Apologies for the bit where I stop the video dead to deliver a pitch for a video game lol. One of these days i'll pull a list like this off without going on a long tangent about something xD.
May i say keep the tangents, kind of make it part of your thing, dont force a tangent but dont stop yourself, it shows your personality and helps these vids not feel too dry en emotionless as some lit vids can be, just an idea
They're on to me! xD In all seriousness though, I really think the human designs are just perfectly done in ME, really interesting visual style overall. Cerberus stuff looks cool too, I like the way they basically just have angrier looking versions of Alliance Cruisers and Fighters.
Seems odd that Geth wouldn't design a utilitarian shape -- cube, cylinder, etc. Maybe the wasp-ship was someone else's design, and the Geth just ran with it because it was easier than designing new?
Wonder if there is enough lore for you to do an episode about how Humans in the mass effect universe stunned the turians with the introduction of space based fighter carriers
The real stunner was why those carriers packed so much of a punch: humans introduced the disruptor torpedo as well. No other race was crazy enough to take the rarest, most precious substance in the galaxy and deliberately hurl it towards their enemies!
@Bogey the Bear Uh the humans didn't introduce the disruptor torpedo. I don't understand where this claim came from honestly. The Codex makes no mention of humanity being the creators of disruptor torpedoes.
Except the other races already have carriers in that their cruisers carry fighters as well. Human carriers were just made to get around the ratio restrictions on dreadnoughts in the Treaty of Firaxen.
@@warellis Except that what the humans invented was a ship where the main weapon is fighters. Cruisers can transport fighters but thy're not their main weapon.
Ugh, same. I was really impressed by the System Alliance ships- the cruisers and Dreadnoughts specifically. It really is a shame they didn't flush them out more; we only really ever see the outside except for one or two cutscenes on bridges.
It really is a great thing how you can see both the human and turian design elements in the Normandy, yet it works so seamlessly as a ship unto itself.
I like Geth and Quarian ships. Normandy is badass, Alliance cruisers look good and sleek. I will never understand why we never got to see Salarian ships. Or any dreadnoughts besides the geth one.
Yeah, there are many races whose ships we never got to see: Salarian, Hanar, Batarian, Volus, etc. Thankfully the fine folks at Koobismo's Workshop made their own very convincing 3D models based off the visual styles associated with those species. You can see those in Marauder Shields Episodes 37 and 40 on Deviant Art.
The Tempest is pretty nice as well. Maybe a bit too "style over function" on the inside, but the outside lines are great and the place where you stand as a Pathfinder commanding the ship... Has to be one of the coolest spots ever in science fiction.
...Am I the only one who actually likes the exterior appearance of the SR1 more than that of the SR2? I just really love how the “wings” can move and shift around.
Truly love the the Normandy SR2...It look like something that can dogfight, AND slug it out with capital ships in a highly maneuver intensive running battle...And big enough to operate by itself for quite sometime...And would be a treat for the eyes to see an entire wolf packs made up of these ships hunting and killing capital ships and screen fighters and other frigates... Hell, you could consider them Destroyers and it would fit well.
The Desteny Ascention always looked to me like it could be streight out of Gene Roddenberrys Andromeda. It has the same majestic huge look and almost organic hull lines ^^ The Kodyak Dropshuttle is a great design as well. It is compact, has a clear role and takes perfect advantage of the Mass-Effect premise of Element zero and reflects this perfectly in its design. For me the best ship in all of mass effect exactly because of that. Most other ships like the Normandy for example look like they could exist exactly as it does even with out the mass-effect-fields. But the Kodyak shuttle really shows how a hard sci-fi techno bubble with an clearly defined fantasy element and otherwise trying to stick to actual science can affect design choices and make the premise even more believable. The Normandy SR2 is indeed a beauty. Only downsides are the Window like things on the hull which were not really explained and are clearly no windows because we don't have them on the interior. Otherwise i as well love her but i prefer the Cerberus interior with the Conference room in the middle, the full Hangar for vehicles and cargo and the Science lab rounds out her mission profile. A few minor changes i would still use so my small Interior refit would include: The Armory i would change into a smaller Armory room with security access and weapons lockers and the rest of the room i would put a second security room with a table for interrogations and maybe one or two small prison cells. The Captains Quarter i devide in two rooms with the current desk area and bath being the XO's Quarters and the rest from the stairs on the Captains quarters. It is still big enough to hold a big bed, a smaller Bath and a desk to work on. Same for the Xo'S althrough a bit more cramped. The current XO's Quarters i would either use as mission specific Area or include a small corridor and make one VIP or two bigger guest Quarters from it. The current Life support i would hide behind some panels and include a larger quarter for one person (like the chief engineer because of the window to oversee the engine core) in the back of it where Zane is found. The Crew Quarters stay as they are but the Beds hidden behind some walls so four crewmembers share one small area hidden behind a door so there is more privacy in comparison to now. The starboard observation lounge i would rip of all those seating and instead include a small gym area as well as a VR Globe area for the freetime. It would use the holographic tech to create a virtual reality which fools the user as good as possible for masseffect technology level. It would be for one person at a time to relax or train in. The port side stays the same as it is in ME3. The lab i would divide in one Bio/ chemical lab area and one tech lab area. finally two ladders to the right and left of the central lift which go through the whole ship instead of those ladders and jeffrey'S tubes she now has and she is perfect. She is not too big but can pack a decently sized crew. She has all things one would need on a ship like Medbay, a few shuttles, Weapons and shields and unlike her predecessor even a bit space for the crew. And still she is small enough to land on many planets and if the planet has to high gravity she has her shuttles. I am really sad we never got to see her landing gear. And yea i know we don't know if she has Landing gear but i believe she has. The Position as well as design of her Hangarbay with the door out to the front would otherwise make little sense if it wasn't designed to actually lower a ramp to drive out of the front with a ground vehicle. Also it is stated that she is build to carry out the same tasks as the SR1 could and that she can't land on all planets which means on some she can and we see her coming close to the ground on Earth and illium. Also she is a stealth fregatte after all and you know what would be stupid? To not include Landing gear so the ship can touch down on a planet, power down and use the Atmospheric and topographic interferences to mask her position. Especially if she is obviously able to enter many Athmospheres and get close to the Ground as we see many times. Again to the Technobubble of Masseffect. It is one reason why i still love the Games and its lore. Mass-Effect does this really really good by introducing one fantasy element the E-Zero and explaining many many sci-fi Elements with it like FTL travel, artificial gravity, weapons technology like mass accelerator cannons hell even their telekinetic science fantasy power Biotic abilities can be explained by this one Element they made up and its abilities. In opposite to StarTrek where they make up a new techno bubble for every techy problem they come across in Mass-Effect nearly everything can be explained by real world physics with the addition of the one single made up element zero.
Hmmm does anybody else see that a bunch of stuff from mass effect looks and is aquatic? Like the reapers look like squids and cuttlefish, the geth ships look like shrimp, the asari ships from above look like manta rays, the omega from mass effect 2 looks like a jellyfish and the leviathans are also aquatic; just a thought.
Leviathans are essentially sapient sea monsters. The reapers are made in the image of the leviathans. Omega station wasn't purposefully designed to resemble a jelly fish. When space on the station became tight, construction began outward The devs actually based the geth ships on wasps
Thanks for another great video, Spacedock! I know this video clearly covers ships from the original ME trilogy, but I was wondering if (or rather when, knowing your content) you're planning to do a video on the Andromeda Initiative's TEMPEST Pathfinder Scout Ship? I figure you are probably are waiting for further details or playing through the game at the moment (as I am, and loving it), but I would love to see a video on it eventually! Also, good point about "hero size" ships. It's a point I hadn't quite ever considered.
Playing thru MEA right now and loving it, video on the Tempest is not currently scheduled but once I've finished the game and done some research i'll throw one on the roster for the future.
I really like both Mass Effect Andromeda and the Tempest in it. Overall layout is quite nice, but see-through walkways with no railings? I'd bet somebody would break some bones. But the spot where the Pathfinder stands to access the map? Great place! Also the external lines are almost better than those of the Normandy...
I really love your channel! Regarding requests, basicly an and all B5 ships. Especially the Vorlon ships. Thanks for all the hard work you put into making these videos. Its obvious you have a ton of knowledge and its spread basicly across all SciFi! Keep up the great work
Looooooove the idea of a Mass Effect fighter game it would be so much fun. I always thought the game missed huge potential with not allowing you to pilot any ships, shuttles or fighters.
I feel like the turian cruisers deserved a spot on this list too, alongside the Destiny Ascension, Normandy and Alliance cruisers, they're probably one of the most recognizable ships in Mass Effect, and considering the turians have the largest fleet in Citadel space, there's no shortage of them.
The biggest problem I see is that ME fighters and point defense are all based around auto-targetting lasers. They could ignore that for a game, but I feel like take away from the feel of Mass Effect.
Echoed my thoughts compeletely with the description of the ideal 'Hero ship' size. It's not just how they make the pilot shine, though, it's how they become symbiotic with the pilot. They also need a good name. Btw I expected a Rocinante video sooner hahah.
Yeah i'd say the smallest ship in this ideal range is kinda YT-1300 Light Freighter Sized, with Star Trek's Defiant Class coming in at the top end, the Normandy falls nicely in-between these. And yeah there will be a MCRN Corvette video before the end of Season 2's run.
I imagine doing a top 5 based on the Mass Effect universe would be difficult, we don't actually get to see many ships from the various races which is a shame despite hearing about them. WILL SpaceDock be looking into MEA ships sometime soon?
As a Mass Effect fan. Personally this franchise needs more ships for all the other species. When I would play ME I would often imagine me with a ship of my own and I would have me as it's captain and a Turian as my second-in-command and Krogan as my bodyguard/third-in-command.
Which class of destroyer? If it's the Halberd, same class as Iroquis and Heart of Midlothian, that is a pretty cool vessel. If it's the other classes, both look rather derpy. Derpiest ship in halo is the Covenant Destroyer. That thing is literally a flying space dick.
1) Thank you for keeping Andromeda separate. 2) The problem with dog-fighting in the Mass Effect universe is that their point defence weapons are ridiculously effective to the point they have to swarm them with fighters and hope some of them don't die. They could always adjust the game balance, as it's paradoxical to the other cannons because the Earth Alliance became a powerhouse by using carriers to loophole the treaty that limits Dreadnoughts. The Treaty of Farixen.
No love for the Turian Frigates? It actually *is* the AK47 of Starships in Mass Effect, because it seems like just about every one of the non-council worlds fielded at least one of these things
You actually do see the Destiny Ascension for a short moment in ME3. If saved in ME1 it shows up at the Battle of Earth and is shown when jumping through the mass relay instead of the Regular Asari Cruiser.
Wernher von Kerman you only see her for a quick second jumping in joining Sword fleet hitting Earth. It's too bad you don't even get to see her actually fight, it always stuck to me when Ashley comments about the size of the Destiny Ascension's guns from ME1 but never see them in action on screen.
I would LOVE a Mass Eefect dogfighting game. However, with your idea, you lost me at Cortez... only guy from my entire crew that I wanted to toss out of the airlock. But I still want to see Mass Effect do what they originally wanted to do... a prequel taking place during the First Contact War.
What gets to me about sci fi ships what’s the glowing squares. On the Normandy we know for a fact it’s does not have a bunch of portholes but it’s covered in glowing squares. This is a strange thing about all of sci fi covering the rough parts of a hull with glowing squares of no particular description. It’s kind of like the first person shooters with the stealth suits that are covered in glowing green lights
I think a dreadnought should've been on the list. -5 capital ships like the Destiny ascension -20 dreadnoughts -40 cruisers -30 carriers -60 wolf pack flotillas of frigates (20 frigates each flotilla) -60 support ships of supplies for fleet and living space for troops etc. -2000 fighters -1000 interceptors -600 dropships -1mil troops An unstoppable force I think, I think enough to over throw the council and it's allies
It's a pretty ship, certainly. But I felt bad about my personal quarters being four times the size of the crew dormitory, which was horribly inadequate for the number of people aboard. No wonder the krogan slept in the galley...
Nice work. I would like to see some more Warhammer 40k ships at some point. And maybe some Imperial Titans for your Planetside series... Anyway, keep up the good work!
I would say the maximus class carrier looks really gorgeous Wish we saw ships like it in the game but who know maybe the next game will have cerberus return
okay new subscriber earned. I absolutely love Mass Effect it's probably my favorite Space Opera video game collection 2 come out in the last 10 years if not longer. I agree with you on many of the used pics especially the Normandy sr2. However I do want to point out one little thing with the Normandy that I must bring to attention. Now again I love this ship. But I have to say that the vessel has one at least in my mind major design flaw. In order to get to any of the various decks from the personal cabin of Commander Shepard all the way down to the cargo bay you have to use a single elevator. This is actually a very bad idea. Because if people need to escape there's only one way to do it. aside from that it's an absolutely brilliant ship. I love it's very Sleek almost Aquatic Design it's just big enough on the interior to make it feel homey and not claustrophobic I also like how unlike the version from Mass Effect 2 or the original Normandy it's much brighter on the interior. The original Normandy was very dark and that was part of the reason why I felt it was very claustrophobic. the Normandy pre refit was brighter than the original Normandy but unfortunately it suffered from a rather bizarre layout.
My biggest problem with Sr2 Normandy interior is the bridge? Why are there so many consoles/seats along the edges of the bridge and around the holo-table? I remember counting that there was enough chairs and consoles along the outer edge for every member of the crew in ME2 to have a seat on the bridge. That aspect of the design seemed completely insane for a frigate of the normandy's style.
Hey, can you make a video explaining how shields work in various sci-fi series. It makes sense in Star Wars and Star Trek where they usually just shoot lasers or energy based weapons at each other, but in series like Halo where their ships have nukes and missiles, it starts to get confusing.
great picks, it always bothered me that you never hear or see much on how the larger ships work (destiny ascension) or look like inside (alliance cruiser). I love these designs and wish they did literally anything more with them. the wiki is basically a copy paste of the codex which is unfortunate.
I personally dont have either Normandy in my top 5. not because i dont like them, but because they blow anything else in the ME universe out of the water in these lists.
The Alliance Dreadnought was Everest Class before the Fleet-Refit and Kilimanjaro Class afterward. It's the cruisers that we don't have a canon name for. :)
Great video as always. Personally, I favor the SR1 over the SR2. It was more functional in its smaller size (it is a stealth craft after all). The more cramped interior highlighted the inconvenience of space travel and I loved the external shape and the articulating thrusters. But still, good list.
Aren't Guardian laser supposed to be 100% accurate and deadly to fighters with fighters only being viable with mass wave tactics to overheat said lasers to the point where they burnout or become less accurate?
the new cruiser class is only named once and thats dueing the lead up to the final battle if you play a war hero shep it is mentioned at some point that your mother is serving on the new class under hacket its the new york class
Raphel Stonesypher Krogan don't have ships of their own design, their only world doesn't have the industrial strength to support that. Probably decimated by the Council races during the Krogan uprising to ensure they can't expand into an empire.
Apologies for the bit where I stop the video dead to deliver a pitch for a video game lol. One of these days i'll pull a list like this off without going on a long tangent about something xD.
May i recomend that you do more Homeworld 2 ships like Vaygr Frigates Battlecruiser or any production ship or and awesome video as always.
May i say keep the tangents, kind of make it part of your thing, dont force a tangent but dont stop yourself, it shows your personality and helps these vids not feel too dry en emotionless as some lit vids can be, just an idea
Spacedock Please do one of these for halo.
But what about the Turian cruisers? Those things are beautiful.
Don't worry I think we are all use to it by now :) Its just part of your style
Hmm, 4 out of 5 ships are of human design, the top being specifically a Cerberus design... Spacedock, you're not a Cerberus sympathizer, are you?
They're on to me! xD
In all seriousness though, I really think the human designs are just perfectly done in ME, really interesting visual style overall. Cerberus stuff looks cool too, I like the way they basically just have angrier looking versions of Alliance Cruisers and Fighters.
YOU HUMANS ARE ALL RACIST
i personally quite like the Turian Cruisers they really convey a bird of prey style feel with their wings
Ben Kelder it's not a Cerberus design it's alliance they steel the plans I remember them telling you in ME 2
they also modify the alliance designs when they steal those plans
I missed the turian frigates, they look just great
which fighter? there are many and idk any design that looks like turian ships
Its actually the turian cruiser. It's only 200 meters shorter than the Alliance cruiser.
I like Geth ships. They look like Covenant ships from halo mixed with CIS ships from Star Wars.
And a tiny little bit of cooked shrimp
When designing the geth ships, Bioware took inspiration from how wasps look when hovering
Seems odd that Geth wouldn't design a utilitarian shape -- cube, cylinder, etc. Maybe the wasp-ship was someone else's design, and the Geth just ran with it because it was easier than designing new?
@@stevenscott2136 Bioware din't design geth ships as cubes probably to not make them too similar to the Borg.
Wonder if there is enough lore for you to do an episode about how Humans in the mass effect universe stunned the turians with the introduction of space based fighter carriers
The real stunner was why those carriers packed so much of a punch: humans introduced the disruptor torpedo as well. No other race was crazy enough to take the rarest, most precious substance in the galaxy and deliberately hurl it towards their enemies!
@Bogey the Bear Uh the humans didn't introduce the disruptor torpedo. I don't understand where this claim came from honestly.
The Codex makes no mention of humanity being the creators of disruptor torpedoes.
Except the other races already have carriers in that their cruisers carry fighters as well.
Human carriers were just made to get around the ratio restrictions on dreadnoughts in the Treaty of Firaxen.
@@warellis Except that what the humans invented was a ship where the main weapon is fighters. Cruisers can transport fighters but thy're not their main weapon.
Ugh, same. I was really impressed by the System Alliance ships- the cruisers and Dreadnoughts specifically. It really is a shame they didn't flush them out more; we only really ever see the outside except for one or two cutscenes on bridges.
I quite liked the Turian Cruisers, which obviously share a lot of the design aesthetics with the Normandy as the Turians had a hand in building both.
The SR-1 was essentially an experiment in mailing the blueprints for a turian frigate to a human shipyard and see what they'd come up with.
It really is a great thing how you can see both the human and turian design elements in the Normandy, yet it works so seamlessly as a ship unto itself.
I like Geth and Quarian ships. Normandy is badass, Alliance cruisers look good and sleek. I will never understand why we never got to see Salarian ships. Or any dreadnoughts besides the geth one.
Yeah, there are many races whose ships we never got to see: Salarian, Hanar, Batarian, Volus, etc. Thankfully the fine folks at Koobismo's Workshop made their own very convincing 3D models based off the visual styles associated with those species. You can see those in Marauder Shields Episodes 37 and 40 on Deviant Art.
The Tempest is pretty nice as well. Maybe a bit too "style over function" on the inside, but the outside lines are great and the place where you stand as a Pathfinder commanding the ship...
Has to be one of the coolest spots ever in science fiction.
"The Kodiak Drop Shuttle is an absolute brick"
*Adeptus Astartes heavy breathing*
...Am I the only one who actually likes the exterior appearance of the SR1 more than that of the SR2? I just really love how the “wings” can move and shift around.
Me too dude the sr1 is just so badass
Sr 1 can dock on land
The Systems Alliance Everest Class Dreadnought is an awesome vessel though, I'd pay much money for a replica of that thing.
I think u actually mean the Kilimanjaro-class. The Everest-class is the smaller one and is never actually seen on screen
Normandy was my top 1 spaceship of all time but it's been replaced by the tempest from andromeda. The interior is amazing
I would love a game where you're the captain of a cruiser, tasked to patrol and secure the Skyllian Verge.
I love mass effect and I love spaceships. I totally agree that there needs to be information and art dedicated to their history and design!
Would love to see your take on Mass Effect Andromeda, especially a focus on its technology, both Andromeda Initiative and Aliens.
Another possible list where the Normandy would end up on top:
Top 5 ship designs so cool they totally forgot about physics.
Turian warship?
The officer explaining Newton’s first law calls it an Everest class dreadnaught
The Everest-class Dreadnought was a 888m warship that has been mentioned but never seen in the series. This is not that ship
Normandy sr 1 we will never forget
Truly love the the Normandy SR2...It look like something that can dogfight, AND slug it out with capital ships in a highly maneuver intensive running battle...And big enough to operate by itself for quite sometime...And would be a treat for the eyes to see an entire wolf packs made up of these ships hunting and killing capital ships and screen fighters and other frigates...
Hell, you could consider them Destroyers and it would fit well.
All of these had Dark Horse models released, except the Ascension sadly :(
That finial thought about us watching carriers lumbering around. Well done
The Desteny Ascention always looked to me like it could be streight out of Gene Roddenberrys Andromeda. It has the same majestic huge look and almost organic hull lines ^^
The Kodyak Dropshuttle is a great design as well. It is compact, has a clear role and takes perfect advantage of the Mass-Effect premise of Element zero and reflects this perfectly in its design. For me the best ship in all of mass effect exactly because of that. Most other ships like the Normandy for example look like they could exist exactly as it does even with out the mass-effect-fields. But the Kodyak shuttle really shows how a hard sci-fi techno bubble with an clearly defined fantasy element and otherwise trying to stick to actual science can affect design choices and make the premise even more believable.
The Normandy SR2 is indeed a beauty. Only downsides are the Window like things on the hull which were not really explained and are clearly no windows because we don't have them on the interior. Otherwise i as well love her but i prefer the Cerberus interior with the Conference room in the middle, the full Hangar for vehicles and cargo and the Science lab rounds out her mission profile. A few minor changes i would still use so my small Interior refit would include: The Armory i would change into a smaller Armory room with security access and weapons lockers and the rest of the room i would put a second security room with a table for interrogations and maybe one or two small prison cells. The Captains Quarter i devide in two rooms with the current desk area and bath being the XO's Quarters and the rest from the stairs on the Captains quarters. It is still big enough to hold a big bed, a smaller Bath and a desk to work on. Same for the Xo'S althrough a bit more cramped. The current XO's Quarters i would either use as mission specific Area or include a small corridor and make one VIP or two bigger guest Quarters from it. The current Life support i would hide behind some panels and include a larger quarter for one person (like the chief engineer because of the window to oversee the engine core) in the back of it where Zane is found. The Crew Quarters stay as they are but the Beds hidden behind some walls so four crewmembers share one small area hidden behind a door so there is more privacy in comparison to now. The starboard observation lounge i would rip of all those seating and instead include a small gym area as well as a VR Globe area for the freetime. It would use the holographic tech to create a virtual reality which fools the user as good as possible for masseffect technology level. It would be for one person at a time to relax or train in. The port side stays the same as it is in ME3. The lab i would divide in one Bio/ chemical lab area and one tech lab area. finally two ladders to the right and left of the central lift which go through the whole ship instead of those ladders and jeffrey'S tubes she now has and she is perfect. She is not too big but can pack a decently sized crew. She has all things one would need on a ship like Medbay, a few shuttles, Weapons and shields and unlike her predecessor even a bit space for the crew. And still she is small enough to land on many planets and if the planet has to high gravity she has her shuttles. I am really sad we never got to see her landing gear. And yea i know we don't know if she has Landing gear but i believe she has. The Position as well as design of her Hangarbay with the door out to the front would otherwise make little sense if it wasn't designed to actually lower a ramp to drive out of the front with a ground vehicle. Also it is stated that she is build to carry out the same tasks as the SR1 could and that she can't land on all planets which means on some she can and we see her coming close to the ground on Earth and illium. Also she is a stealth fregatte after all and you know what would be stupid? To not include Landing gear so the ship can touch down on a planet, power down and use the Atmospheric and topographic interferences to mask her position. Especially if she is obviously able to enter many Athmospheres and get close to the Ground as we see many times.
Again to the Technobubble of Masseffect. It is one reason why i still love the Games and its lore.
Mass-Effect does this really really good by introducing one fantasy element the E-Zero and explaining many many sci-fi Elements with it like FTL travel, artificial gravity, weapons technology like mass accelerator cannons hell even their telekinetic science fantasy power Biotic abilities can be explained by this one Element they made up and its abilities. In opposite to StarTrek where they make up a new techno bubble for every techy problem they come across in Mass-Effect nearly everything can be explained by real world physics with the addition of the one single made up element zero.
What an amazing game series, I wish that it had some sequels
Hmmm does anybody else see that a bunch of stuff from mass effect looks and is aquatic? Like the reapers look like squids and cuttlefish, the geth ships look like shrimp, the asari ships from above look like manta rays, the omega from mass effect 2 looks like a jellyfish and the leviathans are also aquatic; just a thought.
Leviathans are essentially sapient sea monsters.
The reapers are made in the image of the leviathans.
Omega station wasn't purposefully designed to resemble a jelly fish. When space on the station became tight, construction began outward
The devs actually based the geth ships on wasps
Thanks for another great video, Spacedock! I know this video clearly covers ships from the original ME trilogy, but I was wondering if (or rather when, knowing your content) you're planning to do a video on the Andromeda Initiative's TEMPEST Pathfinder Scout Ship?
I figure you are probably are waiting for further details or playing through the game at the moment (as I am, and loving it), but I would love to see a video on it eventually!
Also, good point about "hero size" ships. It's a point I hadn't quite ever considered.
Playing thru MEA right now and loving it, video on the Tempest is not currently scheduled but once I've finished the game and done some research i'll throw one on the roster for the future.
I really like both Mass Effect Andromeda and the Tempest in it. Overall layout is quite nice, but see-through walkways with no railings? I'd bet somebody would break some bones.
But the spot where the Pathfinder stands to access the map? Great place!
Also the external lines are almost better than those of the Normandy...
Loved the idea of FSOpen Hawking campaign
I really love your channel! Regarding requests, basicly an and all B5 ships. Especially the Vorlon ships. Thanks for all the hard work you put into making these videos. Its obvious you have a ton of knowledge and its spread basicly across all SciFi!
Keep up the great work
I'm still waiting for a proper Homeworld Dog-fighting Game.
it would be cool if they did something like World of Warships (not exactly like it but same concept) but with Mass Effect ships
The SX3 reminds me of the Thunderfighter from Buck Rogers.
Mass Effect sure does have alot of cool looking spaceships !
Looooooove the idea of a Mass Effect fighter game it would be so much fun.
I always thought the game missed huge potential with not allowing you to pilot any ships, shuttles or fighters.
You could fly through the arms of the Citadel, around the massive fleets of the Migrant Fleet, the ruins of Earth dying ME3 all kinda stuff.
Your voice is so fitting to this topic! I swear you should be hired to do a sci-fi game's codex entries!
I feel like the turian cruisers deserved a spot on this list too, alongside the Destiny Ascension, Normandy and Alliance cruisers, they're probably one of the most recognizable ships in Mass Effect, and considering the turians have the largest fleet in Citadel space, there's no shortage of them.
i want a halo and mass effect games that are like empire at wars it would be great
There is a Halo mod for Empire at War.
Agreed the Me3 Sr2 is in my top 3 its in spot 2 after the Defiant of course. Your idea for the game gave me goosebumps . Bioware MAKE IT HAPPEN
The biggest problem I see is that ME fighters and point defense are all based around auto-targetting lasers. They could ignore that for a game, but I feel like take away from the feel of Mass Effect.
Echoed my thoughts compeletely with the description of the ideal 'Hero ship' size. It's not just how they make the pilot shine, though, it's how they become symbiotic with the pilot. They also need a good name. Btw I expected a Rocinante video sooner hahah.
Yeah i'd say the smallest ship in this ideal range is kinda YT-1300 Light Freighter Sized, with Star Trek's Defiant Class coming in at the top end, the Normandy falls nicely in-between these. And yeah there will be a MCRN Corvette video before the end of Season 2's run.
I love your mass effect stuff. This is beautiful.
I imagine doing a top 5 based on the Mass Effect universe would be difficult, we don't actually get to see many ships from the various races which is a shame despite hearing about them.
WILL SpaceDock be looking into MEA ships sometime soon?
As a Mass Effect fan. Personally this franchise needs more ships for all the other species.
When I would play ME I would often imagine me with a ship of my own and I would have me as it's captain and a Turian as my second-in-command and Krogan as my bodyguard/third-in-command.
Great video as always.
Top 5 halo starships
Seriously. been asking for a vid of the CCS battlecruiser for months. I mean it's appeared in every Halo game to date and yet never gets any love.
Am I the only one that literally loves the design of the unsc destroyers. They look so badass
Which class of destroyer? If it's the Halberd, same class as Iroquis and Heart of Midlothian, that is a pretty cool vessel. If it's the other classes, both look rather derpy. Derpiest ship in halo is the Covenant Destroyer. That thing is literally a flying space dick.
Sergeant Johnson gonna have to say that I prefer phenoix class colony ship or marathon class cruisers but destroyers are pretty sick
good list - i would put in an honourable mention of the Shadow Brokers ship
The Normandy reminds me of the sleek design of a Starbridge from EV Nova.
man i would totally Play a Mass Effect Dog-fighting game! your ideas would really flesh out the universe a bit more!
Space dock there’s a quality mod for empire at war where you can use mass effect ships to fight the reapers and Cerberus
You know the name of the design style for Mass Effect?
I like the Alliance Dreadnoughts. They are cool
1) Thank you for keeping Andromeda separate.
2) The problem with dog-fighting in the Mass Effect universe is that their point defence weapons are ridiculously effective to the point they have to swarm them with fighters and hope some of them don't die. They could always adjust the game balance, as it's paradoxical to the other cannons because the Earth Alliance became a powerhouse by using carriers to loophole the treaty that limits Dreadnoughts. The Treaty of Farixen.
You can see a tiny bit of the inside of an alliance cruiser in ME2 Omega DLC and i think in ME3 you see Admiral Hacket on his Battleship.
just need to say that the tempest is really a contender for the 1st place if andromeda where to be included.
No love for the Turian Frigates? It actually *is* the AK47 of Starships in Mass Effect, because it seems like just about every one of the non-council worlds fielded at least one of these things
An ace combat style space fighter game for mass effect? Beautiful.
You actually do see the Destiny Ascension for a short moment in ME3. If saved in ME1 it shows up at the Battle of Earth and is shown when jumping through the mass relay instead of the Regular Asari Cruiser.
Wernher von Kerman
you only see her for a quick second jumping in joining Sword fleet hitting Earth. It's too bad you don't even get to see her actually fight, it always stuck to me when Ashley comments about the size of the Destiny Ascension's guns from ME1 but never see them in action on screen.
I would LOVE a Mass Eefect dogfighting game. However, with your idea, you lost me at Cortez... only guy from my entire crew that I wanted to toss out of the airlock. But I still want to see Mass Effect do what they originally wanted to do... a prequel taking place during the First Contact War.
The alliance cruiser you mentioned is a York class
What gets to me about sci fi ships what’s the glowing squares. On the Normandy we know for a fact it’s does not have a bunch of portholes but it’s covered in glowing squares. This is a strange thing about all of sci fi covering the rough parts of a hull with glowing squares of no particular description. It’s kind of like the first person shooters with the stealth suits that are covered in glowing green lights
I think a dreadnought should've been on the list.
-5 capital ships like the Destiny ascension
-20 dreadnoughts
-40 cruisers
-30 carriers
-60 wolf pack flotillas of frigates (20 frigates each flotilla)
-60 support ships of supplies for fleet and living space for troops etc.
-2000 fighters
-1000 interceptors
-600 dropships
-1mil troops
An unstoppable force I think, I think enough to over throw the council and it's allies
The alliance fighters looked like little Normandy's
Normandy SR1 was inspired by Concorde, apparently.
You should do top 5 videos based on each class of ship. frigates, freighters, carriers and so on :)
What are your thoughts on the Tempest so far? I love that you can literally go everywhere on your the ship.
It's a pretty ship, certainly. But I felt bad about my personal quarters being four times the size of the crew dormitory, which was horribly inadequate for the number of people aboard. No wonder the krogan slept in the galley...
Nice work. I would like to see some more Warhammer 40k ships at some point. And maybe some Imperial Titans for your Planetside series... Anyway, keep up the good work!
if i may , being that you are going into ground content ,would it be to much to ask for infantry weapons be covered as well as the ground vehicles ?
I would say the maximus class carrier looks really gorgeous Wish we saw ships like it in the game but who know maybe the next game will have cerberus return
okay new subscriber earned. I absolutely love Mass Effect it's probably my favorite Space Opera video game collection 2 come out in the last 10 years if not longer. I agree with you on many of the used pics especially the Normandy sr2. However I do want to point out one little thing with the Normandy that I must bring to attention. Now again I love this ship. But I have to say that the vessel has one at least in my mind major design flaw. In order to get to any of the various decks from the personal cabin of Commander Shepard all the way down to the cargo bay you have to use a single elevator. This is actually a very bad idea. Because if people need to escape there's only one way to do it. aside from that it's an absolutely brilliant ship. I love it's very Sleek almost Aquatic Design it's just big enough on the interior to make it feel homey and not claustrophobic I also like how unlike the version from Mass Effect 2 or the original Normandy it's much brighter on the interior. The original Normandy was very dark and that was part of the reason why I felt it was very claustrophobic. the Normandy pre refit was brighter than the original Normandy but unfortunately it suffered from a rather bizarre layout.
For the ship under #2 we actually get to see the deck of a similar looking cerberus ship in the ME3 Omega DLC at the start.
I would love to se a Mass Effect art book.
Somtaaw Command Ship would be neat to see.
My biggest problem with Sr2 Normandy interior is the bridge? Why are there so many consoles/seats along the edges of the bridge and around the holo-table? I remember counting that there was enough chairs and consoles along the outer edge for every member of the crew in ME2 to have a seat on the bridge. That aspect of the design seemed completely insane for a frigate of the normandy's style.
Perhaps a Halo Covenant Battle Cruiser or a Covenant Super Carrier?
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What are your thoughts about the tempest from Andromeda? I didn't like the game that much, but I did like the way they designed it
Hey, can you make a video explaining how shields work in various sci-fi series. It makes sense in Star Wars and Star Trek where they usually just shoot lasers or energy based weapons at each other, but in series like Halo where their ships have nukes and missiles, it starts to get confusing.
great picks, it always bothered me that you never hear or see much on how the larger ships work (destiny ascension) or look like inside (alliance cruiser). I love these designs and wish they did literally anything more with them. the wiki is basically a copy paste of the codex which is unfortunate.
I personally love all the different Reaper variants and the Turian main battle cruisers (I don't remember their actual name and classification).
Spacedock couldyou please do a video about the Thranta class crusier from the Old Republic?
OMG i want a mass effect space based game(mmo or strategy or dogfighting idc) any kind!
I wonder how cool a space battle would be between 5 of The Asari Republics Destiny ascension go up against the CIS Lucrehulk class Battleships!!!!
I personally dont have either Normandy in my top 5. not because i dont like them, but because they blow anything else in the ME universe out of the water in these lists.
I think I remember reading somewhere that the Alliance dreadnought was either called the Everest Class or the Kilimanjaro Class...
The Alliance Dreadnought was Everest Class before the Fleet-Refit and Kilimanjaro Class afterward. It's the cruisers that we don't have a canon name for. :)
Well at least I remembered the names correctly xD
Actually the Everest-class is the older ship. The Kilimanjaro-class is the newer one
I would love to see an in-depth look at the wraith give ships in SG Atlantis.
Great video as always. Personally, I favor the SR1 over the SR2. It was more functional in its smaller size (it is a stealth craft after all). The more cramped interior highlighted the inconvenience of space travel and I loved the external shape and the articulating thrusters. But still, good list.
But the SR2 had toilets, a must for any spaceship.
Can u do the Bellator class star dreadnought? Such a cool ship.
I prefer the first Normandy but I see your point
My favourite shuttle ever is from moon base alpha the Eagle
If we could get a vid for the CCS battlecruiser from Halo, that'd be awesome. Been in every game, face of the covenant armada....never gets any love.
Aren't Guardian laser supposed to be 100% accurate and deadly to fighters with fighters only being viable with mass wave tactics to overheat said lasers to the point where they burnout or become less accurate?
Can you please cover the Andromeda Ascendant?
In the Omega DLC we get to see the inside of a Cerberus Cruiser and I doubt they are that different from the Alliance versions.
Tempest from Andromeda is the most beautiful ship in mass effect saga. Sadly you don't include it.
the new cruiser class is only named once and thats dueing the lead up to the final battle if you play a war hero shep it is mentioned at some point that your mother is serving on the new class under hacket its the new york class
I would love to see a video on the sdf1 from robotech
I think the Arqetans class would also be an Ideal hero ship.
I like the review but what about the Turian warships, can we get a ep on that and do Krogans have warships?
Raphel Stonesypher
Krogan don't have ships of their own design, their only world doesn't have the industrial strength to support that. Probably decimated by the Council races during the Krogan uprising to ensure they can't expand into an empire.
Can we get a Star Craft Battle Cruiser?
Which class?
Great review but disappointed that the SR-1 is not in the list :(
Do you have a discord or public chat room SD?
Any chance of tackling Stargate's Ha'tak Mothership OR the Goa'uld fleet as a whole?