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Curious about the training programs of #HYBE #SM #YG #JYP? In this video, we break down the key differences between the training programs of these top K-pop labels.
The more Hybe is under the microscope, the more it is showcased for its decency and smarts. It gets my vote- hands down.
When people say that Hybe was built by BTS, most people only think of it in terms of money. But I actually believe it is more than that. I genuinely believe that BTS is now the template for every artist under Hybe. So, the formula basically starts with a clear concept, works together with the artist, and then the artist's independence. The company provides everything from the song to the choreo at the start of the group's career, but will gradually take a step back and let the artist control their own craft. That's why each BTS member has such a distinct individual musical identity.
I don't know about other groups, but this is also the case with Le Sserafim. They are still in the working together phase right now, but their Performance Director has said in an interview before that her goal is for the girls to be able to create their own choreo one day. That's why she's constantly giving them everything she has and encouraging the girls to discuss any ideas that they may have and incorporate those ideas into the choreo whenever possible.
The same thing about the music as well. There have been multiple instances where the lyrics were changed based on the member's suggestion. The most recent one was with 1-800. I believe the original lyrics were "Where the heck is Becky?", The members thought that the name felt out of place, so Sakura suggested changing it to her nickname "Saki" so that the song could be truly about them without having to break the rhymes and the rhythm of the original lyric.
Yes Le Sserafim does have a diverse discography and they are involved in the development of concepts which also goes into the music. In their Zach Sang interview they said they start out early on with meetings with Source to see what emotions they are feeling and experiences they currently have which becomes the start of the concepts and music. All members have been involved in some lyrical writing and as many know Yunjin has been more involved in writing and producing.
What I appreciate about HYBE is that they try to put their artists’ stories into their music so when they perform it feels genuine. I’m sure it started on from BTS and has been used for most of the groups now and no one does concepts the way HYBE labels does. Txt has done so many different ones, Enhypen are vampires and &team are the werewolves and their stories even connect. I think all the groups that bang pd are involved in have a connection in their lore. It’s great story telling and keeps fans engaged.
Also love how HYBE supports their artists to be involved in writing, producing and even choreo/stage ideas
I would love to join hybe 100%
Hybe lets you grow
I am ARMY and have lately been going down the rabbit hole with GOT7. I love their genuine brotherhood. The Korean parents will take care of the foreign members as their own.
The small 3 and the BIG 1 😂
I like it better then saying the Big 4, that always rubbed me the wrong way tbh cuz as much success as BTS & Hybe have had they've always been the outsider in Korea's Elite kpop industry and I think people are not aware of the links many have in certain labels when it comes to the Korean government etc.
Precisely. HYBE is on another level even though it doesn't have the power over the media and music industry that the other 3 have.
For me, Hybe definitely seems like the better company. They're not perfect but they're definitely different from the others.
I would join Hybe
I’m in my late 50s and love the variety of Stray kids. Also would choose JYP! HYBE did not throw out the member of Katseye when she failed to attend classes etc she got picked instead.
Hybe hands up
Pledis entertainment producer bumzu owns his own company prismfiler. Artists under pledis entertainment and koz entertainment use the producers, composer, songwriter and creative team in callobation. Since before hybe brought them. Hybe keep the original partnership.
BSH is looking for artists, not just performers.
Last summer youtube offered me a Korean variety show (the channel was Popcorn or similar spelling) that filmed at HYBE building on June 12th.
Curious the MC asked what HYBE is searching for in their people:
PAT
- Passion
- Autonomy
- Trust
I found that interesting.
Plus each label under hybe are also looking for different talents.
Yeah I don’t call them big4 either 😂 I call them big 3 and HYBE especially since big3 Stans wanted to exclude HYBE which is fine they can be their own category
I agree with this it's always rubbed me the wrong way because BTS & Hybe have always been the outsiders and are not part of the Elite Kpop industry that has powerful connections in media and even in the Korean government.
I call Hybe Big 1
XG is really really good, if they can get a strong market push in the US and keep the momentum, I can see them being really big globally.
I didn't know Taeyeon was with SM. I like her! But I would choose Hybe. I like the idea that they value dedication to the craft and would place you in a group that would fit you rather than force you to fit in a role you don't belong. Second would be JYP, because the owner seems nice. Third would be YG, because I like their sound and I happen to like their style. SM is last, because I'm not big on being forced into a role forever. Also they have way too many lawsuits against them to make me feel comfortable that I would be treated fairly.
bighit ent for me
Поддерживаю действия Хайб. Надо идти вперёд и не останавливаться на достигнутом, продвигать свои идеи и музыку, и не оглядываться, что думают и какие палки в колеса вставляют свои же корейцы в стране.Не ценят и стараются разрушить свою же индустрию, самую влиятельную и сильную компанию- удивительное отношение.
Interesting discussion, thank you!
On a side note, I don't understand people saying Stray Kids don't have a diverse discography - have the people saying this not listened to any albums - just title tracks? Could be just a question of taste, I guess, but I'll just say it's not generational - Stray Kids have a lot of older fans (50 and up), myself included. Anyway, each to his own.
More relevant to the topic, I have a question: does Hybe actually have a unified trainee program, or is it done by sub-label, and if so, how do they differ, and do they ever exchange trainees? I'm curious.
People who say that about stray kids aren’t even credible. They have done different genres but they do focus more on edm as they’ve said that which is fine because that’s the music they want to make.
SM really is the worst. To their own idols too
I think for HYBE they do swap trainees or when making a group allow the idols to change within reason under different sub labels like some Enhypen members were bighit then went to belift, Boynextdoor Taesan was under source before he changed to koz, Yunjin from Le Sserafim was with pledis then put with source music trainees when the labels were acquired and left then came back to source so I think some of them do sort of share
@@melisme27
I think that missunderstanding with SKZ comes from the title tracks/MVs being mostly the same genre even as the rest in not.
HYBE posted - was it last spring ? - T&D (Training and Develpment) clips of ca 10 minutes each. RM was a guest and so where a few other Idols.
I found it interesting.
So just scroll a little on their youtube channel.
@@rhinocesaurus22 just adding that also Jihoon from TWS was a Bighit trainee in Trainee A and then when the project was scrapped which is wild because they had over a million subscribers on YT he was moved to Pledis and debuted with TWS
@@ruthfischer7615 Yes, that's exactly what I thought at first because of the MVs. I tend to like their other songs more than the MVs most of the time especially recently.
What JYP did to GOT7 was hard to digest
Got7 should have been marketed better. They made more money touring outside of Korea. From Hard Carrier they could have had a bigger career. Look at them now, they own their band name and brand while working a solo career. Happy for them and Proud of them.
Remember pledis entertainment, koz entertainment and ador have no lore. Bang pd doesn't produce groups in these labels
Hybes ❤❤❤
There was a group of jype group in USA which sued the label. One of them at least for bad treatment, or work place abuse.
Yeah vcha
If I am really Raw, I would rather learn with JYP first but if I have a bit more experience or at least have more training before being a trainee, i would go with HYBE since I get to develop my training.
JYP treated Felix and Minho poorly in order to get more views. Dropping them and tearing out Bang Chan's heart (he has so much separation anxiety) And then allowing the audience to vote them back it? Got7 wasn't supported by him in their last to years with JYP. Nope don't like him and I wish he'd stop dancing and singing with his stars, so cringey. SM seems to be the worst. and I'm new to KPop but they seem to really treat their people badly. Watching ILand and &Audition, you can clearly see how fond Bang Si-Hyuk is of finding and nurturing talent. He's going to debut a few members that didn't make it in $Audition in his new all Japanese group this month. So Hybe is the best to me
I would do better with HYBE because I am disobedient and self-motivated. I think they need more emphasis on prevention of injury to voice and in dance training. I think 'safety first' to keep the careers on track for the long haul.
You do know they have vocals coaches. The vocals coaches that work with hybe also work with sm entertainment.
Bighit entertainment original vocals coaches worked with jyp.
@@nicoleloss7987 I do know that, but Jimin has said he was straining his voice and had to go back to a coach and start over to learn how to not strain when singing. I think that is a problem when young artists are allowed to only take the classes they think they need. I think there are other Hybe artists that could use a bit more coaching to learn to sing and dance with less chance of injury
@@CeciJosa yes, jimin admitted that but wasn't it due to financial constraints? he said he learned how to sing by sitting outside the studio during jk's vocal classes. maybe the priority was jk at the time because he showed the biggest potential in vocals as a trainee? i also don't think jimin would be one to take classes only when he felt like he needed to
@@sudi-z8e Jimin's training period was the shortest so I'm sure there were extenuating circumstances. I like Hybes emphasis on independence but they could do a better job of guiding artists toward practices that will help them to preserve their bodies and voices. Jimin certainly would take classes he needs, but we do not always know what we don't know. That should be a primary concern for companies and I hope the new BigHit CEO will help with this since that is her background. Suga was taking dance lessons when he had time so they are starting to go back and fill in gaps in their training.
They have training. They have guidance by vocals coaches.
Hybe training video explaines everything.
They are not alone . A vocals or dance coache is always with them for practice.
I would join Hybe becarse it shows that they give there idols a chance to test themself and have a finger in there doing but it seems the other are more you do as we want you to do or your out exept for straykids, that's sad to be treated like a product that they try to fit in that you as a person and traine are thrown from here to there and not knowing do I ever see the end of this jumping around and in the end naah your not good enough we don't want you. And that is a bad label who does that so it's Hybe for me
The concited prideful and dismissive individual. What creative person or any person would in their right mind would want to worked with him. That's how companies with that time of mindset fail in the long run as they are not willing to think past their own I'm more important. It's the I'm the best, only I know the way, never willing to learn or adapt his sort of attuide is why many companies fail.
Both Jun and The8 of Seventeen are doing projects in China, mostly acting (Jun) and reality shows (the8)
Yes.
😂 yeah and it shows too when the music have come out to Black Pink where the musicstyle is just the same. Stray kids are then the next 1 with the music they make is so the same, I don't mean they are bad, no not at all but why don't they dare to step out and do a album with diffrent rythm songs but evrything is so hard on. Girl groups should then too be more strong and with the fist in the song not always bubbely sweet sugar that makes me wanna 🤢, strong women and strong words
YG don't want you if you don't fit the hip-hop vibe? Guess they overlooked Rosé
I like Stray Kids.
Just saw this on RUclips….reminded me of BSH AND BTS. He saying w/o saying do it like BTS
ruclips.net/video/SjPXrvm9lRY/видео.htmlsi=3_Pdi8jXf7anRg5h
Or, 3 Big with power and one with big money.
I think you exaggerate the independence of stray kids or at least their leader.
Hybe is the best
Company stan 🤡
@sofypi7493 I'm not a company stan. I'm going off facts of how company are structure
@@sofypi7493 do you know all other agencies have trainee debt? hybe is paying for trainees dorms , choreographers , language , vocal , and other from their own pockets for trainees to learn for free .
@@sofypi7493Would you have said that if OP said any company? Or only Hybe?
Whoud have said the same🥴
I would love to join YG 100%
My one gripe with HYBE is how they separate the singing and dancing for training and evaluations.
Hybe debuts artists for their potential as opposed to well polished acts. That’s why hybe artists are expected to and do grow as they continue their careers.
However, hybe should be training the trainees to dance and sing at the same time from the very beginning. HYBE rookies are unfairly labelled as bad singers when it’s only because they haven’t built up the capacity to sing and dance (very intense choreography might I add) at the same time. This is very evident in the difference in skill sets with older groups as they keep getting better the more they perform and the more they tour.
I personally understand the strategy. It’s just the hate hybe rookies get is so overwhelming for the artists and their fandoms.
What are talking about. Hybe trained them to sing and dance at the same time. You really need to stop believing false information.
Yes i agree that is why hybe artists grow over the years whereas artists in other companies lose interest in what they do when time goes eg blackpink
You need to watch hybe trainee program videos
@@nicoleloss7987 Agreed. That was just a bunch of propaganda put out by MHJ to discredit groups like LSF and Illit among others and antis ran with it. In fact when it comes to BTS it was a huge focus by BSH and his team to have high quality performances out the gate. They insisted on live vocals which many of the groups back then didn't do, I remember seeing a few queue sheets of some kpop shows recording engineer programs where it shows those groups using backtracks or live + backtrack (meaning they have a live face attached microphone that you can hear the breathing, many kpop fans are often fooled by this thinking it's all live) or simply "live".
SM might got the best vocalists but terrible rappers. Unfortunately modern SM groups rely too much on backtrack and lip-synching like aespa for example. What 2nd gen and 3rd gen achieved does not exist in modern groups. That reputation is not true today especially after Lee Soo-man left.
Tbh, I am sick and tired of seeing Y/G. They are the bottom of the bottom-of-the-barrel company, we should stop giving them attention. Everything coming out of that company is inflated, and overrated, and corrupt.
Huh? Psy, Big Bang, 2NE1, Blackpink, BabyMonster. I see your point, so overrated - it's quite annoying they are so popular
I don't think that YG is really that bad when compared to SM. I think they should do a company rehabilitation.
Plus, some of their idols are talented. At least we should acknowledge that. Otherwise we're just hating.
Yang Hyun-suk, please stay far away from YG.