The Origin of Computers Beyond the Great Wall
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2023
- What were computers like during the early computer and home computer eras in China? While the last century was a turbulent time, the People's Republic of China and Chinese Academy of Sciences kept research and development of computers a top priority. The computers natively produced in that country by scientists from the 50s to today are uniquely Chinese. They had to be, their history and language being so different from the rest of the world's, it would have been more surprising if they only copied their neighbors.
Domestically designed Chinese computers like the Great Wall 0520CH, Chinese Education Computers, and Xiao Bawang were as influential in China as were the Apple II and Commodore 64 in the west.
Future installments in this series will take a deep dive into each of these systems, taking a look at what makes them tick, and what they were capable of.
你认识中国的计算机（长城，中华学习机，小霸王，等）吗？我想认识你的故事：inkbox@notin.tokyo
Learn more:
www.bbc.com/future/article/20...
computing.hit.edu.cn/11267/li...
www.computer-museum.ru/englis...
Chinese typing competition:
www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BW4...
Calligraphy:
www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iT4... 
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Some older people in china don't seem to know about typing with pinyin only drawing the characters, maybe talk about the development of OCR for chinese as well
Another great topic I hope to cover
TETRIS: Translation: TETRIS.
Turns out I knew a little Chinese all along ;D
Another Chinese name for Tetris: 俄罗斯方块
Translation: Russian Blocks
Don't forget about "score", translation: score and "hiscore" tl: highscore
@@InkboxSoftwarehitting translate to English under the comment actually gave me "Tetris" for those Chinese characters
@@Mordecrox separately, 俄羅斯 means russia and 方塊 means block
@@nuklearboysymbiote yeah I expected it, just that seems that Translate is getting context into account... Or they have it wrong the right way (hard translating that entire sentence as just "tetris")
epic video, can't wait for the next installments.
talking about input systems with pinyin being so ubiquitous none of my (chinese speaking) friends could actually type on my system, since I use the (now rather obscure) 五笔 lol
Thomas Mullaney also touches a bit on this interesting topic in his History of the Chinese typewriter.
I love your channel and I'm glad you're still uploading even with these criminally low views. Thanks for all your work!!!
I'm curious whether there are any fundamental differences between their designs and ours. How did they solve all of the various problems they encountered? Are their designs RISC or CISC and do they include instructions in their CPU's that we don't and vice versa?
For now, their designs are 100% equal to ours. Because they prefer to buy Intel i3 CPUs and then rebrand them as their own "home-grown" P3 CPUs. That is today's China for you.
@@bellissimo4520 True, but modern day China is a bit more into copying than they were in the past, and I'd love to see what they came up with when they first got started. If the history of such things is even recorded.
@@bellissimo4520 imagine caring about intellectual property this much, as if you owned it lol
These days they are just like in any other country but they are trying to popularise risk v and linux but its not ready yet
@@belstar1128 Personally, I wish someone would develop an open source CISC chip.
Really interesting stuff - subscribed for the rest of the series.
Fantastic video - I can't wait to see more! I had no idea that the Chinese language wasn't compatible with computers of that era. It makes so much sense that there was a push to develop them locally.
Fun fact: compatibility issues caused by these early stories still exist in modern Windows. GB2312 was introduced in Windows 3.1 to provide Chinese language support. Since then, for backward compatibility, Windows had to choose GB2312/GBK or GB18030 (a weird UTF implementation that is compatible with GB2312) as its default code page to prevent old software from displaying gibberish. This means contents encoded in UTF-8 or UTF-16 may not work on Windows in China, and some software may malfunction if put into a path with CJK characters.
@@RandomFish-gx7pj Oh, it gets even worse. Japanese had two systems before Unicode: SJIS and EUC-JP, and the Japanese were even into the early 2000s resistant to switching to Unicode. Only now are all the aftereffects of this dying down.
Sometimes i find Chinese websites that haven't been updated in over 20 years and the text is all garbled. it happens in other languages too even in French if there was an accent on a letter like é it would turn into ? you could only have plain English text unless you installed a bunch of stuff.
Well done, man. Looking forward to seeing more videos!
There had to be more preventing collaboration than just the language barrier. Japanese computers were way ahead and they had to solve the same character entry problems that China had to input Kanji characters.
Well, yeah, the cold war for example
if only there was something big and obvious, like a big red symbol or maybe flag that would symbolise a difference between Japan andy China, or something like some shared history
haha, crazy, also Japan was experiencing an economic miracle, and i have to add, despite mostly *solving* the issues, many displays strapped on resources could always pick the 'cheaty' kana-only route, whereas pīnyīn is largely unusable for the same purposes
2:35 The Hanyu Shuiping Kaoshi (Chinese language exam) always uses that melody at the beginning of the listening part...😂
your channel just popped up in my algo and it is absolutely fascinating. Instant subscribe.
this is something you never hear about in the english speaking world... really interesting
genuinley excited for this. love obscure home computers.
Love your videos thanks
The links for the bilibili videos are the wrong way round
Good eye, switched them to the correct way now
Hidden Secrets of Chinese Computers REVEALED
This video was awesome man, looking forward to watching some more of your stuff. Wish I had a modicum of your intelligence haha
Thank you so much for this
I know a fair bit about encoding issues, i18n and such, but have zero knowledge about computers in China, so this is really super interesting!
Audiably snorted at the TRANSLATION - TETRIS bit, great little gag in a really interesting video! Looking forward to the rest of the series after this and the next vid!
Thank you so much for Posting interesting, genuine videos about Chinese history, without the otherwise so prevalent anti-communist spin to it!
I like how he goes from this to making 8 bit minecraft
impressive !!
It’s a little bit funny how much of Asian computing history is just various countries’ engineers fighting with their non-spelled written language.
ZD2500/ZD3100H/PC-9801FC likely to appear in future video?
Could you turn deltarune into an snes game???
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China's entire tech history is rather interesting, I collect nixie tubes and VFD tubes and they just havd dozens and dozens of unique tubes that are extremely scarcely documented on our internet
How do the Chinese attempts to input their characters compare to the Japanese trying it with their version of Kanji
Both of them type the how a Hanzi/Kanji sounds and the computers gives suggestions based off context. Difference is that the Japanese either use the Latin alphabet or kana depending on user preference, while the Chinse almost always use the Latin alphabet.
The Wikipedia article on Input Method gives you an overview, there are different methods based either on how a word sounds, how it's written or hybrid methods.
I am glad that the screen touch was invented, as I don't know how to input pinyin typing. I prefer writing with my "finger" on the screen
Ehy babe, inkbox published a new video!!
did they tell you about it?
Wrong, the Chinese Empire fractured and was restored multiple times but there was never a singular unified empire or state of China that existed in perpetuity (just a bunch of successor states and polities that claimed legitimacy through the previous incarnations). That idea of Chinese history is literally tied to CCP propaganda used to justify their modern colonialist practices in Inner Mongolia, Tibet, etc.
Also Rome didn't just fall contrary to popular historical motifs, the empire was split in half with the Western Empire collapsing and the Eastern Empire surviving for another 1000 years + if you want to use Sinophile logic you can argue for the legitimacy of the HRE as a continuation of the Western Empire (not that any actual historian worth their salt ever would).
@@jacksonholloman china is a country. rome was an empire. you dont understand histroy
@@jacksonholloman by this logic yes you do see rome... in italy
yes a lot of the historical part and CCP part is completely state media propaganda
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Something happened in 198-
hilarious and original
@@20035079Very funny.
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There's an error at 0:23! You show the island of Taiwan (the Republic of China) as part of the PRC. The PRC's claim on the island is unfounded and not in compliance with reality. 🇹🇼
Interesting video, but your China maps are wrong. Taiwan is not part of communist China.
The guy making the video is obviously a Chinese American which is why he does that.
But as a foreigner in my opinion Taiwan is the true leader of China.
I think he works with china or something or maybe he even lives there.
Social credit, reduced by 810
Me when I talk about a country I know jack shit about:
According to western imperialist propaganda and no one else. Not the PRC, not the Kuomintang, not 180 or so of the world's 195 countries, not the UN, not even the US government. Virtually no one in the world, certainly no one whose opinion is relevant, believes that Taiwan and mainland China are two different countries.
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ok
how much htye pay you to make this lol