Benny Morris Answers 18 Questions on Israel, Gaza, & the Future of the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- If you want to understand Israel, then you need to know Benny Morris.
Prof. Benny Morris is a leading Israeli historian who revolutionized the field of Israeli history by digging into the government’s declassified archives in the ‘80s, ushering in the era of “New Historians” who challenged traditional views of Israel’s history. After peace talks failed and the Second Intifada began in the early 2000s, his views drastically shifted regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict-specifically its prospects for resolution. Praised and criticized across the political divide, Benny Morris’ work lies at the bedrock of Israeli history today.
Now, he sits down with us to answer 18 questions on Israel, including what should happen with Gaza after the war, Palestinian-Israeli peace prospects, whether the IDF is the world’s most moral army, and so much more.
This interview was held on June 10.
Here are some of our 18 questions:
1. As an Israeli, and as a Jew, how are you feeling at this moment in Israeli history?
2. What has been Israel’s greatest success and greatest mistake in its war against Hamas?
3. How do you think Hamas views the outcome and aftermath of October 7-was it a success, in their eyes?
4. What do you look for in deciding which Knesset party to vote for?
5. Which is more important for Israel: Judaism or democracy?
6. Is opposing Zionism inherently antisemitic?
7. Is the IDF the world’s most moral army?
8. What do you think is the most legitimate criticism leveled against Israel today?
9. Do you think peace between Israelis and Palestinians will happen within your lifetime?
10. What should happen with Gaza and the Palestinian-Israeli Conflict after the war?
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I love Benny Morris ! Right now I am reading “Righteous Victims”. Such an insightful book ! A master piece ! Thank you so much for your hard work, professor Morris !
“Righteous Victims” is probably the best book to understand the high level what's going on
@@lequdindoquede78 Yes ! And unlike some other “new historians”, Benny Morris knows how NOT to project the past on the present day Israel. Today’s Israelis are not responsible and should not be punished for what their ancestors did. No one has the right to judge or hate the Israelis for what their forefathers did. A solution must be found on the basis of today’s reality. That’s what I like about Benny Morris !
Anything on the final century of the Ottoman Empire is good also to understand the area.
An uncomfortable but honest talk with a man who knows more about the sad past and current events than most of us
Most?
He’s a great man. He’s been my number one source for a long time, and this interview is terrific. Good to see so many supportive voices in the comments section.
There can be many sides, but only one truth. With Benny, it is as close to the truth as it gets.
Thank you. Professor Morris is such an important voice on Israeli thought. It doesn’t matter if you agree with him or not. One has to respect that he is driven by facts, appreciates that most issues have more than one side or interpretation, and that few things are black and white. I wish more historians, politicians, and ordinary people had his level of objectivity.
I really appreciated the justice/injustice and durability/non durability equation Professor Morris offered (around min 13)
The GOAT
Mr. Morris is a serious fellow with a distinguished set of publications. Claiming that the Israeli government-led initiative to try and reform one of the most powerful judiciary classes in the democratic world by partially limiting its reach to act beyond Israeli law while stating that such a reform was endangering Israel's democracy is so far-fetched that it could rightfully be defined as obscure.
What Israel needs is a Bill of Rights and a constitution. Israel has Basic Laws that be changed by a simple majority in parliament. It's absurd for a western style democracy. It should have been changed in the 1960s
It's a very politically biased opinion. To say that netanyahu is corrupt is very contentious.
oh give me a break he was limiting the unchecked power of the judiciary. you guys need a constitution.
Exactly. But don't try telling truth to naive foreigners.
Benni believing in 2 state nightmare & calling Netanyahu government idiots is deeply ironic
Well Netanyahu supporting Hamas up until 10/7 was the definition of idiocy .
Over the past 50 years.
Read 'Empty Wagon ' by Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro.
Read 'General's son' by Miko Peled.
Avi Shlaim books.
Ilan Pappe books.
Norman Finkelstein books.
You've just revealed yourself to be naive or a hater.
Pappe is a disgraced student. Finkelstein is a Maoist. Peled is fighting Oedipal issues.
I don't know much middle east history but ,his remarks made me want to ask ,why compare the numbers of Arabs/Muslim states to establish a total Jewish/for Jews state..
Idk if this is a real person or a bot. If anyone reads this Israel is the only democratic state in the entire Middle East & the only safe place for Jews Muslims Christian’s Druze & any other minority.
@@Rexident97it’s not a democracy and even if it is- who cares!!! Still doesn’t give the Jews a right to steal and kill and expulse and apart-heid and torture
I wish more people would just listen to Benny Morris. A non-peace is likely to exist for yet another half century. Instead of inventing myths somehow based on a past that never was everyone should indeed try behave moderate and accept reality instead
Moderate. That's what the Arabs have On mind for israelis. Like rape, burning whole families alive, etc. So what can Israel d o? What would any country do, but go into Gaza and take care of this finally.
The end of the video Benny is pessimistic about the zionist enterprise. He says settlement activity will go on and these will lead to the demise of the Jewish state. This is based on the demise of the crusader state in medieval times.
I believe Benny Morris doesn't think Israel will last another 50 years. He referred to the Arab street belief that Sinwa is the new Saladin. Implying that Israel will last only 88 years or around 2038. Netanyahu is too dumb to realise this. It's only how much damage Israel will cause in the region before it dissappear. However Jews will continue to live and prosper in the region.
FREE PALESTINE PEOPLE AND LAND FROM RIVER TO THE SEA
Bennet for PM.
One simple question of historical importance ? How and to what degree was Netanyahu involved directly or indirectly in the assassination of the only Israeli prime Minister that tried to broker a peace deal with the Palestinians?
If your’e asking directly, there’s zero evidence for it. But some claim that the protests against the Oslo agreements that he sometimes lead were calling to violence against Rabin to some degree.
Crapola
Regarding 'Judeasim or democracy? Oh, I'm not sure I can answer that. LOL.
As usual, no answers just criticisms.
FREE USA PEOPLE AND LAND FROM ZIONEST
I like Benny but the begining is so bad I won't be watching.
He said that the judicial reform, which almost half of the population supported, took the army's attention, as if the army's roll in a democratic society is to adrees political decisions.
The army is the main responsible because it neglected it's main roll in order to do politics and help the demonstrations and the people who choose hetzi for the job.
Netanyahu is incompetent in his position. That’s what he says, and it is the sad truth !
The ‘Judicial reform’ did not have even 50% support. Likud didn’t put it as a primary election subject.
@@Yara-Lilies lies and more lies are you not tired already??
Is there a "Palestinian Benny Morris"?
Actually, a thousand times better, I.e. Norman Finklestein
@@mohammadsufiyaan5330lies. Finklestien literally debated Morris on his own books and wouldn’t accept Morris description of what he wrote!
Finkelstein is not palestinian.
@@beniluv3250 Yes, he's not!
@@oyeahjustcomenting Can u be a bit specific or a link pls?
FREE WESTERN LEADER ARAB LEADER MUSLIM LEADERS AND WORLD FROM ZIONEST
One simple question for a historian of the state of Israel. Is it true that the IDF needed and used 355 bullets to take the life of Hind Rajab,a 6 year old girl trapped in a car ?
😂😂😂😂😂
No, it isn't true. They didn't use all that just for her. They killed a bunch of her family members and some paramedics as well. The soldiers involved should have been court-martialed and imprisoned. Sadly, to date, they haven't been. A travesty of justice.
What is the purpose of your question? To show that IDF personnel are actually human beings who sometimes make horrible and stupid decisions? Maybe, just maybe, if hamas and the PA policed their own people appropriately and didn't perpetrate and/or promote acts of t err or against Israeli citizens, Israel wouldn't have to step in and put its soldiers in positions to make such horrible decisions. Maybe, just maybe, if Palestinians were as outraged about civilians getting un alived by people claiming to act on their behalf as you and I are about Palestinian civilians getting needlessly un alived by Israeli soldiers, we wouldn't be having this discussion right now. We might not even be having this war. How about we get equally outraged when Israeli civilians get K? How about we hold all the people involved to the same moral standard? Can we try that?
More Arab propaganda lies
Yes. It was the 355th that did the trick.
Of course not. But you know that don’t you Putin.
No solutions form this comedian.....😂😂😂
Most of Israelis were killed by IDF and Hamas never fire a single shot on medical evocative vehicles and helicopters. Otherwise no issue with what this gentleman says.
Probably about 40 to 50 killed by IDF. What people don't talk about, though, is that Hamas killed a lot of soldiers.
Most? You love dead,Jews no matter who does it, eh?
Benny can name all the faults but has yet to find a solution. Typical.
He says "killing Israeli civilians is not a problem for Hamas fighters, they don't have the same morals as people in the west".. Excuse-me but the Israeli army and Israelis in general don't have any problem with killing Palestinian civilians either, they killed way more Palestinian civilians than Hamas ever did, and what morals do they have destroying Gaza the way they do, bombing indiscriminately day and night without respite, killing children, women, first responders, aid workers, journalists, doctors, cutting off water, electricity, and food supplies, annihilating schools, universities, hospitals, mosques, churches, homes, turning Gaza into an inhabitable place, where are the morals in all that?
Why don't you call for release of the hostages???? None of these deaths would have happened if the world and 'moral' people like you had called for what was moral and right on 8th October. You are complicit!
RUclips deleted my comment re. Speaking up for release of hostages
That's why Ilan Pappe is a better historian than Morris. Pappe speaks the truth about how Israelis have behaved for 100 years.
@@bobbygabriel9574 It's the first interview I've watched with Benny Morris and I was disappointed. Anyone demeaning Hamas for their act while sparing the Israeli army for their acts, is not objective. For a historian, not to be objective is a lacking. I agree, Ilan Pappé says it the way it is and isn't biased. Morris's statement that Hamas don't have the same morals as other people, says that he regards them as the barbaric bad ones, below people in the West -the good ones. How racist and simplistic! If he weren't biased he would have regarded the Israeli army's acts in Gaza equally immoral.
think he means more the moral concept of if people believe it's a bad thing when enemy civilians are killed - Most Israelis think it's bad when enemy civilians are killed, and the people who don't believe this - the crazy sorts who genuinely believe 'theres no innocents in Gaza' or whatever - will at least pretend to care in the rhetoric they use. The government positions are all of course on their surface, a value in the loss of civilian life.... and it shocked me to learn of this but like... none of that is true for Palestinians living in Gaza or the occupied West Bank. You can and should go check out polling done by the PCPSR (Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research) - it's a pro-Palestinian and mostly Palestinian operated group - and it's... like I almost don't want to say since it sounds hard to believe but like... it's REALLY clear from the polling that Palestinians in both Gaza and the West Bank do not view the deaths of Israeli civilians as a bad thing. Less than 2% think Hamas committed any atrocities on Oct 7th, both in Gaza and the West Bank... so it can't be explained by fear of reprisal...
Anyways check it out, it's really eye opening for a more western audience who is thinking about it as though these are like... the US and Canada or something lol
Compared to the work of Ilan Pappe and Norman Finkelstein, this is a cockroach level of historicizing.
You're funny. Finkelstein is a sociopath.
Pappe? Google him and Haifa,university. He concocted data.
No dude. Those guys are just bitter old soviets who are happy to throw the west under the bust for their ideology. I don’t think they even believe what they are saying… just that they want the revolution as much as y’all think you want the caliphate…
Lilmi 2246
This Historian heart is biased like most of the Munafiqeens Yahoodi sitting among Sahabas as Hypocrites.Sitting this side and thinking more about other's side watching which turn the standing Camel sits - Left or Right so He will be able to extracts his benefits more.
The hypocrites are the ones who think it’s fine and dandy to murder random people because you have a grievance from 4 generations ago. 🤦♀
Stop acting like stroppy adolescents, and start taking actual responsibility for what you’re doing. Mob violence is the most base level form of bullying there is. Y’all should have called that shit out a loooong time ago… The planet isn’t going to handle this shit. The winners will end up with nothing but rubble and three eyed frogs. There is no audience when you murder everyone… and we all know that after the Jews it’s the Christians, then the other heathens… what do you call us? The English colonisers called us the heathens .. you have your own word for the people you’re imperialising.. oh, infidels.. that’s right.. same shit really.
Anyway, after the infidels we all know that the sectarian wars start… then you kill pff everyone but your family tribal group.. then what? Matricide? Patricide?
Can we just please leave that shit behind? And just make the most of our time here? And if Islam is so great, you’ll be able to demonstrate that to us right?without having to murder everyone..
Such one sided views
Ok Ismail, go back to your tent. Don't forget your rusty 47' 😂
Can you provide Arab archive documents? He’s live to read it.
@@thekneidlachengineer6038 your correct but no need to be rascist on the other hand im thinking the same thing about him ...strange to call such a brave well balanced historian like benny Morris that is honest both about what mistakes his side as well as his enemies side has made
@@ashley-fk6dpA spicy joke is no racism. I'm waiting to find a so-called pali or moosie able to be balanced and well informed. Freedom of expresion is for them freedom of aggression against Israel. Big difference
@@Yara-LiForget it. Only in democracies...