@@jwminiatures yeah I’ve been batch painting admech skitarii and necrons for a while. Do all of them in one paint then rotate to next paint step. Works okay.
The thing with the 1:1 incubi darkness/black glaze on the shell was a light bulb moment for me. This is EXACTLY the look I've been chasing since I started working on my kraken scheme! Can't wait to try this out, you've helped me find my grail look
any idea what contrast would replace the sepia shade paint? I have nazdreg yellow, this might work. I'm trying to find a comparison to see which contrast is closest to sepia, but can't find anything. EDIT: seems Trovarion used skeleton horde, so this is probably the way to go. I like how the sepia looks though, so will have to do some testers.
Gotta have something to do while they are all drying lol but you can definitely play around with the number of highlights on the smaller and bigger nids to find what works for you
Just out of curiosity when painting a tyranid model with a fleshy skin tone that has slight pink hues at the joints what would be a good carapace color? I know the question might seem a little specific but I’m going for a grim dark style of tyranid and thought you might have a good suggestion on the colors, thanks.
It sounds kind of close the the Leviathan scheme but generally warmer colours always contrast well with a cooler counterpart. Cold purples, blues and tones like that, if you going with higher values in the skin then you can use lower values across the carapace focusing your highlights towards to edge for more contrast. if you have pictures feel free to share them and I might be able to offer more suggestions. Hope that helps
Hey man, awesome guide! I've been looking for a way to get my Kraken scheme carapaces looking more interesting and less dull and your glaze with the incubi worked like a treat! One question that came to mind re-watching your vid, judging from the pot you show I assume that's the old formulation of Seraphim Sepia rather than the newer altered mix. I'm not sure if the new stuff would work exactly as well as I think from what I've seen it appears to not dry as dark, but then again that's not applying two coats, what are your thoughts? Also on the topic of washes, do you use them neat or do you thin them with a little medium/water?
Thank you mate. Thats a good eye, it is one of the older pots but I believe the new ones are meant to be better at recess shading and not as good at tinting. This shouldn't have too much of an impact, if it happens to not be as dark just apply another layer and it should be fine. When I painted this one it was effectively straight out of the pot, there may have been more moisture or water on my brush but nothing significant. In some of the other schemes I have thinned them down, it just depends on how much colour I am after. I generally thin everything with water because its easier and always on hand.
@@jwminiatures Yeah that's a good shout, I'll have to pick some up and compare but it'll probably not being notable by the end of paint job. The less staining might even make the following layers go a bit easier, I'm already considering dry brushing the Tallarn Sand layer just to speed up the process across the literal swarm of gaunts I've got on the hobby desk haha.
I don't think the carapace glazing works on the older minis, as they don't have the detailed plastic, it's all flat. I've tried a few ways and it just doesn't seem to work. I might just have to skip this on the older ones. I was trying it with watered down black contrast though (and then soft body black from secret weapon) maybe actually cutting my own glaze will have better results. I can't try much more though as I can't keep painting back over it, or it's going to end up a mess. EDIT: on my tester Zoanthrope I just ended up doing some old school panel lining style shading on the carapace, as there is nothing for the pigments to grab onto (like on these new nids) it looks cool. I have no really mastered glazing yet though, like the consistency really. Maybe the vallejo black I was using wasn't very good for glazing though, as I just kept getting tide marks like with citadel shade paints.
It could be a consistency thing or down to the amount of paint and water in your brush. When you are glazing it should be tinting the colour by applying a thin filter layer over the top not necessarily like washing so having the texture shouldn't effect it too much. If you check out ruclips.net/video/Pga58A9c-aI/видео.html it might give you some pointers or if you want to send me some pictures or videos of your process I can try to provide some feedback
@@jwminiatures yeah, for me it was a case that I'd put paint down, but I couldn't move it. the pigment would stain when I tried to move the paint any further. I don't know if this is because it was black on red or the kind of red or black. I just gave up on it though and did something else. I tried it with a glaze I made, contrast paint and soft body black wash from secret weapon and I got the same result in all attempts. The pigment was staining the initially area and when I tried to move it it was leaving rings. I assume the paint is just drying way too quickly. I ended up having to strip the piece I was practicing on because I couldn't keep covering it up. I ended up with way too thick red on the carapace, so stripped it. I have spare Zoanthrope heads though, so just built another one while the paint loosens off the other.
Fair play I've been there and had those tide marks happen to me but it's good to hear you've experimented with a few different approaches. Hopefully you continue to practice the technique and I'm happy to help along the way
I would stay close to the skin colours but use something a bit darker and more muted. You could maybe even bring in some very subtle hints of pink or red to areas to give that more fleshy look to it
From memory the base mix is probably 60 Abaddon Black, 30 Incubi Darkness and 5-10 Screaming Skull. From here I am just adding more Screaming Skull. I tend to mix by eye and don't really follow recipes, I try to encourage people to do the same.
Great video. Would love for you to mention how much time each step and/or model takes you in your videos. That way it allows us to gauge whether or not it would be worth the time to paint up to this standard!
i cant wait to try glazing my carapaces! i struggle with finding a good middle ground between good enough and perfectionist level of painting, so i love the break between "you can stop here" and "this is how you can elevate it"
Saw your post on reddit , I was thrilled to see you had a youtube and uploaded a tutorial for this. With leviathan right around the corner and having never painted nids before this is just what i needed ! Thank you so much for sharing your techniques !
Absolutely superb, I’m beyond excited to get back to painting, it’s been a few. Something I’m curious about is where did you get or what are those holders you’re using? Those are so friggin nifty, I’ve always just tested my hand on my other fingers. Fingers get exhausted after awhile lol.
Thank you! Great to hear you are getting back into painting. The holders I use are the Rathcore miniature holder V3 and Rather miniature grip V3. I get mine from element games - elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/rathcore?d=10816
@@jwminiatures such amazing little holders, I’m going to have to see how much shipping is for a filthy American and possibly snag one or a few for multiple models. The bar to steady your hand is awesome.
I absolutely adore this scheme. You’ve done an amazing job! The best tyranid I’ve ever seen. I play Hive Fleet Behemoth. If I wanted to achieve the same kind of effect on the armored plates like you’ve done with the red here, what colors should I use for the blue? Thank you for your time, and awesome job
Thank you mate, glad you like it. I think if I was doing Hive Fleet Behemoth I would be tending towards Thousand Sons Blue, Ahriman Blue and a final highlight of something like Temple Guard Blue
Hi! I'm JUST getting into the Warhammer 40k and i chose NIDS as my army. I'm LOVING this color scheme. Question though, do you think i should atempt this (would be my first time paiting a miniature) or stick with GWs bod art stuff? I was able to pre-order the Leviathan box
Brilliant mate welcome to the hobby. This is pretty close to the box art, there are some minor differences in the highlight colour choices in places. If it was me I would definitely think give it a go and see how you get on but remember to enjoy the process and the experience getting into a new hobby. If you want to post some pics of how you get on and want some feedback or tips let me know.
Oh wow, haven't even watched the video yet and I like it!!!
Thank you mate, hope you enjoyed it!
Just gonna go do this 40 consecutive times when my box gets here.
I’m pretty sure you could batch paint parts of it no issue but I’m looking forward to seeing 40 of these done
@@jwminiatures yeah I’ve been batch painting admech skitarii and necrons for a while. Do all of them in one paint then rotate to next paint step. Works okay.
New sub here what a great set of guides
Thank you very much for the support!
The thing with the 1:1 incubi darkness/black glaze on the shell was a light bulb moment for me. This is EXACTLY the look I've been chasing since I started working on my kraken scheme! Can't wait to try this out, you've helped me find my grail look
That is great to hear. I'm glad that helped. Share some pics when you try it
any idea what contrast would replace the sepia shade paint? I have nazdreg yellow, this might work.
I'm trying to find a comparison to see which contrast is closest to sepia, but can't find anything.
EDIT: seems Trovarion used skeleton horde, so this is probably the way to go. I like how the sepia looks though, so will have to do some testers.
I think Skeleton Horde is going to give you a lighter finish, I think something like Snakebite Leather might give you deeper and warmer shadows
I've tried Aggaros dunes and it's also a similar effect.
Great video! If i had to use a single spray, would it be a grey or a white one?
I start from a grey base but you can use either. A white base will give your colours a tiny bit more pop
@@jwminiaturesThanks!
You did a great great job. Love this scheme and hive fleet lore. Great job.
Awesome mate, thank you very much!
3 levels of highlights? My brother of the hivemind, I have over 120 gaunts to paint.
Gotta have something to do while they are all drying lol but you can definitely play around with the number of highlights on the smaller and bigger nids to find what works for you
Just out of curiosity when painting a tyranid model with a fleshy skin tone that has slight pink hues at the joints what would be a good carapace color? I know the question might seem a little specific but I’m going for a grim dark style of tyranid and thought you might have a good suggestion on the colors, thanks.
It sounds kind of close the the Leviathan scheme but generally warmer colours always contrast well with a cooler counterpart. Cold purples, blues and tones like that, if you going with higher values in the skin then you can use lower values across the carapace focusing your highlights towards to edge for more contrast. if you have pictures feel free to share them and I might be able to offer more suggestions. Hope that helps
I'm not excited for 40k in the slightest but I'm here for this legend!
Cheers mate
I love your kraken. Could you paint more example models? For example von ryan, kraken scheme
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it. It’s something I could look into in the future.
i'm so undecided on how to paint my nids but daym this is good!
Thank you very much, well I look forward to seeing what you do with them when you decide
Hey man, awesome guide! I've been looking for a way to get my Kraken scheme carapaces looking more interesting and less dull and your glaze with the incubi worked like a treat! One question that came to mind re-watching your vid, judging from the pot you show I assume that's the old formulation of Seraphim Sepia rather than the newer altered mix. I'm not sure if the new stuff would work exactly as well as I think from what I've seen it appears to not dry as dark, but then again that's not applying two coats, what are your thoughts? Also on the topic of washes, do you use them neat or do you thin them with a little medium/water?
Thank you mate. Thats a good eye, it is one of the older pots but I believe the new ones are meant to be better at recess shading and not as good at tinting. This shouldn't have too much of an impact, if it happens to not be as dark just apply another layer and it should be fine. When I painted this one it was effectively straight out of the pot, there may have been more moisture or water on my brush but nothing significant. In some of the other schemes I have thinned them down, it just depends on how much colour I am after. I generally thin everything with water because its easier and always on hand.
@@jwminiatures Yeah that's a good shout, I'll have to pick some up and compare but it'll probably not being notable by the end of paint job. The less staining might even make the following layers go a bit easier, I'm already considering dry brushing the Tallarn Sand layer just to speed up the process across the literal swarm of gaunts I've got on the hobby desk haha.
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Fantastic work!
Thank you
I don't think the carapace glazing works on the older minis, as they don't have the detailed plastic, it's all flat. I've tried a few ways and it just doesn't seem to work. I might just have to skip this on the older ones. I was trying it with watered down black contrast though (and then soft body black from secret weapon) maybe actually cutting my own glaze will have better results.
I can't try much more though as I can't keep painting back over it, or it's going to end up a mess.
EDIT: on my tester Zoanthrope I just ended up doing some old school panel lining style shading on the carapace, as there is nothing for the pigments to grab onto (like on these new nids) it looks cool. I have no really mastered glazing yet though, like the consistency really. Maybe the vallejo black I was using wasn't very good for glazing though, as I just kept getting tide marks like with citadel shade paints.
It could be a consistency thing or down to the amount of paint and water in your brush. When you are glazing it should be tinting the colour by applying a thin filter layer over the top not necessarily like washing so having the texture shouldn't effect it too much. If you check out ruclips.net/video/Pga58A9c-aI/видео.html it might give you some pointers or if you want to send me some pictures or videos of your process I can try to provide some feedback
@@jwminiatures thanks.
@@jwminiatures yeah, for me it was a case that I'd put paint down, but I couldn't move it. the pigment would stain when I tried to move the paint any further.
I don't know if this is because it was black on red or the kind of red or black. I just gave up on it though and did something else.
I tried it with a glaze I made, contrast paint and soft body black wash from secret weapon and I got the same result in all attempts.
The pigment was staining the initially area and when I tried to move it it was leaving rings.
I assume the paint is just drying way too quickly.
I ended up having to strip the piece I was practicing on because I couldn't keep covering it up. I ended up with way too thick red on the carapace, so stripped it.
I have spare Zoanthrope heads though, so just built another one while the paint loosens off the other.
Fair play I've been there and had those tide marks happen to me but it's good to hear you've experimented with a few different approaches. Hopefully you continue to practice the technique and I'm happy to help along the way
Awesome video. I've been wanting to do the Hive Fleet Kraken scheme for my lizardmen. After watching your video I think this should be possible.
Thank you mate, I'm glad you found it helpful. I'd never thought about applying this scheme to lizardmen, be sure to share some pics when you try it!
Really Helpful Video, has given me some inspiration for my Winged Hive Tyrant, also great to hear a Norn Iron accent
Glad you enjoyed it! Good to meet another Norn Iron painter!
@@jwminiatures just wondering how to paint the wing membrane , 🤔
I would stay close to the skin colours but use something a bit darker and more muted. You could maybe even bring in some very subtle hints of pink or red to areas to give that more fleshy look to it
@@jwminiatures perfect thanks for the advice I’ll send some photos as I progress
Great video! Really liked the little brown dots to help blend from chitin to skin! Very nice idea!
Thank you mate! Glad you enjoyed it
I might pay you to paint my Tyranids bro. Beautiful work, love it. keep it up and don't stop believing in yourself.
Thank you mate, appreciate it!
I was looking for a scheme to paint up the new Tyranids as Hive Fleet Kraken and then RUclips recommended you and I realise I’ve found it! Subbed!
Great to hear mate. Glad you liked it. Feel free to share some pictures once you get some models painted!
also what's the mix for the black, incubi darkness and screaming skull, please?
From memory the base mix is probably 60 Abaddon Black, 30 Incubi Darkness and 5-10 Screaming Skull. From here I am just adding more Screaming Skull. I tend to mix by eye and don't really follow recipes, I try to encourage people to do the same.
Going to go with this paint scheme bro. One of my favs. Great guide JW! Love from New Zealand
Thank you buddy, you'll have to share some photos when you get it painted!
Great video. Would love for you to mention how much time each step and/or model takes you in your videos. That way it allows us to gauge whether or not it would be worth the time to paint up to this standard!
Thank you mate. That's not a bad suggestion, I'll keep it in mind going forward.
i cant wait to try glazing my carapaces! i struggle with finding a good middle ground between good enough and perfectionist level of painting, so i love the break between "you can stop here" and "this is how you can elevate it"
Thank you mate, I'm glad you enjoyed the format. Let me know how you get on and feel free to share some pics!
Incredible work, very striking color scheme! 😱
Thank you very much
I like the division between "this is fine, hit the table" and "but if you WANT to punch it up." Fantastic looking mini.
Thank you very much, I'm glad you found that separation of steps helpful!
Saw your post on reddit , I was thrilled to see you had a youtube and uploaded a tutorial for this. With leviathan right around the corner and having never painted nids before this is just what i needed ! Thank you so much for sharing your techniques !
Thank you for coming over and checking it out. Glad you found it helpful and enjoyed it
Mans content is blowing up! Great scheme and loving the new hobby setup.
Thank you very much mate, appreciate it
Love this kraken scheme! also the Leviathan scheme you did is hands down my favorite nids scheme ever. Would love to know the recipe for that one too
Thank you very much. I should have a video for the Leviathan scheme out in the very near future, so keep an eye out
Absolutely superb, I’m beyond excited to get back to painting, it’s been a few. Something I’m curious about is where did you get or what are those holders you’re using? Those are so friggin nifty, I’ve always just tested my hand on my other fingers. Fingers get exhausted after awhile lol.
Thank you! Great to hear you are getting back into painting. The holders I use are the Rathcore miniature holder V3 and Rather miniature grip V3. I get mine from element games - elementgames.co.uk/paints-hobby-and-scenery/rathcore?d=10816
@@jwminiatures such amazing little holders, I’m going to have to see how much shipping is for a filthy American and possibly snag one or a few for multiple models. The bar to steady your hand is awesome.
You’re my new go to for tutorials my guy, fantastic execution and a really great scheme
Thank you very much mate, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Loved this Vid dude, very helpful and the Mini looks fab
Thank you mate. Glad you found it helpful
Great job, enjoyed the simplicity but so much details.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Another great video dude always look forward to seeing your stuff!
Thank you mate, I appreciate that!
Nicely done! Very refreshing way of painting the kraken!
Thank you very much! Glad you liked it.
I absolutely adore this scheme. You’ve done an amazing job! The best tyranid I’ve ever seen. I play Hive Fleet Behemoth. If I wanted to achieve the same kind of effect on the armored plates like you’ve done with the red here, what colors should I use for the blue? Thank you for your time, and awesome job
Thank you mate, glad you like it. I think if I was doing Hive Fleet Behemoth I would be tending towards Thousand Sons Blue, Ahriman Blue and a final highlight of something like Temple Guard Blue
Just check this and GW recommend Sotek Green, Baharroth Green and white.
Awesome video, subscribed!
Glad you liked it and thank you for the sub!
Hi! I'm JUST getting into the Warhammer 40k and i chose NIDS as my army. I'm LOVING this color scheme. Question though, do you think i should atempt this (would be my first time paiting a miniature) or stick with GWs bod art stuff? I was able to pre-order the Leviathan box
Brilliant mate welcome to the hobby. This is pretty close to the box art, there are some minor differences in the highlight colour choices in places. If it was me I would definitely think give it a go and see how you get on but remember to enjoy the process and the experience getting into a new hobby. If you want to post some pics of how you get on and want some feedback or tips let me know.
@@jwminiatures I think you gave me the confidence to try this scheme! Thank you!
@@jwminiaturesWill you be doing any other models in this scheme? Would be really helpful to see.
@@marvinw.1765 I might be doing more in this scheme. I'm testing out a couple of other schemes first before I commit to one hive fleet
Wow, amazing job 😮👍
Thank you mate!