A beautiful piece, especially the intro and spiritual ending. Amazing for a first attempt at a new musical form: the Symphonic poem. Liszt was indeed brilliant.
Idea subyacente al poema sinfónico, sintetizada por Liszt en un borrador en prosa impreso con el poema en la partitura: "El poeta percibe dos voces: una inmensurable, fastuosa y ordenada, que brama ante el Señor su jubiloso canto de alcanza - la otra sorda, inflamada por sonidos dolorosos, de llanto, blasfemia y maldición. La una dice 'Naturaleza', la otra 'Humanidad'. Ambas voces forcejean entre sí, se entrecruzan y fusionan hasta que finalmente se disuelven y extinguen en una contemplación sagrada." Cita extraída de "La música del siglo XIX" de Dahlhaus
Nice performance from Masur and the Gewandhaus. It's interesting to compare this composition with Franck's earlier take on the same Hugo poem. Both are beautiful, though in notably different ways.
The orchestral technique of Liszt is quite wonderful. He was a virtuoso pianist, not a conductor. So; one can wonder how he got such a technique; reding the treatise of Berlioz is not enough.
And, anyway, composition is a different kind of study than conduction or playing. Obvoiusly a condactor and/or a pianist have a great advantage while studying composition, but they have to study a lot.
it is highly possible, that Joachim Raff, who was Liszts secretary in weimar had his hands in the orchestration process... and raff was one of the best orchestrators of his time, combining the achievements of berlioz and wagner with a sometimes mendelsohnian elegance ... ;-)
@@FooVines Raff worked for Liszt as a secretary and had no creative input in Liszt orchestration process. Liszt was a superb orchestrator and actually took Raff to task when he suggested to friends he would be orchestrating Liszt's music. Raff was hired by Liszt because he had neat handwriting and was told by a rather irate Liszt - that there is no creative input from you in this process - I hired you because of your neat handwriting - no other skill is required from you.
A sadly neglected work. It would go down well at concerts, and I’ve no idea why it’s rarely performed!? You can certainly here how this music influenced later romantic composers; tschaikovsky, saint saens and Bruckner can be detected here.
Great interpretation but regarding the piece itself, Liszt didn't evoke Hugo's poem as well as Cesar Franck. He spoke French fluently so one cannot blame it on a possible misunderstanding of the text, and yet he was inspired enough to compose this piece. Very strange. On the other hand, Franck's musical ideas to depict the voice of the ocean and the voice of humanity are much more convincing and captivating I think.
This was the first of Liszt's series of symphonic poems, so he was venturing into uncharted territory, especially structurally. I'm sure the comparison with Franck's piece is fascinating. Whatever the shortcomings of Liszt's attempt, I've always been fond of this work, which never makes it to a high position in the view of critics. With a right conductor, it's a wonderful piece, not a moment too long (pace the critics); my favorite performance is the one by Carl Schuricht. Of course Liszt made several wonderful settings of Hugo poems for voice and piano, and evoked the spirit of Lamartine sublimely in his great HARMONIES POETIQUES ET RELIGIEUSES cycle. And I believe French was his preferred language for letter writing.
A beautiful piece, especially the intro and spiritual ending. Amazing for a first attempt at a new musical form: the Symphonic poem. Liszt was indeed brilliant.
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The bass going down an octatonic scale. He was amongst the very firsts to use it on purpose
Liszt’s program music is a huge music achievement.
Lizst. A bottomless well of musical ideas.
Idea subyacente al poema sinfónico, sintetizada por Liszt en un borrador en prosa impreso con el poema en la partitura: "El poeta percibe dos voces: una inmensurable, fastuosa y ordenada, que brama ante el Señor su jubiloso canto de alcanza - la otra sorda, inflamada por sonidos dolorosos, de llanto, blasfemia y maldición. La una dice 'Naturaleza', la otra 'Humanidad'. Ambas voces forcejean entre sí, se entrecruzan y fusionan hasta que finalmente se disuelven y extinguen en una contemplación sagrada."
Cita extraída de "La música del siglo XIX" de Dahlhaus
What is heard on the mountain...
Nice performance from Masur and the Gewandhaus. It's interesting to compare this composition with Franck's earlier take on the same Hugo poem. Both are beautiful, though in notably different ways.
The orchestral technique of Liszt is quite wonderful. He was a virtuoso pianist, not a conductor. So; one can wonder how he got such a technique; reding the treatise of Berlioz is not enough.
he was a conductor... in Weimar from 1848 - 1861
And, anyway, composition is a different kind of study than conduction or playing. Obvoiusly a condactor and/or a pianist have a great advantage while studying composition, but they have to study a lot.
it is highly possible, that Joachim Raff, who was Liszts secretary in weimar had his hands in the orchestration process... and raff was one of the best orchestrators of his time, combining the achievements of berlioz and wagner with a sometimes mendelsohnian elegance ... ;-)
@@FooVines Raff worked for Liszt as a secretary and had no creative input in Liszt orchestration process. Liszt was a superb orchestrator and actually took Raff to task when he suggested to friends he would be orchestrating Liszt's music. Raff was hired by Liszt because he had neat handwriting and was told by a rather irate Liszt - that there is no creative input from you in this process - I hired you because of your neat handwriting - no other skill is required from you.
@@leonbaird8028 wow! Ok, that exeeded my knowledge. Thanks for the input :)
A sadly neglected work. It would go down well at concerts, and I’ve no idea why it’s rarely performed!?
You can certainly here how this music influenced later romantic composers; tschaikovsky, saint saens and Bruckner can be detected here.
13:00 (run from the pursuit of wild animals in the mountains)
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Epic🔥
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klasse sache!
Great interpretation but regarding the piece itself, Liszt didn't evoke Hugo's poem as well as Cesar Franck. He spoke French fluently so one cannot blame it on a possible misunderstanding of the text, and yet he was inspired enough to compose this piece. Very strange. On the other hand, Franck's musical ideas to depict the voice of the ocean and the voice of humanity are much more convincing and captivating I think.
This was the first of Liszt's series of symphonic poems, so he was venturing into uncharted territory, especially structurally. I'm sure the comparison with Franck's piece is fascinating. Whatever the shortcomings of Liszt's attempt, I've always been fond of this work, which never makes it to a high position in the view of critics. With a right conductor, it's a wonderful piece, not a moment too long (pace the critics); my favorite performance is the one by Carl Schuricht. Of course Liszt made several wonderful settings of Hugo poems for voice and piano, and evoked the spirit of Lamartine sublimely in his great HARMONIES POETIQUES ET RELIGIEUSES cycle. And I believe French was his preferred language for letter writing.
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