This is well explained and presented. I'm a beginner and intend to start rappelling with my little daughter, so looking for good & safe ways to rappel together. Tandem will be my choice as it's safer that she's close to me and I control the ATC. Thanks a lot for this video!
For sure, I used to travel to Munich all the time when I worked for Linde (I was a chemical engineer). Loved doing some peak bagging in the alps back then.
@@summitseekersexperience Hey Jason, would you consider doing a video on your transition from engineer to guide? I'm a software engineer currently, and I don't see myself doing this forever. Hearing about your path would be interesting, and informative. I've certainly thought about becoming a guide in the future.
@@TheMrbonkers115 For sure. I've been wanting to do one on this transition as I think it's intimidating to a lot of people... but I think it's totally doable for anyone that really wants to do it.
That very much looks like Mt. Yonah in North Georgia… If it is, it’s a place where I used to climb and rappel many years ago. Anyway, enjoyed your video and I’m going to check out more of your content as I noticed you were in the Atlanta area, which is where I grew up. Cheers!
This is exactly the video I was looking for, thank you for the information! I have question though, what is the purpose for the overhand know in the sling that connects your partner to your sling/ATC? Is it just a shelf in case of future need?
It would depend on the situation, I think. He describes using the tandem rappel with an inexperienced climber / someone uncomfortable on their own. This would definitely not be the time to do a simul-rap XD
I really do not prefer the simul rap because you have two potential points of failure (each person's atc) that can wipe out the whole group. If you wanted to do a set-up like this, I would recommend a counterbalance rappel (not featured in this video, but mayble I'll make one.
I've seen some people use a second carabiner to attach the other person directly to the ATC/rope. Basically the ATC is connected to the rope by 2 carabiners, one for each person. Is there any drawback between connecting directly to the ATC rather then the sling or is it just preference?
I've seen that as well, that's probably a "style" preference. There is concern with too much stuff being on the carabiner and a potential tri-load or just "too busy". I prefer doing the sling as now I have dedicated areas for each function but definitely seen people do it the way you are saying.
technically yes, but I don't like to mess with carabiners that my life depends on. Probably a superstition of mine but I get afraid it will get loaded improperly and malfunction. I personally don't teach that.
See here how it can get messy (thankfully nothing happens in the video): ruclips.net/video/b3F8_CZkQ7Y/видео.html The other person's carabiner can't move down and probably generates a tremendous force outwards when weighted.
This is well explained and presented. I'm a beginner and intend to start rappelling with my little daughter, so looking for good & safe ways to rappel together. Tandem will be my choice as it's safer that she's close to me and I control the ATC. Thanks a lot for this video!
For sure, make sure to use a third hand and you should be good to go.
If you ever find yourself in Germany let's go climb. Thanks for the great videos.
For sure, I used to travel to Munich all the time when I worked for Linde (I was a chemical engineer). Loved doing some peak bagging in the alps back then.
@@summitseekersexperience
Hey Jason, would you consider doing a video on your transition from engineer to guide? I'm a software engineer currently, and I don't see myself doing this forever. Hearing about your path would be interesting, and informative. I've certainly thought about becoming a guide in the future.
@@TheMrbonkers115 For sure. I've been wanting to do one on this transition as I think it's intimidating to a lot of people... but I think it's totally doable for anyone that really wants to do it.
@@summitseekersexperience Awesome! Thank you so much!
@@TheMrbonkers115 for sure, you got it!
Good tips and nice presentation, thanks!
for sure
That very much looks like Mt. Yonah in North Georgia… If it is, it’s a place where I used to climb and rappel many years ago. Anyway, enjoyed your video and I’m going to check out more of your content as I noticed you were in the Atlanta area, which is where I grew up. Cheers!
Going through your old videos.
Did you mention the knot needed at the end of your rappel rope?
Might have missed it-sorry.
Barrel knot
This is exactly the video I was looking for, thank you for the information! I have question though, what is the purpose for the overhand know in the sling that connects your partner to your sling/ATC? Is it just a shelf in case of future need?
It makes the sling redundant for my partner. Technically I don't think you need to do it but it's a good practice IMO
Do you prefer having you and your partner attached to the same ATC over a conventional simul-rappel? (one on each strand of the rope)
It would depend on the situation, I think. He describes using the tandem rappel with an inexperienced climber / someone uncomfortable on their own. This would definitely not be the time to do a simul-rap XD
I really do not prefer the simul rap because you have two potential points of failure (each person's atc) that can wipe out the whole group. If you wanted to do a set-up like this, I would recommend a counterbalance rappel (not featured in this video, but mayble I'll make one.
I've seen some people use a second carabiner to attach the other person directly to the ATC/rope. Basically the ATC is connected to the rope by 2 carabiners, one for each person. Is there any drawback between connecting directly to the ATC rather then the sling or is it just preference?
I've seen that as well, that's probably a "style" preference. There is concern with too much stuff being on the carabiner and a potential tri-load or just "too busy". I prefer doing the sling as now I have dedicated areas for each function but definitely seen people do it the way you are saying.
Patty seems great, but that other cameraman, Dan, seemed real cool too
lol
in tandem rappelling, could the second climber clip into the carabiner that had the ATC ?, it seems more clean.
technically yes, but I don't like to mess with carabiners that my life depends on. Probably a superstition of mine but I get afraid it will get loaded improperly and malfunction. I personally don't teach that.
@@summitseekersexperience well you life depend on the blue sling on which the second is clip on too
@@curvenut right, but you can't cross load a sling
See here how it can get messy (thankfully nothing happens in the video): ruclips.net/video/b3F8_CZkQ7Y/видео.html
The other person's carabiner can't move down and probably generates a tremendous force outwards when weighted.
i ligit will never use any of those methods. just simul repel my guy
haha, thanks for the comment Dave... I'm semi-anti-simul rap but to each his own. Thanks for watching my content!
Be careful
lol