Hi, great looking bike, but has some cons. 1. Display on Trek Fuel EXE is better. 2. Battery is not removable. On Trek you can have second battery which fits in small backpack (e.g. Osprey Syncros 12L) and then you will double the range. Moreover, the battery is not heavy at all, less than 2kg. You do not feel it on your back. With 720 Wh you can do almost everything during all day mountain rides. On backpacking trips, sometimes the only way to charge your bike is to take the battery out and plug in the hotel room. The range extender of TQ system is unfortunetly very small compared to competitors like Orbea Rise. TQ motor is excelent, but not for everyone. It is designed for fit and experienced riders. It kicks in narrow range of cadence. No overrun to support you on tech climbs. It is true that using mixed mid and eco mode you can gain ca. 1000m of elevation. With my Trek I managed to gain on technical mountain trails over 900m and 40km of distance and still had some juice left (less than 10%) and my weight is 85kg. All in all I expert this Canyon to be a fun all rounder, but limited by range, even with range extender. It would be interresting to compare Spectral on fly with Neuron. TQ vs. Bosch SX.
Canyon nailed just about all the competitors market boxes to give potential buyers another choice but failed hugely by not putting better money, R&D and installing a better battery more capable capacity battery than the 360Wh in the down tube of this bike. If their market intentions were more sincere they wouldn’t be holding back as they clearly have done with this new bike and would have put a 500Wh+ battery in that weighs comparatively the same as this current 360Wh battery and still given riders the range extender option of something far exceeding the 160Wh option but again just didn’t bother to grasp the opportunity to raise the stakes and standards of current SL emtbs, an opportunity hugely missed making this bike just another in a sea of many. Whilst nit mentioned and I’ve nit read Canyons website I’m in no doubt there will be some bs regards flying with this bike at some PR spiel. The need to get away from the sales spin of “you can remove the internal battery and fly with the bike and use range extenders” (yawn!). The amount of people who would bother doing this are less than 0.7% of the market if SL emtb users. There is also the option to extend beyond the accepted “norm” and make range extenders greater than just 169Wh with no weight penalties. So it seems as usual, the industry has released another great looking bike with no appreciable gains whatsoever in the MTB SL market and sit on current technology by holding back on perhaps next years model that could come with a better battery package at zero weight gain or extra cost to the consumer. In short, great looking bike, no gains met, no integrity towards the customer just another choice is SL emtb. Last point that would aid on a positive which wasn’t mentioned Rich; can the down tube battery be removed by one bolt and therefore make charging the bike an option with battery installed in the frame or simply removed to recharge the battery in a hotel room etc? There are bikes incoming to market that blow all current emtbs in a cocked hat. It’s a case of waiting to see when they will be released so this bike doesn’t get my hard earned cash as it’s no better than anything else currently in the market. Best bet for folk after a good SL emtb? Grab a second hand bike and ride it to death, save the money and bide your time.
pay more for less power? seems i dont get lightweight emtbs..... slapping a range extender on it to make it more heavy (somewhat in the range of a full power one) just to get somewhat near the range of a full powered while loosing the option of adding a warterbottle one seems counterproductive....
I have a Trek Exe with the TQ and it's great for certain things, but the battery's are simply too small and the TQ could do with a bit more NM/Watts, with the range extender it's still a bike for maybe local laps, trying to take one around say The Peak District or the Lakes, it's a serious lesson in range management. Oh and buy a spare thumb switch from new as it will snap, still awaiting a replacement 6 weeks later....
These new range of canyon ebikes are almost hard to notice they're actually ebikes - incredible advances in making ebikes lighter and more sleek, thanks for episode Embn! 😁
Nice looking bike without doubt, but with the full power, dji equipped Amflow pl now available on the market offering a wapping 120nm of torque and a 800wh battery whilst being lightweight kind of pisses on their fireworks.
Nice lookng bike lets hope the battery issue from the full power emtb gets resolved very quickly. personaly i would wait to see how canyon resolve that problem before i would buy any canyon bike.
don't understand why the Spectral has the lower power, small battery TQ and the Neuron has the Bosch SX. I would have expected it the other way round... a higher capacity battery for the TQ seems to be available (Trek). On a TQ powered Mondraker test ride I used around 20% of battery on a quick/turbo 20km, 200hm ride...
the water bottle compatibility is actually big on this, my acoustic spectral mullet wont take any bottle besides a 400ml fidlock and its just not enough. curious if this new fidlock custom bottle would work on my model now
Spectral spectral on:fly CF9 is only a couple hundred pounds cheaper than the Amflow base model ebike with a similar spec but a less powerful motor and smaller battery
Why does this channel keep promoting a company that has dreadful customer service, very little support system in the uk. I suppose they pay you a lot of money to turn a blind eye to a poor company.
Nice looking bike, but I am missing the point why I should get this bike. For the mid range weight /capacity is like any other brand. DJI will probably be the new benchmark here if you are looking for light weight bikes. Pricewise comparable. Imagine what the weight could be with a smaller battery. Thats my point of wanting 1 bike with different battery options. The support can be adapted in the SW for the specific ride. Removable battery is my bottleneck , but thats only my personal pain point
Unfortunaly not, but in comparison to other motors, it's the quietest motor on the market, also no rattling sound when going downhill, there are some other videos out there that are giving an impression. So sound-wise it's the best decision you can make at the moment, but of course it's coming by the cost of low support in general (300 watt max)
Why do manufacturers keep releasing bikes with old tech? We've seen that TQ have a bigger battery available, so why not have it as an option? Very disappointing
@@Sam96210 No, it is just that the whole point of the bike is to be light with limited power. That is how it is different from full power bike. Having the option for extender is ok, but that not the essence of the bike. It is a work around if you need more range and trades of what makes the bike different. Whit extender it is basically just low power full weight bike.
The problem with these engines is that they do not provide enough support uphill, with a full engine I can enjoy even difficult and technical climbs!!!
Gotta say, I could esaily live with 50nm, but give me another 2kg of internal battery so i can do 1000m of ascending using any mode, just like my full fat.... And then the range extender for some SERIOUSLY big days.
Just unsubscribed now, fed up with the channel supporting Canyon bikes and not being impartial and wanting us to buy new £6-7k plus bikes. It must be for the rich elite this channel.
Too little, too late and way too expensive for this "old" motor at the lowest end of power spectrum. Everyone is waiting for the new bangers from DJI and ZF that very well may be at the sweet spot, and Canyon releases a bike with this tech, that is available on the Trek Fuel EXe at big discounts now? Well if they think that's a clever move...
dreadful company with poor CF frames and very poor customer service in the UK, why do you keep promoting this brand knowing full well they have atrocious service, you're misleading people.
What do you think of the new Canyon Spectral:ONfly? Please share your thoughts down below!
Hi, great looking bike, but has some cons. 1. Display on Trek Fuel EXE is better. 2. Battery is not removable. On Trek you can have second battery which fits in small backpack (e.g. Osprey Syncros 12L) and then you will double the range. Moreover, the battery is not heavy at all, less than 2kg. You do not feel it on your back. With 720 Wh you can do almost everything during all day mountain rides. On backpacking trips, sometimes the only way to charge your bike is to take the battery out and plug in the hotel room. The range extender of TQ system is unfortunetly very small compared to competitors like Orbea Rise. TQ motor is excelent, but not for everyone. It is designed for fit and experienced riders. It kicks in narrow range of cadence. No overrun to support you on tech climbs. It is true that using mixed mid and eco mode you can gain ca. 1000m of elevation. With my Trek I managed to gain on technical mountain trails over 900m and 40km of distance and still had some juice left (less than 10%) and my weight is 85kg. All in all I expert this Canyon to be a fun all rounder, but limited by range, even with range extender. It would be interresting to compare Spectral on fly with Neuron. TQ vs. Bosch SX.
Canyon nailed just about all the competitors market boxes to give potential buyers another choice but failed hugely by not putting better money, R&D and installing a better battery more capable capacity battery than the 360Wh in the down tube of this bike. If their market intentions were more sincere they wouldn’t be holding back as they clearly have done with this new bike and would have put a 500Wh+ battery in that weighs comparatively the same as this current 360Wh battery and still given riders the range extender option of something far exceeding the 160Wh option but again just didn’t bother to grasp the opportunity to raise the stakes and standards of current SL emtbs, an opportunity hugely missed making this bike just another in a sea of many. Whilst nit mentioned and I’ve nit read Canyons website I’m in no doubt there will be some bs regards flying with this bike at some PR spiel. The need to get away from the sales spin of “you can remove the internal battery and fly with the bike and use range extenders” (yawn!). The amount of people who would bother doing this are less than 0.7% of the market if SL emtb users. There is also the option to extend beyond the accepted “norm” and make range extenders greater than just 169Wh with no weight penalties. So it seems as usual, the industry has released another great looking bike with no appreciable gains whatsoever in the MTB SL market and sit on current technology by holding back on perhaps next years model that could come with a better battery package at zero weight gain or extra cost to the consumer. In short, great looking bike, no gains met, no integrity towards the customer just another choice is SL emtb.
Last point that would aid on a positive which wasn’t mentioned Rich; can the down tube battery be removed by one bolt and therefore make charging the bike an option with battery installed in the frame or simply removed to recharge the battery in a hotel room etc?
There are bikes incoming to market that blow all current emtbs in a cocked hat. It’s a case of waiting to see when they will be released so this bike doesn’t get my hard earned cash as it’s no better than anything else currently in the market. Best bet for folk after a good SL emtb? Grab a second hand bike and ride it to death, save the money and bide your time.
pay more for less power? seems i dont get lightweight emtbs..... slapping a range extender on it to make it more heavy (somewhat in the range of a full power one) just to get somewhat near the range of a full powered while loosing the option of adding a warterbottle one seems counterproductive....
I have a Trek Exe with the TQ and it's great for certain things, but the battery's are simply too small and the TQ could do with a bit more NM/Watts, with the range extender it's still a bike for maybe local laps, trying to take one around say The Peak District or the Lakes, it's a serious lesson in range management. Oh and buy a spare thumb switch from new as it will snap, still awaiting a replacement 6 weeks later....
These new range of canyon ebikes are almost hard to notice they're actually ebikes - incredible advances in making ebikes lighter and more sleek, thanks for episode Embn! 😁
I want it !! Now riding the spectral-on , i love the bike allready , but this one will be just better because of the TQ .
TQ Motor's are easily the best looking on an E-Bike...!😎
They're always so stealthy, the Spectral:ONfly almost looks like a normal MTB!
ZF motor would have been good also!
Nice looking bike without doubt, but with the full power, dji equipped Amflow pl now available on the market offering a wapping 120nm of torque and a 800wh battery whilst being lightweight kind of pisses on their fireworks.
Looks like the future of e bikes I think , what's the servicing like that's my big question?? Ie motor and battery if anything was to go wrong??
Why the TQ instead of the Bosch SX use in the neuron fly?
because it will become a same bike, complete duplicate product. Canyon is the only maker right now with two very similar SL emtbs models
Nice vid Rich qick simple and to the point i realise they are a partner for the channel, keeping it short is good 👍👍🤛
Thanks dude glad you liked it 👊
Really good looking bike… but that routing for the range extender is hideous! 😬
Yeh... don't know why they thought it was a good idea to put the charge port at the opposite end of the frame to where the range extender is 😮
@@andyarchitect I’m sure there’s a good technical reason for it (tight packaging around the motor I assume) but damn, it looks like an afterthought.
@@Mockle07 yeh... im sure they had their reasons... just a shame they didn't try a little harder... it looks like an extension cable 😆
@@andyarchitect It does! 😂
Nice lookng bike lets hope the battery issue from the full power emtb gets resolved very quickly. personaly i would wait to see how canyon resolve that problem before i would buy any canyon bike.
Please tell me there will also be full power version later on !!!
It already exists with an ep801 but less slack head tube and longer seat tube
Please ship to Australia.
don't understand why the Spectral has the lower power, small battery TQ and the Neuron has the Bosch SX. I would have expected it the other way round...
a higher capacity battery for the TQ seems to be available (Trek).
On a TQ powered Mondraker test ride I used around 20% of battery on a quick/turbo 20km, 200hm ride...
👍Nice😄
It's not to late, but is it late, for a SL from Canyon😊
the water bottle compatibility is actually big on this, my acoustic spectral mullet wont take any bottle besides a 400ml fidlock and its just not enough. curious if this new fidlock custom bottle would work on my model now
Sounds like a great bike. What shoes are you wearing?
Thanks mate, I’m wearing the Shimano GE900’s
I think it looks sick but i would want a bigger battery with the lightweight ebikes.
This is just: pure state of the art!
Can you compare tQ to bosch sx? in terms of silence mostly?
what the heck they placed the charge port on that position
Did you say the motor had 15 or 50nm of torque? It sounded like you said 15nm. Looks like a nice bike 👌🏻
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@@trixandre cheers mate
Spectral spectral on:fly CF9 is only a couple hundred pounds cheaper than the Amflow base model ebike with a similar spec but a less powerful motor and smaller battery
missed out on delivering it with bigger new tq battery. We have seen bike like this 2 year ago, it is called trek fuel exe
pound lighter and over 1k cheaper. also the MX config will appeal to a diff crop of riders.
Is that "drinking bottle thingy" the battery? So ... removeable?
The bottle thingy is the additional range extender, this one is removable, the main battery inside the frame is not removable
@@e_mtb I see, thank you. So ... bs for us guys storing the bike in the garage in winter and wrecking the battery by zero °C.
@@eMPHA5ERit's usually ok to store batteries in cold temperatures, but bring them indoors and let them warm up before charging them.
@@andyarchitect My wife will kill me bringing the muddy thing indoors, bro 😂🤯
Why does this channel keep promoting a company that has dreadful customer service, very little support system in the uk. I suppose they pay you a lot of money to turn a blind eye to a poor company.
Just buy a discounted trek fuel exe 9.5 for 3.5k, add few upgrades (hopefully also discounted) and it costs less than this and you get Trek support🎉
@@Rubblechops Got the same new bike for £2.5k some great discounts to be found, NEVER buy a bike at full retail.
@@Narses3 Wow, a steal.
Because this channel is just a marketing platform for anyone who is willing to pay. It’s not a real riders channel.
This external battery "add on" trend has got to go. The solution is batteries in the same form factor but with different cell counts / weights.
Gotta compare this to the fuel exe
Ship to Australia please!!!!!!
I think it would be cool if it had the DJI set up
I wish there was a 700 to 1000watt 20kg max e mountain bike but it seems that it would push the limits
Nice looking bike, but I am missing the point why I should get this bike. For the mid range weight /capacity is like any other brand. DJI will probably be the new benchmark here if you are looking for light weight bikes. Pricewise comparable. Imagine what the weight could be with a smaller battery. Thats my point of wanting 1 bike with different battery options. The support can be adapted in the SW for the specific ride.
Removable battery is my bottleneck , but thats only my personal pain point
Why is that guys head on upside down?
No motor sound in the whole preview...?
Unfortunaly not, but in comparison to other motors, it's the quietest motor on the market, also no rattling sound when going downhill, there are some other videos out there that are giving an impression. So sound-wise it's the best decision you can make at the moment, but of course it's coming by the cost of low support in general (300 watt max)
Bike looks nice, but for me is all day long a full power ebike. Love canyon spectral on cfr ltd
DJI/Amflow might have made this redundant already.
We need an SL with at least 500Wh Battery instead of carrying a range extender which is annoying.
Why do manufacturers keep releasing bikes with old tech? We've seen that TQ have a bigger battery available, so why not have it as an option? Very disappointing
So their light Enduro e-mtb is actually lighter than their light trail emtb (neuron)? Much success, very funny, wow
As a light eBike, running it with range extender in test sort of defies the point.
Why? You have the option to use the battery if you want to go for a longer ride
@@Sam96210 Because then you might as well take a full power bike. Its only 2 kg or so heavier.
@@EdSchwarz5544 so you’re saying have 2 different bikes?
@@Sam96210 No, it is just that the whole point of the bike is to be light with limited power. That is how it is different from full power bike. Having the option for extender is ok, but that not the essence of the bike. It is a work around if you need more range and trades of what makes the bike different. Whit extender it is basically just low power full weight bike.
The problem with these engines is that they do not provide enough support uphill, with a full engine I can enjoy even difficult and technical climbs!!!
DJI made these "lightweight" bikes obsolete. Canyon is a day late and a dollar short here.
that extender cable design is so bad
agree
same thinking, the cabel rattles 1000%
Gotta say, I could esaily live with 50nm, but give me another 2kg of internal battery so i can do 1000m of ascending using any mode, just like my full fat.... And then the range extender for some SERIOUSLY big days.
Thing of the past. Full fat lightweight is the way of the future.
what size was the bike and how tall are you? :)
Size Large for 6 foot Rich. Size Medium for 5'10"(ish) Neil
A real review of this bike would have been nice.
Just unsubscribed now, fed up with the channel supporting Canyon bikes and not being impartial and wanting us to buy new £6-7k plus bikes. It must be for the rich elite this channel.
Nice bike but TQ and 360wh is sad.
Tq need to increase the torque and power. Especially with the new amflow and Tarok bikes imminent
The ZF motor looks pretty much like the TQ one but has 90NM so almost 2 x
@@johnssmith4005the zf is wider though
@@johnssmith4005 also much louder
DJI is going to blow away all the competition. I'll pass on these "light" eMTBs.
Should ‘ve fitted a ZF motor and be done with it
Too long an advert though.
And I still Go with the Kenevo sl 🎉
Too little, too late and way too expensive for this "old" motor at the lowest end of power spectrum. Everyone is waiting for the new bangers from DJI and ZF that very well may be at the sweet spot, and Canyon releases a bike with this tech, that is available on the Trek Fuel EXe at big discounts now? Well if they think that's a clever move...
Nah full fat, full power all the way
Hard sell for the price...
Nice. But being 130 kg will not do the job properly
dreadful company with poor CF frames and very poor customer service in the UK, why do you keep promoting this brand knowing full well they have atrocious service, you're misleading people.
I think it looks sick but i would want a bigger battery with the lightweight ebikes.