its so sad man, i love the champ (i even play him botlane now xd with good support) but he feels so ass, you need so much W hits in order to do any dmg....
I really don't think yone is nerfed. I tested a different yone build (before the bork nerf) Where you go PD BT and shield. The dps is higher at any point in the game except for first item where it's 5 dps less. At best I'd say he's slightly less good early game without bork.
when i read comments like yours i need something where i know your rank. i know a friend who is commenting like you and is silver ( not that you are) but i cant trust what randoms say one bit. too many low elo players are delusional
@@sretslad1781 how the fuck does my rank change the mathematical dps of items. And you think low elo players are delusional xdd. Anyway you can test it yourself, all I did was go into a practice room and use auto attacks and Q on a dummy, I used my E for a consistent time frame. It should be about 395 for bork and 390 for PD. After that BT and shield easily out dps the other build (stride and shield). Not to mention it reaches 100% crit at 3 items.
That was harsh.. PD contribute no damage, it's a DPS steroid to already potent damage and as first item it's negligible. Meanwhile Botrk is a massive damage boost, even outside of top lane. Dealing 10% Current Health damage averages to 5% Max Health over the entirety of the health bar. Essentially you got 5% Max Health on-hit. *The actual number is slightly lower. To a 1k health target, pre-mitigation, which is a low estimate at which point you have the item, that 5% on-hit passive alone equates to 50 on-hit damage, which has similar worth to an extra +50 AD for pure auto attack users. Remove the passive and you just bought an item with 40+50 AD, +25% Attack Speed, +10% Life Steal, a number for AD which exceed Infinity Edge. Mind you a Camille can easily strike 2k Health at level 11 with a Trinity Force, or a control mage with Rod Of Ages. Only advantage AD has over on-hit is the scaling it gives to the champions abilities. Mitigation has the same effect on AD as on on-hit of the same type (physical, magical, true).
@@boro6908 PD for Yone provides double crit vs every other champ, and CDR on his Q. It is 100% viable first item, as it has been for yasuo in the past, with a worse stat contribution than it has now mind you. Let's do some math as well while we're at it. PD gives Yone 50% crit. At level 11 with just a PD and berserk, Yone will have 1.69 AS vs BoRK at 1.32. I can't find the proper formula online, but I know Yone Q gets it's max cast time at 1.33s with 1.33 AS. At level 11 Tone has 72 AD, with 50% crit that 'equates' to 41 AD per auto. He also attacks 28% faster with PD. ~113AD at 1.69 ApS vs. 112AD +10% currentHP at 1.32 ApS 5 second (like his E) fight, autos only, we'd see: 8 complete autos with PD and only 6 complete autos with bork. A 30% DPS increase with PD without the on hit calculated yet. 904 vs 672 ("50" is what you said the on hit equates too soooo) 904 vs 972 is the final calculated. 72 less DPS with pd. But you also get 8%MS, augmented by Yone E, and have 50% crit making an IE after BT an even stronger power spike.
he is not. nemesis has something against the champion for some reason, probably been fisted by the likes of kaostanza and lurkz too much so his grasp on reality has been warped too much to form a logical thought regarding this champion.
Sivir Q buff is giga fake it's like +1 dmg at lvl 1 I'm convinced it's placebo buff so people buy more AD with her which will give her more winrate even though she is not better She can't even buy that much AD early anyway because they removed BF from ER and collector is a joke
kass is alrdy dogshit the way everyone still picks any ap champ into him, classik riot nerfing a champ mages have no issue playing into for a "counter" , only lowelo copers struggle vs this champ atm
@@HarpieLady683 yea immobile mages that dominate every meta and absolutely control lane ,perhaps don't type about anything when you are the type to run fleet second wind dshield mercs rush into rod and argue Kass is good vs mages as if u didn't invest 5k gold worth of runes and items to finally be the "counter" you clearly have no clue what you are typing about .
They look like pretty nice nerfs to Kaisa. Ezreal might get nerfed next patch since Kaisa is getting pushed out now. Jinx is not strong enough for nerfs and we also have arcane season 2 around the corner so if anything expect a buff.
@@radoslav2913 48% winrate is great for Ezreal. If he’s at 50% winrate, then he is overtuned/too strong. Some champions are inherently like this and Ezreal is definitely one of them considering he is probably the most difficult adc to play.
Yone/Hwei player complaining about Talon being ""overtuned". If nemesis had to play Talon only, he will barely reach master with it, his beta farm under tower for 2 items will not help him.
The funny part is that last time he cried abt talon, he was saying that you can afk farm with talon w under turret if you meet a counterpick. Like, no? You will run out of mana faster than I can say cuckold, PLUS that would be counteractive to talons snowball playstyle, how are you supposed to snowball whilst afk farming? I don't understand this guy man, he's a former pro with this mega stupid opinion
You can afk farm with Talon, doesnt mean that the enemy midlaner will magically not take every roam timer that is given to them for free and snowball better
@@k1ng298 he is simply spitting facts. The only people that cries over talon are people who play overtuned control mages etc and are shit in the game. When people like that would need to play talon they would suck af and be literally walking minion
amazing work Riot, already reduced amount of cdr for mages, but also increase Hwei's E cd, only way to survive assassins all-in. And also nerf sorcs, cool.
She's still fine, you should never pick xayah regardless of conditions and she should never be a blind pick. Its literally THE anti engage champion with ult and her E. Also most meta adcs got nerfed recently so she is a little bit better compared to the competition last patch, adcs are kinda fucked in general though so it doesn't help
Brand has a 47.42% win rate in support in master+ globally, he has a 50.45% win rate in jungle in master+ globally. Mean while the other 39 champs that play support the have higher win rates are not getting nerfed. I just think RITO only want brand to be played in jungle and fuck everyone who enjoys playing the champ in mid or support. So glad I quit the cesspit that is LoL balance team.
why are you looking at master+ sp and jg only? Brand adc has 55% winrate all ranks, and brand sp has 53% winrate all ranks, also in master+ brand ADC has 52% winrate, also this nerf was said to be primarily for China This is not a RITO balance moment this is just you being low IQ moment
These statistics don’t include China which Phreak said in his video is the reason for Brand nerfs he is very overtuned. It’s like the random blitzcrank neerfs we keep getting
Qiyana as a mid laner just needs more range on q. Obviously nerf her in other areas or maybe rework her into a top laner. Makes way more sense with the brushes.
The hwei nerfs are so placebo its insane, 1/100 games will you end up dying because his e has 1 second longer cooldown and anyone who is using qq enough to notice the change likely shouldn't be play the champion to begin with. People auto pilot and build completely wrong and then say they can't carry on him. Its like yeah if you buy liandrys/balefire unironically deserve to lose, ludens->horizon->void/stormsurge/shadowflame->deathcap/situation dependent.
I really dont think you understand how a cooldown nerf affect how a champion works, also your build analysis is just straight up wrong because blackfire-Liandries has a 2% higher winrate than Ludens-horizon You sound really smart but your analysis level is like a silver egirl
@@jelellyy 1 second is not alot on a spell your almost never using on cooldown and that 1 second nerf becomes a .6 second nerf at 1.5 items which is not even noticeable at all. It would probably only be noticeable if it was 3+ secound nerf because then you could argue you might not get to use it twice in skirmishes. If you need to use hwei e on cooldown your bad at the champion.
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The fiddle nerf is non existent
Will see how bad it really is, since it is the non-skill ability in the kit
they fucking killed him
KAYLE SUPROT INCOMING
Ardent censer tech I can see it
It will still be pretty weak. Problem is, the heal is too small and the cooldown is too long.
Not touching trash azir until riot gets serious about making him playable
its so sad man, i love the champ (i even play him botlane now xd with good support) but he feels so ass, you need so much W hits in order to do any dmg....
@@wrystandata5318 I think he might be the worst champion in the early game, like I cant think of a champion weaker than him early game
I really don't think yone is nerfed.
I tested a different yone build (before the bork nerf)
Where you go PD BT and shield.
The dps is higher at any point in the game except for first item where it's 5 dps less.
At best I'd say he's slightly less good early game without bork.
when i read comments like yours i need something where i know your rank.
i know a friend who is commenting like you and is silver ( not that you are) but i cant trust what randoms say one bit.
too many low elo players are delusional
@@sretslad1781 how the fuck does my rank change the mathematical dps of items.
And you think low elo players are delusional xdd.
Anyway you can test it yourself, all I did was go into a practice room and use auto attacks and Q on a dummy, I used my E for a consistent time frame.
It should be about 395 for bork and 390 for PD.
After that BT and shield easily out dps the other build (stride and shield).
Not to mention it reaches 100% crit at 3 items.
That was harsh..
PD contribute no damage, it's a DPS steroid to already potent damage and as first item it's negligible.
Meanwhile Botrk is a massive damage boost, even outside of top lane.
Dealing 10% Current Health damage averages to 5% Max Health over the entirety of the health bar. Essentially you got 5% Max Health on-hit. *The actual number is slightly lower.
To a 1k health target, pre-mitigation, which is a low estimate at which point you have the item, that 5% on-hit passive alone equates to 50 on-hit damage, which has similar worth to an extra +50 AD for pure auto attack users. Remove the passive and you just bought an item with 40+50 AD, +25% Attack Speed, +10% Life Steal, a number for AD which exceed Infinity Edge.
Mind you a Camille can easily strike 2k Health at level 11 with a Trinity Force, or a control mage with Rod Of Ages. Only advantage AD has over on-hit is the scaling it gives to the champions abilities. Mitigation has the same effect on AD as on on-hit of the same type (physical, magical, true).
@@boro6908 PD for Yone provides double crit vs every other champ, and CDR on his Q. It is 100% viable first item, as it has been for yasuo in the past, with a worse stat contribution than it has now mind you.
Let's do some math as well while we're at it. PD gives Yone 50% crit. At level 11 with just a PD and berserk, Yone will have 1.69 AS vs BoRK at 1.32. I can't find the proper formula online, but I know Yone Q gets it's max cast time at 1.33s with 1.33 AS. At level 11 Tone has 72 AD, with 50% crit that 'equates' to 41 AD per auto. He also attacks 28% faster with PD.
~113AD at 1.69 ApS
vs.
112AD +10% currentHP at 1.32 ApS
5 second (like his E) fight, autos only, we'd see:
8 complete autos with PD and only 6 complete autos with bork. A 30% DPS increase with PD without the on hit calculated yet.
904 vs 672 ("50" is what you said the on hit equates too soooo)
904 vs 972 is the final calculated. 72 less DPS with pd. But you also get 8%MS, augmented by Yone E, and have 50% crit making an IE after BT an even stronger power spike.
@@Dhoulmegus You are ignoring details. For the sake argument we consider the low estimate of extra 50 "on-hit" damage, it could also be 100 (against 2k health).
Then the stats attributed to Yone at level 11 are:
Yone Level 11, PD:
Damage = 77.55
Attack Speed Bonus = 30.71+60 = 90.71
Attack Speed Ratio = 0.625
Crit Damage = 1.75*0.9 = 1.575
Crit Chance = 50%
Estimated DPS = (77.55+77.55*0.575*0.5)*(0.625*1.9071) = 119
Yone Level 11, BorTk:
Damage = 77.55 + 40 + 50
Attack Speed Bonus = 30.71+25 = 55.71
Attack Speed Ratio = 0.625
Crit Damage = 1.75*0.9 = 1.575
Crit Chance = 0%
Estimated DPS = (77.55+40+50)*(0.625*1.5571) = 163
Realistically BorTk will contribute more, against Camille, Trinity Force, Health Runes she easily has 2000 HP. Now the on-hit does 100 extra.
Or Cassiopeia with Rod Of Ages.
The numbers are now:
Yone Level 11, BorTk:
Damage = 77.55 + 40 + 100*
Attack Speed Bonus = 30.71+25 = 55.71
Attack Speed Ratio = 0.625
Crit Damage = 1.75*0.9 = 1.575
Crit Chance = 0%
Estimated DPS = (77.55+40+100)*(0.625*1.5571) = 211
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This man talked about Hwei like it was his girl that just found out was cheating on him
must be nice to enjoy league at its core to be able to drop champs that easy
No idea what you mean by this, everyone plays a champ differently and some people would still play Hwei with a 15 second E CD
Just have to have the skills to play most champs in the game.
Next patch better fix assassins 😂
5:59 who is gonna hit rank 1?
kaostanza
Seeing asol on the Nerf block again is just sad lol
not really lol
So where is the acual azir buff????
you will look along time for this my friend, i have given up already..... th4ese mofos......
When is Olaf getting buffed
Wow Irelia will keep her 45%wr ty riot
But how is talon gonna be over tuned with these buffs tho
he is not. nemesis has something against the champion for some reason, probably been fisted by the likes of kaostanza and lurkz too much so his grasp on reality has been warped too much to form a logical thought regarding this champion.
They buffed trade + all in + wave clear all at once , also really good for talon jungle
they removed my comment but he wont be overtuned, neme is only mad because he gets fisted by talon otps in high elo euw (lurkz, kaostanza etc)
Can someone explain why the community want more lore characters to join lol?
Idk
Itd be better if the current roster of characters had lore
Not the community that plays this game for sure 😁
@@magnov983 every character, except shaco and rammus, have quite a lot of lore.
Nerfing tank killers? Yeah they're definitely not enforcing the 12th tank meta
Sivir Q buff is giga fake it's like +1 dmg at lvl 1 I'm convinced it's placebo buff so people buy more AD with her which will give her more winrate even though she is not better
She can't even buy that much AD early anyway because they removed BF from ER and collector is a joke
kass is alrdy dogshit the way everyone still picks any ap champ into him, classik riot nerfing a champ mages have no issue playing into for a "counter" , only lowelo copers struggle vs this champ atm
The inmovile mages aint the ones defeating him but their teammates. Kass might just be dogsht on ur hands
Low masta
@@HarpieLady683 kassa is legit only strong in lowelo?
@@HarpieLady683 Kassadin is legit only strong on Maligance and then he gets outscaled by basicaly every champ
@@HarpieLady683 yea immobile mages that dominate every meta and absolutely control lane ,perhaps don't type about anything when you are the type to run fleet second wind dshield mercs rush into rod and argue Kass is good vs mages as if u didn't invest 5k gold worth of runes and items to finally be the "counter" you clearly have no clue what you are typing about .
I think hwei fits much better in bot than mid hes way to jungle dependent mid but bot lane hes super safe and fulfills same/similar role as brand adc.
hes either good in both or shit in both, really depends on the champions hes versing
noo the ksante bug
No Ezreal buffs, no Jinx nerfs. That Kai'Sa nerf is a joke, she needs more nerfs than that.
They look like pretty nice nerfs to Kaisa. Ezreal might get nerfed next patch since Kaisa is getting pushed out now. Jinx is not strong enough for nerfs and we also have arcane season 2 around the corner so if anything expect a buff.
@@The_Lightless Ezreal got gutted a couple of patches in a row even though he sits at 48% win rate for a while now. idk what you're talking about
@@radoslav2913 48% winrate is great for Ezreal. If he’s at 50% winrate, then he is overtuned/too strong. Some champions are inherently like this and Ezreal is definitely one of them considering he is probably the most difficult adc to play.
@@radoslav2913Yeah a skillshot champion surely should have a 50% wr xddd
Yone/Hwei player complaining about Talon being ""overtuned". If nemesis had to play Talon only, he will barely reach master with it, his beta farm under tower for 2 items will not help him.
What are u saying man XDD
The funny part is that last time he cried abt talon, he was saying that you can afk farm with talon w under turret if you meet a counterpick. Like, no? You will run out of mana faster than I can say cuckold, PLUS that would be counteractive to talons snowball playstyle, how are you supposed to snowball whilst afk farming? I don't understand this guy man, he's a former pro with this mega stupid opinion
You can afk farm with Talon, doesnt mean that the enemy midlaner will magically not take every roam timer that is given to them for free and snowball better
@@k1ng298 he is simply spitting facts. The only people that cries over talon are people who play overtuned control mages etc and are shit in the game. When people like that would need to play talon they would suck af and be literally walking minion
@@s4gur0 the part about nemesis that he would be hardstuck master playing talon only is not a funny joke
wtf he's talking about nodoby use brand as support so long ago, people only him as jg or apc
China does phreak whent over it In china Brand is the second best sup and is pick banned
Fix assasins ffs i been waiting for a buff so i can play the damn game the items are shit
Sorc nerf and botrk ranged nerf 😭😭
amazing work Riot, already reduced amount of cdr for mages, but also increase Hwei's E cd, only way to survive assassins all-in. And also nerf sorcs, cool.
How r u complaining about mages 😅
Play Syndra and stop complaining
Delusional mage players nothing new here
Bro is really complaining about hwei e cd 🤡
That Xayah buff is a joke. She has been weak for so long. Only decent in pro play just because of her ult
She got buffed indirectly by ER change and some other adc champs got nerfed so she will be a good counter pick champ
Good xayah meta is miserable to play
She's still fine, you should never pick xayah regardless of conditions and she should never be a blind pick. Its literally THE anti engage champion with ult and her E.
Also most meta adcs got nerfed recently so she is a little bit better compared to the competition last patch, adcs are kinda fucked in general though so it doesn't help
Xayah is still strong against melees. Sure she may suffer in lane but she ain't weak.
thank god no one likes xayah meta, she’s good if you counterpick
Where are my Rengar buffs
High elo otps make him work why cant you?
@@doffy5394 his win rate is 48% bud. Any OTP can make any champ shine
@@angrykook1 otp kassadin cant no longer ;/ champ completely thrash
@@angrykook1 look kassadin otps dont smile
@angrykook1 be an OTP then. If youre not, then its not "your Rengar" its the OTPs
Brand has a 47.42% win rate in support in master+ globally, he has a 50.45% win rate in jungle in master+ globally. Mean while the other 39 champs that play support the have higher win rates are not getting nerfed. I just think RITO only want brand to be played in jungle and fuck everyone who enjoys playing the champ in mid or support. So glad I quit the cesspit that is LoL balance team.
Screw that champion he was super broken for a long time. Deserved *spits*
Ok bye
why are you looking at master+ sp and jg only? Brand adc has 55% winrate all ranks, and brand sp has 53% winrate all ranks, also in master+ brand ADC has 52% winrate, also this nerf was said to be primarily for China
This is not a RITO balance moment this is just you being low IQ moment
These statistics don’t include China which Phreak said in his video is the reason for Brand nerfs he is very overtuned. It’s like the random blitzcrank neerfs we keep getting
@@EzOddz nothing says broken like no dashes, no heals, no true damage. no way to get over walls, no way to break and ignore CC.
Qiyana as a mid laner just needs more range on q. Obviously nerf her in other areas or maybe rework her into a top laner.
Makes way more sense with the brushes.
If she were top would she have a bruiser build or would she build like Jayce
The hwei nerfs are so placebo its insane, 1/100 games will you end up dying because his e has 1 second longer cooldown and anyone who is using qq enough to notice the change likely shouldn't be play the champion to begin with. People auto pilot and build completely wrong and then say they can't carry on him. Its like yeah if you buy liandrys/balefire unironically deserve to lose, ludens->horizon->void/stormsurge/shadowflame->deathcap/situation dependent.
1 second is a lot
@jelellyy not if you need to use the ability only once, and you have transcendence
I really dont think you understand how a cooldown nerf affect how a champion works,
also your build analysis is just straight up wrong because blackfire-Liandries has a 2% higher winrate than Ludens-horizon
You sound really smart but your analysis level is like a silver egirl
@@jelellyy 1 second is not alot on a spell your almost never using on cooldown and that 1 second nerf becomes a .6 second nerf at 1.5 items which is not even noticeable at all. It would probably only be noticeable if it was 3+ secound nerf because then you could argue you might not get to use it twice in skirmishes. If you need to use hwei e on cooldown your bad at the champion.
@@Zemilia22 Haste & cds matter a lot in skirmishes and team fights.
Still no Akshan buff. Absolutely tragic he needs love desperately just like most AD assassins.
One game i play Camile and they decided to nerf her ahh fuuu this shii