Trenton & Heath can yall do a video on how to break in boots quicker? Jusg got a pair of Dayton Parade Brogues and man i have a nice quarter size blister on each foot now 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Leave it to these guys to take a brand new pair of expensive shoes and make them look even better. When they're your boots add some info about laces and lacing. And some video footage on sliding your socked foot into the new shoes which are likely still stiff. Uh, shoehorn? . Thanks for this particular video guys. Every time I watch your videos I'm reminded of how much better care I could/should/will be taking of my shoes and boots. No more wax in the brogue holes.
I bought my first pair of leather boots in 2016 and all the conditioning products I could get my hands on. I honestly enjoyed the polishing routine, it was relaxing. Those boots always had a pretty glossy finish and I often got compliments on how fancy they were (cowboy boots are rarely seen where I'm from). This video inspired me to bring them out again. Thanks for the tips, Trenton! =D
Love the AE Daltons! These are my go-to's (in Walnut). Easily four days a week, seven months a year boot for me, for maybe the last six years. Re-soled twice.
I'd love to see some saphir cream colour/comparisons/recommendations for different tones of shoes etc. I just put mahogany on my oxblood daltons. They look amazing!
I absolutely love these videos! Some of the best on leather shoes but do you think one day you could do one reviewing what each shoe product is, the cremes vs. the waxes. Don't have to focus on brands just their purpose. It would really be appreciated as I keep feeling I don't have the right products for my boots
Great video. It was really good to see how you went through all the steps and hear the explanation compared to the other video where you only explained it.
One thing I do (in addition to what Trenton showed) is to take a dollop of "Bick 4" conditioner (about the size of a half-dollar) on my fingers and reach up into the toe and coat the entire interior leather (underside of the toe/vamp, etc.) and the entire footbed. After that soaks in, I insert my cedars. I then take the Bick 4 and apply a bead where the welt meets the upper and allow that to soak in. I also use the Bick 4 on the soles and edges. The outside of the uppers get the same treatment Trenton showed. I've found this to make the break-in VERY easy. The only reason I use the Bick 4, rather than the Saphir on the areas I specified is, it's way more cost effective to use it on those areas not seen/showcased. And, since AE is making me very happy by lining the full inside of my shoe with leather, rather than canvas, I don't want that leather drying and cracking over time. The areas of flex along that welt, I want that leather to remain supple too.
Simply amazing. When you said to bring out a shine I was thinking to myself, The boots are gonna look terrible they shouldn’t be that shiny. Wow did you ever prove me wrong they ended up turning out amazing. Thank you for all of your videos I can sit here and watch them all day long. I absolutely love anything leather even though I don’t own a lot because it’s a little too expensive for me. My dream job would be a leather worker.
Ha! I went to that same store (where Five Guys used to be) and got the same boots in 2015. Time to condition them again. I got cedar trees with them ofc.
Very nice. I bought that exact same boot 2 weeks ago. Took it so my local shoe shine guy to condition and polish them, then to the cobbler for some sole protectors, and now I am good to go.
What?! No tear down? I was oozing with anticipatory excitement to see how well these AEs are constructed. Just kidding....I think they are absolutely stunning. Keep up the excellent presentations.
Do not get the factory seconds! I have oxblood dalton that I waited for a couple of years to find seconds under $300. Now they regularly go on sale for firsts about that price. With the quality lapses these days at AE, getting the seconds is just asking for trouble. I love the boots, but each was a different color and the tongue in one is completely sideways. The tongue isn't visible when laced and I've worked the colors close to even, but just wish I'd have gone for firsts out the gate. Great video as always guys!
There are definitely risks you take with the Seconds, but I had a great experience with mine. I just picked up a pair of Daltons as seconds for $160 in dark brown (same color as in the video). They're beautiful. I think the "flaw" is that they're not exactly the same color. My dark brown cream is arriving on Tuesday, so that won't be a problem for me.
iliketoflips, glad to hear you got a great deal without the extra hassle. One of mine was reddish with some more pink areas and the other was more of a brownish red. Between the Hermes red and mahogany saphir creams, was able to lighten one and darken the other to bring them around. Best of luck with yours! And the extra effort sort of made me more attached to these boots in the end.
I use saddle soap to clean my shoes and boots. I also work the polishes into the leather with my fingers, using the saddle soap to clean the wax off my fingers. Another idea to use if time is against you is to apply the Wax and and spray your boots/shoes with water and then use your horsehair brush to achieve a nice shine. This I learned in my military basic training and remember not too glossy (perfection in one area brings out the flaws in the rest of your attire). Great video.
Love the color. The light color of the sole, (as opposed to black), is what really sets this beautiful boot off. Someone in the comments, suggested the color of these boots is oxblood. But I don't think they are. They look like a whiskey brown, with some black wax applied. I wonder what the official color, Allen Edmonds, markets these as? I am sure they are not oxblood. Anyway...beautiful boot. I was considering getting a pair of Dalton's, but in a light tan. Or British Tan, as some call them. But after seeing these...I may reconsider. Brilliant color.
I also just broke out a new pair of boots - brand name is Geox - they have a patent sole where there are holes which let out air so your foot can breath but not water in and are waterproof. I decided to condition them but looking at the instructions on the product and the website there was a complete contradiction. The website said to maintain the shoes with creams and wax but the info attached to the shoe and in the box warn not to use any cleaning products at all and just wipe with a dry or damp cloth to clean. A little confused - apparently Italian leather - mine are a black pair toe cap derby - so decide to apply a little Saphir Renovateur into the toe caps to begin with. At this point I realised there was already quite a lot of product on the boot as the white towel I used to apply the Renovateur went black 😂 anyway I worked in the Renovateur and buffed and it came up with a great shine. So clearly the product has already been prepared so will wear for a while before treating again. I like the boots but unfortunately they are single use only as the company do not resole and the sole is unique. I never buy this style of shoe or boot (single use) but just thought I would give this brand a try. I suppose I could just resole with a completely different sole...............
Wow! That's a sharp looking boot. I just purchased a pair and will wear them with jeans and perhaps chinos. I don't believe I will wear them with suits. I prefer the PA and 5th Ave for suits.
Just read on AE website that the Dalton’s are being closed out so supplies are limited and on sale this month for $285 were $475. Great deal - get them while you can. Great looking boot and video. Just ordered the same pair - what a deal!
What do you mean closed out? I got a pair during Black Friday for $285. Had to pull the trigger, and now I am so glad I did. Just got the boots, and am in love.
My new black Dalton's came in today and they have been sitting since at least 2017, based on the AE logo. I followed you method to prep them and they are looking great. Thanks for posting this video!
With suede shoes, you need to be careful. No, definitely don't put a regular conditioner onto your suede or else you'll ruin them. Suede is treated very differently than smooth leathers. If you want to occasionally condition the suede, you can use a spray conditioner such as the Saphir Renovateur Suede & Nubuck spray. It has conditioners in it, as well as a waterproofer. Other than a product such as that, just keep them clean and waterproofed, if you like, and they'll be fine. Suede is a pretty resilient leather.
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Stirling boots that are black with natural leather showing that I could drop off to you if you want to show how to shine and protect those.
I have some of those, on mine I use, Saphir Oiled Leather leather Cuirs Gras, really good for this type of boot and also it won't darken the natural leather , I think this version is much better looking than the newer all black version
I have the same boots in the same color. I do like them. A little tight in the vamp area for me but I haven’t worn them enough for a thorough break-in. Great with jeans and chinos. Nice shine job btw...
@@TrentonHeath After you put the shoe trees in what was the product you used to reconditioned your shoes and what was the name of the neutral shoe cream?
Great content. I've never worn dress shoes or even boots because I don't know where to find a nice pair in Philadelphia for a good price. That being said, those look great!
What do u think of Obenauf’s oil? I use the lightest coat on my dress shoes. It’s probably a quarter of the amt you used of Renovateur, bc a little goes a verrrrrry long way. I use a synthetic, not very absorbent paint brush to apply. I don’t think I’ll ever get thru a bottle for reference, but I like how transparent they are about ingredients and how u could use it on human skin.
I have a question. I have 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds that I have only ever used the A.E. cream polishes in since day 1 (about 2 years ago). I’ve never used a dedicated conditioner or wax. I also only wear them for occasional use; not daily or even weekly. They’ve also had shoe trees since day 1. After watching your channel, I just ordered the 3 step Saphir regimen (Renovateur, cream polish, mirror gloss). My question is: Do I need to strip the AE cream polish off the shoes before beginning again with the Renovateur? Or will the conditioner absorb into the leather through the existing layer of cream polish? Thank you, and keep up the great videos!
Do you ever use Resolene? I make leather holsters and sheaths and use that to lock the pigments in. Gives a satin finish but can be buffed up. Also seems to harden the leather a bit.
Am I correct, is Dark Chili the color of this boot? Because if it is, tomorrow (1/10/20) I'm placing my order for these Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. Can't wait! Oh, with red Dainite sole. ZAM! After I tried these on in the store and laced them all the way up, the manager at Allen Edmonds, Madison and 44th, NYC (Todd), advised me that when you are breaking in these boots, for the first few days at least, do not lace them up to the top so they fit around your ankle snugly. He advised to leave the top few lace holes open, and only tie the shoes up to, say, the 4th hole from the top and leave the shoe loose above that. He said this will make it easier to break them in, and gently but strongly warned that if you do not, you could give your ankles sores and cut into the skin a bit, and be miserable. I appreciated the advice and I will be following it... I also directed him to this channel and he was VERY excited. I told him about your visit to the Nashville store, and he knows that big, beautiful guy that manages that location. Todd, if you are out there and reading this, leave a comment!
Does the wax protect the leather in any way. Still studying this want to buy some long lasting leather boots. Now i know how important it is to condition from a video from you guys. Will do it to some of the leather ones i have right now. Love it!
Nice choice, my man. My Shell Cordovan Daltons should be ready for pickup in the Nashville store next month. Btw thanks for the tips on the broguing. That part absolutely killed me every time I went for a mirror shine on my Walnut Strands. Any tips on minimizing dried up shoe cream buildup along broguing edges?
I don't know if you know, just in case you don't, you don't need to use a lot of creams and polishes on shell cordovan all you really need to do is brush the hell out of it, the more you brush the better it will look although conditioning will be necessary, just thought I'd let that out there just in case
Light Treason Very nice!! I was looking at those when I was in there. It’s harder to keep the cream out. Again, maybe just go a bit easier on the amount you’re putting on around the broguing and start your initial “rub” on a smoother portion of the toe or side and then rub over the brogue areas. As far as cleaning the old creams, saddle or leather soap usually does a good job stripping a lot of the old cream off.
Thanks for the advice and instruction. Can you tell me if this would apply to Shell Cordovan? I've gotten mixed messaging because with Aldens, they apply a wax.
I recently ordered a pair of Beckett Simonon Jodhpur boots in Bordeaux(a wine red/purple similar to Burgundy) and I was wondering in what order should I get the shoe care products. Should I go for renevatuer and a horsehair brush first or a pair of shoe or boot trees? But it is nice to see what should be done to a new pair of leather footwear. This channel is pretty enjoyable to watch and is nicely informative.
Kool Kyurem25 Nice! Those are good looking boots. I would definitely go for the shoe trees first, followed by some good conditioner soon afterwards. Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I've seen boot trees and then saw you use shoe trees on your boots and it left me wondering if boot trees are a waste since they're more expensive than shoe trees typically and seem to be much harder to get anyways. So it's fine to use normal shoe trees for boots?
Kool Kyurem25 Boot trees are nice, but shoe trees will do the job. 99% of the sweat and creasing is occurring around the foot part of the boot, so that’s where the shoe trees are needed.
Have you gentlemen ever worked on Allen Edmonds Bayfield boots, and if so, are they any good? They appear to be a discontinued model, however I found a pre-owned pair online that appear to be in decent shape.
Hey! Love your videos, gentlemen! I am guilty of getting those waxes into the 'broguing', because I do exactly what you said not to do. Now, how do I get them out and start over? Cheers!
I'm sure this is a well known technique but I'm unsure how to properly strip off saphir shoe cream. I fear that my experimentation with a patina ended poorly and would like to start over! Thank you for the advice.
Renomat is great, but the elegant Oxford guy says he just uses a mixture of 1 part acetone and 2-3 parts water. Spritz a rag (not the shoe directly), and be sure to apply a conditioner after you're done stripping whatever you need to remove.
CrispyFrenFry Like both of these gents said, Renomat and acetone are both good at stripping off old buildup. If you don’t have a lot of old cream buildup, saddle soap dies a good job removing cream; however, if it’s really bad, the Renomat or acetone will probably be needed. Just go easy with either, as both can take the patina and factory coloring off if you scrub too hard with them.
This is a cool insight into your personal style. I think it would be fun to see a walk-through of your personal shoes to see what you wear! Maybe there are some surprises in there . . . haha
Woodlore Co has a perfect boot tree that would be absolutely perfect for your AE Dalton’s. They reach up like 6” so they would hold the shape of the entire boot. Check them out.
No, the boot trees keep the form taut and enable the boot to dry with a form in it. Please check them out, as I haven’t bought them yet for my boots which I just received in the mail after Christmas. I just shoe trees in all of my shoes and they increase the life of the shoe looking beautiful.
stephen turner wax got into the brogue. Thought there is some way to get it all out at once. But I just clean each brogue one by one. Thanks for the reply.
Are you familiar with Allen Edmonds Ashbury chelsea boots? These are a distressed/rough leather look...how would you go about caring for this type of leather?
I recently bought a pair of Red Wing’s Blacksmith boot in the Copper Rough and Tough color (No. 3343). Would you recommend applying any cream to that leather, or would a regular brushing and shoe trees be just fine?
Wonderful presentation and gorgeous finish. I'm the Instagram follower who mentioned that I had purchased the exact same boot in Dark Chili and had sole protectors applied applied by a local cobbler. How do you feel about sole protectors?
Arthur Kurtz Hi! I think sole protectors are a great idea. They help provide a little traction and definitely prevent having to resole the boot/shoe. Plus, you still get that leather sole feel. I have them on a couple of pairs of my shoes.
Love your videos and the fact that you bought a pair for yourself - do you have an "ideal" pair of sub-$500 boots? I have a few pairs of AE but not sure what the next step up should be or to invest more time and care in the products that I buy.
Great videos. Do you have any experience with Allen Edmond's weatherproof leather shoes? Specifically the Park Aves? I'm wondering if the leather can take the rain better than other oxfords in the space (C&J and Loakes).
I noticed your laces are criss cross instead of barred . Is their any reason for one over the other or is it just the look you prefer? I like the mirror shine on the toe and heal on my Allen Edmonds. I’m old so my collection is about 15 pair of these as I only wear AE shoes and boots. I love my Daltons best have one grey and one chili pair calf skin and one pair of Shell Cordovan in a dark chili (brown). My others are mostly MacNeil in all colors and two of these are Shell Cordovan. Also have two pair of Polo AE calf skin saddle shoes in maroon and black. These are my oldest and have been resoled and healed by a local as AE will no longer do any Recrafting on them. He said his machines use the same holes so these can have new soles and heals as often as I want. He also applies a new layer of cork when redoing them. My old oldest pair of these are cracked on the uppers but I use them for working in the yard and mowing. I still polish them and do apply the renovating cream then the coloring cream then a light coat of wax as you described, Love my AE shoes but it is not the same quality it was in the 1970’s through the 1990’s. Too much corporate America influenced by bottom line production instead of quality and customer service now. I had a pair of MacNeils that were dark brown and bought them in 1976. I sent them in for Recrafting and they called and said they trashed them! They sent me a brand new pair of The new MacNeils with the soft inner sole. I wear a 12C and pay extra for the width adjustment ($100). These new ones are comfortable but not the same. I still wear them but not as often. I rotate through all of them and never wear the same pair twice in a week. They will last forever if taken care of them ! Thank you, Stephen R. - Haslet, TX
Hey Trenton & Heath, great tutorial. Thank you! Do you have a video on how you are supposed to care for Terracotta-style leather boots? (Wax, products, etc?).
Is the conditioner you used called: Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovator? All their names are in french and I don't know which is conditioner what is shoe cream.
i was a bit confused. so you have the wax, cream and conditioner right? which of this to apply first? correct me if i'm wrong. conditioner -> cream -> wax... is that the correct order?
So I have these dark brown (chocolate) double monks. Can I make them lighter by using the light brown saphir creme or will they just be dark brown forever?
Trenton & Heath will correct me if I'm wrong about this, but you can probably use a little RenoMat to strip out some of the original dye. Condition your shoes to put that moisture back in, then use the light brown saphir cream. It may take several applications, but I'm pretty confident it would work just fine.
talking about shoe trees.....thanks to your videos and other, I always use my shoe trees on my leather shoes......even though they are not highly branded it still seem a good idea and the creases are less visible now......... but when I visited my formerly trusted cobbler to resole some shoes....he mentioned that those shoe trees are worse for those shoes.......even though the upper was well maintained and just the glued on sole had to be replaced... So in his opinion shoe trees are not a real solution........hmmmmm I changed my cobbler since then...and found one that seems to be alright...at least for glue jobs!
Love this channel and this boot - just bought it. It seems that the Saphir Mirror Gloss Médaille d'Or is nearly impossible to get now. What do you recommend as an alternative?
At 4:01, I meant to say “yes, you can apply wax right after the conditioner.” Sorry guys!
Stephen Ryan Thank you!
Trenton & Heath can yall do a video on how to break in boots quicker? Jusg got a pair of Dayton Parade Brogues and man i have a nice quarter size blister on each foot now 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Forgiven...
Sir, where are you from? I wanna say midwest!
Great video. If you use mirror shine or wax. How would condition later? Would you have to strip it with renovator?
This is the channel I didn't know I needed.
Leave it to these guys to take a brand new pair of expensive shoes and make them look even better. When they're your boots add some info about laces and lacing. And some video footage on sliding your socked foot into the new shoes which are likely still stiff. Uh, shoehorn? . Thanks for this particular video guys. Every time I watch your videos I'm reminded of how much better care I could/should/will be taking of my shoes and boots. No more wax in the brogue holes.
thepowderriverfarrier Great video ideas! . We will definitely be following up on these topics. Thank you, sir!
I'd love to see an update on these--how they've worn, patina development, any issues and if they drew you to wear them often!
I bought my first pair of leather boots in 2016 and all the conditioning products I could get my hands on. I honestly enjoyed the polishing routine, it was relaxing. Those boots always had a pretty glossy finish and I often got compliments on how fancy they were (cowboy boots are rarely seen where I'm from). This video inspired me to bring them out again. Thanks for the tips, Trenton! =D
Love the AE Daltons! These are my go-to's (in Walnut). Easily four days a week, seven months a year boot for me, for maybe the last six years. Re-soled twice.
I recently got a pair of Daltons too! My local cobbler sold me a pair of Daltons $60 and gave me a complimentary JR resole too!
Outstanding! That is one VERY nice shoe cobbler! 👍🏻
Brad Le you son of a gun!
Sir thats a long way of saying you're a bandit lol
The difference is night and day with the before and after. They already looked good - you made them look better.
Thank you! I appreciate it.
I'd love to see some saphir cream colour/comparisons/recommendations for different tones of shoes etc. I just put mahogany on my oxblood daltons. They look amazing!
Now on sale at 300 usd, I think it's a good deal for these boots !
Definitely! That’s what I paid. Snagged them during this most recent sale.
Got a pair during last year sale ... was 350 ^^
@@TrentonHeath just paid 263 for them on sale then another 30% off
@@spankystrat49
Thats like a steel, you buy them even if you dont realy need them.
They came out great! Makes me want to buy a pair in that color.
I absolutely love these videos! Some of the best on leather shoes but do you think one day you could do one reviewing what each shoe product is, the cremes vs. the waxes. Don't have to focus on brands just their purpose. It would really be appreciated as I keep feeling I don't have the right products for my boots
Great video. It was really good to see how you went through all the steps and hear the explanation compared to the other video where you only explained it.
One thing I do (in addition to what Trenton showed) is to take a dollop of "Bick 4" conditioner (about the size of a half-dollar) on my fingers and reach up into the toe and coat the entire interior leather (underside of the toe/vamp, etc.) and the entire footbed. After that soaks in, I insert my cedars. I then take the Bick 4 and apply a bead where the welt meets the upper and allow that to soak in. I also use the Bick 4 on the soles and edges. The outside of the uppers get the same treatment Trenton showed. I've found this to make the break-in VERY easy. The only reason I use the Bick 4, rather than the Saphir on the areas I specified is, it's way more cost effective to use it on those areas not seen/showcased. And, since AE is making me very happy by lining the full inside of my shoe with leather, rather than canvas, I don't want that leather drying and cracking over time. The areas of flex along that welt, I want that leather to remain supple too.
Simply amazing. When you said to bring out a shine I was thinking to myself, The boots are gonna look terrible they shouldn’t be that shiny. Wow did you ever prove me wrong they ended up turning out amazing. Thank you for all of your videos I can sit here and watch them all day long. I absolutely love anything leather even though I don’t own a lot because it’s a little too expensive for me. My dream job would be a leather worker.
Ha! I went to that same store (where Five Guys used to be) and got the same boots in 2015. Time to condition them again. I got cedar trees with them ofc.
Very nice. I bought that exact same boot 2 weeks ago. Took it so my local shoe shine guy to condition and polish them, then to the cobbler for some sole protectors, and now I am good to go.
Martin Tanz Outstanding! Great job, Martin!
Just got me a pair in walnut and I wear them like crazy. Best boots I’ve ever owned.
Craig Hayes I’m glad to know that! I’ve enjoyed them so far. Still trying to break them in a little more.
I’m undecided between walnut and dark chili.
Eye Heart Sushi I love my walnut buddy. My wife wants me to wear them daily.
Craig Hayes Did you get a matching belt?
Craig Hayes Also did you buy your shoe size or did you size up/down?
What?! No tear down? I was oozing with anticipatory excitement to see how well these AEs are constructed. Just kidding....I think they are absolutely stunning. Keep up the excellent presentations.
Vin Mar Haha...thanks! Definitely not on these. I think I’ll enjoy them a while before taking these apart.
"Now, I'm not going for a mirror shine..."
Sir, that's more of a mirror shine than my father's patent leather wholecuts.
Jay Walker 😄
I thought the same thing... pshhh only a little shine haha
Do not get the factory seconds! I have oxblood dalton that I waited for a couple of years to find seconds under $300. Now they regularly go on sale for firsts about that price. With the quality lapses these days at AE, getting the seconds is just asking for trouble. I love the boots, but each was a different color and the tongue in one is completely sideways. The tongue isn't visible when laced and I've worked the colors close to even, but just wish I'd have gone for firsts out the gate.
Great video as always guys!
Erock W Thanks! Great point! 👍🏻 I snagged these for $309.
There are definitely risks you take with the Seconds, but I had a great experience with mine. I just picked up a pair of Daltons as seconds for $160 in dark brown (same color as in the video). They're beautiful. I think the "flaw" is that they're not exactly the same color. My dark brown cream is arriving on Tuesday, so that won't be a problem for me.
iliketoflips, glad to hear you got a great deal without the extra hassle. One of mine was reddish with some more pink areas and the other was more of a brownish red. Between the Hermes red and mahogany saphir creams, was able to lighten one and darken the other to bring them around. Best of luck with yours! And the extra effort sort of made me more attached to these boots in the end.
I would love to see your footwear closet!!!
I use saddle soap to clean my shoes and boots. I also work the polishes into the leather with my fingers, using the saddle soap to clean the wax off my fingers. Another idea to use if time is against you is to apply the Wax and and spray your boots/shoes with water and then use your horsehair brush to achieve a nice shine. This I learned in my military basic training and remember not too glossy (perfection in one area brings out the flaws in the rest of your attire). Great video.
Love the color. The light color of the sole, (as opposed to black), is what really sets this beautiful boot off. Someone in the comments, suggested the color of these boots is oxblood. But I don't think they are. They look like a whiskey brown, with some black wax applied. I wonder what the official color, Allen Edmonds, markets these as? I am sure they are not oxblood. Anyway...beautiful boot. I was considering getting a pair of Dalton's, but in a light tan. Or British Tan, as some call them. But after seeing these...I may reconsider. Brilliant color.
These are the Dark Chili. I have the Carlyle in this color; it's a beautiful shade. Not too red but definitely not just a medium brown.
I also just broke out a new pair of boots - brand name is Geox - they have a patent sole where there are holes which let out air so your foot can breath but not water in and are waterproof. I decided to condition them but looking at the instructions on the product and the website there was a complete contradiction. The website said to maintain the shoes with creams and wax but the info attached to the shoe and in the box warn not to use any cleaning products at all and just wipe with a dry or damp cloth to clean. A little confused - apparently Italian leather - mine are a black pair toe cap derby - so decide to apply a little Saphir Renovateur into the toe caps to begin with. At this point I realised there was already quite a lot of product on the boot as the white towel I used to apply the Renovateur went black 😂 anyway I worked in the Renovateur and buffed and it came up with a great shine. So clearly the product has already been prepared so will wear for a while before treating again. I like the boots but unfortunately they are single use only as the company do not resole and the sole is unique. I never buy this style of shoe or boot (single use) but just thought I would give this brand a try. I suppose I could just resole with a completely different sole...............
My Daltons just arrived. And my girl is like wear them. I sent her this video in response.
You're quite the dermatologist Mr.Trenton, excellent video.
Wow! That's a sharp looking boot. I just purchased a pair and will wear them with jeans and perhaps chinos. I don't believe I will wear them with suits. I prefer the PA and 5th Ave for suits.
Just read on AE website that the Dalton’s are being closed out so supplies are limited and on sale this month for $285 were $475. Great deal - get them while you can.
Great looking boot and video. Just ordered the same pair - what a deal!
dalton are closed？😢
What do you mean closed out? I got a pair during Black Friday for $285. Had to pull the trigger, and now I am so glad I did. Just got the boots, and am in love.
My new black Dalton's came in today and they have been sitting since at least 2017, based on the AE logo. I followed you method to prep them and they are looking great. Thanks for posting this video!
makes me want to pull the trigger on getting my own pr. Always liked the Daltons. Thanks for the video, always great content
Those are beautiful boots. Just my style. I’d love a pair of AEs, next trip to America will have to include a trip to one of their stores.
Would you choose these kind of boots over Thursday boots? If price was not a factor. Can’t decide between the two. Will be wearing them to work
Thanks for the info. Just picked up my first pair of boot, the AE Higgins Mill in brown.
great choice
@@chicagoan6342 Thanks. Love them so far. Not sure what to get next though.
I like them very, I have never see then in stores in Ont. Canada, Love to get a pairs of them.
Wow best video describing step by step and simple 👍🏽 thank you
You convinced me. I ordered the same boot. I'll follow your advise when they arrive.
Wow, those are the most beautiful boots I've ever seen. Great work on the video!
Thanks, David!
Just got my Daltons in Walnut.... delivered in 2 days.... can't wait.
i just ordered me these in oxblood
ddq123 Nice
ddq123 Nice! They’re classics.
Beautiful boots! Nice job enhancing the quality.
Great video. I have a new pair of suede shoes. Prior to wearing I will waterproof them, of course, but before that should I also condition? Thank you!
With suede shoes, you need to be careful. No, definitely don't put a regular conditioner onto your suede or else you'll ruin them. Suede is treated very differently than smooth leathers. If you want to occasionally condition the suede, you can use a spray conditioner such as the Saphir Renovateur Suede & Nubuck spray. It has conditioners in it, as well as a waterproofer. Other than a product such as that, just keep them clean and waterproofed, if you like, and they'll be fine. Suede is a pretty resilient leather.
@@TrentonHeath Thanks. That's the product I was considering.
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Stirling boots that are black with natural leather showing that I could drop off to you if you want to show how to shine and protect those.
I have some of those, on mine I use, Saphir Oiled Leather leather Cuirs Gras, really good for this type of boot and also it won't darken the natural leather , I think this version is much better looking than the newer all black version
Literally just bought these! They’re so comfortable
Good deal! Mine are still in the breaking-in stage, but they look incredible. Glad you like yours.
I have the same boots in the same color. I do like them. A little tight in the vamp area for me but I haven’t worn them enough for a thorough break-in. Great with jeans and chinos.
Nice shine job btw...
@@TrentonHeath ok, we all want to know; did they comp you the boots for free? a lil professional courtesy action lol
Seems yesterday you were a 10,000 subscribers, a couple months later and you are 33,000 plus, congratulations!🎉🎊🍾
What about doing lady’s shoes???
Also, if you do get wax n the broguing you can brush it out with a stippling action right away before it dries. I saw that on another video.
One of my favorite pair of shoes you have there sir... Amazing shine 👌👌👌🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
New Trenton & Heath video:
Me: “Let me hit the like button before watching”.
LegendaryADMG You’re the best! We appreciate it!
That way you don't forget, lol.
@@TrentonHeath After you put the shoe trees in what was the product you used to reconditioned your shoes and what was the name of the neutral shoe cream?
Darryl D Hi! I used Saphir Renovateur shoe conditioner as the first product. The neutral shoe cream was the Saphir Pommadier Cream.
I thought I was good at shining shoes until I watched this video, excellent tips.
Great content. I've never worn dress shoes or even boots because I don't know where to find a nice pair in Philadelphia for a good price. That being said, those look great!
What do u think of Obenauf’s oil? I use the lightest coat on my dress shoes. It’s probably a quarter of the amt you used of Renovateur, bc a little goes a verrrrrry long way. I use a synthetic, not very absorbent paint brush to apply. I don’t think I’ll ever get thru a bottle for reference, but I like how transparent they are about ingredients and how u could use it on human skin.
Thanks for the lesson. That's great info. I wonder how to treat boots in a very wet climate. Do you recommend mink oil and/ or waterproofing sprays?
I have a question. I have 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds that I have only ever used the A.E. cream polishes in since day 1 (about 2 years ago). I’ve never used a dedicated conditioner or wax. I also only wear them for occasional use; not daily or even weekly. They’ve also had shoe trees since day 1.
After watching your channel, I just ordered the 3 step Saphir regimen (Renovateur, cream polish, mirror gloss). My question is: Do I need to strip the AE cream polish off the shoes before beginning again with the Renovateur? Or will the conditioner absorb into the leather through the existing layer of cream polish?
Thank you, and keep up the great videos!
Those boots are gorgeous!
Beautiful pair of AE boots... Gorgeous
How do I do this to my Redwing 875s without darkening them? Thanks, great vid!
I dont want them to shine, just softened up and treated.
Is be curious to know what brand jeans you guys wear since you appreciate quality
Would love to see an update on these boots after a few months wear!
Do you ever use Resolene? I make leather holsters and sheaths and use that to lock the pigments in. Gives a satin finish but can be buffed up. Also seems to harden the leather a bit.
I love Allen Edmonds Daltons. What color do they call this pair?
Am I correct, is Dark Chili the color of this boot? Because if it is, tomorrow (1/10/20) I'm placing my order for these Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. Can't wait! Oh, with red Dainite sole. ZAM! After I tried these on in the store and laced them all the way up, the manager at Allen Edmonds, Madison and 44th, NYC (Todd), advised me that when you are breaking in these boots, for the first few days at least, do not lace them up to the top so they fit around your ankle snugly. He advised to leave the top few lace holes open, and only tie the shoes up to, say, the 4th hole from the top and leave the shoe loose above that. He said this will make it easier to break them in, and gently but strongly warned that if you do not, you could give your ankles sores and cut into the skin a bit, and be miserable. I appreciated the advice and I will be following it... I also directed him to this channel and he was VERY excited. I told him about your visit to the Nashville store, and he knows that big, beautiful guy that manages that location. Todd, if you are out there and reading this, leave a comment!
Does the wax protect the leather in any way. Still studying this want to buy some long lasting leather boots. Now i know how important it is to condition from a video from you guys. Will do it to some of the leather ones i have right now. Love it!
Nice choice, my man. My Shell Cordovan Daltons should be ready for pickup in the Nashville store next month.
Btw thanks for the tips on the broguing. That part absolutely killed me every time I went for a mirror shine on my Walnut Strands. Any tips on minimizing dried up shoe cream buildup along broguing edges?
I don't know if you know, just in case you don't, you don't need to use a lot of creams and polishes on shell cordovan all you really need to do is brush the hell out of it, the more you brush the better it will look although conditioning will be necessary, just thought I'd let that out there just in case
Willi six Yep! One of the big draws of Shell Cordovan I’ve found. Good looking out, man!
Light Treason Very nice!! I was looking at those when I was in there.
It’s harder to keep the cream out. Again, maybe just go a bit easier on the amount you’re putting on around the broguing and start your initial “rub” on a smoother portion of the toe or side and then rub over the brogue areas. As far as cleaning the old creams, saddle or leather soap usually does a good job stripping a lot of the old cream off.
Thanks for the advice and instruction. Can you tell me if this would apply to Shell Cordovan? I've gotten mixed messaging because with Aldens, they apply a wax.
I've been eyeing these in a black shell. Next time they are on sale I'm pulling the trigger 😍
Great video guys and amazing boots. One question, do I need to strip the wax before conditioning and adding cream?
I recently ordered a pair of Beckett Simonon Jodhpur boots in Bordeaux(a wine red/purple similar to Burgundy) and I was wondering in what order should I get the shoe care products. Should I go for renevatuer and a horsehair brush first or a pair of shoe or boot trees? But it is nice to see what should be done to a new pair of leather footwear. This channel is pretty enjoyable to watch and is nicely informative.
Kool Kyurem25 Nice! Those are good looking boots. I would definitely go for the shoe trees first, followed by some good conditioner soon afterwards.
Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I've seen boot trees and then saw you use shoe trees on your boots and it left me wondering if boot trees are a waste since they're more expensive than shoe trees typically and seem to be much harder to get anyways. So it's fine to use normal shoe trees for boots?
Kool Kyurem25 Boot trees are nice, but shoe trees will do the job. 99% of the sweat and creasing is occurring around the foot part of the boot, so that’s where the shoe trees are needed.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I never knew how much much quality work fine cobblers such as yourselves do until recently.
I really like those boots. They are really a nice looking style kudos.
Allen Edmonds makes a nice quality boot
Very informative. Thank you. Good job.
Weird, I just ordered a pair of oxblood Daltons yesterday !
Awesome! That’s a great color too.
What color boots are these? Looks great!
Have you gentlemen ever worked on Allen Edmonds Bayfield boots, and if so, are they any good? They appear to be a discontinued model, however I found a pre-owned pair online that appear to be in decent shape.
What model number are these boots, love your work
Those are really nice looking boots. Great color.
Would you recommend boot trees over shoe trees? What are the extra benefits of a boot tree?
Hey! Love your videos, gentlemen!
I am guilty of getting those waxes into the 'broguing', because I do exactly what you said not to do.
Now, how do I get them out and start over?
Cheers!
Beautiful boots. Love the color. Thanks for sharing the proper way to apply wax onto your rag. Thanks for sharing. What Color are they?
Thank you...and you’re welcome! These are the dark chili.
I'm sure this is a well known technique but I'm unsure how to properly strip off saphir shoe cream. I fear that my experimentation with a patina ended poorly and would like to start over!
Thank you for the advice.
Renomat is great, but the elegant Oxford guy says he just uses a mixture of 1 part acetone and 2-3 parts water. Spritz a rag (not the shoe directly), and be sure to apply a conditioner after you're done stripping whatever you need to remove.
CrispyFrenFry Like both of these gents said, Renomat and acetone are both good at stripping off old buildup. If you don’t have a lot of old cream buildup, saddle soap dies a good job removing cream; however, if it’s really bad, the Renomat or acetone will probably be needed. Just go easy with either, as both can take the patina and factory coloring off if you scrub too hard with them.
@@iliketoflips thanks! I do enjoy the work the elegant oxford does.
@@TrentonHeath thank you for helping me better understand how to clean up my old shoes. Of course, thank you for the amazing content you guys create.
I love/ want those boots on my feet.
I live in London. please let me know where I can get a pair of them. Thankyou.
This is a cool insight into your personal style. I think it would be fun to see a walk-through of your personal shoes to see what you wear! Maybe there are some surprises in there . . . haha
Woodlore Co has a perfect boot tree that would be absolutely perfect for your AE Dalton’s. They reach up like 6” so they would hold the shape of the entire boot. Check them out.
Can it ruin the shape of boots putting a shoe tree in them instead of a boot tree?
No, the boot trees keep the form taut and enable the boot to dry with a form in it. Please check them out, as I haven’t bought them yet for my boots which I just received in the mail after Christmas. I just shoe trees in all of my shoes and they increase the life of the shoe looking beautiful.
Awesome video thanks for sharing. How do I find out if there's an Allen Edman Store Near where I live?
How do you remove the wax in the hole? Just found your channel loving it.
stephen turner wax got into the brogue. Thought there is some way to get it all out at once. But I just clean each brogue one by one. Thanks for the reply.
Are you familiar with Allen Edmonds Ashbury chelsea boots? These are a distressed/rough leather look...how would you go about caring for this type of leather?
I recently bought a pair of Red Wing’s Blacksmith boot in the Copper Rough and Tough color (No. 3343). Would you recommend applying any cream to that leather, or would a regular brushing and shoe trees be just fine?
Quite an improvement, these look great
Wonderful presentation and gorgeous finish. I'm the Instagram follower who mentioned that I had purchased the exact same boot in Dark Chili and had sole protectors applied applied by a local cobbler. How do you feel about sole protectors?
Arthur Kurtz Hi! I think sole protectors are a great idea. They help provide a little traction and definitely prevent having to resole the boot/shoe. Plus, you still get that leather sole feel. I have them on a couple of pairs of my shoes.
Is it okay to condition right over any wax or polish that may be on them from the factory?
Thanks and great job 👍
Definitely. The manufacturers generally don't put much on there, if at all, so you're definitely okay to condition them when you first get them.
Love your videos and the fact that you bought a pair for yourself - do you have an "ideal" pair of sub-$500 boots? I have a few pairs of AE but not sure what the next step up should be or to invest more time and care in the products that I buy.
Great videos. Do you have any experience with Allen Edmond's weatherproof leather shoes? Specifically the Park Aves? I'm wondering if the leather can take the rain better than other oxfords in the space (C&J and Loakes).
I noticed your laces are criss cross instead of barred . Is their any reason for one over the other or is it just the look you prefer? I like the mirror shine on the toe and heal on my Allen Edmonds. I’m old so my collection is about 15 pair of these as I only wear AE shoes and boots. I love my Daltons best have one grey and one chili pair calf skin and one pair of Shell Cordovan in a dark chili (brown). My others are mostly MacNeil in all colors and two of these are Shell Cordovan. Also have two pair of Polo AE calf skin saddle shoes in maroon and black. These are my oldest and have been resoled and healed by a local as AE will no longer do any Recrafting on them. He said his machines use the same holes so these can have new soles and heals as often as I want. He also applies a new layer of cork when redoing them. My old oldest pair of these are cracked on the uppers but I use them for working in the yard and mowing. I still polish them and do apply the renovating cream then the coloring cream then a light coat of wax as you described, Love my AE shoes but it is not the same quality it was in the 1970’s through the 1990’s. Too much corporate America influenced by bottom line production instead of quality and customer service now. I had a pair of MacNeils that were dark brown and bought them in 1976. I sent them in for Recrafting and they called and said they trashed them! They sent me a brand new pair of The new MacNeils with the soft inner sole. I wear a 12C and pay extra for the width adjustment ($100). These new ones are comfortable but not the same. I still wear them but not as often. I rotate through all of them and never wear the same pair twice in a week. They will last forever if taken care of them ! Thank you, Stephen R. - Haslet, TX
Hey Trenton & Heath, great tutorial. Thank you! Do you have a video on how you are supposed to care for Terracotta-style leather boots? (Wax, products, etc?).
Is the conditioner you used called: Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovator? All their names are in french and I don't know which is conditioner what is shoe cream.
What shoe brush are you using and do you recommend? Thanks!
Can I use the Saphir Lotion as the first step?
Is that a defect in the leather or stitch on the toe of the right boot ?
I think I have fallen in love with those shoes
i was a bit confused. so you have the wax, cream and conditioner right? which of this to apply first? correct me if i'm wrong. conditioner -> cream -> wax... is that the correct order?
So I have these dark brown (chocolate) double monks. Can I make them lighter by using the light brown saphir creme or will they just be dark brown forever?
Trenton & Heath will correct me if I'm wrong about this, but you can probably use a little RenoMat to strip out some of the original dye. Condition your shoes to put that moisture back in, then use the light brown saphir cream. It may take several applications, but I'm pretty confident it would work just fine.
talking about shoe trees.....thanks to your videos and other, I always use my shoe trees on my leather shoes......even though they are not highly branded it still seem a good idea and the creases are less visible now.........
but when I visited my formerly trusted cobbler to resole some shoes....he mentioned that those shoe trees are worse for those shoes.......even though the upper was well maintained and just the glued on sole had to be replaced...
So in his opinion shoe trees are not a real solution........hmmmmm I changed my cobbler since then...and found one that seems to be alright...at least for glue jobs!
Love this channel and this boot - just bought it. It seems that the Saphir Mirror Gloss Médaille d'Or is nearly impossible to get now. What do you recommend as an alternative?