Jon Moxley Is A Terrible Wrestler?
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- Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
- Jon Moxley Is A Terrible Wrestler? Death-match wrestling, blood/guts and slugglish strikes: What happened to Jon Moxley's wrestling ability?
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It’s true.
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Lmao
Mox is a great wrestler
He’s overrated but not as bad as he’s making him out to be
Where are EC1 and 2
Jon Moxley having blood in almost all his matches has become so repetitive it does not feel special anymore
Cuz theyre not. If Punk vs Mox lasted 5 mins longer, he woulda bled then too
Hot take: Jon Moxley has a not so good wrestling style but his AEW character is the reason he’s seen as a big deal by some fans
It's more because he's more free to do what he wants and be who he is, but he had better in Ring style in 2012-2017
You must live in Chicago
Dude his wannabe stone cold personality is fucking awful. The way he worked against Punk at all out though reminded of the old dean that people used to praise as a fantastic heel. More of that and less middle fingers please
Yeah he's the best wrestler itw tho
To be fair. If Edge vs AJ Styles had happened 10-15 years ago, it may have been a lot better
Probably
Edge just before his first retirement, AJ Styles just before coming to WWE. Both at the best point in their careers facing off. Thatd have been the match to see. But of course AJ Styles spent years getting told he wasnt good enough for the big times right up until they needed the draw in wwe and used him and balor to get hands on a bullet club storyline
Thats not "MAYBE'',, that's "SURELY"
It was a mistake wrestling that pace of match after the crowd had been burned out from the all the shit previously.
Moxley himself is a good wrestler he just has unmemorable matches. Like almost all his title defenses were against wrestlers who aren’t established and just there to add another win under his belt.
His wrestling is not good but his promos are kind of good.
@@luisleon8211 he has a brawler in ring style, it’s not everyone’s cup of tea but it has its place in wrestling
Personally I think he was better in WWE. When you give him complete freedom he turns it into outlaw mudshow bs
@@BWoodTTV I mean did u see the end of his WWE run that is definitely the worst he’s been. Look I don’t love moxley just since he came back from rehab and gave that promo there’s just been something about him and he just feels like a big deal
Wrestlers who aren't established? For some that's slightly true but for others like Konosuke Takeshita not even close. Dude pretty established himself through his match with Jay Lethal, & Eddie Kingston
I’m hoping that Triple H allows edge and AJ Styles to redo their feud without Vince McMahon holding them back
Edge has to go back being a Heel again.
@@RiruKrypto_ faces can have feuds just like heels can have feuds with each other
My hot take: Chris Jericho is having the worst run of his career in aew. Majority of his feuds suck, his matches are no longer memorable, and he constantly goes over when he shouldn't. His Eddie Kingston feud sealed the deal for me. I'm tired of him and his stupid sports entertainment faction.
not a hot take, his honeymoon aew run died last year. his best work this decade was with KO in 16/17
If he can go back to like inner circle le champion stuff i would be happier
I agree, I think he should go away for a while and only make special appearances
Hot take
Planna is a WWE mark and hates CM punk he only covered the negative news that came about him and made a poisonous video on it but when news of him helping FTR hobbs and giving young talent advice came out he didn't even said a word about it.
Well damn.
Well, there was literally no positive AEW question in the videos.
@@paulbatol7707 I am not talking about this video. I'm talking about the video he made about punk.
I agree with most of the things said in this video
How's he wwe mark ?
@@IamTheCanvas86 bro he would die if cock gobbling wwe is banned for a day
I think Mox is fine, but they just need to use him differently. Eddie Kingston is a better “heart and soul” of the company, and like half the company has more interesting matches than him.
I say darby is the heart and soul imo
One thing I hate about Jon is he always bleeds in nearly every match he's in
One of Mox's most serious problems is when you see one of his fights, you've already seen them all.
That is a problem that even currently it is not solving.
Pretty much
@@MorePllana And I'm only saying the tip of the iceberg.
I like Jon Moxley but his matches are kinda repetitive, he's always bleeding in nearly all his matches with probably a few exceptions.
This may be a hot take, may be a lukewarm take idk. Dijakovic could easily be an upper midcarder, maybe even a main eventer, if presented like he was in NXT. Just get rid of the TBAR character, repackage him back to how he used to be, and let him do his thing.
What happened to the other channel
hes uploading only the major videos on his main
@@EvanTakesNoLs Did he ever explain why switched channels? Luckily I saw this channel on my recommended feed but if he announced something I must’ve missed it.
@@USHARDY He did, check the community posts on his main channel, you'll see it
@@USHARDY he announced it in the comments of a video I believe
Working on a video rn for it. Big project videos on here. Everything else on MorePllana
It’s the blood for me, too damn repetitive.
Also the defences being against weak wrestlers, on this current reign at least
Seriously It’s Getting Repetitive Seeing The Blood Every Match, It Used To Be So Special.
against weak unknown wrestlers yet they last for 15+ mins. Does that mean Mox is weak or does it mean his opponent is 'pushed'
How dare you say RUSH is a weak wrestler!
Didn’t Pllana say 2 years ago on how Moxley is good and one of the best, but now he’s saying he’s not that good? Wow times have changed
He’s gotten worse since. Like he just doesnt care anymore
@@MorePllana he ain't been the same since he came back from rehab.
This is why I can’t take anything he says seriously.
Saying Dean Ambrose is better than Jon Moxley..I mean what?
The way Moxley plays with the crowd is one of the best in aew
Dean is a better wrestler. Mox is the better character
@@MorePllana aew Fanboys only say these things
2015 and 2016 ambrose was much better than jon moxly
To people hating on the constant blood
I get your point, it’s repetitive but look back at the OG moxley on the indie set, he always bled, he’s a hardcore wrestler at heart.
Personally I think he’s a great character. A lot of charisma
Jon Moxley is decent in my opinion. But he always has to bleed in a match he’s in like…bruh why?
Because that's his thing he doesn't but he wants to
He's like a worse off flair
The blood can be a bit too much and doesnt add to the story
@@MorePllana exactly. Not every match needs blood in my opinion, it would make sense in like well…Steel Cages or death matches and whatever. But a normal one on one match. Like how the hell do you bleed.
Just saying he needs to tone it down with the blood
Always seeing blood in his matches waters down the importance of blood. Blood should be a holy shit moment in the match but now it’s a “oh he’s bleeding again”
Ima be honest I thought you were gonna say " obviously I'm just kidding " after you said that nonsense about mox.
Mox is not a good wrestler rn
@@MorePllana I gotta respectfully disagree lol.
@@undriftedpop788 be sucks he’s a wanna be stone cold same expression everytime looks like he thinks he’s the shit when hes not
His babyface wrestling style has sucked since wwe. Dude does his best work as a heel but ditch the wannabe stone cold personality please
I think moxley used to be a good wrestler , and still has the ability to be one and have good matches consistently but the problem is he is too reckless in some sense and thinks that more crazy things = better match , if he stops with the blading , going outside the ring every 3 seconds and deathmatches and leave them for big grudge matches only ( and stops fighting ppl who masturbate in the ring ) I think he can still have good extremely physical fights
Forgot the kissing men too
Nah Planna what the hell... the way you pronounced my name is a violation 😂
💀💀
😂😂
Hot Take: Jinder Mahal’s World Title reign was not as bad as people make it out to be and I enjoyed the run
I don’t watch Jon that much I just watch dean because dean is my favorite wrestler ever not Jon, dean there’s a big difference
Dean Ambrose segment what make him memorable comepare to jon moxley
Moxley I understand that he bleeds a lot but overrated that a little bit of a reach that just me
I gotta say Pilana i appreciate your work recently you making decent job recently and keep it up!.
Thank you!
AJ styles vs EDGE wasn't that good bc they had the wrong roles it would have been better if edge was face and AJ was HEEL that's how we pictured it
it shouldve just been a one off and book it like they did hbk and hogan, have edge tell styles afterwards he just had to make sure he got the absolute best of aj and made sure he brought it all outta him
Their second match was good
He Not That Good As A Wrestler But As An Character And A Hardcore Wrestler He One Of My Favorite
1:17 that didn’t aged well
LOL
The Jon Moxley Slander is crazy
It's just copy and paste bot shit. They all are repeating Cornette, none of these opinions are theirs. Different motivations tho. Pilana and the drones are just bitter cause they know he ain't ever going back to the ded fed. The guy said "I liked him better as Ambrose" where he legitimately was boring.
Mox is not a wrestler in the traditional sense, wrestling has evolved over the years, you don't have to lock up or be a grappling pro to be a wrestler, Mox is a self admitted brawler, he's at his best outside the rules and ring, look at him vs Suzuki, that's Moxley at his best & happiest, who can hit hardest, and you can tell when he's actually trying, cuz he dresses down, and puts on the tights and kneepads, that's how it was in CZW and how it was in NJPW, and he continues to have that tendency from time to time, although it's getting more and more rare.
Thanks for using my hot take. Keep doing your thing. Love your videos!
Moxley is a unique wrestler who is a brawler and is very very good and perfect for him
Not a fan
@@MorePllana your take but tbh the best wrestler imo is NJPW styles
I was a huge Dean Ambrose fan, I only watched few clips of Moxley's first year in AEW. After his return I have seen lot more of his work and it has looked really repetitive. Only improvement I found was his moveset compared from wwe days. He punches the air most of the time, his elbow strikes look horrible too as well his knee strikes are awful. All his matches have blood and the worst aspect is he gets caught blading in front of the camera quite often. Atleast he should make an effort to hide it better. I am only talking about his in ring work.
@@MorePllana Shut up
People are saying that because he’s bleeding all the time 😂
😂
Good enough to be champ in MULTIPLE promotions!!
Bc his name
Known enough
@@MorePllana Okay then with that logic being a champion means nothing bc champions are meant to be the best of there brand correct?
rey shouldn’t turn heel, he’s as natural of a babyface as one can be, his persona has always been characterized by principles, values and general sense of duty, purity and compassion. it would be incoherent and uncalled for i think, just because an idea is innovative, new and even intriguing doesn’t mean that it’s good imo
Dom turning heel would make much more sense
@@shahanahsan05 indeed!
Yeah, he's a person that is hard to boo or not respect
Rey is one of few wrestlers to never turn heel in WWE if you count WCW he’s only been heel once and it wasn’t long term nor was Rey happy as a heel bc he abandoned his mask which Rey had no say in even though it’s a super big deal to take off your mask in Lucha Libre (I think that’s the word?)
Can you try and do more what if videos those were great videos like one good one would be what if Stone Cold never retired
Mox is amazing
Mjf should definitely go to wwe he would become a way bigger superstar if it happens 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
He would be almost as famous as the miz
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD on god triple h would take care of him just like their doing with Cody 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@WrestlingIsReal649 well aslong as he gets creative freedom on his promos he should fine
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD I think that the best example of freedom happened in the Seth and Matt segment, I think that if triple H gives him a little of that freedom, we would have the best version of mjf ever seen.
@@The_Inquisitor644 Matt Riddle right?
I wouldn't mind Mox so much if he wasn't always bleeding.
Yeah good point
What happened to your main channel?
Hot take: Roderick Strong is the modern day dean malenko
We need this weekly
I do it weekly basically
Did you change the thumbnail and title back or am I trippin?
Dawg you have to be joking💀 your entitled to your own opinion but like did you see the shit the writers in wwe had for mox? Like what do u mean “ he needs the wwe writers”
Producers, not writers. Producers to produce his match
@@MorePllana that’s such a dumb ass take 😂😂
Can you make a video on riddle texts
Sorry but Velveteen Dream coming back is NOT possible with the amount of things that's on his head
Especially with the weird rumor that he filmed wrestlers nude or smth at a party lol
@@MythTheFan I heard about that too.
I really hope that Dominick turns into Eddie Guerrero in 2005 more sadistic
Mox's style of wrestling is different than you like #hottake🙂🙂
Believe it or not…Cornette thinks Moxley is a Star he just hates the crap he involves himself in and I agree. I think Moxley is great but the GCW and hardcore crap needs to be ditched
He started as hardcore I doubt he’ll leave what made him
Yea the jon moxley thing is true tbh
common Pllana W video. But the Mox take sucks, especially considering that you're such a Randy Orton fan.
I have no problem w slow wrestling. Orton makes it look real. Mox's strikes dont even connect..
Randy Orton isn't slow for a man in 40's and that rko ain't slow either
Even if we excuse Mox's repetitive matches, he is not doing a good job, his punches and knee strikes don't land. He gets caught blading in front of the camera. Selling of moves in his matches are really inconsistent too.
I just want to see the Triple H story for the return of Dean Ambrose.
His finisher is underhook Suplex 😂
Fucking finally someone said it moxley is not good and his overreliance on blading is so annoying he wrestles like a indie mudshow guy it's embrassing I liked his work in wwe but in aew it's been hard to watch
My problems with 205 live is a bad time slot and restricting all the cruiser weight to wreatling each other. Plus not allowing them to wrestle outside the 205 brands
4:23 Keith Lee and Andrade maybe.But Adam Cole has a long history with the Bucks and Kenny
Hot take:
WWE in 2009-2017/2018 waa under appreciated looking back
Might want to get rid of the question mark
I like Jon moxley but while I'm happy to see him doing well but I feel like Mox is in that spot he was in when he was in the Wwe and Pratically gave no effort in his matches towards the end I think that he needs to slow down and find that joy again
Rey Mysterio turning heel and aligning with Legado del fantasma will be chef's kiss 👌🏻🔥
With Tony Khan, when stars like Malakai Black are requesting their release as it has been reported, you cannot ignore it for too long. I feel like someone like Andrade will soon follow that path as he has already shown some discontent in AEW.
Black seems to be potentially taking a lengthy or permanent leave from wrestling not related to AEW we dk yet
Vallon,the voice & audio sounds wierd af
Finn Balor as a heel and leader of Judgement Day is probably doing the best character work of his career right now
New channel? What happened
Moxley is great! Dakota Kai is the best!
Hot take: Austin Theory is not going to cash in successfully because he's Vince's guy.
Another hot take is that Roman is probably going to keep defending his title for another year or two.
Do You Think HHH Could Bring Back Custom PPV Stages??
You think WWE booked Moxley better? That really is a hot take. I think the issue here is that Mox has his own style and freedom in AEW and it may not for appealing to many.
Fun fact: Rey Mysterio turned heel in Smackdown vs Raw 2011
True lol
It's true he is the 3rd best guy in the Shield!
NO VELVETEEN NO!
I guess Dean ambrose was better wrestler but jon moxley is a better character and sometimes that's a lot way important
dude you are mocking peoples opinions telling your opinions are nonsense then you say moxley is a bad wrestler and he was better as dean ambrose sorry bro your opinion is nonsense
I believe that MOX is a very good wrestler. Most of today's wrestling fans want to see high flying breaking your neck action. Well Jon won't give you that. What he will give you is a hard hitting, grit and determination type of match that most fans will respect. Also pro wrestling is not about moves in the ring but how the fans interact with a character. He is bare bones working class guy that wear his heart on his sleeve and gives 0 f%@ks what you think. I do believe that the blood takes away from the certain matches. I give detractors that but it's a part of his character makeup especially coming from CZW. All in all Mox has been making the rounds, in and out of AEW, and has been the glue that Khan needs especially in times like these.
I've said this for a while not all but. Majority of the talent that leaves WWE and goes to AEW does not wrestle as good as they did in WWE
It's because of WWE has there own style where aew is just a bunch of different styles clashing with each other witch doesn't work
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Exactly
@@johnrogers9035 also WWE production team so much better then aew's
I don’t know how you can objectively say reigns has a better year than mox. Mox is unstoppable. Reigns barely wrestlers these days and Mox is that top prize fighter that goes out and smashed people. He had the most dominate win over punk recently.
@@jueezzzz And needing help in 90% of his title matches…js
Mox year has been great if look in retropesct he had bangers with wheeler yuta, biff (on gcw) , Takeshita, Rush, Bryan Danielson and participated of anarchy in the arena that is my match of the year so far. His run for the aew was kinda weird thoght.
People say he is carrying AEW on his back. TBH, even MJF carried AEW way more than him.
My thoughts on heel Dominik is that he is trying to Eddie Guerrero so why not go heel.
Here's my third hot take, hope it doesn't suck ass.
The TV-14 rating would be a great start to making sure shows like raw and smackdown and even NXT good again.
Some could argue it won't, and that creative is what needs fixing.
And while part of that is true, the PG rating is still a problem.
Having it go back to TV-14 with good creative control would help professional wrestlers
that didn't have too much character, improve and have them develop their character in bigger and better ways.
That’s not really a “hot take”. I’d argue most people probably agree with that. It’s a commonly stated concern
AEW needs to turn more people heel or need to turn to reset button at this moment wwe is better because they hardly have any heels it’s the same stuff reset rivalries and all of that
Can talk abt Jamie Hayter?
I prefer Jon's in Ring style in WWE them aew
If booked right shinsuke nakamura could be the biggest draw in wrestling his song is the ultimate pop
Man why you never put my hot takes dude
Such a hater. Mox still naturally outwrestled majority of aew roster.
That’s bad for the rest of the roster
Mox was really good and much better than Ambrose....initially. Both Kenny feuds, the first Jericho feud and Kingston's were amazing. It was around the end of the covid era that he started to go downhill.
Agreed. Idk if it's creative or what.
But his promos tho.
Thats literally when he got good.
5:58
I think Adam Cole is just not good enough for a "big league". I mean, he was excellent in NXT and I was a big fan of him and the rest of UE, but when he left and joined AEW he did exactly the same what he did in NXT, but among this big stars like Danielson, Punk, Mox, Jericho and Omega, he's just perceived as a mid carder and then looking back at his days in NXT, I realised that he was a big star cuz there's no one who can be bigger, yeah, NXT had Ciampa and Gargano, but they're not as big as Danielson and Mox just the name of few. Adam Cole failed as a top star in AEW not because booking is bad, but because Adam Cole is just not good enough, the same would happen if Adam Cole joined the main roster.
fans will lose their shit if you say it, but he doesnt have the look of a star. yeah danielson is short too, but hes stocky and can come off as someone that can beat your ass. cole is short and skinny as hell and fuck me if ive never really seen what all the hype is about him
@@stevenwoods5787 people love Adam Cole because he can cut a promo and he's great in the ring. His match with Gargano at takeover New York is considered by many to be one of the greatest main events in WWE history. I can understand the hype surrounding him.
@@stevenwoods5787 Tell me you’re an old school wrestling fan without telling me you’re an old school wrestling fan
@@MythTheFan that sheamus vs gunther match made me smile saturday
@@stevenwoods5787 nice but the business has evolved beyond just being a big guy you need a lot more to succeed in wrestling and legitimately no wrestler is popular for no reason
I NEED HIM IN WWE FOR THE SHIELD PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He doesn't wanna be in the ded fed.
Hot take: AEW has way too much talent.
Even as someone who prefers AEW over WWE that’s not a hot take lmao that’s not even a lukewarm take
The closest thing to a memorable promo Jon had was telling a dude to get the fuck out when he came back. That’s it. Nothing else comes to mind.
ur capping so hard en
I like moxley’s promos
Of course you think that about moxley you are the biggest simp for wwe moxley doesn’t need anyone he has put on better matches than even Roman but since he’s in aew you automatically hate him you just can’t stand to see others succeed in aew
Maybe do what if Rey Mysterio Turned Heel
Rey Mysterio should never turn heel
I 100% agree with you.
MJF vs Austin Theory is the next Cena vs Orton
It could have been Dream vs Austin Theory but Mr. Clark threw away that chane
Yo if velveteen dream didn’t get arrested we could’ve actually seen him again
Maybe, who knows
Mox is just cool, his matches aren’t awesome or anything but he carries himself like a star, cuts awesome promos, and has a sick entrance
I wish Dynamite commentary was just Shiavone and Taz, that’d be awesome
Adam Cole was objectively better in NXT than AEW
“AEW fell off” is a bit of an overreaction
Hot take: Liv’s reign haven’t been that great
What it's been like 2 months maybe
True
It just started...
@@GilDice And it will probably end this saturday.
Hotter take: Liv Morgan was never that good to begin with 🤷🏾♂️.
Man in another time line Velveteen Dream defeated Roman Reigns for the Undisputed belts.