid intelligence is active and effective. I've never been more creative than I am now. 51 is not old. Puzzle solving isn't onerous for me. If you're unhealthy at 30, then 30 is old. If you're tired at 20, then you're old. My cousin is 72 and is a software engineer in Raleigh. He runs marathons, and he looks like he's forty or forty-five. Yet, unless businesses are desperate, they probably won't hire someone may age as a code jockey. That's their problem, their nervous bigotry, or perhaps it's a matter of insurance, or it's because being over 50 isn't a "cultural fit". With skills intact, I'll make my own business, as I've done before. (Many small businesses need web apps.) You can't wait for someone else's permission to do what you want. Whether or not you are someone else's cultural fit, you must stay physically fit to have the energy and wellbeing to do what you want, no matter your age. Even this is no law, though.

    • @bitcointroy2499
      @bitcointroy2499 6 лет назад +5

      Great strategy and attitude, Todd! Quick question: Is your cousin a freelancer, or is he salaried?

    • @CG-ck7rc
      @CG-ck7rc 6 лет назад +2

      It’s probably because they want employees with more longevity and long time loyalty. No offense but the older you are the sinner you’ll die

    • @toddboothbee1361
      @toddboothbee1361 6 лет назад +13

      Long time loyalty is from a bygone era, I thought. How long do most coders and programmers stay with a company? I always hear about moving on inside three years to better prospects. The older worker may be inclined to stay longer than younger workers. (Maybe it's this that the businesses fear?)

    • @toddboothbee1361
      @toddboothbee1361 6 лет назад +7

      Dear Do Jin Park
      "Guess anyone is too young to say they're too late" sounds like a truism, almost has the ring of truth to it. Sadly, it isn't true. Instead, many of us begin to feel too late after high school in a perverse act of faith that eighteen years was our prime. I too doubt the bs feel good TED-talk pep talks that all things are possible to all of us at all times. But why not test either belief and do what you can? See if you are too late, and be afraid but also brave, brave to find that, just maybe, your brain has rotted after all. But it may not have, and that is painful because now suddenly, from now on, you are responsible for not screwing yourself.
      You may be young ( I don’t know, of course), but don’t believe all the romantic notions that the youth are naturally creative-their value often comes from them being in the target markets, targeted and profited by the “old”.

    • @jimihendrixx11
      @jimihendrixx11 6 лет назад +1

      Todd Boothbee Todd that's awesome! Thanks for sharing and inspiring me & others!

  • @JeanAlesiagain3
    @JeanAlesiagain3 6 лет назад +867

    I'm 35. I used to be an attorney, but became a software engineer 3 years ago. Javascript is super easy. It is solving the problems that is hard.
    When someone says he is too old to code, while still being in his 20's, then what am I?
    Let me tell you, I love to do it. It is so fun every day.

    • @Rossboe1
      @Rossboe1 6 лет назад +77

      Im 39 and just started leaning a month ago.

    • @jamiedavies4545
      @jamiedavies4545 6 лет назад +3

      Its Jamie Davies is a software engineer job very easy to do and will I be able to develop video games for my computer at home JeanAlesiagain3 mate?

    • @JeanAlesiagain3
      @JeanAlesiagain3 6 лет назад +8

      I was an attorney in a non common law country. To practice law in the US, I had to either go to school again or work as a paralegal for several years (depending on the state).
      When I came to the US, I decided to pursue a career that I love and therefore chose to become a software engineer.
      Money wise, being an attorney is probably more lucrative in most cases. But engineering can be very lucrative too.

    • @JeanAlesiagain3
      @JeanAlesiagain3 6 лет назад +15

      Yes. It's fairly easy. The difficult part is that most of your peers will not have very good social skills.

    • @d0m-overwatchcsgo96
      @d0m-overwatchcsgo96 6 лет назад

      TWS - Huey not true most of the time and being a programming is objectively more fulfilling

  • @000zeRoeXisTenZ000
    @000zeRoeXisTenZ000 5 лет назад +36

    Everytime you solve a harder problem, look back and salute to all the fallen learners who gave up at this problem.
    I'm learning programming for a few months right now and at some points I really felt the gigantic graveyrads around some topics and how much ppl just gave up at this particular point.
    just don't give up! everytime you stuck, you get a chance to earn extra EXP for your skills.
    Life is just a another game.. ;)
    PS: sry for my english

    • @russeldioneo5187
      @russeldioneo5187 3 года назад +1

      When you put it that way, that sounds really awesome

  • @calv.io.n8080
    @calv.io.n8080 4 года назад +37

    "Don't learn to code"
    - Man who didn't work construction

    • @LukeAvedon
      @LukeAvedon 4 года назад

      LOL!

    • @krwsfyme8459
      @krwsfyme8459 3 года назад +1

      The whole reason I’m here is because 10 years in construction and I’m getting paid like shit 😂😂 the summer is hot af now 😂😂😂

  • @jedgar6653
    @jedgar6653 6 лет назад +177

    I taught my dad (47) how to code a pretty complex iOS app in a week. He's taught himself how to make all of the harder queries for the APIs he's calling, dealing with MVC, and clean coding. Granted he is a Mec/Chem engineer, so problem-solving is part of his daily job, but learning swift/Xcode is a completely different thing. I'd definitly say no matter how old you are, it's never too late.

    • @gabbar51ngh
      @gabbar51ngh 6 лет назад +2

      J Edgar Well if he is from an engineering background it's probably easier

  • @virtualknight
    @virtualknight 6 лет назад +3

    fucking clickbait. I came here to be demotivated and reassure myself that I can not become a software developer but now I'm motivated and ambitious. thank you

  • @FindTheSeven
    @FindTheSeven 6 лет назад +230

    A person is only "too old" to learn how to write code or anything else for that matter, if they think they are.
    Likewise if they don't think they are, then they are not.
    Guys, believe in yourselves. Enough with self-doubt it's not a good look.
    Think about it. Does an employer want someone going in who doubts their own skills or their ability to learn?
    Forget the odds and statistics.

  • @pyroghost11
    @pyroghost11 6 лет назад +118

    I'm 31 and learning to code....

    • @badriance8407
      @badriance8407 6 лет назад +1

      pyroghost11 me too!

    • @tsohgallik
      @tsohgallik 6 лет назад +5

      Well... Pyroghost.. Its been 5 months... Hows it going? If he dont reply back he quit (:V)

    • @rayc3103
      @rayc3103 6 лет назад +19

      I started learning last year near my 31st birthday. As of today, I turned 32 and just got my first job in coding 3 months ago.

    • @AlDEN1999
      @AlDEN1999 6 лет назад +1

      Foken quitter

    • @ghost-4783
      @ghost-4783 6 лет назад

      Im 27, and just started, i did have experience when i was younger but not touched code for around 7 years.
      The issues is the time people can dedicate each day, if you are 30 in a full time job and you're to exausted every day to put in more then an hour it may be difficult.
      But if you can find the time for 2 - 4 hour a day you can do it at any age, the key iv noticed (like with anything) is time and repetition.

  • @toothstepper
    @toothstepper 6 лет назад +47

    SKIP to 5:04 That's where the inspiration starts...
    THANKS Chris :)

  • @raulgutierrez5862
    @raulgutierrez5862 6 лет назад +154

    Coding takes an incredible amount of patience. Never give up. If anything give up social media, video games and friends not willing to learn something new. Those things will definitely hold you back. Learning to code is insanely easier today than it was 20 years ago just based on the wealth of free information that's out there. I know I didn't have that back in the 90's when I first purchased a PC.

    • @brandonpejchl
      @brandonpejchl 6 лет назад +17

      I agree 100% minus the video games:(

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 6 лет назад +4

      There are MOOCs & online resources out there where you can learn coding for free or at a very low price. It's a great difference from the late 90s where we had to pay thousands to learn C or C++ at college. However, there's a lot of resources at the Beginner & Advanced level, and not much for those wanting to learn mid level difficulty stuff.
      Ironically, on RUclips you can spend an hour learning how to use AWS, learning about APIs, etc., or spend that same amount of time on another side of RUclips watching useless viral videos, pranks, fake 'social experiments', etc....

    • @1stfloorguy59
      @1stfloorguy59 6 лет назад +13

      one doesn't simply give up video games

    • @Radial9Gaming
      @Radial9Gaming 6 лет назад +10

      You can't give up on video games

    • @Paretozen
      @Paretozen 6 лет назад +4

      yes you can give up on video games when you have a deadline. but hey.. then you watch these kinda youtube videos. so guess it dont matter.

  • @TheEgg185
    @TheEgg185 6 лет назад +117

    I'm a 32 year old boy. I don't code and wouldn't be able to if I was 20. Why? Because I don't like it. I hate problem solving and would rather experience the freedom of driving a truck and enjoying nature. Age isn't why people can't do things; having no serious interest is.

    • @futurez12
      @futurez12 5 лет назад +4

      Maybe, but you also have to consider that not having the ability to do something that's out of your scope of understanding will also cause the lack of interest. Nobody is interested in something they find fiendishly difficult. It's a bit of a chicken and egg thing IMO. It's hard to say which comes first, or whether it's a combination of the two.

    • @silinusvers
      @silinusvers 5 лет назад +5

      I'm getting sick.of driving a truck

    • @frogstereighteeng5499
      @frogstereighteeng5499 4 года назад +2

      You're gonna have some fun when your job become entirely invalid, lol. AI driven cars are here, they're safer, and they are not leaving.

    • @AdoptedPoo
      @AdoptedPoo 4 года назад +2

      @@frogstereighteeng5499 In what 50 years, lmao we'll see about that.

    • @frogstereighteeng5499
      @frogstereighteeng5499 4 года назад +3

      @@AdoptedPoo No. Right fucking now. Are you blind, nub?

  • @0Apostata0
    @0Apostata0 6 лет назад +70

    I am 33 and started with Javascript and PHP recently... it took me about a month of reading and watching till it finally clicked in my head and I started to understand the structure and logic of programming, at this point it started to become lots of fun, because I could suddenly think of all these real functions and applications I could build....

    • @iseeflowers
      @iseeflowers 4 года назад +2

      Apostata what did you watch and read for it to click for you?

  • @anonymous-do5bs
    @anonymous-do5bs 6 лет назад +24

    But one thing to remember, don't learn because there is a potential to get rich. Learn because u want to.

  • @AliASHTV
    @AliASHTV 6 лет назад +371

    Only study coding if you really have fun with it, not for money.

    • @liizzset
      @liizzset 6 лет назад +11

      Ali ASH TV Unless you want it for an career though. But understand what you mean though. It is better if it is fun for you then it is worth it. And then you never realized that if you do it in a professional arena then it would be good. To you. The person.

    • @karrde666666
      @karrde666666 6 лет назад +8

      true for anything

    • @user-yk1cw8im4h
      @user-yk1cw8im4h 6 лет назад +80

      That's a very romantic way of thinking. However coding is still a tool, that can be used to make money.

    • @TheRealHumz
      @TheRealHumz 6 лет назад +1

      s d is money good in coding

    • @Shannxy
      @Shannxy 6 лет назад +2

      Agree, the reason I got into it was because I love problem solving. It's so rewarding when you sucessfully create epic algorithms to solve your problems

  • @harisy1916
    @harisy1916 6 лет назад +13

    Your title made me concerned and am soo glad it was the opposite message! Thank you for this positive inspiration

  • @ZachFootballTV
    @ZachFootballTV 6 лет назад +14

    Lmao Age is only an indicator but not a definitive entry or exit point. Someone can be 20 with the brain capacity of 74 year old

  • @CamXPetra
    @CamXPetra 2 года назад +3

    I've been struggling with the thoughtprocess of it being "too late" ever since i started teaching myself code last week. This helps so much, thank you

  • @eloiterman581
    @eloiterman581 6 лет назад +4

    I'm 48! I had an ART MAJOR at 18-23 tried going back to school -I did so-so Got my first gig -got laid off in 2001 and it was a bad time to be new and mediocre. At the time I gave up. Took a government job for 6 years -did that until I couldn't stand it anymore. In 2008 I went back to work in a Jr dev job -the recession hit -EVERYTHING SUCKED. I didn't give up! When I was 42 until today I started banging away at it -improving gradually and getting paid more each time -Contracts are a good way to get your skills up. There are ALWAYS things to hinder your career! Like sucking at code tests or white board tests -getting out of the jQuery comfort zone -(still doing that) and getting into frameworks -still a newb there -but TRY -exercising keeps you young -keeps that neuroplasticity working. People tell me I LOOK 35! Age is a number. Burnout happens but forgive yourself!

  • @capolot
    @capolot 6 лет назад +17

    Yo, this was really inspiring. It hit home for me because you’re only like 2 years older than I am. Yet, you made it work. Maybe I can too. I’m tired of living a life going nowhere.

  • @LSpiro
    @LSpiro 6 лет назад +34

    The clue is in what people say. “I’m 22, I am too old to learn this.” Because these age limits are human myth, not actually true according to nature, all of these negative attitudes come from nothing but a human’s incorrect preconceived notion on when old is too old.
    In reality, your brain continues developing just fine until 25, at which point it slows, but it is not a hard cliff. You can then continue learning new things well into your 30’s as your brain goes from an accelerated-by-youth pace to a normal pace, at which pace you are *still* able to learn just fine.
    If baseless wives’ tales wouldn’t be paraded as fact, significantly fewer people would have fallen into the trap of limiting themselves just because they have an erroneous belief that they can no longer learn or some variant of said belief.
    It’s really stupid, and these myths have had a *very* huge impact on human progress.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 6 лет назад +1

      Well, the problem is not inability to learn, the problem is that what you learn doesn't stick for long. So you have to take tons of notes to help you remember, and then you even forget which things you took notes about if you don't use that knowledge daily. Cruelly, what you learned in your youth seems to stick forever, but becomes outdated/useless fairly soon (at least when it comes to details).

    • @sidarjunful
      @sidarjunful 6 лет назад +2

      I am 31-32 and my brain works better than ever. I was a stupid teenager but now I am working efficiently than ever...

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 6 лет назад

      L. Spiro yea kinda like this.
      nowdays people are kinda stupid considering we got unlimited information and internet lol...
      i know one thing.
      That you do what matters to you lol it all works,but people are lazy. Saying that you cant worm at 30 or 40 you sound like the older generation saying i am 70 and cant work. But THEY ARE FUCKING 70 LOOL.. and you are 20-30-40 gg idiot. Health+brain thats what a man needs.

    • @curiousgeorge6921
      @curiousgeorge6921 6 лет назад

      You are putting age yourself ...30s 40s...bullshit there is no age to learning...of you understood basicl neurosscience u will know it

    • @MisterG420
      @MisterG420 5 лет назад

      I actually said this when I was around 22/23 years old. Worked in sales for a few years and hated it. Now I'm 30, I'm learning to code and I love it. In fact, I probably love it more now than I would have if I started when I was younger.

  • @midnightwatchman1
    @midnightwatchman1 6 лет назад +21

    I encourage everyone to learn to program generally you are you never too old to gain skills. interesting story the first guy who started to automate the bidding on eBay was over 50 years and retired he learned javascript by himself and solved a problem, he liked selling and buying antiques maybe most people are asking the wrong question. it maybe late to start a career but it is never too late find a purpose in life no matter what it is and programming just like everything else you have to like it and want to do it

  • @OskarP2601
    @OskarP2601 5 лет назад +19

    i'm turning 12 in a few months and i know CSS, HTML, JavaScript, Lua, Python, Little of C/ Programming, C# so im not late lmao

    • @nbaworld4426
      @nbaworld4426 4 года назад +1

      If you know any of those at an even decent level right now (honestly probably not) but if so you’ll be an absolute killer by the time you finish college. Most people who code don’t start until late high school or college.

  • @FS02012
    @FS02012 3 года назад +1

    3 years later about to lose my accounts payable job to a program! At 40 will have to learn coding. Since the 2 softwares will be communicating with eachother 3 departments will lose their jobs! 2021

  • @ZombieProdigyUS
    @ZombieProdigyUS 6 лет назад +7

    It's one of the most valuable skills in the world to employers...

  • @sudstahgaming
    @sudstahgaming 3 года назад +1

    I keep dabbling in whether or not to learn to code, but when it comes down to it, I don't have the motivation to code, I like using programs etc but I find it would be boring and tedious for me to make my own program, its just not for me, personally I think coding is for the more creative person.

  • @antondovbush8489
    @antondovbush8489 5 лет назад +6

    2.5K people think they're too old to learn code

  • @kevinpadilla95
    @kevinpadilla95 6 лет назад +4

    Dude, thanks so much for making this video. I honestly thought it was going to be a negative video about coding but it turned out to be the complete opposite. I was just about to give up on coding, its so damn hard! Now I'm pumped. Thank you.

  • @CookingwithNing
    @CookingwithNing 6 лет назад +8

    dude you live in orange county. lol

  • @supremetem5491
    @supremetem5491 6 лет назад +5

    Well i instantly disliked because the title will scare the general public trying to discover coding life, but your title doesn't match what you say at the end so i'll take the dislike back

  • @soccerball7828
    @soccerball7828 5 лет назад +4

    I'm 2019 and I still love coding 😏(I know earth is not 2019 years old)

  • @anya_pixie
    @anya_pixie 6 лет назад +4

    Thank you so much for this wonderful video and your words! I am 27 , I started learning code when I was 25, I somehow gave up thinking I cannot do it without IT degree ( because my major is Civil Engeneering) but I came back and started again, with more enthusiasm because I love coding so much! Your video helps me for motivation, thank you! :)

  • @clearmist7170
    @clearmist7170 6 лет назад +5

    As others have said. 22 is super young. There's plenty of time, trust me. You can be 30 or 40 and go to college. In fact, you probably will have to because the economy is constantly changing.
    In fact, the only reason why "coding" or programming is so popular now is because the whole app industry has created a new skill that is required and couldn't be outsourced and so had to be learned by people. It's great for the current economy and I see how there will continue to be demand for it. However, during the 1980's and 1990's people used to talk about how computer programming was gonna be this huge thing. Then, during the late 90's and 00's all the computer programming jobs were lost and outsourced to China and India where people could do the coding and programming for $3 a day or something and there were few computer programming jobs in America and the modern world. I suspect if the same will happen, once more people begin to learn programming for apps. The more people learn a skill, the less valuable it becomes. Then, the ones making money, will be the ones who learn the next new language which will be the virtual reality (VR) language or whatever other language.
    In other words, the learning doesn't stop. If you want to be in technology, you better love going to the books and studying, because every year and every new piece of technology is constantly reinventing the wheel and creating new programming languages. Meaning you're going to have to constantly learn. It's not like you just learn it once and you can just rely on that. The stuff you learn today about coding, will be irrelevant in 5 and especially in 10 years.

  • @alanleinweber5118
    @alanleinweber5118 6 лет назад +3

    Well, good video.
    I am 24, finishing my Accountancy degree yet learning python and c# to develop videogames, sometimes your initial career.
    So far I am enjoying it, but it is hard.

  • @JoeBlack-if3tz
    @JoeBlack-if3tz 6 лет назад +17

    I'm 22, and started teaching myself code a little over a month ago. I've got html and css down pretty well. I'm learning Javascript now, and I'm surprised how easy it is. It's just so logical, and it's definitely so much more fun that html and css. I'm gonna go to a boot camp in a couple of months. I hope I can ask myself how the hell did I get here in a couple of years as well.

    • @8DALE
      @8DALE 6 лет назад +1

      That's a common mistake among new programmers. You only realize you learn relatively nothing when you apply for jobs.

    • @JoeBlack-if3tz
      @JoeBlack-if3tz 6 лет назад

      The school I'm attending is non profit, so that makes me feel a little better. I do realize I could teach myself, but I have the funds to go to a boot camp. So why not speed up the process, and expand my network at the same time? After all, who you know plays a huge role in landing your first job.

    • @yoloswaggins1579
      @yoloswaggins1579 6 лет назад

      Joe Black Joe Black "a little over a month. I got html and css down pretty well. Learning javascript now."
      Riiiiggghhhhhht.

    • @JoeBlack-if3tz
      @JoeBlack-if3tz 6 лет назад +1

      Yolo Swaggins
      I really don't care if you don't believe me. I've been working my ass of through TreeHouse. I started the Javascript course last week, so I'm still pretty new to it. Anyone can learn what I've learned in a month. All it takes is hard work and dedication mate.

    • @yoloswaggins1579
      @yoloswaggins1579 6 лет назад +1

      Joe Black Yes. It actually takes more than a month of hard work and dedication to have 3 programming styles "down". So maybe that was a bit of a poor choice of words there on your part.

  • @iamcybi
    @iamcybi 5 лет назад +1

    I am 15 and I am learning html.

  • @Deuce7Off
    @Deuce7Off 6 лет назад +11

    For those who want the condensed version basically coding is the "Dark Souls" of life!

  • @wsupnet
    @wsupnet 6 лет назад +3

    "Getting stuck is part of the fun."

  • @rrmarlatt
    @rrmarlatt 6 лет назад +3

    I am glad I clicked on this. Good luck to you. I have worked in IT for over 8 years now. I am switching to web development and I have been at it for over 3 years. Frustrating at times. Keep pushing. Once I hit submit I will click subscribe good luck to you Chris Sean!

  • @klarkthefirst3813
    @klarkthefirst3813 4 года назад +2

    im 19 and i think im too old for this 😂 but im programming now about 3 months and now im learning how to make game in java and iwish i can finish my first game next week😂

  • @astrovicis
    @astrovicis 6 лет назад +3

    I had these same thoughts at 12. I nearly stopped learning to code because I thought I wasn’t smart enough. Then I read that impossible-to-understand actionscript tutorial again, the one about trigonometry and reactive particles, and lo and behold, I understood a few pieces of it: how cosine and sine of the difference between a particle’s position and the cursor allowed the particles to seem like they were avoiding the cursor. Then I read another and pieced together a tiny bit more, this time about changing variables over time. Looking back at that first one with the particles, it made so much more sense. Not perfect sense, but I got why they would slide around sometimes even when my cursor wasn’t moving. Then after a third, I started to have ideas about what I could make without looking anything up. I tried combining a few concepts I’d learned about in past tutorials I’d read. Control+enter: hm. Not quite what I expected. After playing around with it for about twenty minutes though, I started to see why it was behaving like that. Out of nowhere, code starts flying out of my fingers as I focus in on exactly what I want to happen. Control+enter: Yes...yes exactly. Hold on a second...what just happened? I just wrote an idea into existence. Real, experiencable existence. Like speaking a dream into reality. Over time, I built up a collection of maybe 100 Flash projects, a good number of them tutorials and a great deal more my own independent projects, each with their own technical and graphical significance. And the most beautiful thing about programming is that you can always go further. Sure at that point I could program, but I never would have imagined I’d be the chief architect at a virtual reality nanotech company developing a distributed research platform on the Ethereum blockchain. That would have absolutely blown my 12 year old mind! The longer you play the game though, the better you get, and the better you get, the more free you become to express your ideas in the most intricate and beautiful ways. You get to a point where you feel like you could literally build anything. It somehow continues to be among the most creatively and intellectually liberating feelings I have ever felt. It is so, inexplicably worth it. Please, to anyone who is struggling with programming right now, do not give up. Try looking at the concept in a different light. Maybe in a different tutorial :P You will get it, I promise. Give yourself time and your brain will start to let you see the constructs.
    You will not regret your decision. The whole world awaits you!!

  • @MelonPython
    @MelonPython 3 года назад +1

    You saying that, just kille so many peoples dream. Waow, I had better expectations from you.

    • @RealChrisSean
      @RealChrisSean  3 года назад

      Wtf? You obviously didn’t watch the video lmao.

    • @MelonPython
      @MelonPython 3 года назад +1

      @@RealChrisSean I watched it after I posted the comment, but the little itself is very miss leading and can de-motivate a lot of people. No bad feelings, the video was great, just my personal opinion.

  • @BonefxInaxclan123
    @BonefxInaxclan123 6 лет назад +3

    I am 13 and have been learning js since 11 I am not good but also I am not bad. And now I am learning python. Honestly you are a inspiring person. Thanks

    • @tsohgallik
      @tsohgallik 6 лет назад

      BrΩken Ed1†S
      Holy shit... You're the inspiring person now... 11 years old? Damn... By 15 you should be able to get a job somewhere.... Unless you're not training for certification??
      The guy inthe video looks like hes 36 So with you already doing something with JavaScript? Python too? Wow... For sure you can make it at a very early age if you stick with it...

  • @EldenSoulsVids
    @EldenSoulsVids 6 лет назад +1

    I really love music production but I cant make a living with that. Programming is fun but college sucked the fun out of it

  • @goldenbuddha3280
    @goldenbuddha3280 6 лет назад +3

    Damn😂...I really needed this ,I'm 32 and in 6 months I'll be 33. I'm about to start learning HTML and CSS, hopefully I will find a way to a better life even if it takes hours of hard work to get there.Thankyou for this video 😂.

    • @rayc3103
      @rayc3103 6 лет назад +1

      Eliseo Cruz Don't give up and work hard. I started last year and it was the best decision I've ever made. I just turned 32. Started my first programming job 3 months ago.

  • @ЗариповНасимчон
    @ЗариповНасимчон 6 лет назад +2

    Lots of people think that when you're 20 30 40 or something like that it's too late for you to start doing something that you're excited about. And they will regret about why they didn't started learning it when they were 15 16 17. But it's wrong. I know from my own experience. I finally became a programmer at the age of 30. Look guys it's never never late to start following your dreams . It doesn't matter what age are you in now even if you're 16 you can do. What does it requires sacrifices. I know it's hard. It's not easy but you're making sacrifices you're working a lot harder almost without a rest just because of having a rest in the future. Good luck to everyone who already started their journey through the things that they want. Just by dreaming you will never become someone. But by acting and hardworking and you will☺!

  • @improv2736
    @improv2736 6 лет назад +3

    I've been learning how to code for over a year, it was tough at first but now I've become obsessed with it. I love this!

  • @nmlife5536
    @nmlife5536 5 лет назад +2

    I’m 13, and I’m learning how to code on Roblox :D Anyone doing the same?

  • @JennaJams
    @JennaJams 6 лет назад +31

    I have “given” up a few times off and on but what’s important is to be persistent. Never give up for good. The end goal will be worth it. And happy birthday!

    • @PinkPoo
      @PinkPoo 6 лет назад

      Jenna_Creates same here, i never give up permanently, i just let my brain take a little rest

    • @louisphilippe1100
      @louisphilippe1100 6 лет назад

      If you want to work in the field of coding, go to a university. You will learn to code in the first like 3 months and then it's insane coding. Especially where i go, it's crazy.

  • @johnpenguin9188
    @johnpenguin9188 5 лет назад +2

    I learned at the age of 31, after giving up when I was 14, in college and again in my late 20s.
    I needed a mission and y’know RUclips tutorials helped out a bunch 😂

  • @shawhawthorne2895
    @shawhawthorne2895 6 лет назад +32

    22? I just turned 29 and I'm learning code. I'm doing this for my daughter and I enjoy it soo much. I love coding. I love creating. I love this whole thing. And yea javascript is kicking my ass I'm new to it.

    • @shawhawthorne2895
      @shawhawthorne2895 6 лет назад

      Chris Sean thanks!!

    • @Razorsedge123
      @Razorsedge123 6 лет назад

      Samuel Hawthorne. Bro how are you planning this code journey. I am an accountant, i am 30 and i just dont feel like working in the hamster wheel. Appreciate your advice. Keep it up. Peace

    • @shawhawthorne2895
      @shawhawthorne2895 6 лет назад

      Malik Haider well I started free at codeacademy.com and learned the basics man. Also RUclips is a major help with tutorials. I downloaded "sololearn" which is in the app store for free whether you have apple or android. And then I pay like 25. A month for team tree house lessons which are fantastic.

    • @Razorsedge123
      @Razorsedge123 6 лет назад

      Samuel Hawthorne. Thanks for your reply. Man thats a good start. Wish you all the best. How is the transition coming so far. What do think of dummies book?. Peace

    • @smartwater598
      @smartwater598 6 лет назад +1

      Samuel Hawthorne are you trying to get a job with coding??

  • @matthewboyea3860
    @matthewboyea3860 5 лет назад +2

    Hey, I'm fourteen..
    I'm teaching myself C++.
    I've been working on it for awhile, and I'm spending sleepless nights just to make a breakthrough..
    I'm taking a Jr. level math class even though it's only my freshman year, and I even have an internship at a web design company. Honestly, if there's anything I've learned in the short time I've been on this Earth so far, it's that all you can do is work.
    My family sucks. I hate living where I am. My dad told me that he doesn't love me, and my mom's hit me. So.. I'm working immensely hard to get out.
    I'm trying to go to college early, and even already got a 24 on the ACT at the end of 8th grade.
    But.. it doesn't have to be this way. This is just the path I'm taking. If you're 30, 40, 50, even 70.. you can do whatever the fuck you want. Don't think you can't because of your age. I was told that I can't because of my young age.. it's all bullshit. Do something for yourself. Go live your life. It's all up to you, friend.

    • @john26razor
      @john26razor 4 года назад

      How are things going with you? Hope all is well.

  • @jimmygunnz5651
    @jimmygunnz5651 6 лет назад +3

    I love this video bro. Im almost 29 in April. Ill be finishing my degree in 2020. Im hoping that ill be able to code before then and get a position as a web developer. I want to work as a full stack dev and also run my own ecommerce site and a vlog one day. Your vids are awesome

    • @tsohgallik
      @tsohgallik 6 лет назад

      freeway jay
      The vloging stuff you can do now xV... Pick a subject... The new coffee from Starbucks? Make it flashy and have a Click Baity title and poof watch the views roll if RUclips isn't killing your predetermined viewers...

  • @solarasolarwind4323
    @solarasolarwind4323 4 года назад +1

    I find that, as an elderly grandma, I don’t care to be competitive anymore, now I just like to do things I like out of personal satisfaction, I may be so far behind many people in this field, but I get to do what I enjoy and that’s all that matters to me! My biggest revelation is that we never stop learning because life is a rich ocean of new horizons, and every person and/or thing I encounter is a new experience and wonderful memory to look back on!

  • @deelace58
    @deelace58 6 лет назад +7

    I feel like that and I'm almost 60. I'm just learning - on my own - and I am envision whole new world of possibilities...none of which involve working strictly as a developer.

  • @StevWasHere
    @StevWasHere 6 лет назад

    Never too late to code. Find a project/app/website you want to build and coding becomes a lot easier. Try building something that helps you. If it helps you it will probably help others and that's rewarding, and potentially profitable. Age isn't a barrier either, in fact age may help as life experience will come in handy.

  • @azntoastx
    @azntoastx 6 лет назад +9

    In 2016, I graduated with a chemistry degree. I, honestly, did it as a stepping stone, but I, eventually, came to love it. The sad part is that I've been working for 1.5 years, and everything that I learned/loved about chemistry, I can't/don't apply it to my current job as a QC Lab tech or in my industry (cosmetics/personal care). At first, it was quite a dream landing a job in the industry I was second most interested in. When I started, I was so excited thinking I would use all the instruments (GC/HPLC/UVVIS) in the other room daily/solving problems daily/using the analytical techniques I learned in lab, which I don't. I'm doing the same repetitive tasks (answering e-mails, issuing CoAs, doing the same simple tests, data entry etc. stuff with CoAs) as my boss who has been there for 20 years. He said he's stuck, and if I do have a chance to jump ship I should take it. Not sure if it's just my work environment lol. Don't get me wrong, there are pros like making my own cosmetics for fun (not a daily thing) and having the coolest coworkers/bosses. I've learned more about the manufacturing/distribution business than I did utilizing what I learned in college. All in all, it's not as challenging as I thought it would be. We have a room of wonderful instruments that we don't use. I've gotten bored. There are many days where I would sit at my desk on social media not doing any work related things. On some of those days, I've been on codeacademy, khanacademy etc. doing random "courses" like HTML, CSS, (moar) SQL and Python. It's weird. With those skills I've learned, I'm not sure how to apply it/practice it. It's like learning another language, but not having anyone else to speak it with if that makes sense? I feel like I'm going to forget it like I'm starting to forget what I learned in college (it happens a lot apparently). My father is a software engineer, and he always hinted to do computer science (but me being me I did what I did). He didn't force it upon me, but I kind of wish he did. He always said that learning coding should be a hobby first before actual schooling. If it's a hobby, it shows that you are curious to learn/like it. The end of my senior year, I decided to take a C++ class, and it was natural to me (until I had to unfortunately put that class on the 'back-burner' for a while due to my other classes and the last section (~1 mo before finals) was on using matlab!). After I graduated, I decided to dive in once more. I took a week course of SQL at oracle, again it was the same. If I explain about why I enjoyed it, this would be longer than it already is lol. It's quite hard to put into simple words. For a while now, I've been thinking about using my own money to do some pre-requisites and eventually a Masters in Computer Science. I'm just afraid that I'm going to waste money on an education where I will forget 1/2 of it anyway in real life. Any thoughts/have people done this? (sorry for being all over the place lol)

    • @thecurlykale
      @thecurlykale 6 лет назад +2

      i don’t know if you’ll ever read this but i was in pretty much the exact same situation as you, pharma instead of cosmetics. i’m a software developer now and i 100000% recommend it. feel free to message me or reply back. this is the first time i’m replying to someone in here lol 😅

    • @geforce5591
      @geforce5591 6 лет назад

      Thinking about this myself. I'm a M.E. graduate and although I appreciate my current job, since it gives me financial freedom, I think becoming a freelance software developer is more of my style.
      My current plan is to get the pre requisites I can't pass the bridge exams for done at a community college then transfer to a school with good alumni for a masters in CS.
      I'd recommend trying out lynda.com and cousera for the entry level courses so you can pass the bridge exams and save money.

  • @Jasna88
    @Jasna88 4 года назад

    almost 32, been learning html/css for 1.5month, stopped tutorial because i wanted to buil something extra simply, to copy some layout or whatever, i know lots of htmll/css THEORY but i cant make anything past tribute page from '90 so now i kinda stopped, dont know if i will continue

  • @baietzashu94
    @baietzashu94 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you !!!

  • @dogtre2283
    @dogtre2283 6 лет назад

    I've been programming since 2013.
    I was 10 back then.
    Today I'm 14 and I earn over €150/week teaching C and Python.
    I have never been so proud of myself.

  • @radspiderjackson
    @radspiderjackson 6 лет назад +13

    Never seen your channel before, and after seeing actual videos discouraging learning to code thats what I was expecting here but I needed this

  • @ChilloutAirflippers
    @ChilloutAirflippers 6 лет назад

    Im 13 years old and started programming 3 months now, i know HTML, css, javascript, Python and php really good and the basics in sql and Python. I have made one website with a loginsystem and you van upload photos and text. I have been working on it everyday for two weeks and its done soon. I will get 150 bucks for it that i will buy a laptop for. Im sondering if the price is good or not?

  • @ranajerjawi7690
    @ranajerjawi7690 6 лет назад +3

    I started coding at 15 in school! Its super easy and fun

    • @tsohgallik
      @tsohgallik 6 лет назад

      Playing Scratch? That cat minigame?

  • @miasma6666
    @miasma6666 4 года назад

    weird comment here but i kinda like your face expression it really underlines everything you’re saying haha. i’m 32 and just started coding with c++. it’s hard, and i realize that the older i am, the harder is it for me to keep new information in my head. there are days where i’m struggling understanding stuff BUT most of the time i’m making great progress and it’s really fun. im planning to get the c++ basics right until the end of 2020, start learning swift 2021, launch an app on the app store by the end of 2021, and then applying to jobs. that’s the plan and i’m really confident :)

  • @TheTrandana
    @TheTrandana 6 лет назад +6

    JavaScript is not a difficult language to learn. JavaScript is actually one of the easiest to learn. Try C or C++, or Assembly if you want a difficult language.

  • @fercode07
    @fercode07 6 лет назад

    I know just a little of JS, but now my passion is C++
    It is fucking hard for me, i am 31 years old.. and i`m not gonna stop.
    I wanna make some Android games, some desktop games and also some apps.
    It is never to late, the only problem is your mind saying: "I can`t.. it`s hard.." and so on.

  • @Geloandall
    @Geloandall 6 лет назад +53

    ahm. 22 is still like highschoolers for us, that's definitely not old, should have looked for someone older as an example like people in their late 20s or 30s man.

  • @adamestalane5632
    @adamestalane5632 6 лет назад

    Me, after watching this video.
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    .clicked SUBSCRIBE.
    Thank you so much for this. Badly need it.

  • @tejashpatel9490
    @tejashpatel9490 6 лет назад +31

    You are never to late for anything, I don’t like your negative thinking.

    • @dl0428
      @dl0428 6 лет назад

      Chris Sean He didn't

    • @cirogolden8721
      @cirogolden8721 6 лет назад +1

      Lol read title and trolling without watching

  • @zirus377
    @zirus377 6 лет назад

    No it isn’t late to learn prgramming. In fact there’s a shortage of programmers...1.4 million jobs and 400k will work so missing 1M. And why would the title say it’s too late when u said in the video that we can still program...wtf

  • @emmaadward9703
    @emmaadward9703 6 лет назад +6

    I am 39 and i just started learning coding since Feb 2018, am an IT background as well but i never had an opportunity to work in my field, instead i worked in administration and marketing fields, although i don't regret my work experience but i couldn't deny my passion for programming that's why . You are Not to Late for anything you like to do

  • @migueldeguzman3836
    @migueldeguzman3836 6 лет назад

    Dude are you Filipino or have a family bloodline in the Philippines 🇵🇭? Btw. I totally relate to your content on this video. I'm starting to code at the age of 32 after 10 years in the field of finance and accounting. It is not the easiest thing to do but I love the process and working my way through it.

  • @pzrxex
    @pzrxex 6 лет назад +6

    Currently studying Electronics and Computer Engineering at the National Technical Unviersity of Athens.Man it is the best!

    • @vdns477
      @vdns477 6 лет назад

      Hey, another Greek ;)

  • @DieselLWeaselL
    @DieselLWeaselL 6 лет назад

    I feel like a lot of people are just reading the title of the video, disliking, and commenting negatives. I came hear thinking I was going to hear a bunch of bull but it was quite the opposite. Great video... Thank you!!!

  • @abdelazizsaroui5219
    @abdelazizsaroui5219 6 лет назад +3

    thanks man ! that was encouraging

  • @ahhwe-any7434
    @ahhwe-any7434 6 лет назад

    I hate computers. I already want to cry. This video triggers me. Exit before even finishing.

  • @siom7617
    @siom7617 6 лет назад +7

    I remember coming out of the gymnasium, literary ZERO programming experience. Enrolled electrical engineering and the first thing we were taught was HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. I actually failed the exam twice, managed to pass it the third time. The second semester was all about C. Failed that exam once.
    You see, one could say that I might have lost all the interest in programming after so many initial failures. In the matter of fact, it actually increased my will to learn more and program for myself.
    Currently, I'm working on Python, planning to learn more about C++, Java, ... In my spare time, I do lots of things with Arduino, I'm completely into Linux culture and LOVE to set coding challenges for myself and solve them. Even though I'm a student of electrical engineering, I believe that solid programming background is important in that field; hence why I work so much on it.
    Is it difficult? Of course, it is. Do I love it? MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE!!!
    Thank you for the positive words. I wish you well!

  • @KingUnity22
    @KingUnity22 6 лет назад

    Nice clickbaity title to boost people's confidence. I dig it. I'm a computer science major, and right now I would wager the best in my class. Here's to a bright future to those with determination

  • @xSonnet22x
    @xSonnet22x 6 лет назад +14

    I needed to hear this. Thanks so much for making videos.

  • @sasquatch2267
    @sasquatch2267 6 лет назад +2

    Hi Chris - thanks for posting this. Very well said. I learned to code at over 40 and have been a professional software dev for over 3 years. I had a former career in social work/counseling, but needed a change. No regrets. I agree with the gaming analogy as learning to solve technical problems in an elegant way can be addictive and is great fun.

  • @magggggggggggg
    @magggggggggggg 6 лет назад +4

    I always buy a real coconut and make a hold in it and drink with a straw.It's much better than the one from the bottle. You should try! And happy birthday!🎂

    • @anshulrawat0007
      @anshulrawat0007 6 лет назад

      Magdalena Dziarska seriously real coconut with straw is the best thing. 🥥

    • @midnightwatchman1
      @midnightwatchman1 6 лет назад

      I not sure why people buy those horrible tasting crap, calling it organic do not make it any better because it usually straight lie and you do not know how a coconut tree grows

    • @arenuzzle6282
      @arenuzzle6282 6 лет назад

      Brown husk coconut yum

  • @CryptoFeez
    @CryptoFeez 6 лет назад

    Bro super cool video !!!!!!!! New sub ... as a small channel and 30 year old looking into a new career choice just what I needed

  • @thejerzeydude
    @thejerzeydude 6 лет назад +6

    Dumb question- when do we know programming is not for us?

    • @michealodwyer7306
      @michealodwyer7306 6 лет назад +4

      In my opinion, you know programming is not for you when you do not enjoy doing the things that you learnt programming to do.
      For example, if you learnt Java to make games and after learning Java and making a couple games and you do not like it. Then you know programming isn't for you.
      However, consider other fields too that you may find more enjoyable and rewarding. Whatever you pick initially may not be right so look around and try new things.

    • @paulbrouse5392
      @paulbrouse5392 6 лет назад +8

      I'd say if you even have to ask this question, it might not be for you...

    • @clray123
      @clray123 6 лет назад

      When it becomes a boring drudge, basically. As it inevitably will, for most people.

    • @Dalendrion
      @Dalendrion 6 лет назад +2

      There will inevitably be moments where programming is a boring drudge. But such moments are alright. Don't let these moments fool you.
      If the job becomes consistently boring, then you may want a more challenging programming project.
      If the job becomes consistently stressful, then you may want a less challenging programming project.
      There's always a good niche for you.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 6 лет назад +1

      Dalendrion Nope, the drudgery and boredom do not come from a lack of challenge.
      They are mostly based in the reality that you have to relearn the same shit over and over and over again in order to keep up with the changing times / programming languages / tools / APIs / etc. It becomes a stupid read-the-docs memorize-some-things bang-out-more-applications sort of challenge after a short while. And no you don't wish to be challenged even more with difficult (e.g. algorithmically tricky) stuff in order to escape that (not to mention that nobody's going to pay you for toying around with solving interesting puzzles in, say, some obscure hobby language of yours - that's reserved for academics / CS people do). So it's just that you realize that your brain is constantly for sale, occupied with thinking thoughts and minimizing risks forced upon you by your employers (same goes for self-employed contractors) rather than your own free thoughts. You become a thinking machine and problem solver of sorts. And you actually want this harrasment to stop.
      The good thing is that if you're a good thinking machine, you CAN get out of this job pretty early because it pays quite well.

  • @haydenwilsonx
    @haydenwilsonx 3 года назад

    Awesome! Learning JS now alongside financial planning. Appreciate your advice

  • @lobkyit
    @lobkyit 6 лет назад +2

    click bait... people are not ashamed these days

  • @EriktheDev
    @EriktheDev 5 лет назад

    The title almost made me slap the dislike button, but then I watched through the video and was pleasantly surprised with what he actually said. I started programming when I was 13. Nobody is too young or old to code, it just requires a certain amount of time and tenacity that other people may not have.

  • @JasonMitchellAZ
    @JasonMitchellAZ 6 лет назад +1

    Chris Sean, from the title I thought this was going to be a negative video... I'm glad your message was actually "no" it's not too late - thumbs up! :) I've changed my life's direction many times and even now, at 33 years old, I'm still trying to figure shit out. I'm starting to work part-time as a freelance developer, but still not full-time yet (I'm trying, haha, but gotta pay bills with my current full-time gig that's not dev!)...

  • @MaoDev
    @MaoDev 6 лет назад

    This is kind of true, but not totally. Well, when you get older you can't think as good and as fast as you could when you were younger. It's like football players, you can play even when you're old, but no one would hire you if you're not good and with time you will get worse and worse.

  • @EricLouisYoung
    @EricLouisYoung 6 лет назад

    Too many people that shouldn't write code are doing it because of all the hype. My last 4 years of coding was nothing but fixing others shitty code.

  • @tahaait7236
    @tahaait7236 6 лет назад

    Don't be fooled by those guys. Start coding no matter your age is. It's a lot of fun, a lot of logic, and creating so much opportunities for you.

  • @victoza9232
    @victoza9232 6 лет назад

    Chris, I find it amusing when people fret about turning 30, as 30 is still very young. You've hardly lived, man! Just think, in 6 short months you'll be 31. THEN you'll be freakin' old! Just kidding. Even 50 is not old. It's certainly older than 20, 30, or 40, but many millennials think it's ancient. I'm 54, feel as I did when I was 22, and am learning computer networking, security, and several programming languages (in addition to calculus) for fun. Meanwhile, many 20 & 30-year-olds today (not you) are in a state of arrested development, and would rather live with their parents and play video games than go out and get a job.

  • @vuhoang3783
    @vuhoang3783 6 лет назад

    Few years ago, I was interesting in hacker, I want to become a hacker. But now , I’m studying in my college about HTML&CSS & Android Studio :). I really like web and I don’t know why , for me its really cool. When my web is finished I quiet proud of myself. Btw, thks for your video, Chris Sean! And can you help me , I want to be a web developer and I don’t know which languages can improve myself now I just only know HTML&CSS. Thank you for reading Chris Sean!

  • @TRaddcliff
    @TRaddcliff 5 лет назад

    im an animator....and have to use java to write tools. java is pretty easy. not at first...but easy enough to figure out. so many resources out there.

  • @MisterJaay
    @MisterJaay 4 года назад

    HECK IM 34 AND JUST STARTED. WAS A LINGUIST AND POLYGLOT.

  • @tirkentube
    @tirkentube 6 лет назад

    Hey, you're late coming back from lunch. But either way, I've never seen any of your videos. Now I'm a subscriber. Thanks for the very kind words and uplifting vlog.. I'm 34, I battled drug addiction throughout my 20s, and alcoholism in my 30s, but I've been 6 years drug free, and 2 years no alcohol, I quit smoking cigarettes, and then I got colon cancer at 32 yr old, (tumor was removed Oct 2016). My last chemo treatment was a year ago. I'm thinking of tackling coding next.. And your video made me feel that anything is possible.. And now that I look back on this comment as I type it, I see that, if I've made it this far, than it truly is possible.

  • @neotdrum
    @neotdrum 3 года назад +1

    Thanks. I really needed this. I’m 30 and only in the second month of an eight month training. I have(!) to find a job right after, otherwise I won’t be able to pay rent. The way I was ripped of in my former field + Corona led to this.
    The pressure is real. I enjoy coding a lot but our current teacher won’t let us write a single line all day long and it’s sucking all motivation out of me listening to an elderly dude bragging about how good he is with php....
    But that’s no excuse. I’ll have to put in extra hours until late if that’s what it takes. Fullstack-junior or at least a paid internship in six/seven months time!! 🤞

  • @healthhealingandhappinessw6060
    @healthhealingandhappinessw6060 6 лет назад

    Just starting HTML CSS and Java Script at 40. Finally have enough patience and am ready to learn it. It’s exciting! And then onto Blockchain development!!

  • @ir0n2541
    @ir0n2541 6 лет назад

    They have created an AI system that can create other AI systems to do tasks way better than humans can do, soon you'll be able to tell an AI system to create an application for you and it will develop and test it in a matter of minutes. so yeah don't learn code it is actually too late.