I'll argue that he only has demigod tier luck. Or however you want to name "the place under #1". The one that is truly shown to be at the very top is Joker. Evidence: Collector attack... who survives? Worst ME2 ending with Shepard falling... Just who is it that survives? How did a man built out of peanut brittle survive from the Battle of Eden Prime all the way to the Battle of Earth? If you can survive the mission that took Shepard and *THAT* squad out (even at their worst, they are still one potent wave of destruction)... that is way way way beyond the luck anyone else is ever shown to even possibly have. And if rpgs and anime of taught me anything, luck > everything else. (Joker might not be a squadmate, but he is undoubtedly one of Shepard's companions. The only one who was with him from the very beginning, all the way to the end. Not even Garrus can claim that.)
Eh, not really. He's not very useful in 1 if you don't recruit him, and I don't remember him being great in 2's gameplay (though he is in lore/story) and idr him in 3 at all. He's definitely not Batman level. Green Arrow at best.
Kaidan definitely isn't my favourite, but he deserves more credit. Despite no formal training, he can Reave, which even an extremely proficient biotic like Samara considers to be very impressive. He's also got good tech knowledge, being able to talk shop with Tali about the pros and cons of specific omni tools if you bring him on the Geth Dreadnought mission in ME3. He's also Shepard's 1st officer before anyone else once Shepard is inducted into the Spectres and gains control of the Normandy SR1. He's got the experience working with the best to accumulate tactical knowledge, and because of that experience, he eventually has his own biotics squad that he sees kind of like students.
I think prehaps I wasn't clear in the video, he will do well, but it's just he can't compete against the top. He is great against rank and file, or the less tough. It's just hard for a human to win out, lore wise.
Tali's role in combat is sitting in cover. making her tech magic on everything she can reach and spamming drones (shooting with shotgun to every enemy's face who dared to approach her too closely). This make her valuable support and absolutely viable as for me.
Wrex likely has more hours in combat than most other companions have being alive. He has immense physical strength, insane battle IQ, and even biotics. The dude has it all. Have you taken him into the Armax Arena? The guy is insane, charging in with his shotgun, shrugging off damage, and ripping the enemy to pieces. Krogan are able to survive in almost any environment, that's why they were used to fight the Rachni, so the battle royal conditions would make no difference. The only thing he cant withstand are cutscene bullets.
Samara wrex or jack are good contenders and javik due to his long combat experience and biotics. Samara javik and wrex have the most combat experience facing many different opponents and survived. Seeing as this is a free for all and not a team versus team these characters have the best chances of surviving as they are accustomed to fighting by themselves.
@@DanticsNot really. Have to remember that there was also a lot of infighting due to indoctrination. He even had to defeat his own team with nothing but a knife and was considered to be one of the best soldiers they had. He has much more experience than just fighting mindless drones.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I've seen a similar video a while ago, that was a power ranking of the squad mates. I expect the results to be quite the same, with Wrex being first, Samara being second and Javik probably being third.
Unfortunately, you were way off with the Javik one. He is a Prothean commander comparable to Shepard. He is highly intelligent, just not a scientist. He also fought much more powerful reapers far longer than any of the current cycle. What solid proof do you have he can only beat Jacob? That was just pure nonsense.
My list in ascending order: - Tali: Damaging the suit is incredible dangerous to her, and her hacking only affects Legion and MAYBE EDI, and everyone on the squad experienced way worse than her drones. - Kasumi: Could be a wildcard, but if she picks the wrong target she is cooked. Also, Javik can straight up see through her invisibility. - Legion: Everybody on this list has faced worse than Geth, and Legions platform is nothing special. - EDI: A bit more unpredictable than Legion, but again, everyone here has faced worse. - Mordin: He tells you that his biggest advantage is everybody underestimating him. On this team, nobody will underestimate him, and while Mordin is ruthless, so is everybody else. - Ashley/James: They are both fine soldiers and thats it. - Grunt: Strong, but everyone from here on out has biotics, can take down Krogan with minimum effort, or both. - Jacob: The weakest biotic on this list. - Thane: Only so low on the list because of his sickness. He should be able to take out any squadmate, no problem, but he wont make it to the end. - Kaidan: Probably the most wellrounded character on the field. No weakness, but also no strength to deal with the higher ranked characters. - Miranda: Upgrade to Kaidan, with weaker combat power and better biotics. - Garrus: "If he had preptime he would win". Still annoying to deal with. - Liara: Got carried here by the raw power of asari biotics. - Jack: Stupid amounts of biotic power, and Jack is FAST. She won't cook up any clever plans, she will just overrun anyone in her way. That said, if she tries that against Wrex or a bunkered down Garrus she is toast. - Samara: About the same level of biotic power as Jack, but with more experience, more brains, more armor and more firepower. If she wasn't restrained by the code she could probably take 1st place. - Wrex: Sheer overwhelming combat and biotic power, and he actually has a brain. The main reason I think he won't win is that EVERYBODY will try to take him out as soon as possible - Javik: Samara, but without the Code and without any qualms, and the hardest combatant to ambush thanks to 4 eyes. Could easily be the winner. - Zaeed: This kind of situation is where Zaeed thrives. It will not be pretty, but Zaeeds sheer determination and experience makes me put him as the winner.
Ironically I think the DLCs in two are the best power scaling with Zeead being on top since he's a schizophrenic war veteran and Kusumi being the lowest having the barley any experienced fighting in combat being a Masters Thief.
Every companion of the original trilogy against one another, with just their natural abilities? Wrex. And its not even going to be close. Natural Krogan regeneration, biotics and barriers, a 1000 or so years of battle experience. He singlehandedly took down a Thresher Maw on foot, he fought an (elite?) Asari commando on an alien ship while also under fire from random raiders and came out on top. Skillset is (in)famous enough that the Shadowbroker hired him specifically. Through raw power he united the Krogan clans. And he has the instincts to know when he has to leave a situation. The only contender might be Javik, but I cant rank him 1 simply because we dont know enough about him or his people. We know he was a commander of the Protheans, but this was during a time when the Protheans were already past losing the war. So was he one of their best, or one of the best they had left? fml I never thought I'd see the day but.. Jacob isnt the weakest squadmate in lore. By Alliance standards Jacob was still a skilled enough soldier that they didnt want to lose him when he resigned. The Illusive Man trusted him to be in charge of security during the Lazarus Project, by far the most precious and costly program Cerberus ever undertook. That counts for something. I hate to say it, but lorewise Jacob would be able to handle Tali in a fight, and Kasumi as well.
I was wondering if you could do this kind of video on the Borderlands vault hunters. I think it would be interesting to see which one or even which team of vault hunters could stand at the apex of the chaotic world that is Pandora.
@ I would argue that there is enough lore and feats to make it interesting. Pretty much every vault hunter has been in multiple games, there have been some crazy feats like Lilith teleporting all of sanctuary in the second game, and you can use high level footage to play up how powerful vault hunters are. I totally get it if it’s not something you’d think would make a good video, but I think it could be interesting. Maybe another series has potential to be this type of video.
My honest pick, if they were given enough prep time, can be answered in song: I am the very model of a scientist Salarian I've studied species Turian Asari and Batarian I'm quite good at genetics as a subset of biology Because I am an expert which I know is a tautology
So this is a great concept but i feel it needs tweaking to be more interesting, in order to assess the skills I personally would do a matrix of 1 on 1 style battles to see who does win in a 1 on 1 style fight to help calculate it, then I would also include the following metrics fight or flight chance, then long term strategy planning (for those who need it, i agree jacob loses almost every match hands down and whats worse he wont run which will come into play in a moment) So how I would break it down to be the most fair is a hunger games style tournament, each team mate is allowed 24 hours prior to try and make alliances (so long as they make sense for instance jack will not help miranda but miranda might consider alliances with someone like jacob) at the game begin, the team mates can rush the cornucopia for supplies or rush away (this gives advantage to those who may not be as durable but are smart, its also easy to predict who runs in and who doesnt, Jacob for instance would absolutely hero charge the center to be completely wrecked however someone like mordin is not likely to consider it) this can be the initial wave and will end with only one or two team members alive (if you run the numbers on who runs or dips and dives combat for kills there are only a few) second stage is where there long term goals come in, some will bunker in, some will pick specific targets etc and some will just wait till the last few final round would be basically who is left long term here and where they go I dunno its a little more work but would be interesting to see
For me I’m very Javik biased, for what we heard of his life that he was willing to tell, he’d been fighting his whole life, and I’m not sure how old he is (he could age the same as humans or be as old as a couple hundred years and still be in his prime for all we know)
He's probably at least a couple centuries old considering he talked about how the war lasted that long, and he was one of the last remaining, as well as him being on the run from his indoctrinated crew for multiple years. But, even if he was only like a hundred years old, he had literally no down time, every other crew member had at least a little at some point in their life, Javik is a warrior through and through and has no qualms doing whatever it takes to win.
If you want to get down to the nitty gritty, Ashley has no rank before becoming a LtCdr (or whatever it was) in 3. The Alliance marines are explicitly stated to be a bit old timey when it comes to these matters. Therefore originally being enlisted, Ashley would have a rating not a rank. Rank is ONLY for officers. You could describe her as a 'senior noncom' (non-commissioned officer). For context a junior noncom is a corporal.
Asari with strong biotics should basically behave like saiyans in a fight. With true ardat yakshi being like the legendary super saiyan. I also just realized while I was thinking about, when Wrex said "quint" he was referring to testicles.
The most powerfull after Shepard are Wrex, Samara and Thane (prime), with Miranda being a wildcard. The winner would be determint through the size and quality of "the Arena".
Garrus, especially Garrus is a Typhoon and maxed out turian rebel spec'd for dammage and armor pierccing maxed out for damage. This is litearlly God tier Garrus that can literally solo missions by himself pretty much in ME3 on insanity. No one is close. Wrex ME2 Thane Miranda Grunt Zaeed Who ever else.
Now I am interested in seeing some team matches. You got some obvious team ups and I see some forming up into bigger groups to take out the bigger threats. Garrus and Tali for obvious reasons Wrex & Grunt since they are the same clan and maybe Mordin for curing the Genophage and wanting to get done ASAP. Legion and Edi being the only synthetics of the group would likely pair up. Liara and Samara due to being Asari and maybe Zaeed since he seems to have a soft spot for Samara. Ashley, Kaiden, and James Vega since they are in the Alliance Miranda and Jacob due to their history, and Kasumi cause she likes Jacob for some reason Thane, Jack, and Javik because they would rather go solo and only team up as to not be picked off. Am I missing anyone?
If we took gameplay into account, there's a reason I used Kasumi for EVERY single mission I could in my Insanity playthrough. Her just TELEPORTING behind enemies and saying "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" is just insane. Sure, I don't think she ragdolls people with armor or Shields up? I don't quite remember. I feel like she was useful against 1 of the 3 shield types? (Barrier, maybe?) Idk but whatever lol. She also has Overload and canonically is like THE best hacker, so in theory if there's ANYTHING she could use, turrets, mechs, etc. or even just hacking anyone else's omni-tool, comms, (actual/tech) Shields, whatever... she has a VERY good chance. Plus she DOES immediately ragdoll ANYONE without 1 of the 3 Shields... so personal bias is definitely getting in the way a bit here... I don't think she WINS necessarily... but she's probably like one of the last 4-5 people alive? Maybe even last 2-3. Then gets killed by Wrex or someone. Whoever would actually win. (A big part of why she'd survive so long is simply stealth)
Ofc Wrex would be the most consistent winner, followed by samara. But it would be interesting to see this put into numbers. If ME Hunger Games was played about 200 times (10 for each crew member +10 more rounds). Id expect Garrus, Thane, Wrex and Samara to have the highest wins
Kaiden had some of the most brutal early human biotic training out there. Is career military. Even ends up training some biotic special forces. He also has a pretty level head and the ability to keep a level head in do or die situations. His demonstrated commitment to his own ideals, from his story about training all they way up to potentially standing against Shepard in ME3, sets him above almost everyone else in that regard. I think you are deliberately underrepresenting his skills, abilities and mentality. Not only is his combat skilset well rounded, but it is also backed up with years of dedicated military training and all the experience that comes with it. Yeah, in terms of the narrative and whatnot he isn't a standout. Its an aspect of how they had to design him as a starting character. But once beyond that. btw, he also outranks Shepard by 3. A major does outrank a commander after all. Granted we can write this off as "commander shepard" sounding far cooler than "major Shepard" (whom you would start to suspect is a descendent of a long dead major named Tom).
Great comment. Every single person on the squad is elite in some way or another. Not sure how that sets him higher than, say, 1000 years of combat experience. I respect the thought here, but I think you may be over representing him. I mention he would be able to take on soldiers of similar stature because of his abilities - but I don't pretend like he could take on the likes of Wrex, Thane, Samara, or Garrus. Who have been shown to (or said to be able to) take down Spectre level enemies. BTW, he technically outranks Shepard, but Shepard is a Spectre. The title 'commander' becomes more of a nickname than an actual rank, as he sits outside of their jurisdiction.
@@Dantics I didn't mean that Kaiden had a real chance of taking out say, Wrex. My point was that I think it would be a lot lot lot harder to take out Kaiden than at least half of the squad. Lorewise he is somewhere around Zaeed, who while not a biotic, has a crazy amount of experience and has survived getting shot in the head. The only human squadmate that I think he would have real trouble taking out would be Kasumi. He would have no trouble with a couplefew of the non-humans (e.g. Tali & Mordin), but the rest might give him some issues. Against Miranda I give him 7 wins out of 10 and against Zaeed I give him even odds. I also give him 6 out of 10 against Javik. People just tend to brush Kaiden off too quickly imo. On the note about Spectres and chain of command (i.e. rank). Spectres have no rank/rating/whatever whatsoever. There might be a concept of seniority, but there is no concept of chain of command within the Spectres themselves. There are the Specters and each one answers directly to the counsel. You only need rank when you don't have such a clear cut situation. The relationship between the Alliance and Counsel is akin to that of NATO and a member-nation (i.e. the relationship between a supranational organization and a national organization within it). NATO forces might have troops containing US soldiers under the command of an officer from another country. But that doesn't for one second mean that officer can just give orders to every American soldier with a lower rank.
@@Dantics One other thing about rank. I meant that he outranks Shepard within the Systems Alliance itself. Not that this alone proves anything, but it is worth considering. I should add, by 2 full ranks. Shepard is a LtCdr at the start of ME1 and I don't recall there ever being a promotion. Yes becomes the captain of the Normandy, but that is a position, not a rank. The Alliance has no rank of "commander". They have Lieutenant Commander and Staff Commander (so says the codex). In practice both would commonly be called "commander". A major in the Alliance is one rank above staff commander and the eqivilent of captain in the navy. Normandy, even as special as she is, is only a frigate, so an XO with that rank makes sense. (Side note: given dialogue with the Quarians in ME2, the tradition of calling any commanding officer "captain" aboard their vessel, might not be much of a thing within the Alliance. When they call him captain, he specifies that he never reached that rank. Though how he would become a captain and not a major is never explained, they might literally be the same thing and just a preference or related to if you still hit the dirt or not, but like I said, it is never explained properly)
@whyjnot420 would be interesting if it was like One Piece. Where the higher rank you are, the stronger. But yeah look these are all basically super soldiers (besides Tali and a few others). It's not an easy thing to judge. Appreciate your explanation of ranks!
In my opinion; the only real answer are the biotics, with the viability going Wrex, Samara, Jack, and Liara in that order. Wrex has both lore and gameplay in his factor of being incredibly powerful and impossible to kill. Samara has a lot of lore in her favor being a biotic justicar, but her actual gameplay is not that impressive. Jack is an absolute monster in lore and pretty good in power, and is supposed to be the most powerful human biotic period. Liara is an underdog. She has combat training from Asari Commandos, and she gains a ruthlessness and independence over the series goes. Also, Liara has the fastest recharging and largest AoE biotics of all possible squadmates. Lore wise, she also has a high level of technological capability. She also has an incredible level of precision and intelligence, as exhibited by waging a one Asari war on the greatest information broker in the galaxy.
Was excited for this video but I think you may be under estimating Thane a bit. (And he's not even a favorite for me) I think he'd be a slow paced methodical killer eliminating people in optimal or advantageous situations. Unlikely to lose, however; mine is just a RUclips opinion. Love the content!
I didn't under-estimate him, I put him at the top. Look at the way he eliminates targets, though. Uses his fists, very low power but precise biotics, and precise low power guns. All of these don't work well against powerful barriers, or Krogen Biology. Thane can get the jump on wrex but he can't get through his protections before Wrex can one shot Thane. I don't doubt his skill, but this is a Mountain VS Red Viper situation.
It's also worth remembering that he's also very ill middle aged man. I absolutely adore him, and he's def top 3 in this hypothetical fight, but not the winner. Not when Wrex is on the field.
@@Dantics Honestly can say I wasn't expecting a reply, let alone one like this. That's all fair, maybe I'm a bit biased on my end but I do agree for the most part, Samara, Thane and Wrex would be the top three.
First as a diehard Tali Fan: No need for sorry, you are right. Tali lack way to much Experience for such a Situation and would die as one of the first in such a Hungergame like Fight. Second! I think Wrex would win because his Childhood on Tuchanka alone is already a Hungergame on its own and something tell me in his around 1000 Years that he got at least in such Situation of sick fighting in which a Crew turn at each other. Maybe a Garrus could win if he go full on Archangel Mode. But this is hard, way more easy its to say which People would get in a "Final". In my Eyes this are: Garrus, Wrex, Zaeed, Mordin(with a little luck), Samara(there is the Chance i think before she do such a Thing that she start killing her own Crew Buddys that she could kill herself because of the strict Code) Thane(Same situation like Samara) and finally and the biggest shaky candidates are Legion and Javik. Third i would say this Cloakingfield of the different Members: Threw out Sand or such Things and if somebody step on it you could see the Footsteps. If he/she try climbing to you... the Minds i write in 2. are clever enough to make this impossible.
You're right, childhood on Tuchanka is basically the hunger games. Sadly even if Tali was more skilled, I think against so many skilled opponents, you're bound to get a scrape or cut, and then it's an infection and possibly death.
An ai presidents channel named Prime Radiance did this in character as the squad, it was a fun vid. Did a poll beforehand too to determine the results of the 5 deadliest squadmates to beat Shepard (in his opinion) and it was Garrus and Thane topping A tier, with Javik, Samara, and Wrex taking top 3, Wrex winning.
From the beginning I'm thinking Wrex and Samara as the final showdown. The gap in combat experience between them and the others is just way too massive. I'm curious where this goes though.
I would add Javik to that list, we don't know for sure how old he is, he could be only 100 or 500, but unlike literally everyone else on the list, he has literally only ever known a life of war, even Samara and Wrex have had down time in their life before and after they became the beasts they are now. I don't know that he'd win or anything, but I feel like Wrex, Samara, and Javik being top 3 makes sense.
If it was a tournament made of a series of 1v1s, I think Wrex is the easy favorite. He's crazy good with lesser AI in the first game. If it was a mass free for all, it would be whoever hides/ranges/escapes/survies the best. I'm not sure who that is, but people like Kasumi or a sniper with a good hiding place. Wrex would always be in the middle of hte action and take too many hits.
Yea i think as much as i love some characters, there's only one who kinda runs away with it lets all say it together JACOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But seriously Wrex makes sense, Think Tali is too squishy, Garas is probably my next pick, I mean he took out a hind or something like he was taking out a regular soldier, He clearly can handle multiple targets at a time, He fought the blood pack leader who he said regenerated faster than any krogen he's ever seen, Well he's seen wrex, So yea think he could probably survive, But its hard to really decide when you add biotecks, Shepard kills them all though, Even if they all came at him with 100 Jacobs lol.
Something that kept bothering me throughout the video is how you said Wrex and Samara are almost a century old when a century is only 100 years, I feel like the word you were looking for is millennium which means 1000 years. This along with a plethora of other minor mistakes makes the video incredibly annoying to watch.
In lore, shields work like they do if you were playing on Insanity Difficulty. So people going down after a few shots in cutscenes makes sense. It's only game and story separation if you're not playing on the highest difficulty.
Shields work in cutscenes the way the story demands they work. They are inconsistent as hell. Two examples from ME1 from the same mission: Ashley downs Wrex with a single pistol shot from the back. Even if his shields for.. some reason werent up, he has his suit of armor, a ton of regeneration, and several vital organs, and a hump behind his head that she couldnt have shot through. Later that same mission, Shepard fires three perfect shots at Saren, who stands there unimpressed by the shots fired. ME2 had the same thing. ME3 as well. Cutscenes shouldnt be taken seriously when it comes down to shields because it makes less sense than the value of the credits.
In books it's explained that at a certain level of close distance the shield can't stop the round. Bring down the sky was an inconsistency that can be interpreted as luck or just not possible and should be the shot missed.
@ well the books contradict the ingame lore if thats the case. In the game, the shields are held up due to miniature-mass effect fields to damage any sort of high velocity projectile (and explains why lasers are often an insta-kill). Constant energy is required to keep up the shields, and someone on reddit theorised that when taking damage, you're actually drained of the energy to keep up said shield. Regardless, the books are not correct if they state that mechanic. And I wouldnt be surprised, considering the books arent entirely accurate in a few cases, with the last book related to the OG trilogy being an epic clusterfuck so bad Bioware had an apology written in reprints.
It was always going to be Wrex. 😁 I actually put Thane in 2 and Garrus in 3, but I can certainly see the argument for Samara. Also, can we just say Tali was just knocked out and put a few extra rounds in Jacob instead, to make up for it? 🥺
If it isn't clear, if Shepard was in this fight, he/she would win every time. The commander has god tier skill and luck.
I'll argue that he only has demigod tier luck. Or however you want to name "the place under #1". The one that is truly shown to be at the very top is Joker. Evidence: Collector attack... who survives? Worst ME2 ending with Shepard falling... Just who is it that survives? How did a man built out of peanut brittle survive from the Battle of Eden Prime all the way to the Battle of Earth?
If you can survive the mission that took Shepard and *THAT* squad out (even at their worst, they are still one potent wave of destruction)... that is way way way beyond the luck anyone else is ever shown to even possibly have. And if rpgs and anime of taught me anything, luck > everything else.
(Joker might not be a squadmate, but he is undoubtedly one of Shepard's companions. The only one who was with him from the very beginning, all the way to the end. Not even Garrus can claim that.)
Well, thankfully our boy Joker isn't fighting in this one. More evidenced luck.
@@whyjnot420also Normandy cannons are the biggest guns among the crew.
Well... Garrus is basically the Batman of Mass Effect, so give him a bit time to CALIBRATE and you know who wins.
And with the N7 Typhoon
If we set him up as God Garrus, there is no stopping him.
Eh, not really. He's not very useful in 1 if you don't recruit him, and I don't remember him being great in 2's gameplay (though he is in lore/story) and idr him in 3 at all. He's definitely not Batman level. Green Arrow at best.
As AI Presidents said on PrimeRadiance Channel,
"Zaeed would pick Refusal ending and somehow still survive in the end"
it shoulda been Kaiden...
@@randomname8587Kaden would choose paragon just a copy of Shepherd.
Refusal isn't an automatic loss, it just means the war continues, and we assume the reapers win over a long period of time but we don't know for sure.
It's a funny line, but sadly not true in this case.
@@RebelnuttKayden?
"james is killed in action" he said right before playing a clip showing jimmy face tanking and soloing an atlas
Bahaha hey, I did a pretty good job fitting the video to audio for a nearly hour long video. Not everything will fit 1 to 1.
It was funnier seeing Shepard 2 shot some random trooper with a gun equivalent to a water pistol😂
Missed a 0 on samara and wrex's ages, they're both close to 1000 years
Yeah, Wrex is either close to, or already over 1000 years old.
Yes, slip of the tongue. Lots of dialog to record :)
@ to be fair with his smoldering good looks Wrex doesn't look a day over a 100
Doesn't he mention it after the citadel party? @@michelvanderlinden8363
My bet's on Wrex. There's a reason he leads Clan Urdnot, and he took down a Thresher Maw in the Rite on foot, by himself
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Ok now we just need the mass effect characters to react to this 😂
This would be PEAK! Yeah!
Garrus and Wrex would be God tier reactions. Liara and Javik too
Congratulations on the Wedding Dantics :)
Aw thanks mate. Appreciate it
I'm Krogan bias but its Wrex 100% in a battle royal or in a gauntlet situation Wrex catches the W and only Samommy slows him down.
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Kaidan definitely isn't my favourite, but he deserves more credit. Despite no formal training, he can Reave, which even an extremely proficient biotic like Samara considers to be very impressive. He's also got good tech knowledge, being able to talk shop with Tali about the pros and cons of specific omni tools if you bring him on the Geth Dreadnought mission in ME3.
He's also Shepard's 1st officer before anyone else once Shepard is inducted into the Spectres and gains control of the Normandy SR1. He's got the experience working with the best to accumulate tactical knowledge, and because of that experience, he eventually has his own biotics squad that he sees kind of like students.
I think prehaps I wasn't clear in the video, he will do well, but it's just he can't compete against the top. He is great against rank and file, or the less tough. It's just hard for a human to win out, lore wise.
Start of the video: Tali doesn't have the bulk to survive a long time. One hit and she is done.
My money is on Jacob, like how a cockroach survives the nuclear apocalypse.
Tali's role in combat is sitting in cover. making her tech magic on everything she can reach and spamming drones (shooting with shotgun to every enemy's face who dared to approach her too closely). This make her valuable support and absolutely viable as for me.
She's a fantastic support. Alone, not so sure.
Wrex likely has more hours in combat than most other companions have being alive. He has immense physical strength, insane battle IQ, and even biotics. The dude has it all. Have you taken him into the Armax Arena? The guy is insane, charging in with his shotgun, shrugging off damage, and ripping the enemy to pieces. Krogan are able to survive in almost any environment, that's why they were used to fight the Rachni, so the battle royal conditions would make no difference. The only thing he cant withstand are cutscene bullets.
That's fine, Tali is better suited for Shepards Romance anyway
Samara wrex or jack are good contenders and javik due to his long combat experience and biotics.
Samara javik and wrex have the most combat experience facing many different opponents and survived.
Seeing as this is a free for all and not a team versus team these characters have the best chances of surviving as they are accustomed to fighting by themselves.
Javik only has experience against the reapers, and a lot of them are more or less drones. But yes, I agree
@@DanticsNot really. Have to remember that there was also a lot of infighting due to indoctrination. He even had to defeat his own team with nothing but a knife and was considered to be one of the best soldiers they had. He has much more experience than just fighting mindless drones.
I have to agree, Wrex is a powerhouse in ME3, hands down. A true wrecking ball!
Until he shows up at the docks.
If there is a pipe in the arena - Jacob would be cooked instantly.
100% agree, Big Daddy Wrex for the win.
Too badass
Here's my prediction before watching the whole video, as requested:
I don't know who would win, but I am pretty sure it's not Jacob or Kaidan.
I haven't watched the video yet, but I've seen a similar video a while ago, that was a power ranking of the squad mates. I expect the results to be quite the same, with Wrex being first, Samara being second and Javik probably being third.
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite Dantics on RUclips.
Unfortunately, you were way off with the Javik one. He is a Prothean commander comparable to Shepard. He is highly intelligent, just not a scientist. He also fought much more powerful reapers far longer than any of the current cycle. What solid proof do you have he can only beat Jacob? That was just pure nonsense.
Just realised Jacob is a vanguard. Never bothered to take him with me except the 1st and his loyalty missions.
He's such a poor Vanguard, he doesn't have biotic charge!
One would be forgiven not noticing considering how weak he is.
Regardless of who wins, they all won my (Shepard's) heart.
I'm guessing either Wrex or Samara. Depending on the scenario, Garrus would have a shot too.
:)
My list in ascending order:
- Tali: Damaging the suit is incredible dangerous to her, and her hacking only affects Legion and MAYBE EDI, and everyone on the squad experienced way worse than her drones.
- Kasumi: Could be a wildcard, but if she picks the wrong target she is cooked. Also, Javik can straight up see through her invisibility.
- Legion: Everybody on this list has faced worse than Geth, and Legions platform is nothing special.
- EDI: A bit more unpredictable than Legion, but again, everyone here has faced worse.
- Mordin: He tells you that his biggest advantage is everybody underestimating him. On this team, nobody will underestimate him, and while Mordin is ruthless, so is everybody else.
- Ashley/James: They are both fine soldiers and thats it.
- Grunt: Strong, but everyone from here on out has biotics, can take down Krogan with minimum effort, or both.
- Jacob: The weakest biotic on this list.
- Thane: Only so low on the list because of his sickness. He should be able to take out any squadmate, no problem, but he wont make it to the end.
- Kaidan: Probably the most wellrounded character on the field. No weakness, but also no strength to deal with the higher ranked characters.
- Miranda: Upgrade to Kaidan, with weaker combat power and better biotics.
- Garrus: "If he had preptime he would win". Still annoying to deal with.
- Liara: Got carried here by the raw power of asari biotics.
- Jack: Stupid amounts of biotic power, and Jack is FAST. She won't cook up any clever plans, she will just overrun anyone in her way. That said, if she tries that against Wrex or a bunkered down Garrus she is toast.
- Samara: About the same level of biotic power as Jack, but with more experience, more brains, more armor and more firepower. If she wasn't restrained by the code she could probably take 1st place.
- Wrex: Sheer overwhelming combat and biotic power, and he actually has a brain. The main reason I think he won't win is that EVERYBODY will try to take him out as soon as possible
- Javik: Samara, but without the Code and without any qualms, and the hardest combatant to ambush thanks to 4 eyes. Could easily be the winner.
- Zaeed: This kind of situation is where Zaeed thrives. It will not be pretty, but Zaeeds sheer determination and experience makes me put him as the winner.
Ironically I think the DLCs in two are the best power scaling with Zeead being on top since he's a schizophrenic war veteran and Kusumi being the lowest having the barley any experienced fighting in combat being a Masters Thief.
Werx wins. Reason Big Krogran.
Big Win!
Every companion of the original trilogy against one another, with just their natural abilities? Wrex. And its not even going to be close. Natural Krogan regeneration, biotics and barriers, a 1000 or so years of battle experience. He singlehandedly took down a Thresher Maw on foot, he fought an (elite?) Asari commando on an alien ship while also under fire from random raiders and came out on top. Skillset is (in)famous enough that the Shadowbroker hired him specifically. Through raw power he united the Krogan clans. And he has the instincts to know when he has to leave a situation.
The only contender might be Javik, but I cant rank him 1 simply because we dont know enough about him or his people. We know he was a commander of the Protheans, but this was during a time when the Protheans were already past losing the war. So was he one of their best, or one of the best they had left?
fml I never thought I'd see the day but.. Jacob isnt the weakest squadmate in lore. By Alliance standards Jacob was still a skilled enough soldier that they didnt want to lose him when he resigned. The Illusive Man trusted him to be in charge of security during the Lazarus Project, by far the most precious and costly program Cerberus ever undertook. That counts for something. I hate to say it, but lorewise Jacob would be able to handle Tali in a fight, and Kasumi as well.
Sadly yes, Jacob beats Tali and possibly Kasumi. But shhhhhh.
I was wondering if you could do this kind of video on the Borderlands vault hunters. I think it would be interesting to see which one or even which team of vault hunters could stand at the apex of the chaotic world that is Pandora.
They just don't give enough lore on all but a handful to make it interesting, sadly.
@ I would argue that there is enough lore and feats to make it interesting. Pretty much every vault hunter has been in multiple games, there have been some crazy feats like Lilith teleporting all of sanctuary in the second game, and you can use high level footage to play up how powerful vault hunters are. I totally get it if it’s not something you’d think would make a good video, but I think it could be interesting. Maybe another series has potential to be this type of video.
My honest pick, if they were given enough prep time, can be answered in song:
I am the very model of a scientist Salarian
I've studied species Turian Asari and Batarian
I'm quite good at genetics as a subset of biology
Because I am an expert which I know is a tautology
Prep time, Mordin wins.
So this is a great concept but i feel it needs tweaking to be more interesting,
in order to assess the skills I personally would do a matrix of 1 on 1 style battles to see who does win in a 1 on 1 style fight to help calculate it, then I would also include the following metrics fight or flight chance, then long term strategy planning (for those who need it, i agree jacob loses almost every match hands down and whats worse he wont run which will come into play in a moment)
So how I would break it down to be the most fair is a hunger games style tournament, each team mate is allowed 24 hours prior to try and make alliances (so long as they make sense for instance jack will not help miranda but miranda might consider alliances with someone like jacob)
at the game begin, the team mates can rush the cornucopia for supplies or rush away (this gives advantage to those who may not be as durable but are smart, its also easy to predict who runs in and who doesnt, Jacob for instance would absolutely hero charge the center to be completely wrecked however someone like mordin is not likely to consider it) this can be the initial wave and will end with only one or two team members alive (if you run the numbers on who runs or dips and dives combat for kills there are only a few)
second stage is where there long term goals come in, some will bunker in, some will pick specific targets etc and some will just wait till the last few
final round would be basically who is left long term here and where they go
I dunno its a little more work but would be interesting to see
For me I’m very Javik biased, for what we heard of his life that he was willing to tell, he’d been fighting his whole life, and I’m not sure how old he is (he could age the same as humans or be as old as a couple hundred years and still be in his prime for all we know)
He's probably at least a couple centuries old considering he talked about how the war lasted that long, and he was one of the last remaining, as well as him being on the run from his indoctrinated crew for multiple years. But, even if he was only like a hundred years old, he had literally no down time, every other crew member had at least a little at some point in their life, Javik is a warrior through and through and has no qualms doing whatever it takes to win.
If you want to get down to the nitty gritty, Ashley has no rank before becoming a LtCdr (or whatever it was) in 3.
The Alliance marines are explicitly stated to be a bit old timey when it comes to these matters. Therefore originally being enlisted, Ashley would have a rating not a rank. Rank is ONLY for officers. You could describe her as a 'senior noncom' (non-commissioned officer). For context a junior noncom is a corporal.
She'd make one fine noncom.
Asari with strong biotics should basically behave like saiyans in a fight. With true ardat yakshi being like the legendary super saiyan.
I also just realized while I was thinking about, when Wrex said "quint" he was referring to testicles.
either wrex or samara is my choice leaning more towards samara
:)
The most powerfull after Shepard are Wrex, Samara and Thane (prime), with Miranda being a wildcard. The winner would be determint through the size and quality of "the Arena".
I'm gonna say Thane wins because of he's an assassin with biotics. Deadly ass combo
He's right up there!
Garrus, especially Garrus is a Typhoon and maxed out turian rebel spec'd for dammage and armor pierccing maxed out for damage. This is litearlly God tier Garrus that can literally solo missions by himself pretty much in ME3 on insanity. No one is close.
Wrex
ME2 Thane
Miranda
Grunt
Zaeed
Who ever else.
Now I am interested in seeing some team matches. You got some obvious team ups and I see some forming up into bigger groups to take out the bigger threats.
Garrus and Tali for obvious reasons
Wrex & Grunt since they are the same clan and maybe Mordin for curing the Genophage and wanting to get done ASAP.
Legion and Edi being the only synthetics of the group would likely pair up.
Liara and Samara due to being Asari and maybe Zaeed since he seems to have a soft spot for Samara.
Ashley, Kaiden, and James Vega since they are in the Alliance
Miranda and Jacob due to their history, and Kasumi cause she likes Jacob for some reason
Thane, Jack, and Javik because they would rather go solo and only team up as to not be picked off.
Am I missing anyone?
I don't even care about logik, ma boy Wrex would win regardless. Good choice.
He eats logic for breakfast!
Now we need something like which ME2 Squadmate would have the highest bounty like the Shadow Broker said?
Good question, Liara if its the moments before Shadow brokers lair would be up there.
If we took gameplay into account, there's a reason I used Kasumi for EVERY single mission I could in my Insanity playthrough. Her just TELEPORTING behind enemies and saying "Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru" is just insane. Sure, I don't think she ragdolls people with armor or Shields up? I don't quite remember. I feel like she was useful against 1 of the 3 shield types? (Barrier, maybe?) Idk but whatever lol. She also has Overload and canonically is like THE best hacker, so in theory if there's ANYTHING she could use, turrets, mechs, etc. or even just hacking anyone else's omni-tool, comms, (actual/tech) Shields, whatever... she has a VERY good chance. Plus she DOES immediately ragdoll ANYONE without 1 of the 3 Shields... so personal bias is definitely getting in the way a bit here... I don't think she WINS necessarily... but she's probably like one of the last 4-5 people alive? Maybe even last 2-3. Then gets killed by Wrex or someone. Whoever would actually win. (A big part of why she'd survive so long is simply stealth)
So, if you didn't already know Dantics hates Jacob, he lays it out in this vid. LMAO. I couldn't make any guesses so I'm just here for the vid.
After watching the vid, I can't disagree with the way the logic was laid out.
Ofc Wrex would be the most consistent winner, followed by samara. But it would be interesting to see this put into numbers. If ME Hunger Games was played about 200 times (10 for each crew member +10 more rounds). Id expect Garrus, Thane, Wrex and Samara to have the highest wins
You're absolutely right about those four being the most consistently strong! 💪
Garrus. My Reason: he hot with a sniper~
Kaiden had some of the most brutal early human biotic training out there. Is career military. Even ends up training some biotic special forces. He also has a pretty level head and the ability to keep a level head in do or die situations. His demonstrated commitment to his own ideals, from his story about training all they way up to potentially standing against Shepard in ME3, sets him above almost everyone else in that regard.
I think you are deliberately underrepresenting his skills, abilities and mentality. Not only is his combat skilset well rounded, but it is also backed up with years of dedicated military training and all the experience that comes with it.
Yeah, in terms of the narrative and whatnot he isn't a standout. Its an aspect of how they had to design him as a starting character. But once beyond that.
btw, he also outranks Shepard by 3. A major does outrank a commander after all. Granted we can write this off as "commander shepard" sounding far cooler than "major Shepard" (whom you would start to suspect is a descendent of a long dead major named Tom).
Great comment. Every single person on the squad is elite in some way or another. Not sure how that sets him higher than, say, 1000 years of combat experience. I respect the thought here, but I think you may be over representing him. I mention he would be able to take on soldiers of similar stature because of his abilities - but I don't pretend like he could take on the likes of Wrex, Thane, Samara, or Garrus. Who have been shown to (or said to be able to) take down Spectre level enemies.
BTW, he technically outranks Shepard, but Shepard is a Spectre. The title 'commander' becomes more of a nickname than an actual rank, as he sits outside of their jurisdiction.
@@Dantics I didn't mean that Kaiden had a real chance of taking out say, Wrex. My point was that I think it would be a lot lot lot harder to take out Kaiden than at least half of the squad. Lorewise he is somewhere around Zaeed, who while not a biotic, has a crazy amount of experience and has survived getting shot in the head.
The only human squadmate that I think he would have real trouble taking out would be Kasumi. He would have no trouble with a couplefew of the non-humans (e.g. Tali & Mordin), but the rest might give him some issues. Against Miranda I give him 7 wins out of 10 and against Zaeed I give him even odds. I also give him 6 out of 10 against Javik.
People just tend to brush Kaiden off too quickly imo.
On the note about Spectres and chain of command (i.e. rank). Spectres have no rank/rating/whatever whatsoever. There might be a concept of seniority, but there is no concept of chain of command within the Spectres themselves. There are the Specters and each one answers directly to the counsel. You only need rank when you don't have such a clear cut situation.
The relationship between the Alliance and Counsel is akin to that of NATO and a member-nation (i.e. the relationship between a supranational organization and a national organization within it). NATO forces might have troops containing US soldiers under the command of an officer from another country. But that doesn't for one second mean that officer can just give orders to every American soldier with a lower rank.
@@Dantics One other thing about rank. I meant that he outranks Shepard within the Systems Alliance itself. Not that this alone proves anything, but it is worth considering.
I should add, by 2 full ranks. Shepard is a LtCdr at the start of ME1 and I don't recall there ever being a promotion. Yes becomes the captain of the Normandy, but that is a position, not a rank. The Alliance has no rank of "commander". They have Lieutenant Commander and Staff Commander (so says the codex). In practice both would commonly be called "commander". A major in the Alliance is one rank above staff commander and the eqivilent of captain in the navy. Normandy, even as special as she is, is only a frigate, so an XO with that rank makes sense. (Side note: given dialogue with the Quarians in ME2, the tradition of calling any commanding officer "captain" aboard their vessel, might not be much of a thing within the Alliance. When they call him captain, he specifies that he never reached that rank. Though how he would become a captain and not a major is never explained, they might literally be the same thing and just a preference or related to if you still hit the dirt or not, but like I said, it is never explained properly)
@whyjnot420 would be interesting if it was like One Piece. Where the higher rank you are, the stronger. But yeah look these are all basically super soldiers (besides Tali and a few others). It's not an easy thing to judge. Appreciate your explanation of ranks!
God garrus with n7 typhoon solos all at once
In my opinion; the only real answer are the biotics, with the viability going Wrex, Samara, Jack, and Liara in that order.
Wrex has both lore and gameplay in his factor of being incredibly powerful and impossible to kill.
Samara has a lot of lore in her favor being a biotic justicar, but her actual gameplay is not that impressive.
Jack is an absolute monster in lore and pretty good in power, and is supposed to be the most powerful human biotic period.
Liara is an underdog. She has combat training from Asari Commandos, and she gains a ruthlessness and independence over the series goes. Also, Liara has the fastest recharging and largest AoE biotics of all possible squadmates. Lore wise, she also has a high level of technological capability. She also has an incredible level of precision and intelligence, as exhibited by waging a one Asari war on the greatest information broker in the galaxy.
Liara is great. If she had a bigger combat focus, or even Mass Effect 5 worth of experience, she'd be above Samara. But she's still a baby in ME3.
So Krogan or at least Wrex are basically Catachan Jungle Fighters 49:23
Was excited for this video but I think you may be under estimating Thane a bit. (And he's not even a favorite for me) I think he'd be a slow paced methodical killer eliminating people in optimal or advantageous situations. Unlikely to lose, however; mine is just a RUclips opinion. Love the content!
I didn't under-estimate him, I put him at the top. Look at the way he eliminates targets, though. Uses his fists, very low power but precise biotics, and precise low power guns. All of these don't work well against powerful barriers, or Krogen Biology. Thane can get the jump on wrex but he can't get through his protections before Wrex can one shot Thane. I don't doubt his skill, but this is a Mountain VS Red Viper situation.
It's also worth remembering that he's also very ill middle aged man. I absolutely adore him, and he's def top 3 in this hypothetical fight, but not the winner. Not when Wrex is on the field.
@@Dantics Honestly can say I wasn't expecting a reply, let alone one like this. That's all fair, maybe I'm a bit biased on my end but I do agree for the most part, Samara, Thane and Wrex would be the top three.
@@cherrycordiaI That's fair! And I agree, I may be a bit biased but Dantics did do a good job at illustrating how he ranked it all out.
Is this with or without plot armor? Because we all know how bad Wrex is without it.
I mean, you say Lliara is young, but you said that Samara is younger than her.
First as a diehard Tali Fan: No need for sorry, you are right. Tali lack way to much Experience for such a Situation and would die as one of the first in such a Hungergame like Fight. Second! I think Wrex would win because his Childhood on Tuchanka alone is already a Hungergame on its own and something tell me in his around 1000 Years that he got at least in such Situation of sick fighting in which a Crew turn at each other. Maybe a Garrus could win if he go full on Archangel Mode. But this is hard, way more easy its to say which People would get in a "Final". In my Eyes this are: Garrus, Wrex, Zaeed, Mordin(with a little luck), Samara(there is the Chance i think before she do such a Thing that she start killing her own Crew Buddys that she could kill herself because of the strict Code) Thane(Same situation like Samara) and finally and the biggest shaky candidates are Legion and Javik. Third i would say this Cloakingfield of the different Members: Threw out Sand or such Things and if somebody step on it you could see the Footsteps. If he/she try climbing to you... the Minds i write in 2. are clever enough to make this impossible.
You're right, childhood on Tuchanka is basically the hunger games. Sadly even if Tali was more skilled, I think against so many skilled opponents, you're bound to get a scrape or cut, and then it's an infection and possibly death.
An ai presidents channel named Prime Radiance did this in character as the squad, it was a fun vid. Did a poll beforehand too to determine the results of the 5 deadliest squadmates to beat Shepard (in his opinion) and it was Garrus and Thane topping A tier, with Javik, Samara, and Wrex taking top 3, Wrex winning.
I subscribed 2 weeks ago. Is Mordin available already?
**Lathers up**
this makes me wnt to play effects again... i hope the next one aint a flop
I was hoping this was some kind of fancy multiplayer set up where they are actually fighting eachother.
Sadly not something i could do. Even modders haven't pulled something like that off.
From the beginning I'm thinking Wrex and Samara as the final showdown. The gap in combat experience between them and the others is just way too massive. I'm curious where this goes though.
I would add Javik to that list, we don't know for sure how old he is, he could be only 100 or 500, but unlike literally everyone else on the list, he has literally only ever known a life of war, even Samara and Wrex have had down time in their life before and after they became the beasts they are now. I don't know that he'd win or anything, but I feel like Wrex, Samara, and Javik being top 3 makes sense.
If it was a tournament made of a series of 1v1s, I think Wrex is the easy favorite. He's crazy good with lesser AI in the first game. If it was a mass free for all, it would be whoever hides/ranges/escapes/survies the best. I'm not sure who that is, but people like Kasumi or a sniper with a good hiding place. Wrex would always be in the middle of hte action and take too many hits.
True, but I made a rule against hiding for that very reason. Or someone like Kasume would just camp out until the end.
Jimmy Vega really was a big waste of party space in ME3. I would have used Maeko Matsuo from ME's Noveria planet.
Well you can have a playthrough where ashley kills wrex and garrus kills ashley
Wrex. Every time.
Too bad mass effect doesn't give us map editor like halo or we can just pit them against each other
Liara she has the most change over series is a biotic and would have info on everyone else in the match
so far not surprised most of the humans are down
Why tf did you start with Jacob lmao
Vent God Jacob Taylor Wins
So I just watched the first part of the video and Jacob was first. I'm just going to say what everyone else is thinking *throat punch*
Oh you're going to love the next episode
Yea i think as much as i love some characters, there's only one who kinda runs away with it lets all say it together JACOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But seriously Wrex makes sense, Think Tali is too squishy, Garas is probably my next pick, I mean he took out a hind or something like he was taking out a regular soldier, He clearly can handle multiple targets at a time, He fought the blood pack leader who he said regenerated faster than any krogen he's ever seen, Well he's seen wrex, So yea think he could probably survive, But its hard to really decide when you add biotecks, Shepard kills them all though, Even if they all came at him with 100 Jacobs lol.
Shepard is god tier overpowered though. 100 Jacobs would just throw them selves off a cliff at the sight.
Some disagreements here and there but I'm mostly on board with the analysis. The final three for me were the same and in the same order.
No i agree that tali would not stand a chance i tali is my favorite character
Something that kept bothering me throughout the video is how you said Wrex and Samara are almost a century old when a century is only 100 years, I feel like the word you were looking for is millennium which means 1000 years. This along with a plethora of other minor mistakes makes the video incredibly annoying to watch.
Jenkins would win
Samara is overrated in both mind and body in my opinion.
I never liked her nor Thane because they both live by idiotic rules.
That's true, they have rules, but they're still very clearly skilled
Wrex an Samara are not a century old thay are almost a millenium old, centi 100 milli 1000. Liara is 100 yo
Liara is 106 yo
Yeah I said Century instead of Millennium. Happens when you're making a nearly hour long analysis, some words get jumbled.
@Dantics no problem, it's all good. You are still my favorite mass effect person🤟
oo! new vid!
:D
In lore, shields work like they do if you were playing on Insanity Difficulty. So people going down after a few shots in cutscenes makes sense. It's only game and story separation if you're not playing on the highest difficulty.
Shields work in cutscenes the way the story demands they work. They are inconsistent as hell.
Two examples from ME1 from the same mission: Ashley downs Wrex with a single pistol shot from the back. Even if his shields for.. some reason werent up, he has his suit of armor, a ton of regeneration, and several vital organs, and a hump behind his head that she couldnt have shot through. Later that same mission, Shepard fires three perfect shots at Saren, who stands there unimpressed by the shots fired.
ME2 had the same thing. ME3 as well.
Cutscenes shouldnt be taken seriously when it comes down to shields because it makes less sense than the value of the credits.
In books it's explained that at a certain level of close distance the shield can't stop the round. Bring down the sky was an inconsistency that can be interpreted as luck or just not possible and should be the shot missed.
@ well the books contradict the ingame lore if thats the case. In the game, the shields are held up due to miniature-mass effect fields to damage any sort of high velocity projectile (and explains why lasers are often an insta-kill).
Constant energy is required to keep up the shields, and someone on reddit theorised that when taking damage, you're actually drained of the energy to keep up said shield.
Regardless, the books are not correct if they state that mechanic. And I wouldnt be surprised, considering the books arent entirely accurate in a few cases, with the last book related to the OG trilogy being an epic clusterfuck so bad Bioware had an apology written in reprints.
Yeah as I mention, cut scenes are inconsistent and gameplay is as well. Biotics hit like wet noodles in Insanity ME2.
It was always going to be Wrex. 😁
I actually put Thane in 2 and Garrus in 3, but I can certainly see the argument for Samara.
Also, can we just say Tali was just knocked out and put a few extra rounds in Jacob instead, to make up for it? 🥺
Yes, let's say that's what happened. She got sick and was airlifted out.