Trenton & Heath can yall do a video on how to break in boots quicker? Jusg got a pair of Dayton Parade Brogues and man i have a nice quarter size blister on each foot now 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Leave it to these guys to take a brand new pair of expensive shoes and make them look even better. When they're your boots add some info about laces and lacing. And some video footage on sliding your socked foot into the new shoes which are likely still stiff. Uh, shoehorn? . Thanks for this particular video guys. Every time I watch your videos I'm reminded of how much better care I could/should/will be taking of my shoes and boots. No more wax in the brogue holes.
I bought my first pair of leather boots in 2016 and all the conditioning products I could get my hands on. I honestly enjoyed the polishing routine, it was relaxing. Those boots always had a pretty glossy finish and I often got compliments on how fancy they were (cowboy boots are rarely seen where I'm from). This video inspired me to bring them out again. Thanks for the tips, Trenton! =D
Love the AE Daltons! These are my go-to's (in Walnut). Easily four days a week, seven months a year boot for me, for maybe the last six years. Re-soled twice.
What?! No tear down? I was oozing with anticipatory excitement to see how well these AEs are constructed. Just kidding....I think they are absolutely stunning. Keep up the excellent presentations.
Great video. It was really good to see how you went through all the steps and hear the explanation compared to the other video where you only explained it.
Simply amazing. When you said to bring out a shine I was thinking to myself, The boots are gonna look terrible they shouldn’t be that shiny. Wow did you ever prove me wrong they ended up turning out amazing. Thank you for all of your videos I can sit here and watch them all day long. I absolutely love anything leather even though I don’t own a lot because it’s a little too expensive for me. My dream job would be a leather worker.
Very nice. I bought that exact same boot 2 weeks ago. Took it so my local shoe shine guy to condition and polish them, then to the cobbler for some sole protectors, and now I am good to go.
I'd love to see some saphir cream colour/comparisons/recommendations for different tones of shoes etc. I just put mahogany on my oxblood daltons. They look amazing!
One thing I do (in addition to what Trenton showed) is to take a dollop of "Bick 4" conditioner (about the size of a half-dollar) on my fingers and reach up into the toe and coat the entire interior leather (underside of the toe/vamp, etc.) and the entire footbed. After that soaks in, I insert my cedars. I then take the Bick 4 and apply a bead where the welt meets the upper and allow that to soak in. I also use the Bick 4 on the soles and edges. The outside of the uppers get the same treatment Trenton showed. I've found this to make the break-in VERY easy. The only reason I use the Bick 4, rather than the Saphir on the areas I specified is, it's way more cost effective to use it on those areas not seen/showcased. And, since AE is making me very happy by lining the full inside of my shoe with leather, rather than canvas, I don't want that leather drying and cracking over time. The areas of flex along that welt, I want that leather to remain supple too.
My new black Dalton's came in today and they have been sitting since at least 2017, based on the AE logo. I followed you method to prep them and they are looking great. Thanks for posting this video!
I use saddle soap to clean my shoes and boots. I also work the polishes into the leather with my fingers, using the saddle soap to clean the wax off my fingers. Another idea to use if time is against you is to apply the Wax and and spray your boots/shoes with water and then use your horsehair brush to achieve a nice shine. This I learned in my military basic training and remember not too glossy (perfection in one area brings out the flaws in the rest of your attire). Great video.
I have the same boots in the same color. I do like them. A little tight in the vamp area for me but I haven’t worn them enough for a thorough break-in. Great with jeans and chinos. Nice shine job btw...
Just read on AE website that the Dalton’s are being closed out so supplies are limited and on sale this month for $285 were $475. Great deal - get them while you can. Great looking boot and video. Just ordered the same pair - what a deal!
What do you mean closed out? I got a pair during Black Friday for $285. Had to pull the trigger, and now I am so glad I did. Just got the boots, and am in love.
Ha! I went to that same store (where Five Guys used to be) and got the same boots in 2015. Time to condition them again. I got cedar trees with them ofc.
Do not get the factory seconds! I have oxblood dalton that I waited for a couple of years to find seconds under $300. Now they regularly go on sale for firsts about that price. With the quality lapses these days at AE, getting the seconds is just asking for trouble. I love the boots, but each was a different color and the tongue in one is completely sideways. The tongue isn't visible when laced and I've worked the colors close to even, but just wish I'd have gone for firsts out the gate. Great video as always guys!
There are definitely risks you take with the Seconds, but I had a great experience with mine. I just picked up a pair of Daltons as seconds for $160 in dark brown (same color as in the video). They're beautiful. I think the "flaw" is that they're not exactly the same color. My dark brown cream is arriving on Tuesday, so that won't be a problem for me.
iliketoflips, glad to hear you got a great deal without the extra hassle. One of mine was reddish with some more pink areas and the other was more of a brownish red. Between the Hermes red and mahogany saphir creams, was able to lighten one and darken the other to bring them around. Best of luck with yours! And the extra effort sort of made me more attached to these boots in the end.
@@TrentonHeath After you put the shoe trees in what was the product you used to reconditioned your shoes and what was the name of the neutral shoe cream?
I also just broke out a new pair of boots - brand name is Geox - they have a patent sole where there are holes which let out air so your foot can breath but not water in and are waterproof. I decided to condition them but looking at the instructions on the product and the website there was a complete contradiction. The website said to maintain the shoes with creams and wax but the info attached to the shoe and in the box warn not to use any cleaning products at all and just wipe with a dry or damp cloth to clean. A little confused - apparently Italian leather - mine are a black pair toe cap derby - so decide to apply a little Saphir Renovateur into the toe caps to begin with. At this point I realised there was already quite a lot of product on the boot as the white towel I used to apply the Renovateur went black 😂 anyway I worked in the Renovateur and buffed and it came up with a great shine. So clearly the product has already been prepared so will wear for a while before treating again. I like the boots but unfortunately they are single use only as the company do not resole and the sole is unique. I never buy this style of shoe or boot (single use) but just thought I would give this brand a try. I suppose I could just resole with a completely different sole...............
Love the color. The light color of the sole, (as opposed to black), is what really sets this beautiful boot off. Someone in the comments, suggested the color of these boots is oxblood. But I don't think they are. They look like a whiskey brown, with some black wax applied. I wonder what the official color, Allen Edmonds, markets these as? I am sure they are not oxblood. Anyway...beautiful boot. I was considering getting a pair of Dalton's, but in a light tan. Or British Tan, as some call them. But after seeing these...I may reconsider. Brilliant color.
Wow! That's a sharp looking boot. I just purchased a pair and will wear them with jeans and perhaps chinos. I don't believe I will wear them with suits. I prefer the PA and 5th Ave for suits.
This is a cool insight into your personal style. I think it would be fun to see a walk-through of your personal shoes to see what you wear! Maybe there are some surprises in there . . . haha
Great content. I've never worn dress shoes or even boots because I don't know where to find a nice pair in Philadelphia for a good price. That being said, those look great!
talking about shoe trees.....thanks to your videos and other, I always use my shoe trees on my leather shoes......even though they are not highly branded it still seem a good idea and the creases are less visible now......... but when I visited my formerly trusted cobbler to resole some shoes....he mentioned that those shoe trees are worse for those shoes.......even though the upper was well maintained and just the glued on sole had to be replaced... So in his opinion shoe trees are not a real solution........hmmmmm I changed my cobbler since then...and found one that seems to be alright...at least for glue jobs!
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Stirling boots that are black with natural leather showing that I could drop off to you if you want to show how to shine and protect those.
I have some of those, on mine I use, Saphir Oiled Leather leather Cuirs Gras, really good for this type of boot and also it won't darken the natural leather , I think this version is much better looking than the newer all black version
Nice choice, my man. My Shell Cordovan Daltons should be ready for pickup in the Nashville store next month. Btw thanks for the tips on the broguing. That part absolutely killed me every time I went for a mirror shine on my Walnut Strands. Any tips on minimizing dried up shoe cream buildup along broguing edges?
I don't know if you know, just in case you don't, you don't need to use a lot of creams and polishes on shell cordovan all you really need to do is brush the hell out of it, the more you brush the better it will look although conditioning will be necessary, just thought I'd let that out there just in case
Light Treason Very nice!! I was looking at those when I was in there. It’s harder to keep the cream out. Again, maybe just go a bit easier on the amount you’re putting on around the broguing and start your initial “rub” on a smoother portion of the toe or side and then rub over the brogue areas. As far as cleaning the old creams, saddle or leather soap usually does a good job stripping a lot of the old cream off.
Thanks for the advice and instruction. Can you tell me if this would apply to Shell Cordovan? I've gotten mixed messaging because with Aldens, they apply a wax.
Just getting into you guys channel, and loving it so far. I was excited to find out you guys are in Nashville, which is where I live as well. That's good to know. I'm looking to purchase some moc toes and torn between Red wing, Thorogood and Whites. Just wanted to say hi and keep up the great work!
Woodlore Co has a perfect boot tree that would be absolutely perfect for your AE Dalton’s. They reach up like 6” so they would hold the shape of the entire boot. Check them out.
No, the boot trees keep the form taut and enable the boot to dry with a form in it. Please check them out, as I haven’t bought them yet for my boots which I just received in the mail after Christmas. I just shoe trees in all of my shoes and they increase the life of the shoe looking beautiful.
As a novice shoe and boot enthusiast, I find it overwhelming the amount of products you need to maintain a great collection. I do understand that a lot of these things like waxes and creme’s can last years and years... but it is a little tough on the wallet in the very beginning
You can use those same products to prolong the life of your now empty wallet! The investment in care products costs about as much as 1 pair of shoes but it pays for itself rather quickly as it multiplies the life of quality shoes
You really don't need that much for minimum care. Horse hair brush is basically all you need. Conditioner should be applied every few months. Literally everything else is special use and completely optional.
I just got two pairs from their factor second website. I was able to call the locations that had the outlet and have them look at them before I bought it. They were able to tell me that they were in good shape.
@@thomasbailey4139 they shouldn't be. I got a pair at their store during the sale last year and it was their good quality. I have also got factory seconds and it was clearly communicated that they were seconds.
Hey! Love your videos, gentlemen! I am guilty of getting those waxes into the 'broguing', because I do exactly what you said not to do. Now, how do I get them out and start over? Cheers!
Love this channel and this boot - just bought it. It seems that the Saphir Mirror Gloss Médaille d'Or is nearly impossible to get now. What do you recommend as an alternative?
Does the wax protect the leather in any way. Still studying this want to buy some long lasting leather boots. Now i know how important it is to condition from a video from you guys. Will do it to some of the leather ones i have right now. Love it!
Are you familiar with Allen Edmonds Ashbury chelsea boots? These are a distressed/rough leather look...how would you go about caring for this type of leather?
I recently ordered a pair of Beckett Simonon Jodhpur boots in Bordeaux(a wine red/purple similar to Burgundy) and I was wondering in what order should I get the shoe care products. Should I go for renevatuer and a horsehair brush first or a pair of shoe or boot trees? But it is nice to see what should be done to a new pair of leather footwear. This channel is pretty enjoyable to watch and is nicely informative.
Kool Kyurem25 Nice! Those are good looking boots. I would definitely go for the shoe trees first, followed by some good conditioner soon afterwards. Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I've seen boot trees and then saw you use shoe trees on your boots and it left me wondering if boot trees are a waste since they're more expensive than shoe trees typically and seem to be much harder to get anyways. So it's fine to use normal shoe trees for boots?
Kool Kyurem25 Boot trees are nice, but shoe trees will do the job. 99% of the sweat and creasing is occurring around the foot part of the boot, so that’s where the shoe trees are needed.
I have a question. I have 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds that I have only ever used the A.E. cream polishes in since day 1 (about 2 years ago). I’ve never used a dedicated conditioner or wax. I also only wear them for occasional use; not daily or even weekly. They’ve also had shoe trees since day 1. After watching your channel, I just ordered the 3 step Saphir regimen (Renovateur, cream polish, mirror gloss). My question is: Do I need to strip the AE cream polish off the shoes before beginning again with the Renovateur? Or will the conditioner absorb into the leather through the existing layer of cream polish? Thank you, and keep up the great videos!
I'm sure this is a well known technique but I'm unsure how to properly strip off saphir shoe cream. I fear that my experimentation with a patina ended poorly and would like to start over! Thank you for the advice.
Renomat is great, but the elegant Oxford guy says he just uses a mixture of 1 part acetone and 2-3 parts water. Spritz a rag (not the shoe directly), and be sure to apply a conditioner after you're done stripping whatever you need to remove.
CrispyFrenFry Like both of these gents said, Renomat and acetone are both good at stripping off old buildup. If you don’t have a lot of old cream buildup, saddle soap dies a good job removing cream; however, if it’s really bad, the Renomat or acetone will probably be needed. Just go easy with either, as both can take the patina and factory coloring off if you scrub too hard with them.
Watched reviews, read up on the Allen Edmonds manufacturing methods, sounded great. So I bought a pair of Chukka Boots, great product, great purchasing experience overall, I decided to buy more shoes. Bought a pair of Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. I received 2 different color boots, also one of the boots seemed to be a different vintage or much older and had been on display for some time. Multiple price tickers attached and removed, physical dimensions were different, a different cut of the same style. I called customer service, they apologized and said they would send out another pair, free shipping. Got the next pair, shoes are with out a doubt total rejects! Factory second shoes. I wear a size 9.5, the shoes I received are a size 8 at the most, maybe smaller, but marked as a 9.5 The shoes were also misshapen. The left looks like a right. Without a doubt, the worst I've seen, shameful quality.
Have you gentlemen ever worked on Allen Edmonds Bayfield boots, and if so, are they any good? They appear to be a discontinued model, however I found a pre-owned pair online that appear to be in decent shape.
What do u think of Obenauf’s oil? I use the lightest coat on my dress shoes. It’s probably a quarter of the amt you used of Renovateur, bc a little goes a verrrrrry long way. I use a synthetic, not very absorbent paint brush to apply. I don’t think I’ll ever get thru a bottle for reference, but I like how transparent they are about ingredients and how u could use it on human skin.
Love your videos and the fact that you bought a pair for yourself - do you have an "ideal" pair of sub-$500 boots? I have a few pairs of AE but not sure what the next step up should be or to invest more time and care in the products that I buy.
Wonderful presentation and gorgeous finish. I'm the Instagram follower who mentioned that I had purchased the exact same boot in Dark Chili and had sole protectors applied applied by a local cobbler. How do you feel about sole protectors?
Arthur Kurtz Hi! I think sole protectors are a great idea. They help provide a little traction and definitely prevent having to resole the boot/shoe. Plus, you still get that leather sole feel. I have them on a couple of pairs of my shoes.
Am I correct, is Dark Chili the color of this boot? Because if it is, tomorrow (1/10/20) I'm placing my order for these Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. Can't wait! Oh, with red Dainite sole. ZAM! After I tried these on in the store and laced them all the way up, the manager at Allen Edmonds, Madison and 44th, NYC (Todd), advised me that when you are breaking in these boots, for the first few days at least, do not lace them up to the top so they fit around your ankle snugly. He advised to leave the top few lace holes open, and only tie the shoes up to, say, the 4th hole from the top and leave the shoe loose above that. He said this will make it easier to break them in, and gently but strongly warned that if you do not, you could give your ankles sores and cut into the skin a bit, and be miserable. I appreciated the advice and I will be following it... I also directed him to this channel and he was VERY excited. I told him about your visit to the Nashville store, and he knows that big, beautiful guy that manages that location. Todd, if you are out there and reading this, leave a comment!
J. AULT No, I don’t really think conditioning the sole leather would help. I’ve never conditioned any of mine. Aside from being a different kind of leather (sole leather is much thicker and tanned differently), the constant wearing on the concrete, etc., would just negate that. We used to sell the Saphir Sole Guard which is designed to condition/waterproof the sole, but we’ve received mixed reviews regarding it.
With suede shoes, you need to be careful. No, definitely don't put a regular conditioner onto your suede or else you'll ruin them. Suede is treated very differently than smooth leathers. If you want to occasionally condition the suede, you can use a spray conditioner such as the Saphir Renovateur Suede & Nubuck spray. It has conditioners in it, as well as a waterproofer. Other than a product such as that, just keep them clean and waterproofed, if you like, and they'll be fine. Suede is a pretty resilient leather.
At 4:01, I meant to say “yes, you can apply wax right after the conditioner.” Sorry guys!
Stephen Ryan Thank you!
Trenton & Heath can yall do a video on how to break in boots quicker? Jusg got a pair of Dayton Parade Brogues and man i have a nice quarter size blister on each foot now 😂😂🤦🏻♂️
Forgiven...
Sir, where are you from? I wanna say midwest!
Great video. If you use mirror shine or wax. How would condition later? Would you have to strip it with renovator?
This is the channel I didn't know I needed.
Leave it to these guys to take a brand new pair of expensive shoes and make them look even better. When they're your boots add some info about laces and lacing. And some video footage on sliding your socked foot into the new shoes which are likely still stiff. Uh, shoehorn? . Thanks for this particular video guys. Every time I watch your videos I'm reminded of how much better care I could/should/will be taking of my shoes and boots. No more wax in the brogue holes.
thepowderriverfarrier Great video ideas! . We will definitely be following up on these topics. Thank you, sir!
I bought my first pair of leather boots in 2016 and all the conditioning products I could get my hands on. I honestly enjoyed the polishing routine, it was relaxing. Those boots always had a pretty glossy finish and I often got compliments on how fancy they were (cowboy boots are rarely seen where I'm from). This video inspired me to bring them out again. Thanks for the tips, Trenton! =D
I'd love to see an update on these--how they've worn, patina development, any issues and if they drew you to wear them often!
The difference is night and day with the before and after. They already looked good - you made them look better.
Thank you! I appreciate it.
I recently got a pair of Daltons too! My local cobbler sold me a pair of Daltons $60 and gave me a complimentary JR resole too!
Outstanding! That is one VERY nice shoe cobbler! 👍🏻
Brad Le you son of a gun!
Sir thats a long way of saying you're a bandit lol
Love the AE Daltons! These are my go-to's (in Walnut). Easily four days a week, seven months a year boot for me, for maybe the last six years. Re-soled twice.
What?! No tear down? I was oozing with anticipatory excitement to see how well these AEs are constructed. Just kidding....I think they are absolutely stunning. Keep up the excellent presentations.
Vin Mar Haha...thanks! Definitely not on these. I think I’ll enjoy them a while before taking these apart.
Great video. It was really good to see how you went through all the steps and hear the explanation compared to the other video where you only explained it.
"Now, I'm not going for a mirror shine..."
Sir, that's more of a mirror shine than my father's patent leather wholecuts.
Jay Walker 😄
I thought the same thing... pshhh only a little shine haha
Simply amazing. When you said to bring out a shine I was thinking to myself, The boots are gonna look terrible they shouldn’t be that shiny. Wow did you ever prove me wrong they ended up turning out amazing. Thank you for all of your videos I can sit here and watch them all day long. I absolutely love anything leather even though I don’t own a lot because it’s a little too expensive for me. My dream job would be a leather worker.
Very nice. I bought that exact same boot 2 weeks ago. Took it so my local shoe shine guy to condition and polish them, then to the cobbler for some sole protectors, and now I am good to go.
Martin Tanz Outstanding! Great job, Martin!
Just got me a pair in walnut and I wear them like crazy. Best boots I’ve ever owned.
Craig Hayes I’m glad to know that! I’ve enjoyed them so far. Still trying to break them in a little more.
I’m undecided between walnut and dark chili.
Eye Heart Sushi I love my walnut buddy. My wife wants me to wear them daily.
Craig Hayes Did you get a matching belt?
Craig Hayes Also did you buy your shoe size or did you size up/down?
I'd love to see some saphir cream colour/comparisons/recommendations for different tones of shoes etc. I just put mahogany on my oxblood daltons. They look amazing!
I thought I was good at shining shoes until I watched this video, excellent tips.
makes me want to pull the trigger on getting my own pr. Always liked the Daltons. Thanks for the video, always great content
One thing I do (in addition to what Trenton showed) is to take a dollop of "Bick 4" conditioner (about the size of a half-dollar) on my fingers and reach up into the toe and coat the entire interior leather (underside of the toe/vamp, etc.) and the entire footbed. After that soaks in, I insert my cedars. I then take the Bick 4 and apply a bead where the welt meets the upper and allow that to soak in. I also use the Bick 4 on the soles and edges. The outside of the uppers get the same treatment Trenton showed. I've found this to make the break-in VERY easy. The only reason I use the Bick 4, rather than the Saphir on the areas I specified is, it's way more cost effective to use it on those areas not seen/showcased. And, since AE is making me very happy by lining the full inside of my shoe with leather, rather than canvas, I don't want that leather drying and cracking over time. The areas of flex along that welt, I want that leather to remain supple too.
Those are beautiful boots. Just my style. I’d love a pair of AEs, next trip to America will have to include a trip to one of their stores.
My Daltons just arrived. And my girl is like wear them. I sent her this video in response.
Wow, those are the most beautiful boots I've ever seen. Great work on the video!
Thanks, David!
You're quite the dermatologist Mr.Trenton, excellent video.
My new black Dalton's came in today and they have been sitting since at least 2017, based on the AE logo. I followed you method to prep them and they are looking great. Thanks for posting this video!
I use saddle soap to clean my shoes and boots. I also work the polishes into the leather with my fingers, using the saddle soap to clean the wax off my fingers. Another idea to use if time is against you is to apply the Wax and and spray your boots/shoes with water and then use your horsehair brush to achieve a nice shine. This I learned in my military basic training and remember not too glossy (perfection in one area brings out the flaws in the rest of your attire). Great video.
I would love to see your footwear closet!!!
Literally just bought these! They’re so comfortable
Good deal! Mine are still in the breaking-in stage, but they look incredible. Glad you like yours.
I have the same boots in the same color. I do like them. A little tight in the vamp area for me but I haven’t worn them enough for a thorough break-in. Great with jeans and chinos.
Nice shine job btw...
@@TrentonHeath ok, we all want to know; did they comp you the boots for free? a lil professional courtesy action lol
Just got my Daltons in Walnut.... delivered in 2 days.... can't wait.
Beautiful boots! Nice job enhancing the quality.
Just read on AE website that the Dalton’s are being closed out so supplies are limited and on sale this month for $285 were $475. Great deal - get them while you can.
Great looking boot and video. Just ordered the same pair - what a deal!
dalton are closed？😢
What do you mean closed out? I got a pair during Black Friday for $285. Had to pull the trigger, and now I am so glad I did. Just got the boots, and am in love.
I am a new subscriber from the Elegant Oxford channel. Great collaboration, now I have two awesome shoe channels!
Thanks so much, Sebastian! We're happy to have you aboard!
Thanks for the info. Just picked up my first pair of boot, the AE Higgins Mill in brown.
great choice
@@chicagoan6342 Thanks. Love them so far. Not sure what to get next though.
Wow best video describing step by step and simple 👍🏽 thank you
Ha! I went to that same store (where Five Guys used to be) and got the same boots in 2015. Time to condition them again. I got cedar trees with them ofc.
i just ordered me these in oxblood
ddq123 Nice
ddq123 Nice! They’re classics.
Do not get the factory seconds! I have oxblood dalton that I waited for a couple of years to find seconds under $300. Now they regularly go on sale for firsts about that price. With the quality lapses these days at AE, getting the seconds is just asking for trouble. I love the boots, but each was a different color and the tongue in one is completely sideways. The tongue isn't visible when laced and I've worked the colors close to even, but just wish I'd have gone for firsts out the gate.
Great video as always guys!
Erock W Thanks! Great point! 👍🏻 I snagged these for $309.
There are definitely risks you take with the Seconds, but I had a great experience with mine. I just picked up a pair of Daltons as seconds for $160 in dark brown (same color as in the video). They're beautiful. I think the "flaw" is that they're not exactly the same color. My dark brown cream is arriving on Tuesday, so that won't be a problem for me.
iliketoflips, glad to hear you got a great deal without the extra hassle. One of mine was reddish with some more pink areas and the other was more of a brownish red. Between the Hermes red and mahogany saphir creams, was able to lighten one and darken the other to bring them around. Best of luck with yours! And the extra effort sort of made me more attached to these boots in the end.
You convinced me. I ordered the same boot. I'll follow your advise when they arrive.
Seems yesterday you were a 10,000 subscribers, a couple months later and you are 33,000 plus, congratulations!🎉🎊🍾
What about doing lady’s shoes???
New Trenton & Heath video:
Me: “Let me hit the like button before watching”.
LegendaryADMG You’re the best! We appreciate it!
That way you don't forget, lol.
@@TrentonHeath After you put the shoe trees in what was the product you used to reconditioned your shoes and what was the name of the neutral shoe cream?
Darryl D Hi! I used Saphir Renovateur shoe conditioner as the first product. The neutral shoe cream was the Saphir Pommadier Cream.
I also just broke out a new pair of boots - brand name is Geox - they have a patent sole where there are holes which let out air so your foot can breath but not water in and are waterproof. I decided to condition them but looking at the instructions on the product and the website there was a complete contradiction. The website said to maintain the shoes with creams and wax but the info attached to the shoe and in the box warn not to use any cleaning products at all and just wipe with a dry or damp cloth to clean. A little confused - apparently Italian leather - mine are a black pair toe cap derby - so decide to apply a little Saphir Renovateur into the toe caps to begin with. At this point I realised there was already quite a lot of product on the boot as the white towel I used to apply the Renovateur went black 😂 anyway I worked in the Renovateur and buffed and it came up with a great shine. So clearly the product has already been prepared so will wear for a while before treating again. I like the boots but unfortunately they are single use only as the company do not resole and the sole is unique. I never buy this style of shoe or boot (single use) but just thought I would give this brand a try. I suppose I could just resole with a completely different sole...............
Love the color. The light color of the sole, (as opposed to black), is what really sets this beautiful boot off. Someone in the comments, suggested the color of these boots is oxblood. But I don't think they are. They look like a whiskey brown, with some black wax applied. I wonder what the official color, Allen Edmonds, markets these as? I am sure they are not oxblood. Anyway...beautiful boot. I was considering getting a pair of Dalton's, but in a light tan. Or British Tan, as some call them. But after seeing these...I may reconsider. Brilliant color.
These are the Dark Chili. I have the Carlyle in this color; it's a beautiful shade. Not too red but definitely not just a medium brown.
To the brother cobblers with AMAZING hair! Great video! 🔥🔥💯😎
Wow! That's a sharp looking boot. I just purchased a pair and will wear them with jeans and perhaps chinos. I don't believe I will wear them with suits. I prefer the PA and 5th Ave for suits.
This is a cool insight into your personal style. I think it would be fun to see a walk-through of your personal shoes to see what you wear! Maybe there are some surprises in there . . . haha
Those boots are gorgeous!
Beautiful pair of AE boots... Gorgeous
Very informative. Thank you. Good job.
I also polish them before, same reasons 😀
Quite an improvement, these look great
Great content. I've never worn dress shoes or even boots because I don't know where to find a nice pair in Philadelphia for a good price. That being said, those look great!
Damn I didn't know that much love would make them look that much better
talking about shoe trees.....thanks to your videos and other, I always use my shoe trees on my leather shoes......even though they are not highly branded it still seem a good idea and the creases are less visible now.........
but when I visited my formerly trusted cobbler to resole some shoes....he mentioned that those shoe trees are worse for those shoes.......even though the upper was well maintained and just the glued on sole had to be replaced...
So in his opinion shoe trees are not a real solution........hmmmmm I changed my cobbler since then...and found one that seems to be alright...at least for glue jobs!
Those are really nice looking boots. Great color.
Great demo 👌👍
I have a pair of Allen Edmonds Stirling boots that are black with natural leather showing that I could drop off to you if you want to show how to shine and protect those.
I have some of those, on mine I use, Saphir Oiled Leather leather Cuirs Gras, really good for this type of boot and also it won't darken the natural leather , I think this version is much better looking than the newer all black version
Nice choice, my man. My Shell Cordovan Daltons should be ready for pickup in the Nashville store next month.
Btw thanks for the tips on the broguing. That part absolutely killed me every time I went for a mirror shine on my Walnut Strands. Any tips on minimizing dried up shoe cream buildup along broguing edges?
I don't know if you know, just in case you don't, you don't need to use a lot of creams and polishes on shell cordovan all you really need to do is brush the hell out of it, the more you brush the better it will look although conditioning will be necessary, just thought I'd let that out there just in case
Willi six Yep! One of the big draws of Shell Cordovan I’ve found. Good looking out, man!
Light Treason Very nice!! I was looking at those when I was in there.
It’s harder to keep the cream out. Again, maybe just go a bit easier on the amount you’re putting on around the broguing and start your initial “rub” on a smoother portion of the toe or side and then rub over the brogue areas. As far as cleaning the old creams, saddle or leather soap usually does a good job stripping a lot of the old cream off.
Thanks for the advice and instruction. Can you tell me if this would apply to Shell Cordovan? I've gotten mixed messaging because with Aldens, they apply a wax.
I've been eyeing these in a black shell. Next time they are on sale I'm pulling the trigger 😍
Beautiful pair of boots...! Gorgeous
Awesome video!!!
They look great.
Would love to see an update on these boots after a few months wear!
Great job, amazing. Bravo 🔝👏👍
Enzo N. Thank you!
Just getting into you guys channel, and loving it so far. I was excited to find out you guys are in Nashville, which is where I live as well. That's good to know. I'm looking to purchase some moc toes and torn between Red wing, Thorogood and Whites. Just wanted to say hi and keep up the great work!
Awesome pair of boots
Awesome pair, I'm jealous!
They really are some great boots...
Thanks! Yeah, I had been eyeing them for a while and snagged them during their sale.
Woodlore Co has a perfect boot tree that would be absolutely perfect for your AE Dalton’s. They reach up like 6” so they would hold the shape of the entire boot. Check them out.
Can it ruin the shape of boots putting a shoe tree in them instead of a boot tree?
No, the boot trees keep the form taut and enable the boot to dry with a form in it. Please check them out, as I haven’t bought them yet for my boots which I just received in the mail after Christmas. I just shoe trees in all of my shoes and they increase the life of the shoe looking beautiful.
As a novice shoe and boot enthusiast, I find it overwhelming the amount of products you need to maintain a great collection. I do understand that a lot of these things like waxes and creme’s can last years and years... but it is a little tough on the wallet in the very beginning
You can use those same products to prolong the life of your now empty wallet! The investment in care products costs about as much as 1 pair of shoes but it pays for itself rather quickly as it multiplies the life of quality shoes
You really don't need that much for minimum care. Horse hair brush is basically all you need. Conditioner should be applied every few months. Literally everything else is special use and completely optional.
Beautiful boots. Love the color. Thanks for sharing the proper way to apply wax onto your rag. Thanks for sharing. What Color are they?
Thank you...and you’re welcome! These are the dark chili.
Weird, I just ordered a pair of oxblood Daltons yesterday !
Awesome! That’s a great color too.
Great looking boots
Thank you!
Thanks for the lesson. That's great info. I wonder how to treat boots in a very wet climate. Do you recommend mink oil and/ or waterproofing sprays?
Very interesting, thankyou.
Thank! Glad you enjoyed!
I might get a pair of factory seconds before the sale ends on the 23rd.
Eye Heart Sushi 👍🏻
If it’s on sale does that make it a second? I bought a couple pairs last year from AE and the quality sucked but they weren’t advertised as seconds
I just got two pairs from their factor second website. I was able to call the locations that had the outlet and have them look at them before I bought it. They were able to tell me that they were in good shape.
@@thomasbailey4139 they shouldn't be. I got a pair at their store during the sale last year and it was their good quality. I have also got factory seconds and it was clearly communicated that they were seconds.
Hey! Love your videos, gentlemen!
I am guilty of getting those waxes into the 'broguing', because I do exactly what you said not to do.
Now, how do I get them out and start over?
Cheers!
Would you choose these kind of boots over Thursday boots? If price was not a factor. Can’t decide between the two. Will be wearing them to work
Love this channel and this boot - just bought it. It seems that the Saphir Mirror Gloss Médaille d'Or is nearly impossible to get now. What do you recommend as an alternative?
Great video guys and amazing boots. One question, do I need to strip the wax before conditioning and adding cream?
Lovely boots.
Is that a defect in the leather or stitch on the toe of the right boot ?
Does the wax protect the leather in any way. Still studying this want to buy some long lasting leather boots. Now i know how important it is to condition from a video from you guys. Will do it to some of the leather ones i have right now. Love it!
Are you familiar with Allen Edmonds Ashbury chelsea boots? These are a distressed/rough leather look...how would you go about caring for this type of leather?
I recently ordered a pair of Beckett Simonon Jodhpur boots in Bordeaux(a wine red/purple similar to Burgundy) and I was wondering in what order should I get the shoe care products. Should I go for renevatuer and a horsehair brush first or a pair of shoe or boot trees? But it is nice to see what should be done to a new pair of leather footwear. This channel is pretty enjoyable to watch and is nicely informative.
Kool Kyurem25 Nice! Those are good looking boots. I would definitely go for the shoe trees first, followed by some good conditioner soon afterwards.
Thanks! We appreciate you watching.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I've seen boot trees and then saw you use shoe trees on your boots and it left me wondering if boot trees are a waste since they're more expensive than shoe trees typically and seem to be much harder to get anyways. So it's fine to use normal shoe trees for boots?
Kool Kyurem25 Boot trees are nice, but shoe trees will do the job. 99% of the sweat and creasing is occurring around the foot part of the boot, so that’s where the shoe trees are needed.
@@TrentonHeath Thank you for the advice. I never knew how much much quality work fine cobblers such as yourselves do until recently.
I have a question. I have 3 pairs of Allen Edmonds that I have only ever used the A.E. cream polishes in since day 1 (about 2 years ago). I’ve never used a dedicated conditioner or wax. I also only wear them for occasional use; not daily or even weekly. They’ve also had shoe trees since day 1.
After watching your channel, I just ordered the 3 step Saphir regimen (Renovateur, cream polish, mirror gloss). My question is: Do I need to strip the AE cream polish off the shoes before beginning again with the Renovateur? Or will the conditioner absorb into the leather through the existing layer of cream polish?
Thank you, and keep up the great videos!
Super nice boots. I like them a lot. (Maybe one day I'll get a pair.)
Thank you! I appreciate it.
I'm sure this is a well known technique but I'm unsure how to properly strip off saphir shoe cream. I fear that my experimentation with a patina ended poorly and would like to start over!
Thank you for the advice.
Renomat is great, but the elegant Oxford guy says he just uses a mixture of 1 part acetone and 2-3 parts water. Spritz a rag (not the shoe directly), and be sure to apply a conditioner after you're done stripping whatever you need to remove.
CrispyFrenFry Like both of these gents said, Renomat and acetone are both good at stripping off old buildup. If you don’t have a lot of old cream buildup, saddle soap dies a good job removing cream; however, if it’s really bad, the Renomat or acetone will probably be needed. Just go easy with either, as both can take the patina and factory coloring off if you scrub too hard with them.
@@iliketoflips thanks! I do enjoy the work the elegant oxford does.
@@TrentonHeath thank you for helping me better understand how to clean up my old shoes. Of course, thank you for the amazing content you guys create.
Is be curious to know what brand jeans you guys wear since you appreciate quality
Watched reviews, read up on the Allen Edmonds manufacturing methods, sounded great. So I bought a pair of Chukka Boots, great product, great purchasing experience overall, I decided to buy more shoes. Bought a pair of Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. I received 2 different color boots, also one of the boots seemed to be a different vintage or much older and had been on display for some time. Multiple price tickers attached and removed, physical dimensions were different, a different cut of the same style. I called customer service, they apologized and said they would send out another pair, free shipping. Got the next pair, shoes are with out a doubt total rejects! Factory second shoes. I wear a size 9.5, the shoes I received are a size 8 at the most, maybe smaller, but marked as a 9.5 The shoes were also misshapen. The left looks like a right. Without a doubt, the worst I've seen, shameful quality.
Have you gentlemen ever worked on Allen Edmonds Bayfield boots, and if so, are they any good? They appear to be a discontinued model, however I found a pre-owned pair online that appear to be in decent shape.
What do u think of Obenauf’s oil? I use the lightest coat on my dress shoes. It’s probably a quarter of the amt you used of Renovateur, bc a little goes a verrrrrry long way. I use a synthetic, not very absorbent paint brush to apply. I don’t think I’ll ever get thru a bottle for reference, but I like how transparent they are about ingredients and how u could use it on human skin.
I agree with the conditioning and waxing new shoes but you should be using boot trees not shoe trees...easier to use and better for the boot.
If I put too much of the dark brown crème in the patina process what’s the best way to remove it?
Love your videos and the fact that you bought a pair for yourself - do you have an "ideal" pair of sub-$500 boots? I have a few pairs of AE but not sure what the next step up should be or to invest more time and care in the products that I buy.
I love/ want those boots on my feet.
I live in London. please let me know where I can get a pair of them. Thankyou.
Wonderful presentation and gorgeous finish. I'm the Instagram follower who mentioned that I had purchased the exact same boot in Dark Chili and had sole protectors applied applied by a local cobbler. How do you feel about sole protectors?
Arthur Kurtz Hi! I think sole protectors are a great idea. They help provide a little traction and definitely prevent having to resole the boot/shoe. Plus, you still get that leather sole feel. I have them on a couple of pairs of my shoes.
Am I correct, is Dark Chili the color of this boot? Because if it is, tomorrow (1/10/20) I'm placing my order for these Dalton Wingtip Dress Boots. Can't wait! Oh, with red Dainite sole. ZAM! After I tried these on in the store and laced them all the way up, the manager at Allen Edmonds, Madison and 44th, NYC (Todd), advised me that when you are breaking in these boots, for the first few days at least, do not lace them up to the top so they fit around your ankle snugly. He advised to leave the top few lace holes open, and only tie the shoes up to, say, the 4th hole from the top and leave the shoe loose above that. He said this will make it easier to break them in, and gently but strongly warned that if you do not, you could give your ankles sores and cut into the skin a bit, and be miserable. I appreciated the advice and I will be following it... I also directed him to this channel and he was VERY excited. I told him about your visit to the Nashville store, and he knows that big, beautiful guy that manages that location. Todd, if you are out there and reading this, leave a comment!
I just ordered 4 pairs of shoe trees and less than 24 hours ago I thought a Shoe Tree was an Arboral genus that throws shade in summer.
Would you recommend boot trees over shoe trees? What are the extra benefits of a boot tree?
Those look so good, I'd be almost embarrassed to wear them.
Those are some nice looking boots shoes .,
I notice that the bottom sole that's leather doesn't get conditioner. Would it help, or no?
J. AULT No, I don’t really think conditioning the sole leather would help. I’ve never conditioned any of mine. Aside from being a different kind of leather (sole leather is much thicker and tanned differently), the constant wearing on the concrete, etc., would just negate that. We used to sell the Saphir Sole Guard which is designed to condition/waterproof the sole, but we’ve received mixed reviews regarding it.
@@TrentonHeath , thank you for the insight and response.
Best regards.
Great video. I have a new pair of suede shoes. Prior to wearing I will waterproof them, of course, but before that should I also condition? Thank you!
With suede shoes, you need to be careful. No, definitely don't put a regular conditioner onto your suede or else you'll ruin them. Suede is treated very differently than smooth leathers. If you want to occasionally condition the suede, you can use a spray conditioner such as the Saphir Renovateur Suede & Nubuck spray. It has conditioners in it, as well as a waterproofer. Other than a product such as that, just keep them clean and waterproofed, if you like, and they'll be fine. Suede is a pretty resilient leather.
@@TrentonHeath Thanks. That's the product I was considering.
Dark Chili color?