God bless your family. God loves those who have pure hearts. You are people with pure hearts. You will see God. Truth cannot be found in legalistic systems. You have done everything right. You are people of integrity and fantastic role models for your children.
Leah & Cody...Brinley is amazing. She is very thoughtful and considerate & well spoken. You have all navigated through your family's journey with such grace and I admire you and your family. Brinley will definitely help so many people going through their personal journey. Thank you to your whole family for being there for me and so many others.
The Young's are amazing! Definitely one of my favorite Mormon Story Episode! Brinley is such a smart and kind girl! Leah and Cody did such a great job raising her!!!
I am blown away by this young woman. I am nearly 44 and have only just started discovering about the lessons she is talking about. This comes from having emotionally mature parents! So inspirational. You are going to be a force of good Brinley and do great things in this world! ❤
I loved this interview. Made me tear up and loved the way she writes and expresses her thoughts and comments. Hard to believe she is just leaving high school. Come back please or start your own channel.
Hey John, I'd like to thank you from every bit of my soul. I'm currently struggling myself as a teen in the church with TBM parents. I don't think I'll ever let them know about me leaving the church as I know the backlash I'll receive. Watching your podcasts have made my life so much more bearable in this church, cheers! xoxo
What a beautiful soul - such a high amount of emotional intelligence... And understanding that there are - and always will be chapters in life, chapters in thinking, and that we'll always be kind of a mixing pot of everything we've experienced and continually choose to do. We are constantly evolving creatures, while being also creatures that cherish familiarity and comfortability. Her being able to really make peace with anything that may bubble to the surface as time goes on is so healthy. She can look at it and decide... "do I still want that to be a part of my current recipe?" or, "is it time to accept that I think differently about this particular subject, and just acknowledge and perhaps even be grateful that something was such a key ingredient in my recipe... But I no longer hold"? Like her choosing to hold on to and integrate her favorite hymns - intentionally having them in her life, but choosing to not feel shame if she can see shoulder caps in the mirror before she goes out with friends. And knowing that she has the freedom to change any of that, at any point in time. I've enjoyed seeing that everyone has different styles of coping with things that bubble to the surface, and even creating with it and dancing with it when it happens. Like Carah's is through humor. This young girl's is through writing, and poetry, and music. And that they're finding and growing their own support networks and sense of community again. So wonderful to see 🙌🙌💚. Especially as a teenager if most of your friends at school were in your previous school of thought. That can be very tough to navigate. John's wife is also very gentle and has a nurturing, validating quality. It seems that her intent really is just too listen to the guest, rather than to vocalize thoughts that the listeners should be thinking about/ pointing out how things should be interpreted. I understand that the podcast communicates with purpose and truly has a mission... But, sometimes it's just nice to see the guest so well listened to without so much commentary from the interviewer. There's definitely a time and place for John's thorough commentary, and absolutely a time and place for Carah's wit... But this was definitely a guest that matched well with John's wife's gentle, intent-to-listen nature... and it was very appreciated that she was present for this one =).
As a college student who was never a part of the church but who lived in an area where there was a high population of members so some aspects and stigmas of the church rubbed off on me, this interview was so good! I hope to adopt a lot of these healthy mental health habits that Brinley had built for herself. I aspire to be more like her, and I applaud her courage to question and reevaluate beliefs that were no longer serving her from overcoming sexual stigmas by seeking trusted resources to unearthing unprocessed trauma and using it to become better. I wish this podcast and the Young family the best!
She is so intelligent and you can tell she has learned worlds through this experience. I’m so happy for her and her parents must be so proud to hear all of this.
I must tell you that I am not a Mormon and never have been one. This young lady is awesome. She is so eloquent and thoughtful. I have had to forgive someone and what she said is so true. When I told him I forgive you, I felt so much better and a release. I am a practicing Lutheran and learn many things from listening to your podcasts. Thank you John.
What an impressive human you are, Brinley. The world needs more of you, and, it sounds like, your family members too. Never stop spreading your message. No pressure, but I think it'll take someone like you to improve the state of our mental health system; and I hope you keep coming back to keep us updated!
Brinley is amazing! I’m a 53 year old English, never Mo. Mum navigating parenthood of my youngest pair, who are now teenagers, and I learned so much from your interview. Your explanation of active listening..amazing! I feel like my 15 year old doesn’t listen to me…but I now recognise I don’t actively listen to him…I just spew out my demands, without any interest in what he has to say or acknowledgment of how he is feeling. I’m going to listen to this interview, more than once, for sure. Brinley…you are already impacting and changing lives! Thank you for being you! 😘
Key point: Brinley stated that she maintains that sacred place in her heart and soul that she treasures the hymns she so loves. Especially she is able to give thanks for the period of time that she was Mormon. So healthy and mindful, wise beyond her years!!! A very beautiful young lady, through and through! 💕💕💕
This young lady is going to change the world in her own wonderful way. I agree and relate 100 percent. We need more people like you, Brinley. Just a fantastic interview, thank you John and Margi!!
My son left when he was 17, I’m sad to say I wasn’t a great help at the time. I’m hoping this interview will give me guidance for if (hopefully when) my other two children leave
Such great info. I'm listening to this to better help my teen niece who is leaving the church. And my goodness you (Brinley) are so well spoken and in tune with yourself. Good on you and kudos to your parents through the transition. Thank you for your story and experiences!
I was just getting ready to use the word "poise"--and right below, "poise". This is an honest, well reasoned appraisal from a person who has chosen to embrace reality. She is destined to touch many lives in a positive way.
Such a kind thoughtful girl , so mature and caring . I really appreciate Margie’s input , I agree with her 100% around divorce .Divorce was one of the most positive things that happened in my life , I never looked back .
This was amazing! I’m floored and have ALL the feels. I cried with you Brinley and totally understand how you feel about the church & your journey. You have a piece of my heart now. ❤️
Awesome....another great interview with a very well rounded person who has now seen both sides of the fence. I can not imagine the pain involved when you lose very close friends because they are still trapped in the indoctrination of the Mormon organisation. Brinley will be a great asset in the years to come to the post-Mormon community. Well done Brinley.....onwards and upwards!
I want to be as articulate and wise as Brinley when I grow up. Wow!! Very cool to see such a good example of learning, growth, and wisdom from someone so young!!
I left the church at 18, and it was so hard. I remember having my last ever interview with the bishop about me leaving the church, and he mentioned how hard it must be “questioning the church” while still living with my very active parents. I went through that journey alone for the most part, and although I felt that a lot, I also felt strong because I was doing what I knew was right for me. It’s beautiful to hear about a whole family who did that. individually and as a household, they deconstructed everything they thought they knew and began again, and that takes so much strength. I applaud this woman so much. I applaud the parents so much. 💗
thank you so much for this!! i am a UU minister and mormon stories helps me continue to unpack and heal the spiritual harm i experienced being raised evangelical christian. my partner was raised UU and i soooo relate to the intimacy trauma/terror that came up in my body while building a consensual, respectful, and caring relationship with him. there is so much harm in externalizing one’s power, sense of worth, sovereignty…woooh. it’s part of why i studied theology so intensely and ended up becoming a minister. thank you again. these interviews are so validating and helpful.
What an amazing young woman. I look forward to learning more about her journey and learning from her wisdom. I agree that God is within all of us. Such wonderful insights form a beautiful young person. Brinley will go far in this life and teach us all if we are smart enough to listen and learn. Thank you for including us all on your journey
Wow. This young lady is amazing. She has the grace and wisdom of someone much older. She has a bright future ahead & I'm so happy at how her whole family has supported each other through such emotionally rough times. ( Edit- typo!)
I really enjoyed this episode...this young lady is so sweet and has a beautiful heart...I wish her all the best...sad what the Church does to ones soul...❤🙏
It is lovely that Brinley can still look back at mormonism with fondness. Those who have dedicated decades of their lives, and their finances, will often have a much harder time seeing any good in it once they find out they have been terribly deceived. Sometimes it can be more helpful to consign the now painful memories, and associated regrets to the dust bin. Thanks John for great young guest…I really enjoyed her insights…👌🏽
I've watched or listened to countless hours of this podcast and just finished the entire saga of this family. Every story I hear reveals more layers to what people must go through during a transition like this. Even though, as a life long atheist, it is sometimes hard for me to relate, this story has really made a big impact on me. There are two things that strike me in this video. First is her point about the gift of the unknown. The church has all the answers which seems great, but it robs people of the wonder that comes from the unknown. Exploring and wondering about how things are created and work is one of humanity's most important traits and what has led to so much of what society and technology is today. To me it is so great to see someone gain that, but also so sad to realize that so many involved in this church and probably others are missing that in their lives. The second thing is simply to hear the story of someone younger like Brinley going through this, and thinking about just how much of an impact it will have on the trajectory her entire life. Certainly her parent's lives have changed significantly too, but they already have a life they are leading, chosen careers etc. As a young woman in the church Brinley would be getting ready to go off on a mission, come back, get married, start a family and most likely fulfill her role as a mother and homemaker. Instead she has already experienced so much that she never would have, has a career path she never would have had, a relationship she never would have had, her college experience will be completely different, she'll have great friends she never would have had, not to mention all the wisdom and resiliency she gained from going through the crisis itself at such a young age. Her entire life will completely different because of it. I've heard John say many times "The greatest gift of a faith crisis is the rest of your life", and I think that rings more true here than for anyone else he's ever interviewed.
Iam very impressed with Brinley and her story. She is smart, beautiful young lady who is mature beyond her age. Thank you for sharing your story and you have taught us how to deal with this painful and heartbreaking process in such a graceful way. Thank you! It was great having Margi on with her patient and kind support and hope she can join John more often. Another amazing podcast !
I want to bear my testimony that this episode is true 😂 Loooooooved this!!!! Thank you so much Brinley for being vulnerable and sharing to help others!
It’s super nice to see this! It’d be great to do a panel with some teenagers. I could think of dozens of teens who would make for very great interviews
It reminds me of the movie “The Village” that’s exactly what they’ve done, instilled fear on the members ON PURPOSE holding them hostage of their mind, body and spirit placing them In spiritual prison!
I am not nor have ever been a Mormon. These interviews are so thorough and so beautifully respectful. I would like these videos help all humanity to just love and be kind. Period. Men create these religions to control people for power and money. When will be a society of humankind instead of mankind?
This is an amazing interview of all that she has learned and gone through from the beginning. She has turned out to be an amazing young woman who has a wonderful future ahead!
WOW, I'm so touched I can't find the words to express... the words I try to type to do so are inadequate compared to hers that have such depth & connection... thank you 💜
The greatest gifts out of this situation is that the family grew in their own personal gifts and talents. Women have gifts that the church is not acknowledging and it took stepping away from the church to see them come to fruition.
So grateful for this interview she has helped me find the words to some of my emotions and that I couldn’t express the idea of being complex rather than binary thinking and idea of god within his beautiful and trusting your own thoughts Your own inner knowing 💗
This is what I think about God now. God is my own voice, God dwells in me, I myself give me permission love; to forgive; to heal; to create, to persist, etc.
Wonderful catching up with your story. You’re growing into a lovely woman. Your comments on loving the night sky makes me wonder if astrology could be a fun and rewarding thing for you to study. I stumbled on it during my faith crisis. I didn’t find Mormon stories until 2020. I have left the church in 2016 after my family fell apart in the church was not only no help, but a big part of the family. I followed every guideline and couldn’t understand why things didn’t work out. Astrology is very therapeutic and can help tremendously in any kind of life coaching, etc.
Apparently Mormon culture has figured out how to have inter-generational conversations using common language. Something that I have not experienced. My experiences living around many many cultures is that the different generations have their own slang, and to get us to speak frankly for more than 20 minutes about touchy subjects comfortably without going into left field is rare. Mormons seem to have a common language for all ages. Obviously I do not have the capability of critiquing this. Long story short: Ex-Mormons are contributing priceless skills in the ongoing battle against Theocracy. Damn!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I am 37 years old with probably about 85-90% of my family still active and i left the church when I was about 18 or 19 I felt her words so much. Especially her letter (thinking about writing my own letter just to get out my feelings). i still love so many hymns and love my Heavenly Father and so many of the family values I learned in the church. In ways I’m so lucky to have parents and family (who are active) who still love me no matter what but I wish I had this post cast to help me through it. I wasn’t excommunicated I left silently but there are times I feel judged by the members of the ward and looked down on by some of them. (Not all). I’m so glad my brother (who’s in the same boat as I) sent me a TikTok of yours. I’ve been listening to videos all day. ❤️🙏🏼
It’s funny how there are certain first names that just come off as “Mormon Names” Brinley would definitely be one of those names, haha (No disrespect whatsoever)
If you value yourself, your family, friends, and life you will not go out pillage and plunder. You still have morals because you are not a sociopath or psychopath.
Brinley's story is truly heartbreaking but also full of hope and promise for her bright future ahead. First of all, I agree that Gaia is an amazing app and I especially like watching Dr. Joe Dispenza and his meditations. This is such an awesome interview, she seems really thoughtful and articulate. I wish I could've expressed myself in this way when my wife and I left the church instead of just having so much anger. I was taught the missionary lessons when I converted in 1996, I was told that Joseph Smith translated the BOM from golden plates in front of him on the table sometimes with the help of Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris as scribes. It was only years later in 2008 that I found out the truth of the translation process and that Joseph used a seer stone in a hat and he would put his face in the hat and read the words that appeared on the magical stone. Ironically, with all the evidence now in 2021 pointing to the false history of the LDS church made public by things such as the CES Letter, and authors like Richard Bushman, Sandra Tanner, Grant Palmer to name a few; the LDS church has been forced to come clean about their history and founder by "conveniently" coming out with things like the Joseph Smith Papers Project where they “all of a sudden found all these journals that they didn’t know they had before” just so they can say that the translation process wasn’t fully understood until now. Okay so you mean to tell me that the so called anti-Mormon community as labeled by the LDS church was right all along? If these authors and researchers were right about the translation process how many other facts like the differing accounts of the first vision and the Freemasonic origins of the temple endowment are true? NONE OF IT. PERIOD. Sadly, Mormonism is built upon a false testimony and a lie and countless people like myself went through emotional hell when we found out the truth that Joseph Smith was a con artist and perpetuated the biggest hoax upon the world when he wrote the BOM. He couldn't even get the translation of the Book of Abraham or the Kinderhook Plates right. There has been so many changes to everything in the church doctrinally speaking that it's becoming a joke, and spare me the continuing revelation nonsense. In the Bible we read that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. His mind doesn't change. Continuing revelation doesn't work like that. Joseph Smith has led millions of people away from Biblical Christianity because of his ego, he may have had good intentions to begin with but the fame, money and fortune seeking got to his head and he always had to one up everyone including the Cambellites who were also part of the restoration movement during the Second Great Awakening. Yep that's right, Joseph Smith wasn't the first person to want to restore Apostolic Biblical Christianity, there were countless other groups that were doing the same thing, he just took it one step further with help of ingesting hallucigenic mushrooms and the datura plant. That's why the Kirtland era in church history produced the most visions because him and Sidney Rigdon were trying to gain converts by convincing them that the church was true so they spiked the sacramental wine before their meetings in church and the temple. Of course now this history is easy to find online and the church is now just coming face to face with the reality of it all. It really is sad. The real gospel isn't about the LDS church, it's the good news that Jesus was born of a virgin, died on the cross to overcome sin and death for us and rose on the third day so that we might have life again. Those that believe the true and Biblical gospel will find salvation in the life to come. The biggest sin the LDS church is guilty of is telling members that there is nothing good outside of Mormonism, that God doesn't exist outside of the church. No wonder why so many Mormons give up their belief in God and lose faith in a creator when leaving the church. They don't realize that the real God of the Bible is calling them to a personal saving relationship with Him. My eyes were opened when I started comparing the Bible to the BOM, the D&C, King Follet Discourse, Journal of Discourses, History of the Church and I saw the inconsistencies within the different teachings about God. To Mormons who have left or are considering leaving the LDS church do me this one favor: Don't give up on God. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Read the Bible and God will reveal Himself to you in ways you never could imagine. He loves you and cares about you. Keep an open mind. God is all around us, within us, and within you. We never gave up on God and He never left us, instead He brought us into a personal relationship with Him. That is something mormons can't comprehend until they start trusting in Him and not a church.
The documentary that Brinley was speaking about at in the end of the interview is Gloriavale, that is located in New Zeeland. It is a fascinating view on how religion can be used to control the masses and the faithful. You can also find former members on Ted talks
Excommunication does nothing to remove us away from God. While I understand the loss of community, God will never forsake or leave us. Sending love and light to each of you.
Non-Mormon here. But is shocking to me that there is no conversations in families about sex especially in the world we live in today. I have had to unlearn not talking about it with my youngest and I love the openness it has given my relationship with her.
OMG! Your wife! So beautiful. Nice to see her. ♥️ Since you've talked so much about her. I have issues with the word " forgiveness" . To forgive is to wipe the slate clean . It is to remove any accountability from the wrong doer. For me, I cannot forgive those who have scared my soul. But what I can do, is accept that I cannot change what they did. It happened for what ever reasons. Then do what I need to do to process the pain / hurt/ then let go of it. & Move on to better my life. As far as the anger, depending on the circumstances, that will always be there, attached to the memory of the experience & injustice. It's a reminder , a protection, and a learning experience in life that next time when faced with similar things, that red flag goes up. Do I project my anger toward others that had nothing to do with the past ? No. That anger stays on that shelf, attached to the person or persons who created it. It's definitely a hard pill to swallow especially as child, to realize how unjust this word is.. you get fed this fairy tale story of our existence, and God and love.. and it feels good, we live our lives with honesty and whole heart, we are taught to be vulnerable & open to everyone in our church especially the leaders, since we are taught they have an authority appointed by God . And then , when something happens, and we need their guidance, we believe with all our hearts that they will act with love and morality because isn't God all that is moral & love? Then we are hit , blind sided. A shock to our system, a contradiction to everything we know in our heart and the teachings we grew up with leaving us questioning everything we knew even our own core self. The contradiction is that we were unaware that this Religion is nothing but a manipulation to get us to believe in something so greatly that we devote our lives , our service, and our $$$$$ to a business... Or businesses. All these organized Religions especially the fundamental christian cults born out of Zionism are nothing more but tools for the elites to get wealthier on the backs of unsuspecting honest , loving , people. I'm so sorry for this young girls experience. Yet I am proud for her that she is so much more aware than I was at her age. Most of my adult life was nothing but just trying to survive with the mental & emotional damage that was caused because I grew up in a cult. What took me 30 years to learn has only taken her a fraction of that time.. These young ones are the ones to stop this cycle of control & abuse that has been handed down through the generations. Much love & best wishes to her on her journey of life.
When she is talking about still missing the church, I would compare it to believing in Santa as a child. That belief made Christmas magical and special. After you know Santa isn’t real, it takes some of the magic away from Christmas. You can long for those innocent days, but you can’t go back to believing in Santa once you know.
At about 1:03:00 when the topic of the “external voice” (the church, speaking for God) vs your “internal voice”. What sort of record does the “external voice” (the church) have? Have they been perfect? Your “internal voice” can’t do any worse.
1:13:00. I don’t think we can necessarily say the majority of people know what is moral. We all learn what is moral and it takes a lot of research, experience, and skills to make sure we know what is best for us and many times we don’t. We can be blinded, manipulated, and twisted to believe many things are moral, but they aren’t. Like believing sinners go to hell, faith is a virtue, and being willfully ignorant are things people believe are moral or okay, but are not.
1:15:00. When she talks about sex I totally agree with that. It is something we do as a species to bond with other humans. We can use it to see if we are compatible with someone else. Many people might be blinded by their lust and not see that they don’t actually love the person they are saying they want to be with.
Sheesh. It sounds like there was a lot of trauma around sex for her and that’s really sad to hear. I’m glad she was able to reconcile her emotions and be more comfortable and her dad is such a champ for being open and vulnerable.
1:33:00 when john is talking about the church and how it can be helpful I don’t think so. I think the church is ONLY damaging. Everything that is good in the church is secular and everything unique is wrong. The community and people and helpful stuff are all because we are humans and share the same emotions. The unique things hold people back.
1:41:00 when Brinley talks about Gaia you need to be EXTREMELY careful with it. Gaia is full, chalk FULL of pseudo-scientific garbage that will skew your view of reality. You might start believing all sorts of woo woo and nonsense if you aren’t extremely careful in how and what you watch in their app. There is so much conspiratorial and pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo in there it’s extremely hard to separate the scientific with the religious garbage. Please be careful!
Wow! What a mature and thoughtful young woman. I feel so much better knowing she can take care of herself instead of having to depend on men. Thank god for no god. Humans make so much crap up. We are enough! Take credit for your actions and success! And build good relationships. Love this family… best of luck in college ❤️🍻
I kind of contributed what she was saying at 2:18ish to when/if a plane is going down… you need to help yourself by putting your own mask on before you can help others put theirs on.
This was a great interview and I'm so impressed by Brinley's maturity. Thank you! However, I don't always recognize the "Christian" who is discussed in some podcasts. For instance,. I am a Christian and neither I nor my church looks down on people who have divorced. Sometimes divorce is the best option, even if it is painful. I wish the loud, very conservative Christians who are more concerned with rules than they are with people or God's love would calm down.
I love her interpretation of “God/Holy Spirit”, 59:39 I recall in my own faith crisis I wanted to know who the Holy Ghost was what was speaking to me, it’s not a man..it is me..and god is my own voice. Thank you Brinley😊
Most denominations allow people to meander in and out of the church as their faith journey flows. It is like the times Jesus went out to the desert for 40 days or turned over the money takers' tables in the temple or the path into the garden of Gethsemane. There are appropriate times for self reflection, meditating and questioning one's place in this world. The church needs to honor that and support the people on all points in this journey instead of kicking them out.
Just a minor feminist note--and it is rather minor--I'd love to visually see Margie sitting fully at the table and not looking like she's sitting -behind- John. On another note, I love, love, love that recently there's been an additional host bringing a female perspective to the table. Not that John doesn't do a great job, but the inclusion of another perspective has been awesome.
The realization that you've been believing in a False Gospel means there is a True Gospel somewhere. I was a Mormon and now a Christian, but I really knew nothing about the True Gospel or Biblical Theology, only a few quotes out of context to back Mormon theology. The difference is like between Life and DEATH
Respectfully, I'm sure you can recognize that the root of conservatism is to 'conserve' what already exists. When someone feels decieved at this level, and or seeks change, you're focus is not "how much of all of my former perspectives can I cling to and stay trapped in"? You're coming from a transformative, "Progressive" mindset after something like that. Are you asking him to interview people before they find themselves in a transformative - things need to change, mindset? Or people who, in addition to their personal transition, openly list politically conservative values? Have the constitution as the background in their Facebook page? Do you desire that they do a pre-interview interview, checking off that someone doesn't believe in same sex marriage, abortion, or legalizing Marijuana? Or conservative as in, they still believe in God and the Bible? If so, there are a lot of those on here :)
@@sasmills I sense a level of snark in your response. Look not everyone who has issues with the church's truth claims are "progressive". Respectfully, I'm looking for more guests who aren't simply leaving the church because it conflicts with their "progressive" values. Of course, I have heard many guests who's social values don't align with the church's who also have issues with church history. It'd be great to see other guests that I could relate to who have a similar outlook as myself. I have many liberal progressive friends, and I don't mind hearing the other perspectives, but nearly every person I've listened to on this podcast has espoused support for some progressive political position. Some of us who are socially conservative want to know there are others who have issues with the church's truth claims. We also want community as well. Having a problem with an organized religion and being a conservative aren't mutually exclusive -- as you hint at in your post.
This young lady is giving us a sermon, better and more powerful then I have ever heard from a general conference.
This girl is wise beyond her years. Awesome. She has a great future ahead of her.
I was impressed with the poise this young lady has. Very well spoken.
I'm inspired by my daughter!! I think this episode is going to help a lot of people, hopefully a lot of teens.
God bless your family.
God loves those who have pure hearts.
You are people with pure hearts.
You will see God.
Truth cannot be found in legalistic systems.
You have done everything right.
You are people of integrity and fantastic role models for your children.
Leah & Cody...Brinley is amazing. She is very thoughtful and considerate & well spoken. You have all navigated through your family's journey with such grace and I admire you and your family. Brinley will definitely help so many people going through their personal journey. Thank you to your whole family for being there for me and so many others.
What does a girl do if she accidentally gets pregnant ?
She's an intelligent and discerning girl who will do very well in life. Wish you all the best.
Her strength, wisdom, and compassion have me in tears. Now and in the future, she will have a part in healing many hearts.
Forever grateful I lost my faith as a teen and before I based my major life decisions on the church !
The Young's are amazing! Definitely one of my favorite Mormon Story Episode! Brinley is such a smart and kind girl! Leah and Cody did such a great job raising her!!!
I am blown away by this young woman. I am nearly 44 and have only just started discovering about the lessons she is talking about. This comes from having emotionally mature parents! So inspirational. You are going to be a force of good Brinley and do great things in this world! ❤
I left at 17 just a few months ago. It has been both difficult and liberating. Looking forward to hear about your journey!
Agreed
-a very wise cat
I loved this interview. Made me tear up and loved the way she writes and expresses her thoughts and comments. Hard to believe she is just leaving high school. Come back please or start your own channel.
The individuals that gave this video a thumbs down obviously did not listen to it. Wheat a great interview! Thanks for sharing!
Hey John, I'd like to thank you from every bit of my soul. I'm currently struggling myself as a teen in the church with TBM parents. I don't think I'll ever let them know about me leaving the church as I know the backlash I'll receive. Watching your podcasts have made my life so much more bearable in this church, cheers! xoxo
Great girl. Very self aware and honest. Wish her all the best.
What a beautiful soul - such a high amount of emotional intelligence... And understanding that there are - and always will be chapters in life, chapters in thinking, and that we'll always be kind of a mixing pot of everything we've experienced and continually choose to do.
We are constantly evolving creatures, while being also creatures that cherish familiarity and comfortability.
Her being able to really make peace with anything that may bubble to the surface as time goes on is so healthy. She can look at it and decide... "do I still want that to be a part of my current recipe?" or, "is it time to accept that I think differently about this particular subject, and just acknowledge and perhaps even be grateful that something was such a key ingredient in my recipe... But I no longer hold"?
Like her choosing to hold on to and integrate her favorite hymns - intentionally having them in her life, but choosing to not feel shame if she can see shoulder caps in the mirror before she goes out with friends.
And knowing that she has the freedom to change any of that, at any point in time.
I've enjoyed seeing that everyone has different styles of coping with things that bubble to the surface, and even creating with it and dancing with it when it happens.
Like Carah's is through humor. This young girl's is through writing, and poetry, and music.
And that they're finding and growing their own support networks and sense of community again. So wonderful to see 🙌🙌💚. Especially as a teenager if most of your friends at school were in your previous school of thought. That can be very tough to navigate.
John's wife is also very gentle and has a nurturing, validating quality. It seems that her intent really is just too listen to the guest, rather than to vocalize thoughts that the listeners should be thinking about/ pointing out how things should be interpreted.
I understand that the podcast communicates with purpose and truly has a mission... But, sometimes it's just nice to see the guest so well listened to without so much commentary from the interviewer.
There's definitely a time and place for John's thorough commentary, and absolutely a time and place for Carah's wit... But this was definitely a guest that matched well with John's wife's gentle, intent-to-listen nature... and it was very appreciated that she was present for this one =).
Powerful example of forgiveness and healing that we can all learn from. Thank you Brinley.
As a college student who was never a part of the church but who lived in an area where there was a high population of members so some aspects and stigmas of the church rubbed off on me, this interview was so good! I hope to adopt a lot of these healthy mental health habits that Brinley had built for herself. I aspire to be more like her, and I applaud her courage to question and reevaluate beliefs that were no longer serving her from overcoming sexual stigmas by seeking trusted resources to unearthing unprocessed trauma and using it to become better. I wish this podcast and the Young family the best!
She is so intelligent and you can tell she has learned worlds through this experience. I’m so happy for her and her parents must be so proud to hear all of this.
I must tell you that I am not a Mormon and never have been one. This young lady is awesome. She is so eloquent and thoughtful. I have had to forgive someone and what she said is so true. When I told him I forgive you, I felt so much better and a release. I am a practicing Lutheran and learn many things from listening to your podcasts. Thank you John.
I hope Brinley has a chance to watch this in 20 years. I think she will be proud of this 17 year old.
What an impressive human you are, Brinley. The world needs more of you, and, it sounds like, your family members too. Never stop spreading your message. No pressure, but I think it'll take someone like you to improve the state of our mental health system; and I hope you keep coming back to keep us updated!
Brinley is amazing! I’m a 53 year old English, never Mo. Mum navigating parenthood of my youngest pair, who are now teenagers, and I learned so much from your interview. Your explanation of active listening..amazing! I feel like my 15 year old doesn’t listen to me…but I now recognise I don’t actively listen to him…I just spew out my demands, without any interest in what he has to say or acknowledgment of how he is feeling. I’m going to listen to this interview, more than once, for sure. Brinley…you are already impacting and changing lives! Thank you for being you! 😘
How she thinks about God is EXACTLY what I have been searching for. Thank you Brinley for helping me understand that! So profound!!!!
Key point: Brinley stated that she maintains that sacred place in her heart and soul that she treasures the hymns she so loves. Especially she is able to give thanks for the period of time that she was Mormon. So healthy and mindful, wise beyond her years!!! A very beautiful young lady, through and through! 💕💕💕
This young lady is going to change the world in her own wonderful way. I agree and relate 100 percent. We need more people like you, Brinley. Just a fantastic interview, thank you John and Margi!!
My son left when he was 17, I’m sad to say I wasn’t a great help at the time. I’m hoping this interview will give me guidance for if (hopefully when) my other two children leave
Are you and your son the only nonembers? Just curious! God bless
When she read her letter to her stake president, I had chills. What a beautiful girl who is so wise.
Such great info. I'm listening to this to better help my teen niece who is leaving the church. And my goodness you (Brinley) are so well spoken and in tune with yourself. Good on you and kudos to your parents through the transition. Thank you for your story and experiences!
I have never seen Margie before, she’s beautiful!
She really is.
I was just getting ready to use the word "poise"--and right below, "poise". This is an honest, well reasoned appraisal from a person who has chosen to embrace reality. She is destined to touch many lives in a positive way.
Such a kind thoughtful girl , so mature and caring . I really appreciate Margie’s input , I agree with her 100% around divorce .Divorce was one of the most positive things that happened in my life , I never looked back .
What an amazing spirit she is! I am in awe.
This was amazing! I’m floored and have ALL the feels. I cried with you Brinley and totally understand how you feel about the church & your journey. You have a piece of my heart now. ❤️
Awesome....another great interview with a very well rounded person who has now seen both sides of the fence.
I can not imagine the pain involved when you lose very close friends because they are still trapped in the indoctrination of the Mormon organisation.
Brinley will be a great asset in the years to come to the post-Mormon community. Well done Brinley.....onwards and upwards!
I want to be as articulate and wise as Brinley when I grow up. Wow!! Very cool to see such a good example of learning, growth, and wisdom from someone so young!!
I left the church at 18, and it was so hard. I remember having my last ever interview with the bishop about me leaving the church, and he mentioned how hard it must be “questioning the church” while still living with my very active parents. I went through that journey alone for the most part, and although I felt that a lot, I also felt strong because I was doing what I knew was right for me. It’s beautiful to hear about a whole family who did that. individually and as a household, they deconstructed everything they thought they knew and began again, and that takes so much strength. I applaud this woman so much. I applaud the parents so much. 💗
thank you so much for this!! i am a UU minister and mormon stories helps me continue to unpack and heal the spiritual harm i experienced being raised evangelical christian.
my partner was raised UU and i soooo relate to the intimacy trauma/terror that came up in my body while building a consensual, respectful, and caring relationship with him.
there is so much harm in externalizing one’s power, sense of worth, sovereignty…woooh. it’s part of why i studied theology so intensely and ended up becoming a minister. thank you again. these interviews are so validating and helpful.
What an amazing young woman. I look forward to learning more about her journey and learning from her wisdom. I agree that God is within all of us. Such wonderful insights form a beautiful young person. Brinley will go far in this life and teach us all if we are smart enough to listen and learn. Thank you for including us all on your journey
Wow. This young lady is amazing. She has the grace and wisdom of someone much older. She has a bright future ahead & I'm so happy at how her whole family has supported each other through such emotionally rough times.
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I really enjoyed this episode...this young lady is so sweet and has a beautiful heart...I wish her all the best...sad what the Church does to ones soul...❤🙏
What an old, beautiful soul ❤️
So glad for you! 🙏💜looking forward to it
It is lovely that Brinley can still look back at mormonism with fondness. Those who have dedicated decades of their lives, and their finances, will often have a much harder time seeing any good in it once they find out they have been terribly deceived. Sometimes it can be more helpful to consign the now painful memories, and associated regrets to the dust bin.
Thanks John for great young guest…I really enjoyed her insights…👌🏽
I've watched or listened to countless hours of this podcast and just finished the entire saga of this family. Every story I hear reveals more layers to what people must go through during a transition like this. Even though, as a life long atheist, it is sometimes hard for me to relate, this story has really made a big impact on me. There are two things that strike me in this video. First is her point about the gift of the unknown. The church has all the answers which seems great, but it robs people of the wonder that comes from the unknown. Exploring and wondering about how things are created and work is one of humanity's most important traits and what has led to so much of what society and technology is today. To me it is so great to see someone gain that, but also so sad to realize that so many involved in this church and probably others are missing that in their lives.
The second thing is simply to hear the story of someone younger like Brinley going through this, and thinking about just how much of an impact it will have on the trajectory her entire life. Certainly her parent's lives have changed significantly too, but they already have a life they are leading, chosen careers etc. As a young woman in the church Brinley would be getting ready to go off on a mission, come back, get married, start a family and most likely fulfill her role as a mother and homemaker. Instead she has already experienced so much that she never would have, has a career path she never would have had, a relationship she never would have had, her college experience will be completely different, she'll have great friends she never would have had, not to mention all the wisdom and resiliency she gained from going through the crisis itself at such a young age. Her entire life will completely different because of it. I've heard John say many times "The greatest gift of a faith crisis is the rest of your life", and I think that rings more true here than for anyone else he's ever interviewed.
1:00 “the Kingdom of God is within you” Luke 18:21 I love it!
Iam very impressed with Brinley and her story. She is smart, beautiful young lady who is mature beyond her age. Thank you for sharing your story and you have taught us how to deal with this painful and heartbreaking process in such a graceful way. Thank you! It was great having Margi on with her patient and kind support and hope she can join John more often.
Another amazing podcast !
I want to bear my testimony that this episode is true 😂
Loooooooved this!!!! Thank you so much Brinley for being vulnerable and sharing to help others!
It’s super nice to see this! It’d be great to do a panel with some teenagers. I could think of dozens of teens who would make for very great interviews
It reminds me of the movie “The Village” that’s exactly what they’ve done, instilled fear on the members ON PURPOSE holding them hostage of their mind, body and spirit placing them In spiritual prison!
I LOVE YOU ALL, Thank You for ALL YOU do. 🦁♥️
I am not nor have ever been a Mormon. These interviews are so thorough and so beautifully respectful. I would like these videos help all humanity to just love and be kind. Period. Men create these religions to control people for power and money. When will be a society of humankind instead of mankind?
Wish I had left as a teen instead of 70 yo
High five to you. Better late than never
My dad left in the 60’s when he was in his 20’s.
This is an amazing interview of all that she has learned and gone through from the beginning. She has turned out to be an amazing young woman who has a wonderful future ahead!
WOW, I'm so touched I can't find the words to express... the words I try to type to do so are inadequate compared to hers that have such depth & connection... thank you 💜
The greatest gifts out of this situation is that the family grew in their own personal gifts and talents. Women have gifts that the church is not acknowledging and it took stepping away from the church to see them come to fruition.
I love Margie being there with you. She is amazing!
So grateful for this interview she has helped me find the words to some of my emotions and that I couldn’t express the idea of being complex rather than binary thinking and idea of god within his beautiful and trusting your own thoughts Your own inner knowing 💗
This is what I think about God now. God is my own voice, God dwells in me, I myself give me permission love; to forgive; to heal; to create, to persist, etc.
John, I love seeing your beautiful wife by your side!!
John is by her side 😉 she is the star! 😆☝🏻♥️
@@sofiagarfield2774 Of course!
Wonderful catching up with your story. You’re growing into a lovely woman. Your comments on loving the night sky makes me wonder if astrology could be a fun and rewarding thing for you to study. I stumbled on it during my faith crisis. I didn’t find Mormon stories until 2020. I have left the church in 2016 after my family fell apart in the church was not only no help, but a big part of the family. I followed every guideline and couldn’t understand why things didn’t work out. Astrology is very therapeutic and can help tremendously in any kind of life coaching, etc.
I actually thought about astrology before I found out my passion for psychology! 💕 I find it fascinating as well
Great follow up interview! I 💙💜💚the young family.
Apparently Mormon culture has figured out how to have inter-generational conversations using common language.
Something that I have not experienced. My experiences living around many many cultures is that the different generations have their own slang, and to get us to speak frankly for more than 20 minutes about touchy subjects comfortably without going into left field is rare. Mormons seem to have a common language for all ages.
Obviously I do not have the capability of critiquing this.
Long story short: Ex-Mormons are contributing priceless skills in the ongoing battle against Theocracy.
Damn!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I am 37 years old with probably about 85-90% of my family still active and i left the church when I was about 18 or 19 I felt her words so much. Especially her letter (thinking about writing my own letter just to get out my feelings). i still love so many hymns and love my Heavenly Father and so many of the family values I learned in the church. In ways I’m so lucky to have parents and family (who are active) who still love me no matter what but I wish I had this post cast to help me through it. I wasn’t excommunicated I left silently but there are times I feel judged by the members of the ward and looked down on by some of them. (Not all). I’m so glad my brother (who’s in the same boat as I) sent me a TikTok of yours. I’ve been listening to videos all day. ❤️🙏🏼
Allowing yourself to feel your feelings gives permission to honor and to move on. So important to creating health.
It’s funny how there are certain first names that just come off as “Mormon Names”
Brinley would definitely be one of those names, haha (No disrespect whatsoever)
You should link Leah and Cody Young's episode in the description so we can go straight to it because we are lazy (I am lazy).
Just did, and everything else will be in the description under show notes after the premiere airs 👍🏻
She’s gonna be an amazing therapist/counselor ❤️
If you value yourself, your family, friends, and life you will not go out pillage and plunder. You still have morals because you are not a sociopath or psychopath.
Brinley's story is truly heartbreaking but also full of hope and promise for her bright future ahead. First of all, I agree that Gaia is an amazing app and I especially like watching Dr. Joe Dispenza and his meditations. This is such an awesome interview, she seems really thoughtful and articulate. I wish I could've expressed myself in this way when my wife and I left the church instead of just having so much anger.
I was taught the missionary lessons when I converted in 1996, I was told that Joseph Smith translated the BOM from golden plates in front of him on the table sometimes with the help of Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris as scribes. It was only years later in 2008 that I found out the truth of the translation process and that Joseph used a seer stone in a hat and he would put his face in the hat and read the words that appeared on the magical stone. Ironically, with all the evidence now in 2021 pointing to the false history of the LDS church made public by things such as the CES Letter, and authors like Richard Bushman, Sandra Tanner, Grant Palmer to name a few; the LDS church has been forced to come clean about their history and founder by "conveniently" coming out with things like the Joseph Smith Papers Project where they “all of a sudden found all these journals that they didn’t know they had before” just so they can say that the translation process wasn’t fully understood until now. Okay so you mean to tell me that the so called anti-Mormon community as labeled by the LDS church was right all along? If these authors and researchers were right about the translation process how many other facts like the differing accounts of the first vision and the Freemasonic origins of the temple endowment are true? NONE OF IT. PERIOD.
Sadly, Mormonism is built upon a false testimony and a lie and countless people like myself went through emotional hell when we found out the truth that Joseph Smith was a con artist and perpetuated the biggest hoax upon the world when he wrote the BOM. He couldn't even get the translation of the Book of Abraham or the Kinderhook Plates right. There has been so many changes to everything in the church doctrinally speaking that it's becoming a joke, and spare me the continuing revelation nonsense. In the Bible we read that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. His mind doesn't change. Continuing revelation doesn't work like that. Joseph Smith has led millions of people away from Biblical Christianity because of his ego, he may have had good intentions to begin with but the fame, money and fortune seeking got to his head and he always had to one up everyone including the Cambellites who were also part of the restoration movement during the Second Great Awakening. Yep that's right, Joseph Smith wasn't the first person to want to restore Apostolic Biblical Christianity, there were countless other groups that were doing the same thing, he just took it one step further with help of ingesting hallucigenic mushrooms and the datura plant. That's why the Kirtland era in church history produced the most visions because him and Sidney Rigdon were trying to gain converts by convincing them that the church was true so they spiked the sacramental wine before their meetings in church and the temple. Of course now this history is easy to find online and the church is now just coming face to face with the reality of it all. It really is sad.
The real gospel isn't about the LDS church, it's the good news that Jesus was born of a virgin, died on the cross to overcome sin and death for us and rose on the third day so that we might have life again. Those that believe the true and Biblical gospel will find salvation in the life to come. The biggest sin the LDS church is guilty of is telling members that there is nothing good outside of Mormonism, that God doesn't exist outside of the church. No wonder why so many Mormons give up their belief in God and lose faith in a creator when leaving the church. They don't realize that the real God of the Bible is calling them to a personal saving relationship with Him. My eyes were opened when I started comparing the Bible to the BOM, the D&C, King Follet Discourse, Journal of Discourses, History of the Church and I saw the inconsistencies within the different teachings about God.
To Mormons who have left or are considering leaving the LDS church do me this one favor: Don't give up on God. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Read the Bible and God will reveal Himself to you in ways you never could imagine. He loves you and cares about you. Keep an open mind. God is all around us, within us, and within you. We never gave up on God and He never left us, instead He brought us into a personal relationship with Him. That is something mormons can't comprehend until they start trusting in Him and not a church.
It's grieving process! People still struggle with it years after!!! Keep the value and beauty of the gospel and leave the ugliness and lies behind!
The documentary that Brinley was speaking about at in the end of the interview is Gloriavale, that is located in New Zeeland. It is a fascinating view on how religion can be used to control the masses and the faithful. You can also find former members on Ted talks
Those are cults, not Christian.
@@nordscan9043 don’t forget that christianity started of as a cult, it is just that it now is mainstream.
@@swedishlina No, it did not.
@@nordscan9043 it did buddy!!! Do your research!!!
@@swedishlina... No. Please don't pull fake crocodile tears. I know you like to play the victim and act self righteous.
This was a great interview. One of the best!
Excommunication does nothing to remove us away from God. While I understand the loss of community, God will never forsake or leave us. Sending love and light to each of you.
Brinley is amazing!! I'd love to see her work with the Especially for Truth (Jessie Funk) she has so many insights to offer post Mormon youth ❤️❤️❤️
Thanks you so much Brinley
Non-Mormon here. But is shocking to me that there is no conversations in families about sex especially in the world we live in today. I have had to unlearn not talking about it with my youngest and I love the openness it has given my relationship with her.
She's a great example of knowing that you love something but that you don't have space for it in your life anymore.
Petition to see Margie in more videos ❤️
OMG! Your wife! So beautiful. Nice to see her. ♥️ Since you've talked so much about her.
I have issues with the word " forgiveness" . To forgive is to wipe the slate clean . It is to remove any accountability from the wrong doer.
For me, I cannot forgive those who have scared my soul. But what I can do, is accept that I cannot change what they did. It happened for what ever reasons. Then do what I need to do to process the pain / hurt/ then let go of it. & Move on to better my life.
As far as the anger, depending on the circumstances, that will always be there, attached to the memory of the experience & injustice. It's a reminder , a protection, and a learning experience in life that next time when faced with similar things, that red flag goes up.
Do I project my anger toward others that had nothing to do with the past ? No. That anger stays on that shelf, attached to the person or persons who created it.
It's definitely a hard pill to swallow especially as child, to realize how unjust this word is.. you get fed this fairy tale story of our existence, and God and love.. and it feels good, we live our lives with honesty and whole heart, we are taught to be vulnerable & open to everyone in our church especially the leaders, since we are taught they have an authority appointed by God . And then , when something happens, and we need their guidance, we believe with all our hearts that they will act with love and morality because isn't God all that is moral & love?
Then we are hit , blind sided. A shock to our system, a contradiction to everything we know in our heart and the teachings we grew up with leaving us questioning everything we knew even our own core self.
The contradiction is that we were unaware that this Religion is nothing but a manipulation to get us to believe in something so greatly that we devote our lives , our service, and our $$$$$ to a business... Or businesses. All these organized Religions especially the fundamental christian cults born out of Zionism are nothing more but tools for the elites to get wealthier on the backs of unsuspecting honest , loving , people.
I'm so sorry for this young girls experience. Yet I am proud for her that she is so much more aware than I was at her age. Most of my adult life was nothing but just trying to survive with the mental & emotional damage that was caused because I grew up in a cult. What took me 30 years to learn has only taken her a fraction of that time..
These young ones are the ones to stop this cycle of control & abuse that has been handed down through the generations.
Much love & best wishes to her on her journey of life.
When she is talking about still missing the church, I would compare it to believing in Santa as a child. That belief made Christmas magical and special. After you know Santa isn’t real, it takes some of the magic away from Christmas. You can long for those innocent days, but you can’t go back to believing in Santa once you know.
She will be an amazing therapist.
This girl had to grow up way too fast. She is wise beyond her years. I pray she has an amazing life!
At about 1:03:00 when the topic of the “external voice” (the church, speaking for God) vs your “internal voice”.
What sort of record does the “external voice” (the church) have? Have they been perfect?
Your “internal voice” can’t do any worse.
Sounds like the Diet Coke thing was the Holy Spirit. That was cool!
Thank you!
God is within us because the light and energy used to create us is from God.
1:13:00. I don’t think we can necessarily say the majority of people know what is moral. We all learn what is moral and it takes a lot of research, experience, and skills to make sure we know what is best for us and many times we don’t. We can be blinded, manipulated, and twisted to believe many things are moral, but they aren’t. Like believing sinners go to hell, faith is a virtue, and being willfully ignorant are things people believe are moral or okay, but are not.
1:15:00. When she talks about sex I totally agree with that. It is something we do as a species to bond with other humans. We can use it to see if we are compatible with someone else. Many people might be blinded by their lust and not see that they don’t actually love the person they are saying they want to be with.
Sheesh. It sounds like there was a lot of trauma around sex for her and that’s really sad to hear. I’m glad she was able to reconcile her emotions and be more comfortable and her dad is such a champ for being open and vulnerable.
1:33:00 when john is talking about the church and how it can be helpful I don’t think so. I think the church is ONLY damaging. Everything that is good in the church is secular and everything unique is wrong. The community and people and helpful stuff are all because we are humans and share the same emotions. The unique things hold people back.
1:41:00 when Brinley talks about Gaia you need to be EXTREMELY careful with it. Gaia is full, chalk FULL of pseudo-scientific garbage that will skew your view of reality. You might start believing all sorts of woo woo and nonsense if you aren’t extremely careful in how and what you watch in their app. There is so much conspiratorial and pseudoscientific mumbo jumbo in there it’s extremely hard to separate the scientific with the religious garbage. Please be careful!
2:00:00 It really sucks hearing how traumatizing this whole experience has been. All of it unnecessary trauma. It’s so sad.
I loved this, thank you.
Wow! What a mature and thoughtful young woman. I feel so much better knowing she can take care of herself instead of having to depend on men. Thank god for no god. Humans make so much crap up. We are enough! Take credit for your actions and success! And build good relationships. Love this family… best of luck in college ❤️🍻
I kind of contributed what she was saying at 2:18ish to when/if a plane is going down… you need to help yourself by putting your own mask on before you can help others put theirs on.
Pray, pay and obey, sayeth the lord.
This was a great interview and I'm so impressed by Brinley's maturity. Thank you!
However, I don't always recognize the "Christian" who is discussed in some podcasts. For instance,. I am a Christian and neither I nor my church looks down on people who have divorced. Sometimes divorce is the best option, even if it is painful. I wish the loud, very conservative Christians who are more concerned with rules than they are with people or God's love would calm down.
I love her interpretation of “God/Holy Spirit”, 59:39 I recall in my own faith crisis I wanted to know who the Holy Ghost was what was speaking to me, it’s not a man..it is me..and god is my own voice. Thank you Brinley😊
I love Mather!!
Most denominations allow people to meander in and out of the church as their faith journey flows. It is like the times Jesus went out to the desert for 40 days or turned over the money takers' tables in the temple or the path into the garden of Gethsemane. There are appropriate times for self reflection, meditating and questioning one's place in this world. The church needs to honor that and support the people on all points in this journey instead of kicking them out.
I love marghee
I love John but I love matuteen 2x 1000
A lovely young lady. She has come soo far in her journey. Wisdom comes from God.
Just a minor feminist note--and it is rather minor--I'd love to visually see Margie sitting fully at the table and not looking like she's sitting -behind- John. On another note, I love, love, love that recently there's been an additional host bringing a female perspective to the table. Not that John doesn't do a great job, but the inclusion of another perspective has been awesome.
The realization that you've been believing in a False Gospel means there is a True Gospel somewhere. I was a Mormon and now a Christian, but I really knew nothing about the True Gospel or Biblical Theology, only a few quotes out of context to back Mormon theology. The difference is like between Life and DEATH
I'm 36. Mormonism is a cult. I want to leave.
God is real. Mormonism is not. I pray that you find a good, Bible believing church.
can you interview someone that considers themselves a political conservative? seems like everyone you interview is a political progressive.
Do you have any ideas? Haleigh Everts was a recent one!
Respectfully, I'm sure you can recognize that the root of conservatism is to 'conserve' what already exists.
When someone feels decieved at this level, and or seeks change, you're focus is not "how much of all of my former perspectives can I cling to and stay trapped in"?
You're coming from a transformative, "Progressive" mindset after something like that.
Are you asking him to interview people before they find themselves in a transformative - things need to change, mindset?
Or people who, in addition to their personal transition, openly list politically conservative values? Have the constitution as the background in their Facebook page?
Do you desire that they do a pre-interview interview, checking off that someone doesn't believe in same sex marriage, abortion, or legalizing Marijuana?
Or conservative as in, they still believe in God and the Bible?
If so, there are a lot of those on here :)
@@sasmills I sense a level of snark in your response. Look not everyone who has issues with the church's truth claims are "progressive". Respectfully, I'm looking for more guests who aren't simply leaving the church because it conflicts with their "progressive" values. Of course, I have heard many guests who's social values don't align with the church's who also have issues with church history.
It'd be great to see other guests that I could relate to who have a similar outlook as myself. I have many liberal progressive friends, and I don't mind hearing the other perspectives, but nearly every person I've listened to on this podcast has espoused support for some progressive political position. Some of us who are socially conservative want to know there are others who have issues with the church's truth claims. We also want community as well. Having a problem with an organized religion and being a conservative aren't mutually exclusive -- as you hint at in your post.