For those interested, Frost now is a commentator for BBC and you will hear him talk when watch all England every year. Zhao is still coaching and hosting badminton related event, he is still beast though, saw him play in 2017 still beat a guy 30 years younger than him
Thanks for uploading this game ..This match of Morten Frost reminded me of the All England championship which Prakash won in 1980 who was coached and played along with Morten in Denmark .
Zhao was my favourite player as a schoolboy and still is . The most elegant player on court and what wristwork. On his day, nobody could touch him , not even the great Frost or Yang Yang.
Denmark always has a great-fine Men Singles. Such like Svend Pri, Morten Frost, Poul Erik Hoyer-Larsen, Peter Rasmussen, Peter Gade, Jan O Jorgensen, and now Viktor Axelsen and Anders Antonsen.
Wow. Zianhua has the most precise and well angled smash I have ever seen. Somehow these older matches semm to be more tactical and less physical than it is the case nowadays.
It's the 15 point system so the players have to be smarter with how they spend their energy since 1 game could easily last over an hour whereas a game in the 21 point rally system takes usually 3 games to go over an hour since both players can score no matter who serves. This is why the older matches are so elegant prior to the rule change.
Zhao moves around the court like a player of current times, shame his frequent health issues took a heavy toll on him and he had to quit the game when he was still quite young
Frankly some of Zhao Jianhua's moves are just breathtaking to watch ... too bad he frequently lapse into lower energy levels and let big advantages slip by ... but when he's in the on position, its really amazing fireworks on display ...
@@bananaboy78member40 After he contracted pneumonia, his lungs were not in very good condition anymore, therefore he could not perform at his peak unfortunately, tried his best to stay in the game
Thanks so much for the uploader :) As a goodminton player I was wondering how if zhao were one of the shuttlers thesedays, meeting lee chong wei, lin dan, hidayat, gade.. the qrandprix arenas must be more exciting!! To be frank, among them all, I guess zhao could be on the top
Heryanto Arbi too :) Zhao is better than Chen Long today, Zhao had perfect footwork and killer jump smash. Old fashion badminton having longer rally than today :)
I just tried my dad racket (80's) Carbonex 8, it is 3x heavier than my Nanospeed, I don't know how they played before :) With old school 15 points/game. I felt to game so long :)
Arema00 Yes, it is longer so stamina comes into play a lot. I think 15 point system gives a better indicator of who's the better player because only the player serving gets point. If I'm serving, you would have to win 2 rallies to win a point. First rally to win the service. Second rally to win the point. With the 21 point system, it's faster because it doesn't matter who serves first, both players can win points. But with the 21 point system, luck comes into play a lot more. Just because u beat in 21 doesn't necessary mean u are the better player, u might be just lucky. If you smashed it out, service fault, hit the net, ur opponent is rewarded point.
I heard from Li Mao, the New China Coach, someone kidding that zhao's smash is too sharp, the shuttle cock already touch the court, but zhao's still yet landing.
Shouting is now part of the psychological war. It's very annoying. That spain girl is unwatchable. A complete meat plank. These guys had some class. Frost is old school. Moves beautifully. Good defense. Clear and drop guy with the occasional smash. He is the purest. This Asian guy here was moving like a modern player. Overwhelmed frost. Great match
Jianhua beated swie king in semifinal all england 1985 is same like Hermawan Susanto beated Jianhua in Olympic Games 1992. The lost from hermawan made Jianhua retired soon at 27 years old... Those badminton single players on that time retired younger than now because the games system not like now
Frost is the most elegant badminton player ever seen so far , Zhao Jianhua was the most skillful and powerful player in 1980s. Back to 1970s, it was Lim siew king who was the best badminton player . They are all great Champions.
Of course Frost would battle to the last point. We've all won games from seemingly hopeless positions, and as World and All England champion Frost has oodles of mental fortitude.
A steady camera in one location for a whole rally.. I think the filming of this one is pretty brilliant, with the great tony gunawan ruclips.net/video/CNx_3gFdbm8/видео.html
Those were the years where players use their intelligence to play and when the game is over they shake hands like gentlemen, they have respect for each other. Now days the players don't have the sportsman quality in them.
@@黎榮勝 most final winners these days do not shake the opponents hands right away after they won . The keyword is "final" . They might do the immediate hand-shaking after finishing their earlier rounds.
if only Zhao master have the physical like lindan.. and bettersets of Lungs... he will become the first GOAT,, i like his style more than lindan, though lindan is the best in men single history. period... sad he is born with that disadvantages
I remember an older Frost competed in a Danish tv special against other professional athletes, and crushing them in the cross country running discipline. Try to lower your screen to only watch his legs...
Wow this is when Gillian Clark was still playing professionally too. The familiar commentating voice everyone hears during almost every important game ever now? Yup that's her
All players of this kind of tournament surely so great, Indonesian's should realize with consistency and strong mentality, otherwise they will be loosers.
The main difference to today´s players (apart from modern rackets, strings etc. and better physical abilities) is the amount of unforced errors. You would not see that many shots going out or into the net today from the world´s best players. And that despite the fact that the game is much faster today! That should not take anything away from the accomplishments of past champions - it´s just a statement of fact...
The third set, setting to 5 was very confusing with the players serving out of the opposite boxes as per usual. Less confusing if the score was announced as ie: 16-14 instead of 3-1.
Im my opinion this is the best classic match i ever watched
For those interested, Frost now is a commentator for BBC and you will hear him talk when watch all England every year. Zhao is still coaching and hosting badminton related event, he is still beast though, saw him play in 2017 still beat a guy 30 years younger than him
and he's ex president of BAM
Thanks for uploading this game ..This match of Morten Frost reminded me of the All England championship which Prakash won in 1980 who was coached and played along with Morten in Denmark .
Elegant, graceful and magnificent is Zhao Jianhua!
zhao jianhua salah satu idolaku!!! hebat! sama persis Lindan!
Mungkin Lin Dan banyak liat rekaman video ini..gerakannya sama persis trnyta..saya jg baru sadar.
Zhao was my favourite player as a schoolboy and still is . The most elegant player on court and what wristwork. On his day, nobody could touch him , not even the great Frost or Yang Yang.
Me too 😊. Zhao Jian Hua my favourite player FOREVER.
The great Ardy Wiranata said the same thing after being whitewashed by Zhao Jianhua in the 1992 Singapore Open.
Denmark always has a great-fine Men Singles. Such like Svend Pri, Morten Frost, Poul Erik Hoyer-Larsen, Peter Rasmussen, Peter Gade, Jan O Jorgensen, and now Viktor Axelsen and Anders Antonsen.
Iya
vittinghaus
Where is fleming delfs....
Yes you forgot Flemming Delfs....
Zhao JianHua is one of the most talented players --amazing skills
Both are elegant and talented players.
During this era, my favourite player was Yang Yang!
much better camera angles back then, compared the flat crap we get today.
Ct f
Yup..these days so boring camera angle.
they are legends
badminton was so elegant compare to now
Wow. Memorabilia.
Wor Derek commentating.
I still remember the old scoring system.
Got back into badminton in February 2017.
So much has changed.
I wasn't born yet when they were playing thanks for the upload.yuvanesh a 2nd year medical college boy.
during those days I would sit up the whole afternoon seeing the good show put up by all the great badminton players
Morten Frost is also known as Mr badminton..classy elegant and graceful footwork
Wow. Zianhua has the most precise and well angled smash I have ever seen. Somehow these older matches semm to be more tactical and less physical than it is the case nowadays.
Agree... Super Zao
It's the 15 point system so the players have to be smarter with how they spend their energy since 1 game could easily last over an hour whereas a game in the 21 point rally system takes usually 3 games to go over an hour since both players can score no matter who serves. This is why the older matches are so elegant prior to the rule change.
ZJH no doubt the most elegant player I've seen
Zhao moves around the court like a player of current times, shame his frequent health issues took a heavy toll on him and he had to quit the game when he was still quite young
Zhao Jinhua has been an influential badminton player whose game style has been adopted by modern greats Bao Chunlai and Lin Dan.
Great video. Elegancy is the word for the style of these two players. I also missed Yang Yang. Videos of his play are mostly fuzzy and unclear
It was the first time Zhao played the AE at age below 20, and won the championship.
Not really smart to leave at top so ruins for everyone else
Loving Zhao moves so perfect :)
Frankly some of Zhao Jianhua's moves are just breathtaking to watch ... too bad he frequently lapse into lower energy levels and let big advantages slip by ... but when he's in the on position, its really amazing fireworks on display ...
after first all england champion he get sick almost death...that why when he back in competition again not have same level stamina like before that
@@linkdiablo4476 can u explain more?
@@bananaboy78member40 After he contracted pneumonia, his lungs were not in very good condition anymore, therefore he could not perform at his peak unfortunately, tried his best to stay in the game
I miss these 2 players
This game is so intense! Such mental fortitude
Thanks so much for the uploader :) As a goodminton player I was wondering how if zhao were one of the shuttlers thesedays, meeting lee chong wei, lin dan, hidayat, gade.. the qrandprix arenas must be more exciting!! To be frank, among them all, I guess zhao could be on the top
Well most people think Zhao Jianhua is the only vintage player who can beat Lin Dan in such a context
Heryanto Arbi too :)
Zhao is better than Chen Long today, Zhao had perfect footwork and killer jump smash. Old fashion badminton having longer rally than today :)
+Irwan Rosyadi Not to mention he also has numerous deception shots.
I just tried my dad racket (80's) Carbonex 8, it is 3x heavier than my Nanospeed, I don't know how they played before :) With old school 15 points/game. I felt to game so long :)
Arema00 Yes, it is longer so stamina comes into play a lot. I think 15 point system gives a better indicator of who's the better player because only the player serving gets point. If I'm serving, you would have to win 2 rallies to win a point. First rally to win the service. Second rally to win the point. With the 21 point system, it's faster because it doesn't matter who serves first, both players can win points. But with the 21 point system, luck comes into play a lot more. Just because u beat in 21 doesn't necessary mean u are the better player, u might be just lucky. If you smashed it out, service fault, hit the net, ur opponent is rewarded point.
I like the way how zhou jianhua smashing..better than nowadays player
Agree with you. Zao is the raising atar china player.. He is power full is deception and attacking
I heard from Li Mao, the New China Coach, someone kidding that zhao's smash is too sharp, the shuttle cock already touch the court, but zhao's still yet landing.
In the earlier times players don't use to shout after they won the rally that was the best part
Shout wasting energy, in old scoring system it was lethal
Shouting is now part of the psychological war. It's very annoying. That spain girl is unwatchable. A complete meat plank. These guys had some class. Frost is old school. Moves beautifully. Good defense. Clear and drop guy with the occasional smash. He is the purest. This Asian guy here was moving like a modern player. Overwhelmed frost. Great match
Can't believe Martin Tyler commentating on anything other than football
Was surprised indeed, but if I remember right he did a bit of cricket too in his earlier days .. After all 3 have origins in England
These are the two players whom, Indonesian player Lim Siew King fears most, especially, zhao jian Hwa, who has not lost to Lim Siew King.
on 85 King old already, ..Jianhua fears Ardi Wiranata ...ardi teach him how to play
King was not that old. He was 29 years old in 1985. Zhao has beaten Ardi more than Ardi beating Zhao.
@@sterlingyapsoonaik7097 at that time late 20's was old, besides King was focusing in playing doubles.
King and Jianhua in a different era, 9 years distance between this 2 players
Jianhua beated swie king in semifinal all england 1985 is same like Hermawan Susanto beated Jianhua in Olympic Games 1992. The lost from hermawan made Jianhua retired soon at 27 years old... Those badminton single players on that time retired younger than now because the games system not like now
Only Zhou Juanhua the first attempt become the All England CHAMPION 1985.no others players do that in the mordern era
Lin Dan 2004 and Kento Momota 2019 first final become champions
That low tension string sound....ouch Wonderfull fotwork from zhao
Very skillful play by both
Zhao Joan his..is the greatest badminton player!!!!!
Frost is the most elegant badminton player ever seen so far ,
Zhao Jianhua was the most skillful and powerful player in 1980s.
Back to 1970s, it was Lim siew king who was the best badminton player . They are all great Champions.
great match
Was martin tayler the commentator?
indeed, we forget he could have been young at some point in time
Of course Frost would battle to the last point. We've all won games from seemingly hopeless positions, and as World and All England champion Frost has oodles of mental fortitude.
跟這些前輩比，現代的世界級球員簡直是超人！
This game has been beautiful ever since 1985
epic match!
liem swee king is the King, having
most powerful smashes!
除左李宗伟，䞜剑华系我最欣赏球员，技术无懈可击👍
Halo,you dont know write inglish?.chow hai.
@@jojo-cx4cn 唔识睇咪咪鬼睇咯
@@leepatrick1919 ma hai
@@jojo-cx4cn sueh chai
morten frosts backhand though at 6:30
Morten is The Legend.. Very complete player.
They rarely change the shuttlecock
Denmark selalu no 1 di eropa 👍
Tp dulu juga ada Swedia, Inggris...
Skrg tambah ada Spanyol dan Perancis.
Luar biasa! ❤
Camera angle and zoom make it more exciting
I wish they would record the current matches like this from the corner of the court
Agreed as one can truly appreciate the miraculous skill of the repertoire of shots from both players
A steady camera in one location for a whole rally.. I think the filming of this one is pretty brilliant, with the great tony gunawan ruclips.net/video/CNx_3gFdbm8/видео.html
Ya bgt lah kehebatan Zhao Jian Hua semua pemain terbaik dunia dikalahkan tak berkutik.
hilalbuston :
Jian Hua hebat , namun sllu apes kalah jk vs Icuk Sugiarto di SF world cup 85,86 & di QF world champ 89
モルテンフロストの美しいバドミントン、チャオの豪快なバドミントン。当時学生だった私には、両極端ですがどちらも憧れでした。
この頃って、ネットにかけた方がシャトルを拾いに行くという、今のあまり好きじゃない暗黙のルールは無かったんですね。
zhao zianhua so good
Is it just me or is the picture stretched? Looks like the 4:3 TV recording has been encoded in 16:9
1985 but their style is quite new..
Modern smash and footwork created by zhao jianhua
赵剑华好强
hey do you have all england final 1986 when morten frost vs misbun sidek, i would really love to watch those
Did they ever change the shuttlecock?
Zhao is still my pick of badminton GOAT, period.
实在太强了。。。真是羽毛球的黄金时代。
赵建华技术很好
Frost was called Mr. Badminton because of his elegant playing style, I remember.
is it me or does zjh uses wrist flexion for most of his overhead shots?
Zhao Jianhua. not Zianhua
1986 match frost against misbun?
Who else did jump smashes like Zhao back in the 1980s?
Yang Yang
Zhao Jianhua's secret weapon is his deadly and deceptive overhead slice smash.
The world has changed indeed. Today we see more of mixed audiences than before.
and their shuttles last a lot longer, LOL, awesomeness.
What happened to the last shot? Frost just left it drop ?
当年的四大天王果然不是浪得虚名啊
Those were the years where players use their intelligence to play and when the game is over they shake hands like gentlemen, they have respect for each other. Now days the players don't have the sportsman quality in them.
Who are you referring to, please do not generalise every other fucking player because of one shitty player...
@@黎榮勝 most final winners these days do not shake the opponents hands right away after they won . The keyword is "final" . They might do the immediate hand-shaking after finishing their earlier rounds.
Hear about a classic three set match between Han Jian and Zhao Jian Hua at Swedish Open, where Han Jian prevailed. Anybody have the video of it?
if only Zhao master have the physical like lindan.. and bettersets of Lungs...
he will become the first GOAT,, i like his style more than lindan, though lindan is the best in men single history. period...
sad he is born with that disadvantages
he got sick...almost death not long after all england 1985. when back in competition his stamina cannot back like before.
yes you are right , Lin Dan is physically strong and his stamina is incredible compare to Zhao Jian Hua , Zhao has the immaculate and great skill
13:51 Dude, what a bad call. Jianhua didn't even move ... What a biased umpire.
Where is Gillian Clarke?
She was likely still a player and not yet a commentator
In the beginning of the video (1:59) they mentioned that she was playing in the mixed doubles final.
Superman
I remember an older Frost competed in a Danish tv special against other professional athletes, and crushing them in the cross country running discipline. Try to lower your screen to only watch his legs...
Why the average rallies were so low in height? Played so much like doubles in that era.
Jianhua look scary as a bdminton playerrr..no one is like him ths time i'm 7yr old
Badminton is much better than 45 yrs ago.
Si kidal zhao sngt kuat pukulan dropshot dn smas silang yg tajam.
Wow this is when Gillian Clark was still playing professionally too. The familiar commentating voice everyone hears during almost every important game ever now? Yup that's her
Did Frost gave up on the last rally?
***** No! Zhou's hairpin drop was probably so close to the net that he hesitated and then it was too late to recover.
Frost what a legend
Nice game
People claims that players were slow then, is like expecting Marathon runners running in a race as fast as Usain Bolt
King and Hariyanto Arbi maybe have powerfull straight smash but Zhao is the best in crossing smash. IMHO
Hariyanto Arbi is much better than King , since Yang Yang and Zhao Jian Hua retired , Hariyanto Arbi was rising in dominance for many years
All players of this kind of tournament surely so great, Indonesian's should realize with consistency and strong mentality, otherwise they will be loosers.
Zhao JianHua movement look sexy
Wtf only 2k for the champion ❗️😲😲
only enough to cover plane tickets, hotel, food, racket services cost .
以前的球好像比較耐打，這麼多拍也沒換球
Nice!
Really fast..
Zhao Jianhua = Combination Lin Dan and Kento Momota
The main difference to today´s players (apart from modern rackets, strings etc. and better physical abilities) is the amount of unforced errors. You would not see that many shots going out or into the net today from the world´s best players. And that despite the fact that the game is much faster today! That should not take anything away from the accomplishments of past champions - it´s just a statement of fact...
those are some short, shorts
The third set, setting to 5 was very confusing with the players serving out of the opposite boxes as per usual. Less confusing if the score was announced as ie: 16-14 instead of 3-1.
Morten Frost VS Zhau 👆👍
If these had consistency like lin dan and lee chong wei every point i think these legends could rival them