I’m 57 and just recently came to the realization that there is not really any way to save capitalism. As long as profit is the motivation, we will be constantly fighting against corporations. Regulations won’t work, greed will always win out in the end. We must move past this power over paradigm.
'As long as profit is the motivation'. It's all about profit. Its only profit. That's the whole point of capitalism. If it wasn't about profit, it wouldn't be capitalism.
It's not profit that is the problem, it's hedonistic greed. Finland has set caps on CEO pay and prevents exploitation by boards of directors. No businesses left the country.
@@mrnobody3161If you were to guess... How long do you expect it to take before the USA adopts common sense regulations and pay ceilings.. My guess is never.
I was a non-voting vet who identified as 'conservative' when I was 25. The aftermath of 911 (and everything that's happened since) RADICALLY changed how I view politics. I love your take on this and applaud your thoughtfulness. We need more of that. 💙
I love how balanced this view is. I give thanks for all the mature people who gave me time to grow and evolve. But yeah…there was no social media at the time, too.
I was painfully naive and prone to viewing things as black and white in my teens and early-mid twenties. Now in my early 40s, I know I'll probably never stop learning and hopefully won't ever stop trying to do and be better.
When I started working as a carpenter, I had the privilege to work under a 70 year old carpenter. He always had little snippets of wisdom, and one that stuck with me was; the day you think you know it all is the day you stopped learning! Always be open to learning something new!
In 2014, I went with a group to Israel/Palestine. Our tour guide was a Christian Palestinian. Our bus driver was Muslim. In addition to the usual sights, we met with Palestinian mission partners (UCC). Going through the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem was one of the most painful time in my life. By then I knew from first person accounts that the Zionist were doing everything to the Palestinians except for gas chambers that had been done to the European Jews. I became active in the pro Palestine movement and lost friends from high school who saw my Facebook posts during the war with Gaza that followed that visit. These friends went back to the late 50’s and 1960. One had been schooled by our diplomatic institution to know that ALL Arabs hate ALL Jews. Logic tells us that can’t be true, but his belief trumped my experience. As you know, Zionism is a political view and Christians were an easier sell than Jews back in the beginning. I am in my 80s and still learning so I agree with you.
I was a liberal at 25, it took me years to become further left. After 13 years I have only become more left, socialist, and I find myself agreeing more with some anarchistic views. Journies take time and it is filled with peeling back your biases and preconceived notions. Now is a great time to reach out to others and abandon this purity testing. We cannot expect to have class solidarity and community or a more progressive culture if we just shut every single person who might not be "quite there yet". I hope this guy takes these critiques and criticisms and reexamines his beliefs.
AGREED. I heard a comment lately, (it might have been Tim Miller on the Bulwark), anyway, it had to do with the fact that Democrats aren’t solidly behind a party which represents us, however imperfectly, but Republicans aren’t solidly behind solidly Republicans. I do think we should always question and challenge our politicians, but if we want to make progress we need to vote as a solid block
@@CarrieLovesLife. The real solution may lie less in electoral politics (they are important, of course) but more so on building community. I do not know how to do that, so I am lucky that this channel and other channels exist so I can learn.
I was reading comments from a video about someone who left maga. Many people, including me, still had a negative reaction to her. It IS miraculous for a cheeto supporter to "wake up". But I think it was because she didn't appear remorseful. She didn't own her part in giving that madman power to destroy lives. Someone said they couldn't praise someone for becoming a descent human being, it's the bare minimum. I felt that, but now...I think we need to. This video is a good reminder that any step towards awareness is positive. Thank you, Angela!! Your emotional intelligence is something to behold! ♥️
I am 36 and I am happy to see that many people can grow to more balanced perspectives. Growth mindset and neuroplasticity are tools we absolutely need to employ. And if we have good ideas, the next step is to grow more compassionate reactions. Compassion to best or better approach with the goal of change, not to excuse or dismiss behavior that needs to be held accountable.
Dear people. You can disagree with somebody or find some of their things, ideas, disgusting and still find something of value in what they have to say, one time or another or on a totally different topic.
I'm really grateful for this. My partners and I have a policy of being patient and supportive of folks for whom the truth is just dawning. We bake metaphorical cookies when white guys say "omg, this privilege thing is real and i have a lot of changes to make!" People like that often get a lot of rolling eyes, which is totally understandable, but because we have a certain amount of privilege ourselves, we feel it is good work for us to help sheppard along the people who are newly on the journey, so that doesnt fall to Black activists, for example. Or to Palestinian activists in this case.
3:36 I don't think unfollow but just because you're deconstructing something doesn't mean that before you get deep in your journey you should be in a position of power and trust. That is something that many libs, dems, and leftist do to black people a lot. Still do. Folks who are not ready to be in the room are on the journey but want power position and prilevege within spaces of trust. And the people who want to use black lives as training wheels for them.
I remember the Zionist vs Anti-Zionist thing from 40 and 50 years ago (Vanessa Redgrave at the Oscars in '78 comes to mind). Chauvinism and lockstep knee-jerk adherence to any ideology has always ended badly.
Bravo! Such a needed topic. I bristle at some of my favorite folks on the left who seemingly cannot make room for the fact that different people are at different places. My other thought is, the ability to do the work of deconstruction, have time to process, to grow and change - is incredibly difficult under late capitalism where free time is a scare resource....by design.
I think that's what makes it so hard. Folks who have a lot of work to do uphold systems and promote beliefs that actively hurt people, that actively cause suffering...and they often don't seem to be able to comprehend that's really what they're doing. And we can't make them get to a place of understanding faster. They have to do it in their own time. It's such a difficult thing to wrestle with.
I totally resonate with your message about avoiding kneejerk reactions and being patient with other folks political/philosophical journies. We should be doing more calling in and less calling out. Some of us, myself included, also benefit from what has been called being "morally lucky", which is to say having been raised with relatively more progressive and well informed beliefs and thus having less to deconstruct. That said, I want to emphasize that a key difference between you at 25 and Aaron at 25, is that he has a large platform. I think it is reasonable to have higher expectations of people with greater influence. High expectations doesn't necessarily mean cancelling or whatever, but I think it makes sense to do something to lessen his influence at this time.
Yeah, my feeling is "grace is good, grace with accountability is better." I keep seeing folks want to give things like blanket forgiveness but it's a deeply Christian idea that doesn't ask folks to do the work first and so I'm hesitant to trust it.
This is the second video in a row of yours I'm watching where I have to challenge what you're saying. I find myself in a period of time where I definitely don't belong with the Republican party, they disgust me, but I have a few major bones of contention with the Democratic party also. I am 57 and I have been a Democrat since the very first time I registered to vote and in spirit for years before it. I am also partially of Jewish descent. My mother was a Jewish girl from Brooklyn, New York. For years of my life, I fought off the connection to my Jewish ancestry. I think some of this may have been because there was some subconscious antisemitism that I felt, even growing up in New York City. We're Jewish people are more plentiful than they are anywhere else in the country. But more so, because my father wasn't present, and I wanted to feel more connected to him, so what I knew about his ancestry became a lot more important to me. I also had a real problem with the fact that it seems like almost every Jewish holiday, except maybe Sukkot, I cannot think of another one, seems to be some commemoration of some time the Jewish people were suffering, enslaved, surviving poverty and lack. I was living a life with more than enough poverty snd lack already, and wasn't really interested in carrying it forward. However, one thing that you don't escape, usually, when you grow up Jewish, even secularly Jewish, unless your parents are truly self-hating Jews, and have not encouraged you to be aware of the struggle of your own people, is growing up very educated about the history. I am beyond disgusted with hearing you describe Zionism the way that you are. It seems to me that there is a lot of history that you and people who think like you do not know, and you don't want to know it, because if you knew it, you might have to change your minds about who to hate. Magnum mistake about it, your anti-Zionist attitude is a mask for antisemitism. And no, it doesn't matter that there is some Jewish people who are self hating enough to be on that side. They are being pick-me Jews. You don't have good information and you're supporting terrorists. The Palestinians had every opportunity to live on their share of the land, which was significantly more plentiful than it is now, in peace. Five days after the official origination of Israel, they decided together with four other nations to attack. When people go to war, and they lose, they lose people, and they lose land. And they have persisted in the same ever since, often terrorizing the whole world for their own grievances, with the terrorist of other Arab nations joining them. Meanwhile, there you and refugee fund receives more money than anyone else's on Earth. I don't have sympathy for people who act violent and war like, create their own problems, and then, when you show up to say, "If that's how you want to play it, that's how we're going to play it, because our people have been slaughtered enough, and now it's over." Somehow you defending yourselves makes you go from victim to perpetrator apparently. Why because it's real stronger. Yes Israel is stronger. That means it's a dumb fight to pick. In this country, Jewish people have more often than not been strong supporters of the democratic party but when we take this position, we force Jewish people into alliances with Republicans, or at the very least we force them to Hayton abuse, the wrong kind, or to feel completely politically homeless. I believe that the only reason there's a large faction of the Democratic Party making this choice in alliances is because we are in a time where we are racially obsessed, and we equate Jewish people with white, and Palestinian people with brown, and people are projecting our own experience of white and black on that situation. It is both simplistic and inaccurate. On Malcolm Nance's RUclips channel he's got two videos on the history of this region. He is former CIA. He was stationed in that part of the world for a long time. He knows what he's saying. Go check it out please.
Thank you for this video, I had my issues with this guy since the video he released about the guy being accused of canceling that ceo in NY, talking about his tweets and how it just felt like he was basically echoing corporate media and basically using his platform to turn people on the left against the adjuster. Basically showing how out of touch he is. I have been blocked from the midas touch comments and we'll I can't endorse that channel any more considering they feel like they are raking the same road that TYT is taking. So thanks for showing me I'm not crazy
I could not agree more! I have been making the analogy for so long that so many people expect members of society to jump from inventing the gramophone all the way to inventing current smart phones with streaming apps. Most people are not going to be able to jump that far ahead without knowledge of player pianos, jukeboxes, record players, Walkman, CDs, MP3 players and everything else that got us to where we are with modern music playing devices. It's unrealistic to go from point A to point Z without all the other letters.
I think it's a little harmful to say that the left expects perfection. That is a similar argument that concervatives use as a way to dismiss criticism. In reality a lot of people will have this knee jerk reaction but they aren't "the left" they are just people who had a knee jerk reaction. I'm willing to bet he is not gonna lose even a thrid of his followers (nor do I think he should) But if people have the reaction to not want to follow his content anymore that's completely within their rights to do so. He can hear the criticism, or not, but he will completely okay because ultimately he is the one with a huge account that has a lot of reach and followers.
I love almost all of your content. Perhaps you could give some of this grace to vegan activism, which you unabashedly call "eco-fascism." Maybe you could talk with a vegan activist and either confirm or perhaps reconsider that viewpoint. I have no social media presence, but am active in my small community in Mexico, I'd be willing to listen to why I am a fascist and consider your view, if you'd give me the same grace (although I think I may not be the best at expressing huge worldviews.) Much love, keep up with your great videos! You have a powerful voice for change and compassion.
I’m the same age as this guy that you’re talking about, and I was also raised very Christian and Zionist. I am neither anymore, but I started unraveling that at 16, because I was going to college and had the space to do so. It has been a DECADE. And I am STILL unlearning stuff I thought I’d already unlearned!! I’m unlearning new stuff I didn’t know I needed to unlearn! It’s a constant, lifelong journey, and part of what helps us become better people. We have to accept the idea that everyone’s journey is different, and be willing to meet them where they are at, not where we want them to be
The first time I voted, I went to the Republican side, just to go against my parents, because their point of view was shoved down my throat. They were deep Dems (think 60's and 70's type Dems) and then they went independent. Unless you have people in your life who offer both sides, allow you to speak and explore, to deep dive on politics, a LOT of young people just make a choice, mostly out of lack of understanding. As I've grown older and experience life, my views have changed tremendously. My son voted for the first time this past election and I allowed him his space to think for himself. He asked a lot of questions, looked at the bigger issues and reviewed both sides. I don't know who he voted for but I know he is on his journey and I trust he is making good decisions, based on how he treats other humans and how he speaks.
As someone who was raised in a "progressive" (on the surface) household with strong (conservative) religious beliefs and practices, thank you for discussing this. I'm 28 and I'm still very much working to continue breaking out of the indoctrination from my childhood. I graduated with my bachelor's in Gender and Women's Studies in 2019, so I have a leg up. But the reality is that the internal work is lifelong, no matter how educated we are on social issues or current events. Thank you for not villainizing someone who is clearly doing to work to be better than they are.
I think that conversation is the best way for a person to sort out their inherited world view. A process that lasts a lifetime. What to consider most is the kind of person he is. Is he open minded ? Willing to listen? Willing to grow in his experiences? Is he kind? Does he torture dogs/ cate? Or is he tender at heart towards others? Everyone has the choice to learn, change.
I've been Subscribed to The Meidas Touch Network for 3 years. I have not and cannot find any Factual indication that Aaron Parnas is a contributer on the Meidas Touch Network. His father has been a guest on Michael Cohen's Channel which is a part of the Meidas Touch Network.
All you have to do is follow the links MT often gives on RUclips, to their written articles. I'm sure they could be easily found from the MT website. Aaron is a frequent contributor, and I've read many of his articles on the MT platform. Just because he doesn't appear on screen, doesn't mean he's not part of the network. If you didn't find him there, you weren't looking very hard. I'm not talking about the MT articles in substack, but those they post daily on their own platform. Before MT, Aaron was a frequent contributor to Luke Beasley's channel. PS: Angela knows what she's talking about.
One of the most important things you can do in deconstructing is to Sit In Your Discomfort. So when the pile-ons happen on SM (where criticism descends into the worst definition of "cancel culture" or brigading), they actually act *counter* to the real work of deconstructing because they seek to push people to publicly embrace a shift in speaking that they haven't yet had a chance to understand or back up with a shift in thinking. And that may not sync with the understanding they actually come to. It's social engineering, but it's thin and ends in a society where a select few end up dictating acceptable public speech, but no one has done the real work in getting through the thought process behind it, and therefore the real change in action and policy never happens because everyone is stopped at speech.
@Parkrose Permaculture I am an older person & a parent. My issue with your approach to this, is that what age do you think a person should reach before they face the full consequences of their actions & words? Where is the motivation to self reflect if you can still reap the benefits of your chosen path, no matter what your attitudes are. I grant you that twenty-five is still young & I would hope that we all still develop/ed more after that age, but that development in large part comes from experiencing not just the positives in life but also the negatives when appropriate. I understand that in your country twenty-five is old enough legally for everything short of running for presidency, so I would suggest this young man doesn't need to be infantalised by any extra considerations for his already privileged life. If people choose to unsubscribe to his platforms then maybe it's simply because they are not happy to give their support to someone who has such offensive opinions when it comes to the lives of certain others. It's not as if this is just a difference of opinion on something superficial. Regards from Scotland.
Except young children don’t have the capacity and knowledge to do that, and once ideas are deeply ingrained, it can take years to overcome wrong or harmful beliefs. As adults we should all be questioning and looking for truth, but people need time and exposure to other’s viewpoints to do that (one reason why I think everyone should have the opportunity to go to college-especially in a different city).
This is absolutely not true. It's actually victim blaming. We know that we are actually all susceptible to the psychological tactics of indoctrination. Also, children have no say in who their parents are, what their religion is, what kind of world they are immersed in.
You've just made me wonder - if someone is persuaded to "change their opinions" in an instant, are they going to be more prone to changing their mind back again when they meet another, more persuasive speaker? It seems to me that one can have an epiphany - a revelation - in a moment, but then you need time to let the new thoughts settle and fit into a logical framework, and eventually become a truly held belief. A belief easily come by should be as easily lost. I do realise that theory is undermined by the persistence of misinformation, though! Stuff to think about. And thank you for your measured discussions.
Not to excuse poor behavior or hateful mindsets--im not and won't, as a woman of color, and yet, medical chemical maturity does not occur until about 25. Yes, some mature earlier, others later. But few of us are exactly the same person decades after reaching adulthood. We all hope to grow and be a better person tomorrow than we are today. Heres to his and all of our continued positive healthy growth and evolution. What we learn today will make us who we are tomorrow. Its all about the lessons...and the teacher..and student.
I’m conflicted over the idea of Zionism. On one hand, I know how much violence Israel’s establishment has caused Palestinians. On the other hand, learning about the history of Jewish persecution all over Europe and the Middle East has made me more inclined to believe that maybe Jews do need a place they can escape to. As someone who’s lgbt, witnessing the crack down globally on us makes me wish I had a homeland that would welcome me no matter what. It’s a conflicting situation for me
I've been Leftist (American version) for 45ish years? 2 things I know about Leftists... Usually my harshest attacks come from other Leftists... -And? "Want 45 different positions on any given policy? Put 6 Leftists together in 1 room..." 🤣😂🤣😂
So my vocabulary is a bit limited and would need to google terms to understand what term refers to what kind of beliefs but the gist to not be abrupt and take time to absorb and analyze before reacting is right. Second not all disagreements are breaking points, though definitely some are. But in the interest of having discussion for common good is the goal. In a “well sorted world” hopefully we would have fewer varied terms as far as basics like governance and human values are concerned - I think matrix 4 trailer statement “let go back to the matrix” is actually “let’s go back to the basics” - relatable 😅
Life is a journey not a destination. Learning along the way should be the goal. The desire to learn and change is what allows growth, it is a process. I am not the same person I was at 25, 35, 45, or now at 60.
the principle behind progressive ideology is progress. there would be no point to life if it were not for growth. we are all ignorant. that is not a problem as ignorance can be solved through learning. the real problem is persistent ignorance for which there is no remedy 🙂
39 and still deconstructing from fundamentalist baptist right wing conservative authoritarian upbringing. I am the only one in my birth family who didn’t vote for trump.
... I see what you are doing here, THOSE EARRINGS, about half way through your vid they grabbed my attention and I had to rewatch and try not to pay attention to them, just finished my 3rd watch, great content, good for engagement, final score is.... well played... 😂
❤❤ trust me.. (or not.. people always have choice) Looking back from 71 years of age to 45.. You're wonderful by the way but no there's more to come ... and it's pretty cool. I'm glad to know You. Know and I'm kind of sad that I probably won't get to know you when you're 70 but I'm glad that other younger people will.
I’m 57 and just recently came to the realization that there is not really any way to save capitalism. As long as profit is the motivation, we will be constantly fighting against corporations. Regulations won’t work, greed will always win out in the end. We must move past this power over paradigm.
'As long as profit is the motivation'. It's all about profit. Its only profit. That's the whole point of capitalism. If it wasn't about profit, it wouldn't be capitalism.
It's not profit that is the problem, it's hedonistic greed. Finland has set caps on CEO pay and prevents exploitation by boards of directors. No businesses left the country.
@@mrnobody3161 caps or not, capitalism is about money capital-ism. Its primary focus is money.
You are displeasing our corporate masters! Repent!
@@mrnobody3161If you were to guess...
How long do you expect it to take before the USA adopts common sense regulations and pay ceilings..
My guess is never.
I was a non-voting vet who identified as 'conservative' when I was 25. The aftermath of 911 (and everything that's happened since) RADICALLY changed how I view politics. I love your take on this and applaud your thoughtfulness. We need more of that. 💙
I love how balanced this view is. I give thanks for all the mature people who gave me time to grow and evolve. But yeah…there was no social media at the time, too.
I am so grateful there was no social media for me to be posting on in my early and mid 20s!!
Thanks for a mature balanced view. We need to allow people the grace they need to grow and mature. I'm still growing at 70.
Yes, I'd love for us on the left to grant each other a lil more grace as a reflex rather than start tearing each other apart as a reflex.
Yep. Let the other side be the ones with the purity tests.
I was painfully naive and prone to viewing things as black and white in my teens and early-mid twenties. Now in my early 40s, I know I'll probably never stop learning and hopefully won't ever stop trying to do and be better.
When I started working as a carpenter, I had the privilege to work under a 70 year old carpenter. He always had little snippets of wisdom, and one that stuck with me was; the day you think you know it all is the day you stopped learning! Always be open to learning something new!
In 2014, I went with a group to Israel/Palestine. Our tour guide was a Christian Palestinian. Our bus driver was Muslim. In addition to the usual sights, we met with Palestinian mission partners (UCC). Going through the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem was one of the most painful time in my life. By then I knew from first person accounts that the Zionist were doing everything to the Palestinians except for gas chambers that had been done to the European Jews. I became active in the pro Palestine movement and lost friends from high school who saw my Facebook posts during the war with Gaza that followed that visit. These friends went back to the late 50’s and 1960. One had been schooled by our diplomatic institution to know that ALL Arabs hate ALL Jews. Logic tells us that can’t be true, but his belief trumped my experience. As you know, Zionism is a political view and Christians were an easier sell than Jews back in the beginning. I am in my 80s and still learning so I agree with you.
I was a liberal at 25, it took me years to become further left. After 13 years I have only become more left, socialist, and I find myself agreeing more with some anarchistic views. Journies take time and it is filled with peeling back your biases and preconceived notions. Now is a great time to reach out to others and abandon this purity testing. We cannot expect to have class solidarity and community or a more progressive culture if we just shut every single person who might not be "quite there yet". I hope this guy takes these critiques and criticisms and reexamines his beliefs.
AGREED. I heard a comment lately, (it might have been Tim Miller on the Bulwark), anyway, it had to do with the fact that Democrats aren’t solidly behind a party which represents us, however imperfectly, but Republicans aren’t solidly behind solidly Republicans.
I do think we should always question and challenge our politicians, but if we want to make progress we need to vote as a solid block
@@CarrieLovesLife. The real solution may lie less in electoral politics (they are important, of course) but more so on building community. I do not know how to do that, so I am lucky that this channel and other channels exist so I can learn.
I was reading comments from a video about someone who left maga. Many people, including me, still had a negative reaction to her. It IS miraculous for a cheeto supporter to "wake up". But I think it was because she didn't appear remorseful. She didn't own her part in giving that madman power to destroy lives. Someone said they couldn't praise someone for becoming a descent human being, it's the bare minimum. I felt that, but now...I think we need to. This video is a good reminder that any step towards awareness is positive. Thank you, Angela!! Your emotional intelligence is something to behold! ♥️
I am 36 and I am happy to see that many people can grow to more balanced perspectives. Growth mindset and neuroplasticity are tools we absolutely need to employ. And if we have good ideas, the next step is to grow more compassionate reactions. Compassion to best or better approach with the goal of change, not to excuse or dismiss behavior that needs to be held accountable.
Dear people. You can disagree with somebody or find some of their things, ideas, disgusting and still find something of value in what they have to say, one time or another or on a totally different topic.
Agree whole heatedly. I find your unbiased thoughts refreshing.
I'm really grateful for this. My partners and I have a policy of being patient and supportive of folks for whom the truth is just dawning. We bake metaphorical cookies when white guys say "omg, this privilege thing is real and i have a lot of changes to make!" People like that often get a lot of rolling eyes, which is totally understandable, but because we have a certain amount of privilege ourselves, we feel it is good work for us to help sheppard along the people who are newly on the journey, so that doesnt fall to Black activists, for example. Or to Palestinian activists in this case.
3:36 I don't think unfollow but just because you're deconstructing something doesn't mean that before you get deep in your journey you should be in a position of power and trust. That is something that many libs, dems, and leftist do to black people a lot. Still do. Folks who are not ready to be in the room are on the journey but want power position and prilevege within spaces of trust. And the people who want to use black lives as training wheels for them.
I was a libertarian for prison abolition because they were the only people who were loudly talking about it.
This is a fantastic comment. Thank you 🙏
No way someone with your capacity for critical thinking could remain an evangelical. …
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I remember the Zionist vs Anti-Zionist thing from 40 and 50 years ago (Vanessa Redgrave at the Oscars in '78 comes to mind). Chauvinism and lockstep knee-jerk adherence to any ideology has always ended badly.
Thank you for your well reasoned, measured approach - we need more of it!
Bravo! Such a needed topic. I bristle at some of my favorite folks on the left who seemingly cannot make room for the fact that different people are at different places. My other thought is, the ability to do the work of deconstruction, have time to process, to grow and change - is incredibly difficult under late capitalism where free time is a scare resource....by design.
How inconvenient that those ‘different places’ are resulting in children being burned to death, right?
@@Ninsidhe Agreed!
I think that's what makes it so hard. Folks who have a lot of work to do uphold systems and promote beliefs that actively hurt people, that actively cause suffering...and they often don't seem to be able to comprehend that's really what they're doing. And we can't make them get to a place of understanding faster. They have to do it in their own time. It's such a difficult thing to wrestle with.
Amen! I’m still unlearning in my 60’s. Such a long road. It’s hard to let some things go to their natural death.
I totally resonate with your message about avoiding kneejerk reactions and being patient with other folks political/philosophical journies. We should be doing more calling in and less calling out. Some of us, myself included, also benefit from what has been called being "morally lucky", which is to say having been raised with relatively more progressive and well informed beliefs and thus having less to deconstruct. That said, I want to emphasize that a key difference between you at 25 and Aaron at 25, is that he has a large platform. I think it is reasonable to have higher expectations of people with greater influence. High expectations doesn't necessarily mean cancelling or whatever, but I think it makes sense to do something to lessen his influence at this time.
also fwiw, I'm not on tiktok and I've never heard of this guy, so I'm just reacting to Angela's presentation of this
Yeah, my feeling is "grace is good, grace with accountability is better." I keep seeing folks want to give things like blanket forgiveness but it's a deeply Christian idea that doesn't ask folks to do the work first and so I'm hesitant to trust it.
This is the second video in a row of yours I'm watching where I have to challenge what you're saying. I find myself in a period of time where I definitely don't belong with the Republican party, they disgust me, but I have a few major bones of contention with the Democratic party also. I am 57 and I have been a Democrat since the very first time I registered to vote and in spirit for years before it. I am also partially of Jewish descent. My mother was a Jewish girl from Brooklyn, New York. For years of my life, I fought off the connection to my Jewish ancestry. I think some of this may have been because there was some subconscious antisemitism that I felt, even growing up in New York City. We're Jewish people are more plentiful than they are anywhere else in the country. But more so, because my father wasn't present, and I wanted to feel more connected to him, so what I knew about his ancestry became a lot more important to me. I also had a real problem with the fact that it seems like almost every Jewish holiday, except maybe Sukkot, I cannot think of another one, seems to be some commemoration of some time the Jewish people were suffering, enslaved, surviving poverty and lack. I was living a life with more than enough poverty snd lack already, and wasn't really interested in carrying it forward. However, one thing that you don't escape, usually, when you grow up Jewish, even secularly Jewish, unless your parents are truly self-hating Jews, and have not encouraged you to be aware of the struggle of your own people, is growing up very educated about the history.
I am beyond disgusted with hearing you describe Zionism the way that you are. It seems to me that there is a lot of history that you and people who think like you do not know, and you don't want to know it, because if you knew it, you might have to change your minds about who to hate. Magnum mistake about it, your anti-Zionist attitude is a mask for antisemitism. And no, it doesn't matter that there is some Jewish people who are self hating enough to be on that side. They are being pick-me Jews. You don't have good information and you're supporting terrorists. The Palestinians had every opportunity to live on their share of the land, which was significantly more plentiful than it is now, in peace. Five days after the official origination of Israel, they decided together with four other nations to attack. When people go to war, and they lose, they lose people, and they lose land. And they have persisted in the same ever since, often terrorizing the whole world for their own grievances, with the terrorist of other Arab nations joining them. Meanwhile, there you and refugee fund receives more money than anyone else's on Earth.
I don't have sympathy for people who act violent and war like, create their own problems, and then, when you show up to say, "If that's how you want to play it, that's how we're going to play it, because our people have been slaughtered enough, and now it's over." Somehow you defending yourselves makes you go from victim to perpetrator apparently. Why because it's real stronger. Yes Israel is stronger. That means it's a dumb fight to pick.
In this country, Jewish people have more often than not been strong supporters of the democratic party but when we take this position, we force Jewish people into alliances with Republicans, or at the very least we force them to Hayton abuse, the wrong kind, or to feel completely politically homeless.
I believe that the only reason there's a large faction of the Democratic Party making this choice in alliances is because we are in a time where we are racially obsessed, and we equate Jewish people with white, and Palestinian people with brown, and people are projecting our own experience of white and black on that situation.
It is both simplistic and inaccurate. On Malcolm Nance's RUclips channel he's got two videos on the history of this region. He is former CIA. He was stationed in that part of the world for a long time. He knows what he's saying. Go check it out please.
Thank you for this video, I had my issues with this guy since the video he released about the guy being accused of canceling that ceo in NY, talking about his tweets and how it just felt like he was basically echoing corporate media and basically using his platform to turn people on the left against the adjuster. Basically showing how out of touch he is. I have been blocked from the midas touch comments and we'll I can't endorse that channel any more considering they feel like they are raking the same road that TYT is taking. So thanks for showing me I'm not crazy
i haven't been able to watch Meidas Touch coverage since the election. i see i am not the only one with complaints.
I like hearing about your journey! And the wisdom you are gaining in this short life!
Well said❤
Still figuring stuff out myself
Thank u for idea of grace ❤
I could not agree more! I have been making the analogy for so long that so many people expect members of society to jump from inventing the gramophone all the way to inventing current smart phones with streaming apps. Most people are not going to be able to jump that far ahead without knowledge of player pianos, jukeboxes, record players, Walkman, CDs, MP3 players and everything else that got us to where we are with modern music playing devices. It's unrealistic to go from point A to point Z without all the other letters.
God, you are wonderful, arrogance of youth, I was like that, 79 and a lot smarter
Imagine living in a world without labels..
I think it's a little harmful to say that the left expects perfection.
That is a similar argument that concervatives use as a way to dismiss criticism.
In reality a lot of people will have this knee jerk reaction but they aren't "the left" they are just people who had a knee jerk reaction.
I'm willing to bet he is not gonna lose even a thrid of his followers (nor do I think he should)
But if people have the reaction to not want to follow his content anymore that's completely within their rights to do so.
He can hear the criticism, or not, but he will completely okay because ultimately he is the one with a huge account that has a lot of reach and followers.
I love almost all of your content. Perhaps you could give some of this grace to vegan activism, which you unabashedly call "eco-fascism." Maybe you could talk with a vegan activist and either confirm or perhaps reconsider that viewpoint. I have no social media presence, but am active in my small community in Mexico, I'd be willing to listen to why I am a fascist and consider your view, if you'd give me the same grace (although I think I may not be the best at expressing huge worldviews.) Much love, keep up with your great videos! You have a powerful voice for change and compassion.
I LOVE your earrings!!!❤
I’m the same age as this guy that you’re talking about, and I was also raised very Christian and Zionist. I am neither anymore, but I started unraveling that at 16, because I was going to college and had the space to do so. It has been a DECADE. And I am STILL unlearning stuff I thought I’d already unlearned!! I’m unlearning new stuff I didn’t know I needed to unlearn! It’s a constant, lifelong journey, and part of what helps us become better people. We have to accept the idea that everyone’s journey is different, and be willing to meet them where they are at, not where we want them to be
I'm 64 and still deconstructing. I so love your videos. I learn so much from you every day.
Love this take.
The first time I voted, I went to the Republican side, just to go against my parents, because their point of view was shoved down my throat. They were deep Dems (think 60's and 70's type Dems) and then they went independent. Unless you have people in your life who offer both sides, allow you to speak and explore, to deep dive on politics, a LOT of young people just make a choice, mostly out of lack of understanding. As I've grown older and experience life, my views have changed tremendously. My son voted for the first time this past election and I allowed him his space to think for himself. He asked a lot of questions, looked at the bigger issues and reviewed both sides. I don't know who he voted for but I know he is on his journey and I trust he is making good decisions, based on how he treats other humans and how he speaks.
As someone who was raised in a "progressive" (on the surface) household with strong (conservative) religious beliefs and practices, thank you for discussing this. I'm 28 and I'm still very much working to continue breaking out of the indoctrination from my childhood. I graduated with my bachelor's in Gender and Women's Studies in 2019, so I have a leg up. But the reality is that the internal work is lifelong, no matter how educated we are on social issues or current events. Thank you for not villainizing someone who is clearly doing to work to be better than they are.
High EQ my friend. Great think piece
Good points, the least we can do is continue to reevaluate beliefs and prejudices. Thanks, food for thought.
I think that conversation is the best way for a person to sort out their inherited world view. A process that lasts a lifetime. What to consider most is the kind of person he is. Is he open minded ? Willing to listen? Willing to grow in his experiences? Is he kind? Does he torture dogs/ cate? Or is he tender at heart towards others? Everyone has the choice to learn, change.
I really appreciate your nuanced, thoughtful perspective and exposition on this issue.
Yes, your take on this issue makes so much sense 👍🏼
You've given me some food for thought. Thanks
I've been Subscribed to The Meidas Touch Network for 3 years. I have not and cannot find any Factual indication that Aaron Parnas is a contributer on the Meidas Touch Network.
His father has been a guest on Michael Cohen's Channel which is a part of the Meidas Touch Network.
All you have to do is follow the links MT often gives on RUclips, to their written articles. I'm sure they could be easily found from the MT website. Aaron is a frequent contributor, and I've read many of his articles on the MT platform. Just because he doesn't appear on screen, doesn't mean he's not part of the network. If you didn't find him there, you weren't looking very hard. I'm not talking about the MT articles in substack, but those they post daily on their own platform. Before MT, Aaron was a frequent contributor to Luke Beasley's channel. PS: Angela knows what she's talking about.
One of the most important things you can do in deconstructing is to Sit In Your Discomfort. So when the pile-ons happen on SM (where criticism descends into the worst definition of "cancel culture" or brigading), they actually act *counter* to the real work of deconstructing because they seek to push people to publicly embrace a shift in speaking that they haven't yet had a chance to understand or back up with a shift in thinking. And that may not sync with the understanding they actually come to. It's social engineering, but it's thin and ends in a society where a select few end up dictating acceptable public speech, but no one has done the real work in getting through the thought process behind it, and therefore the real change in action and policy never happens because everyone is stopped at speech.
Thank you so much! I needed this kind of love and grace and patience as I learned to deconstruct.
I like your view points!! I especially love your earrings!!
@Parkrose Permaculture I am an older person & a parent. My issue with your approach to this, is that what age do you think a person should reach before they face the full consequences of their actions & words? Where is the motivation to self reflect if you can still reap the benefits of your chosen path, no matter what your attitudes are.
I grant you that twenty-five is still young & I would hope that we all still develop/ed more after that age, but that development in large part comes from experiencing not just the positives in life but also the negatives when appropriate. I understand that in your country twenty-five is old enough legally for everything short of running for presidency, so I would suggest this young man doesn't need to be infantalised by any extra considerations for his already privileged life. If people choose to unsubscribe to his platforms then maybe it's simply because they are not happy to give their support to someone who has such offensive opinions when it comes to the lives of certain others. It's not as if this is just a difference of opinion on something superficial. Regards from Scotland.
I admire your earring. It makes me think of Les Miserable. Do you hear the people sing?
Love your channel.
Well said.
Those earrings are fantastic!
I love this channel.
We are not poisoned by others unless we allow ourselves to be so.
Except young children don’t have the capacity and knowledge to do that, and once ideas are deeply ingrained, it can take years to overcome wrong or harmful beliefs.
As adults we should all be questioning and looking for truth, but people need time and exposure to other’s viewpoints to do that (one reason why I think everyone should have the opportunity to go to college-especially in a different city).
This is absolutely not true. It's actually victim blaming. We know that we are actually all susceptible to the psychological tactics of indoctrination. Also, children have no say in who their parents are, what their religion is, what kind of world they are immersed in.
@auroras333-jz3ju Debates on YT greatly assisted me to discard my religious indoctrination. I became aware I was on the losing side. 🙂
💯@@ParkrosePermaculture
You've just made me wonder - if someone is persuaded to "change their opinions" in an instant, are they going to be more prone to changing their mind back again when they meet another, more persuasive speaker?
It seems to me that one can have an epiphany - a revelation - in a moment, but then you need time to let the new thoughts settle and fit into a logical framework, and eventually become a truly held belief.
A belief easily come by should be as easily lost. I do realise that theory is undermined by the persistence of misinformation, though!
Stuff to think about.
And thank you for your measured discussions.
Not to excuse poor behavior or hateful mindsets--im not and won't, as a woman of color, and yet, medical chemical maturity does not occur until about 25. Yes, some mature earlier, others later. But few of us are exactly the same person decades after reaching adulthood. We all hope to grow and be a better person tomorrow than we are today. Heres to his and all of our continued positive healthy growth and evolution. What we learn today will make us who we are tomorrow. Its all about the lessons...and the teacher..and student.
I’m conflicted over the idea of Zionism. On one hand, I know how much violence Israel’s establishment has caused Palestinians. On the other hand, learning about the history of Jewish persecution all over Europe and the Middle East has made me more inclined to believe that maybe Jews do need a place they can escape to. As someone who’s lgbt, witnessing the crack down globally on us makes me wish I had a homeland that would welcome me no matter what. It’s a conflicting situation for me
3:32 I empathize 🙏🏻🔯🙏🏻
I've been Leftist (American version) for 45ish years? 2 things I know about Leftists... Usually my harshest attacks come from other Leftists...
-And? "Want 45 different positions on any given policy? Put 6 Leftists together in 1 room..." 🤣😂🤣😂
Sweet earring!
Love the earrings
So my vocabulary is a bit limited and would need to google terms to understand what term refers to what kind of beliefs but the gist to not be abrupt and take time to absorb and analyze before reacting is right. Second not all disagreements are breaking points, though definitely some are. But in the interest of having discussion for common good is the goal.
In a “well sorted world” hopefully we would have fewer varied terms as far as basics like governance and human values are concerned - I think matrix 4 trailer statement “let go back to the matrix” is actually “let’s go back to the basics” - relatable 😅
Life is a journey not a destination. Learning along the way should be the goal. The desire to learn and change is what allows growth, it is a process. I am not the same person I was at 25, 35, 45, or now at 60.
the principle behind progressive ideology is progress. there would be no point to life if it were not for growth. we are all ignorant. that is not a problem as ignorance can be solved through learning. the real problem is persistent ignorance for which there is no remedy 🙂
39 and still deconstructing from fundamentalist baptist right wing conservative authoritarian upbringing. I am the only one in my birth family who didn’t vote for trump.
Bravissima. If it’s not the oppression Olympics, it’s the opinion Olympics, and brother is fun nor moves us forward.
... I see what you are doing here, THOSE EARRINGS, about half way through your vid they grabbed my attention and I had to rewatch and try not to pay attention to them, just finished my 3rd watch, great content, good for engagement, final score is.... well played... 😂
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I stopped watching them when they didn't stop Benicide from reporting
fame on tiktok?? will never be a real thing. never heard of this guy. what is the point of this video?
Oof
❤❤ trust me.. (or not.. people always have choice)
Looking back from 71 years of age to 45..
You're wonderful by the way but no there's more to come ...
and it's pretty cool.
I'm glad to know You. Know and I'm kind of sad that I probably won't get to know you when you're 70 but I'm glad that other younger people will.
Slow clap.