I use different amp settings for four guitars. I pan one track left, one right, one 75% left and on 75% right. After that I use compressor to compress all channels and then I use high pass filter to get rid off muddy bass sound. I'm not a guitarist or audio engineer but it works.
I have a question about sends. How come you sent the good track to the dirt track? I thought you could just put the reverb and sansamp on the good track without needing to send it? Hopefully this makes sense just trying to learn 🙌 also great video! Very helpful. I had some trouble reading the words on your pro tools bc of the small letters in your video. Just to let you know ❤
dissecting a track to find parts that have been repeated sounds like such a HUGE pain in the butt. Points to you for going to the effort but really it shouldn't be much work for a guitar player to lay down a few takes. In songs I write parts don't always repeat the same number of times so you'd have ten times the amount of work.
The SickNeeds Cleary at the beginning of the video he shows you that he has multiple takes. He’s demonstrating the right way to double when you DONT have multiple takes.
I don’t think this is the “right” way by any stretch. I think the “right” way, if there is a right way would be have the track played twice, later then add some different effects on one or the other. Also, when you did what you did the whole guitar sound changed from a warm rhythm sound to an almost cutting lead sound. If I was paying someone to mix my tracks I would not appreciate my whole guitar sound changing. And your whole live band left stage right stage thing does not really apply unless you are in a small venue that actually uses the performers amp to carry the sound. Whenever I have played larger venues all of the instruments are routed through the PA and is mixed into an even stereo sound out front. It’s not like all of the speakers on stage right are just blaring the bass guitar, or whoever is on that side. It would sound like garbage to whoever is not sitting directly in the middle of the venue with the same distance between left and right speakers. I don’t know man maybe in a pinch when you can’t have 2 separate takes. This is much better than the copy and Pate method subtracting the insane tone change.
JAlexL00 Clearly at the beginning of the video he shows you that there are multiple tracks of guitars. This video is a demonstration on the correct way to double if you DONT have multiple tracks.
This seems like a chore honstly. For all you bedroom guitarist out there like myself don't do this just double your own track. You'll have more fun and it's less fussing around with crossfades Etc
By the time all the effects are added it sounds pretty different from the original. You could also offset the dupe track by about 50 ms to avoid the exact copy result.
Duplicating and then Reversing polarity on the same track would cause phase cancellation. Panning it wouldn't make a difference if you've subtracted the signal.
would it still create phase issues if you reamped and changed the sound of the copied part? Wouldn't the frequencies be different? Isn't the real issue using the same sound ie amp and settings for the copied track?
I use different amp settings for four guitars. I pan one track left, one right, one 75% left and on 75% right. After that I use compressor to compress all channels and then I use high pass filter to get rid off muddy bass sound. I'm not a guitarist or audio engineer but it works.
Do you use one compressor for your guitar bus, or do you use a compressor for each guitar?
@@pmshrevecomm in my mind... The tracks gets sent to a parallel compressor that then gets sent to the guitar bus...
I have a question about sends. How come you sent the good track to the dirt track? I thought you could just put the reverb and sansamp on the good track without needing to send it? Hopefully this makes sense just trying to learn 🙌 also great video! Very helpful. I had some trouble reading the words on your pro tools bc of the small letters in your video. Just to let you know ❤
Good idea for sure, esp if there wasn't another take available.
thanks, does this only apply to sections of the guitar track? Or the whole guitar track can be doubled?
Is the bass out of tune on purpose?
dissecting a track to find parts that have been repeated sounds like such a HUGE pain in the butt. Points to you for going to the effort but really it shouldn't be much work for a guitar player to lay down a few takes. In songs I write parts don't always repeat the same number of times so you'd have ten times the amount of work.
The SickNeeds Cleary at the beginning of the video he shows you that he has multiple takes. He’s demonstrating the right way to double when you DONT have multiple takes.
I don’t think this is the “right” way by any stretch. I think the “right” way, if there is a right way would be have the track played twice, later then add some different effects on one or the other. Also, when you did what you did the whole guitar sound changed from a warm rhythm sound to an almost cutting lead sound. If I was paying someone to mix my tracks I would not appreciate my whole guitar sound changing. And your whole live band left stage right stage thing does not really apply unless you are in a small venue that actually uses the performers amp to carry the sound. Whenever I have played larger venues all of the instruments are routed through the PA and is mixed into an even stereo sound out front. It’s not like all of the speakers on stage right are just blaring the bass guitar, or whoever is on that side. It would sound like garbage to whoever is not sitting directly in the middle of the venue with the same distance between left and right speakers. I don’t know man maybe in a pinch when you can’t have 2 separate takes. This is much better than the copy and Pate method subtracting the insane tone change.
JAlexL00 Clearly at the beginning of the video he shows you that there are multiple tracks of guitars. This video is a demonstration on the correct way to double if you DONT have multiple tracks.
This seems like a chore honstly.
For all you bedroom guitarist out there like myself don't do this just double your own track. You'll have more fun and it's less fussing around with crossfades Etc
I just duplicate as well, but adding a track delay of 5-10ms to the second one really helps pull it to the sides
@@knaugh5278 not duplicate, double... double track the guitar part, as in record it twice... never just duplicate
@@23Guitardood yes of course doubling is better. But duplicating sounds passable if you put a correct amount of track delay.
Yeah what’s with the copy and paste thing , Just ask the artist or if same to record what is missing.
By the time all the effects are added it sounds pretty different from the original. You could also offset the dupe track by about 50 ms to avoid the exact copy result.
He mentioned that but said it would cause some phase issues eg cancellation of frequencies
There is a right way?!
... or use the double tracking. But as you said - when you have one layer of guitar. It's the best to reverse polarity and hard pan.
Duplicating and then Reversing polarity on the same track would cause phase cancellation. Panning it wouldn't make a difference if you've subtracted the signal.
but in my case it sounds good. Then I don't get it.
Does it though?
would it still create phase issues if you reamped and changed the sound of the copied part? Wouldn't the frequencies be different? Isn't the real issue using the same sound ie amp and settings for the copied track?
@@ManchesterMusic waves adt work?
Doubling a audio source causes a 3db increase, not 6.
nope it`s 6db. You can calculate it. 20*log (2/1) = ca. 6db
@@tru33st0ry maths ftw.. 👍
that should depend on the panning law if you're placing them hard L/R
Nah